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Buck just got a solo shot to cut the deficit down to 2!


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Well .. Travis Buck gets the 1st home run of the year off Papelbon ............

Tribe down 4-2.

Papelbon throws over Orlando Cabrera's head .....


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2 outs .... no one on ..... down by 2 agaist one of the best closers in the game ........ gonna be tough at this point.


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Well .. LaPorta gave it a ride ..... but just short of the wall.



I am worried about Carmona. We have 16 losses this year and he has 5 of them. That's astronomical for your staff "ace". (and only half of his starts have been quality starts)


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Carmona has stunk now since 2007. It's nothing new really.

I was at the game tonight. Had a good time despite the loss.

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i hope he gets it together, he was ok last night, but he hasn't been anything close to a #1.

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Fausto has been inconsistent, no doubt. However, he has hardly stunk. Six out of his 10 starts have been quality starts. Anytime you hold the opposing team to 4 or fewer runs, you've given your guys a chance to win. If our run production was more consistent this season, he could easily be 6-2.

I'm not saying Fausto is a stud. He isn't. However, he isn't nearly as bad as some folks think he is.


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Fausto's problem is that people still remember that NYY playoff game and really the whole 2007 playoffs. Unfortunately, we haven't seen that Fausto since then except in rare glimpses.

It doesn't help he was tabbed our #1 starter by default coming into the season. Fortunately for him, Masterson and Tomlin have been our 1/2 starters and he is fighting Talbot&White for the #3 spot (Carrasco has a ton to prove but he'll get his chance with White on the DL).

Tough loss but they hung tough and scored late runs as usual in losses this year. I hate Beckett.


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Fausto's problem is that people still remember that NYY playoff game and really the whole 2007 playoffs. Unfortunately, we haven't seen that Fausto since then except in rare glimpses.

It doesn't help he was tabbed our #1 starter by default coming into the season. Fortunately for him, Masterson and Tomlin have been our 1/2 starters and he is fighting Talbot&White for the #3 spot (Carrasco has a ton to prove but he'll get his chance with White on the DL).

Tough loss but they hung tough and scored late runs as usual in losses this year. I hate Beckett.




Understandable, but I respect his ability. He seems to be lights out against our Tribe. Who are they throwing tonite ?

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if I didn't respect him, then I wouldn't hate him

actually, we have done pretty well against him in the regular season. he hasn't pitched terrible, but we generally have gotten the win. last night was his first regular season win against the Tribe in his career (BoSox have won when he's started, he just didn't get the win).

of course, i would trade all those regular season wins for that one playoff game. ah well.


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2 outs .... no one on ..... down by 2 agaist one of the best closers in the game ........ gonna be tough at this point.




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Fausto has been inconsistent, no doubt. However, he has hardly stunk. Six out of his 10 starts have been quality starts. Anytime you hold the opposing team to 4 or fewer runs, you've given your guys a chance to win. If our run production was more consistent this season, he could easily be 6-2.

I'm not saying Fausto is a stud. He isn't. However, he isn't nearly as bad as some folks think he is.




Not talking about just this season. He was decent last year, but got overhyped because of how bad the Indians were in so many other respects. Got an all-star nod but only because every team gets a rep. He was lousy in '09 and couldn't stay healthy in '08. Best thing he did that year was whip Gary Sheffield's ass.

He's a great pitcher when everything's going well but I think that he doesn't have the mental makeup to be a #1.

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holy friggin cow. just loaded up the game here and it's 7-0 already. ouch.


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No kidding,....I forgot today would be a get-out-of-town early start. Who's pitching this fiasco ?

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Talbot .... 9 hits, 7ERs in one inning.

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Who's Boston got on the mound ?

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Thanks,..can't get cbssportsline's Gametracker to come up,....Seems to me we have had success against TimBo before ?

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Okay, I guess I'll have to settle for 2 outta 3.



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You can have them,...no harm, no foul,...still in first by 5.

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Whoa! Guess maybe Talbot wasn't ready yet ......

Gonna need a huge comeback today.


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Talbot hasn't been out of trouble yet in this game.

8-0 Boston with runners at 1st and 3rd, 1 out, and Ortiz at the plate.


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2 more errors for Choo also. Was he this bad last year?


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Still hitting well, but this DUI dorked up his brain housing group,....

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the simple answer is no. he gambled a bit before on gunning runners out, but his defense has slipped along with his offense this year (though his hitting has started to turn around lately)


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Okay, I guess I'll have to settle for 2 outta 3.




yeah, apparently the Tribe is filming a Southwest commercial today (wanna get away) and throwing out a pitcher who was obviously not ready yet and a neutered lineup is not helping either.


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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=6584412

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The best shortstop in the American League this year is not closing in on 3,000 hits, he's getting close to 500. He has an unusual first name, his last name is the same as his double-play partner and he was traded for a current ESPN analyst who had only 17 hits after the deal.


Meet Asdrubal Cabrera of the Cleveland Indians. He is 25 years old, a switch-hitter and, so far this season, the best player on the best team in baseball. Don't tell him that, he will wave you off and change the subject as quickly as possible, fearing too much talk is not good. But Indians second baseman Orlando Cabrera keeps bringing up how good Asdrubal Cabrera can be, something that started, Indians manager Manny Acta said, "the first day of spring training.''

