DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum NFL Playoffs, We're Still In It !!

According to this site http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/playoffrace, the Browns have not been mathematically eliminated yet.

I got ran out of town for posting like this at this time last year too, but I'm just trying to take care of any wondering optimists out there,... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

We're going to the Super Bowl !!!! <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

LOL Nothing wrong with a little humor after a game like yesterday... Thanks, I needed that! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Whatever you are smoking, pass it on man!

SUPER BOWL SUPER BOWL

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I didn't do the math, but at 8-8, there must be some hellacious tiebreakers,....

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nordawg

That's funny. I like your optimism.

That kinda reminds me of that line from Dumb and Dumber where Jim Carrey asks that girl if there is a chance she would go out with him and she says it's like one in a million. So Jim says something like "Well then what you're saying is that I have a chance. Im hearing ya!"

I'm hearing ya, just not feeling ya!

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lol.. if we make the playoffs at this point with 3 wins.. and win out.. WOW!! lol..

thanks for the notice though.. but im almost at a point where i hope they lose games to get a high draft pick.. lol..

I don't think, since the division realignment, that any 8-8 team has made the playoffs?

didn't at least one in teh NFC do it last year??

Don't know about that,...

But we would hold the tiebreaker(s) with the Jets and the Chiefs, ho hum,...

Cool...at least the stooleers aren`t...lmao...

By default, if we are still in so are the Steelers,... <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

If we buy tickets .... <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I think we're still in it, but gotta wait for the day to play out,....

u think 3 AFC North teams will make the playoffs?

Of course not,....it wouldn't happen that way anyhow. It would take our 8-8 record with the Bengals going 7-9.

So no, 3 teams won't make it.

If I have it right, I think Cincy, Denver and Jacksonville all have to lose out, (other teams have to loose anywhere from 1-2 games,) and we have to win out in order to make it. Slim, but anything's possible. <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

I can't even believe that I openned this thread. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Makes life FUN,........ <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

lol it's all in my name my friends it's all in my name lol

Whew, I was getting nervous for a little while...when do playoff tickets go on sale? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

Someone had to. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

going to the superbowl

the superbowl the superbowl

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Uh....we have 8 eight losses, we are not sniffing the playoffs this season or any other with 8 eight losses; no team will ever again make the playoffs with 8 eight losses.

You're probably correct, BUT, the odds of it happening again are greatly encouraged and influenced by two factors---(1) the NFL's continued, but unintended, drive toward parity>>>there are only 2 teams--in this,..WEEK 14--that have been bounced by the math, and (2) the eight, 4 team division setup, where a really weak division in any given year could spit out an 8-8 team, who say, won its division tiebreakers by going 4-2. That's pretty much what happened to the Browns in 85.

Now getting in TODAY at 8-8, with all of the teams who are already sitting on seven wins or better, WOULD be very improbable.

You don't watch the NFC much do ya? <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

in 2004, the 6th seed Wildcard team was 8-8, and it's a very real possibility for this year as well. Granted the Giants & Carolina have only 6 & 5 losses respectively, but the other two teams in the Wildcard hunt over there already have 7 losses. If Philly pulls the upset tonight, the odds get a whole lot better <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Alright friends,...I'm back. For those of you that like it simple, when Denver AND Cincinnati both win another game, the Browns are OUT. For those who like to dream, read on,...

None of you are going to believe this, but I went ahead and made out the spreadsheet anyway. Check this out,...

Team (Record) Games remaining

New York Jets (7-5) Buffalo Minnie Miami Oakland

Cincinnati (7-5) Oakland Indy Denver Pittsburgh

Kansas City (7-5) Baltimore SanD Oakland Jax

Denver (7-5) SanD Arizona Cinc SanFran

Jax (7-5) Indy Tenn New Eng KC

Buffalo (5-7) NYJets Miami Tenn Baltimore

Miami (5-7) New Eng Buff NYJets Indy

Pittsburgh (5-7) Cleve Carolina Baltimore Cincy

Tennessee (5-7) Houston Jax Buff New Eng

Houston (4-8) Tenn New Eng Indy Cleve

Cleveland (4-8) Pitts Baltimore TBay Houston

Now, assume for the sake of assuming, whatever I say goes <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

<hold your breath> Of the five teams that already have 7 wins, only 2 of them hold the tiebreakers with the Browns,...Denver (Hd-t-Hd) and Cincy (2-0).
They both cannot go 7-9 because they play each other, so one has to go to the playoffs, and the other is out. (At this point, assume their game will not end in a tie, i.e both of them going 7-8-1, ain't gonna happen),.....Assume the likelihood of Oakland winning @ Cincy this week is higher than Denver losing to both San Fran and Arizona. So Denver is the # 5 seed. They win out and go 11-5.

<take a deep breath> Cincy loses out and goes 7-9, Jax loses out and goes 7-9. Kansas City's only win is Jax, and goes 8-8. The Jets lose out and go 7-9.

The five-win teams---Buffalo, Miami, Pittsburgh and Tennessee---can all win either 1 or 2 games of their four, ending with 7-9 or 6-10 records, but Buffalo must beat ONLY the Jets and Miami, Miami's only win can be the Jets, Tennessee can ONLY beat Jax and Buffalo, and the Steelers must beat Cincy (already mentioned above). IF we were to finish in a tie with Steelers at 8-8, the Browns hold the better conference record (6-6 vs 5-7), assuming it's only a 3-way tie. KC has lost to both us and the Steelers. They would be out.

Finally, Houston must beat Tennesse this weekend. This scenario, very far-fetched mostly because it calls for the Raiders to win 3 of their next 4 against Cincy, KC and the Jets, leaves the Browns in either a two-way tie with the Chiefs, or a 3-way with the Steelers in there. It comes down to the Chiefs game, because we need them to beat Jax. We win the 2-way with the Chiefs, head-to head, and the 3-way with them and the Steelers.

This is only ONE possibility; there are OTHERS. Call me crazy, I don't care,...I do this every year at this time and it keeps me entertained. And somebody was watching me in 1985 in Okinawa when I did it, and it worked. If only one of you appreciates my effort, then it is worth it.

If you want a copy of the spreadsheet, PM me and I'll e-mail it to you.

You can call me moron all you want. I love numbers and possibilities--notice I didn't say "probabilities." <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

they only problem is... this isn't reality and it's only a mathmatial equasion that will probably be over after we play Balt LOL!

I never said reality, you did.

To succeed... you need to find something to hold onto, something to motviate you, and something that inspires you...

Nice breakdown. I enjoyed reading it. <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

You forgot to tag it with "and they lived happily ever after" though.. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

Thanks Tulsa, I enjoyed putting it together.

I know... I had a bad day so I had to bust someone's bubble <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />


all joking aside.. Thank you for puttin your time and effort into this post! <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

The beginning should be

Once upon a time if you are from the North and You're not gonna believe this shiii (I can't finish but I'm sure you got the idea) if your in the South <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Glad to see you have a sense of humor, next year I'll start it out that way,...oh hell next year I probably won't have to since we'll be 10-2 at this point,...

only on wednesdays <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

i just can't see an 8-8 being good enough to get any kind of a playoff spot

in the afc, that is...

Very interesting indeed. I could see the Raiders winning against CIN, KC, and NYJ, what? Couldn't you???? <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

But if we won out and finished 8-8, I'd probably feel like we won the Super Bowl, playoffs or not <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />