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Well .... another raw guy with speed.
I think I would have gone with Davon House.
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it was just a copy/paste from draft countdown, not sure where Scott Wright got the #s
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He went to the Packers in the 4th.
I was thinking Brandon Burton. I'm ok with Skrine - he'll be our PR likely and a nickle guy.
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Well .... another raw guy with speed.
I think I would have gone with Davon House.
Packers took him
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I missed that.
CBS still shows him as available too. lol
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I think I would have gone with Davon House.
Someone isn't paying attention. 
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Looks like the Pats took a chance on Marcus Cannon.
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I really like this draft too! I agree we just landed 4 day 1 starters. We also are forming an identity finally. We will be a nasty Team, all these guys carry an attitude, swagger about them. Can't say any of these guys are Finesse players..A tight end that runs a 4.53 can block and catch...at 6'5 250..are you kidding me? Can't wait to see Taylor launch Pouncy like a rag doll..
As I see it right now..
QB- McCoy
RB-Hillis/Hardesty
FB-Marecic
WR1- Little
WR2-Mo Mass
WR3-Robiskie
WR4-Mitchell
Slot-Norwood
TE-Watson/Moore/Jordan
LT-Thomas
LG-Steinny
C-Mack
RG-Luavo/Yates
RT-Pashos/Womack
LE-Sheard/Mitchell?(FA)
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
RE-Benard/Roth?(FA)
SAM-Fujita
MIKE-Jackson
WILL-Gocong
CB-Haden
CB-Brown
Nickel-Wright
SS-Ward
FS-Elam?(FA)
I will say we need Free Agency to fill out a few spots on the roster..
Mathias Kiwanuka-DE
Nnamdi Asomugha-CB
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I don't have a problem with picking up a FB
You've got Vickers, best fullback in the league.
You've got nobody at wide receiver, You've still got needs at defensive end and linebacker
And corner
And SAFETY,
YOU CAN'T FIND A SAFETY THAT WOULD CHALLENGE MIKE ADAMS?
But you want to replace Vickers????
Ok, Ok you can always get a SAFETY in the FIRST next year?
so you can spend more 1st rd money on the db's in the future
not quite ( oh the humanity) but it's on the horizon
foresight, forethought, big picture, somebody look at the big picture, somebody look at this roster over a 4 year time, Oh this is frustrating.
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Was hoping for Jason Pinkston. But Shrine seems to have some upside. Lucky for us Throw Long is worrying enough for the entire fanfare. 
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Was hoping for Jason Pinkston. But Shrine seems to have some upside.
Lucky for us Throw Long is worrying enough for the entire fanfare.
Lucky for us Throw Long is young and doesn't have to worry about blood pressure, or this draft stuff could do him in.
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Read my whole post, not just what is convenient to you. Quote:
I don't have a problem with picking up a FB - as a matter of fact, I look forward to seeing he and Hillis in the same backfield. I just figured we had bigger needs and other players rated higher on the board - that was the headscratcher comment.
We picked a WR already and both MoMass and Robo should thrive in the WCO as opposed to whatever the heck Daboll called his offense.
Here's what I posted in another thread about what I wanted today:
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102: Davon House (CB), Brandon Burton (CB), DeAndre McDaniel (FS), Sam Acho (DE), Marcus Cannon (OG), Clint Boling (OG)
124: Anyone around from above, KJ Wright (OLB), Ugo Chinasa (DE), James Brewer (OT), Deunta Williams (FS),
137: Anyone around from above, Mark Herzlich (LB), Derek Newton (OT), Casey Matthews (MLB), Julius Thomas (TE)
Notice safeties, notice cornerbacks. Notice no FB. I am not trying to replace Vickers. I said I'm ok with the pick, just figured there were bigger needs and higher rated players.
I trust Heckert is looking to the future.
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Well, there you go then! 
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Rd 4: 5th pick (102) | Jordan Cameron TE USC 40 Time: 4.53 sec. | Bench Reps: 23 | Vertical Jump: 37 1/2 ft.
Rd 4: 27th pick (124) | Owen Marecic, FB Stanford 40 Time: 4.87 sec. | Bench Reps: 22 | Vertical Jump: 28 1/2 ft.
Rd 5: 6th pick (137) | Buster Skrine, CB Tennessee-Chattanooga 40 Time: 4.37 sec. | Bench Reps: 20 | Vertical Jump: 37 ft.
Rd 5:19th pick (150) | Jason Pinkston, OT Pittsburgh 40 Time: 5.39 sec. | Bench Reps: N/A | Vertical Jump: 26 1/2 ft.
Rd 7: 45th pick (248)
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We like the Pittsburgh guys .......
Can he play RT? He seems kinda short ... maybe a Guard build instead?
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Hey got Pinkston. Wanted him last round.
We traded? Just this second got my tv back. Cable guy was here...
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What were the deets of the trade? Both 6th's I assume to move up?
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yes we traded, no word on what yet. he is projected as RT by talking heads
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What were the deets of the trade? Both 6th's I assume to move up?
yes.
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I'm not able to watch, is Tyrod Taylor still available?
Here's how I track the draft
http://stats.cleveland.com/nfldraft/draft.asp?year=2011
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Looks like we gave up both of our 6th rounders.
We'll still have our compensary 7th ..... not allowed to trade those. lol
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We gave up both 6th round picks for him
We have 1 pick left at 248
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I think it was Mayock that mentioned he'd be RT in the NFL, maybe Casserly, can't recall. Regardless, it sounds as if that will be his role.
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Oh, then I meant to say I wanted Pinkston THIS round. Didn't want to give up those 2 6th rounders.
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Can he play RT? He seems kinda short ... maybe a Guard build instead?
Remember we have to draft short linemen, Colt has to be able to see over them.
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His cousin Todd Pinkston was a decent player for rthe Eagles. Hopefully Jason will be a solid guy for us.
Seems like a good pick.
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Anyone think we might have gotten Marecic as a MLB?
He played both ways at Stanford.
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Sheldon brown must be moving to safety.
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He would be a slooooooooowwwwwww MLB.
He runs like a 4.8. No chance. Jauron wants speed .... even from his MLB.
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if EITHER him or Lauvao step up this year into the starting role ... then we will be moving forward with the correct pieces to compete long term and potentially solidify the line for a few more years and a half decade.
Don't know if I like trading two 6ths for somewhat of a project tackle ... but I suppose it's not a major loss.
Added a DT, DE, WR, TE, FB/LB, CB/DB, OT, and still have one more left (it could be a quarterback, but maybe we are high on Jarret Brown?) ...
While we aren't completely done, it's nice to know that even if it is somewhat out of need and transition to a new system, that we should have as many as 4 starters, and then 2 immediate backups that could develop into starters within a year or two ...
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I really thought that we could have come out of the 4th round with a plus CB and DE .... and instead we got a TE and a FB. I'm very disappointed with that particular round. I range from happy with ( Taylor, Sharrod) to meh ... (Little, Cameron, Marecic, and Skrine) to hopeful. (Pinkston)
I can see the Little pick. He's got great size and physical ability ... so hopefully we can develop him into a star WR. Cameron .... I thought there were much better values there .. but I love that pick compared to the FB pick. That one damn near made me bang my head against the wall for real. The CB is fast ..... but not really anything else. He needs a lot of work too.
It seems like we got really caught up in potential in the later rounds (even the 2nd 2nd round pick, for that matter) .... and as someone far smarter about these things that I am once said: "Potential just means you ain't done a damn thing yet".
I hope this draft works out well. I am concerned though.
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I have a few doubts as well. BUT, several things to keep in mind. I felt this was a weak draft class and we have no idea how FA is going to work out. If we get Kiwanuka in FA.. my my..
I think we DID go for future potential. One last thing.. the 1st next year and that extra 4th is going to make a difference.
We cannot make this draft all about this year. While we keep our eye on the ball it's wise to keep the future in mind. We lost a lot of games last year and we had / have a lot of holes.
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Well I understand the concern. I suppose this year is a bit different as we will actually have free agency after the draft to fill in a "need" at either safety or dend or whatever ...
But I think a lot of this draft was designed to bring in the core players that we can use for years. I don't think any of the picks were "sexy," but we still managed to bring in 8 (7 plus the upcoming) cleveland browns... while also managing to secure 2 more picks for next year.
Do we need impact and flash? What team doesn't? But I think it's more important to put the foundation into place that we can move forward with, and I won't love or hate any of the picks until we see what they actually do in the nfl.
I'm not really worried or disappointed either because what were our needs coming into the draft?
Offense:
WR? Tried to address it.
OT? Tried to address it.
Some sort of back to spell Hillis because we don't trust hardesty? Tried to address it.
Defense:
Defensive line? Tried to address it. Twice.
Cornerback? Tried to address it.
Safety? Nothing (yet).
Linebacker? Nothing (yet).
We also added in a Tight End that has a lot of potential. And we still have one more pick. Not exactly any big names ... but if we were only after big names we would have taken Taylor Mays over TJ Ward ... and would have traded up for Colt McCoy in the early second as well. I just don't think that this regime is going to satisfy anyone if we only pay attention to the name and starpower of a pick.
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37 1/2 ft dang, Dawg.... that's one helluva stat! guess we'll be using him for jump balls, eh?
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Rd 4: 5th pick (102) | Jordan Cameron TE USC 40 Time: 4.53 sec. | Bench Reps: 23 | Vertical Jump: 37 1/2 ft.
Rd 4: 27th pick (124) | Owen Marecic, FB Stanford 40 Time: 4.87 sec. | Bench Reps: 22 | Vertical Jump: 28 1/2 ft.
Rd 5: 6th pick (137) | Buster Skrine, CB Tennessee-Chattanooga 40 Time: 4.37 sec. | Bench Reps: 20 | Vertical Jump: 37 ft.
Rd 5:19th pick (150) | Jason Pinkston, OT Pittsburgh 40 Time: 5.39 sec. | Bench Reps: N/A | Vertical Jump: 26 1/2 ft.
Rd 7: 45th pick (248)
With a 37 ft verticle, I woulda thought Skrine would be a 1st rounder we should block some kicks this year.
thanks for the info, its been hard to find the list.
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Apparently I'm in the dark about vickers. So we are going to let him go? Correct if I'm wrong, but he is one of our best players on offense.
Are we gonna let him go because he can't catch/fit into th WC offense?
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dang, Dawg.... that's one helluva stat! guess we'll be using him for jump balls, eh?
Yeah, I questioned that one myself but I'm just copying it from the CBS site so point your finger at them and laugh!
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