Orlando Cabrera smiled. "I talk to him every day,'' he said. "I watch him take batting practice, and he has tremendous power to all fields. I go to him and ask, 'Why are you choking up?' He will look at us in BP and say, 'Hey, I'm going oppo [opposite field],' and he doesn't just go oppo, he goes oppo 10 rows up. It's incredible. He is still an underrated played, but before this season, he didn't believe he could do what he's doing now. Now he does.''


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Asdrubal Cabrera is leading the charge for the surging Indians.
The numbers are striking. Cabrera is hitting .305 with a team-leading 10 home runs and 34 RBIs, each of which lead AL shortstops, as well. Sunday against the Reds, he became the fourth Indians player ever to record five hits, hit two home runs and drive in five runs in one game and joined Roy McMillan of the 1960 Reds as the only shortstops in baseball history to do that. Monday against the Red Sox, Cabrera went 3-for-4, including a go-ahead RBI double in the eighth inning that gave the Indians a 3-2 win. That made it eight hits in nine at-bats, and all Cabrera would say after the game was, "I'm feeling really good now.''

In the historic 5-for-5 game against the Reds, "He came to the dugout after the home run to right-center and said that he didn't hit that ball that well,'' Orlando Cabrera said. "And it still went way out.'' The next night, he homered again to right-center. "I'm telling you, when he gets a ball airborne to right-center, it goes out every time,'' Orlando Cabrera said. On Asdrubal Cabrera's game-winning hit against Boston -- a two-out double in the eighth with first base open and slumping Shin-Soo Choo on deck -- one Indian said, "I can't believe they pitched to him.''

Cabrera has always been a good hitter -- he batted .308 in 2009 -- but the power is new this year. He never hit more than eight homers in any professional season. Last year, in 381 at-bats, he drove in 29 runs. But his fly ball rate has gone up in each of the past three years, which helps him to hit home runs, as does the constant talk from Orlando Cabrera to go deep.

"Every day, he talks to me,'' said Asdrubal Cabrera, who is not related to Orlando. "He never stops talking. I was afraid if I started to hit home runs, my average would drop. But it hasn't. I'm not choking up now.''

Orlando Cabrera smiled again and said, "He was afraid that if he hit 10 homers this year, his average would drop to .250. I told him, 'When you hit more home runs, sometimes your average goes up.' I didn't try to tell him to hit a home run every time up, but to pick your spots and drive the ball when you can. Now he is. He's getting big hits at big times.''

Asdrubal Cabrera has had a knack for that ever since the Indians acquired him from Seattle in 2006 in exchange for Eduardo Perez, now an ESPN analyst. Cabrera has gotten better every year since the trade, but last season, his progress was slowed when he broke his right forearm, then tried to come back too early. Then he hurt his leg, and never got going afterward. Now he is healthy, and playing in every way like a player who is headed to the All-Star Game.

"He was always a good player, but this year, he is as good [a shortstop] as I've seen in a while,'' said Indians backup shortstop Adam Everett, 33, who is with his fourth major league team. "When I got here this year, I know I wasn't a threat to his position, but he introduced himself to me and told me he was glad I was here. I was very impressed by that.''



He is arguably the best defensive shortstop in the league. He makes plays look so easy out there. And he has a tremendous arm.


-- Indians second baseman Orlando Cabrera on Asdrubal Cabrera

Cabrera is impressive in every way, including his defense. He grew up in Venezuela idolizing countryman Omar Vizquel, who wore uniform No. 13 in his years with the Indians, the same number Cabrera now wears. "He doesn't have the range that, say, Jack Wilson had in his prime, but he's got good range,'' Everett said. "And he catches everything hit to him.''

Said Orlando Cabrera: "He is arguably the best defensive shortstop in the league. He makes plays look so easy out there. And he has a tremendous arm.''

The only thing Asdrubal Cabrera doesn't do well is answer questions about himself -- he says, "It's too early,'' presumably meaning that he hasn't done enough in the game to warrant talking about himself too much. But Orlando Cabrera has talked to him about that, too.

"I told him that more and more interviews will be coming, and he should talk more, but he is scared to do that,'' Orlando Cabrera said. "I told him it comes with the territory of being a star.''







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The Cleveland Indians lack the financial wherewithal to compete for big-name free agents and their recent draft history is nondescript, to put it kindly. But the Tribe sure does hold its own on the trade market.

Think Einar Diaz and Ryan Drese to Texas in exchange for Travis Hafner. Or wrap your mind around the great prospect heist of 2002, when former Cleveland general manager Mark Shapiro sent Bartolo Colon to Montreal for Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Cliff Lee.

If the Colon trade serves as the gold standard for parlaying a short-term asset into long-term gains, the Indians also have a flair for stockpiling young talent in installments. Exhibits A and B came during a 26-day span in the summer of 2006, when Shapiro fleeced the Seattle Mariners in stereo.


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Asdrubal Cabrera leads all American League shortstops with 10 home runs and 34 RBIs.
Scan the roster for the Indians, the surprise American League Central leaders, and you'll find quite a bounty by way of the Pacific Northwest. Asdrubal Cabrera, who leads AL shortstops with 10 homers, 58 hits and an .900 OPS, arrived from Seattle five years ago in a late June deal for Eduardo Perez. Less than a month later, the Indians acquired outfield prospect Shin-Soo Choo and pitcher Shawn Nottingham from the Mariners for Ben Broussard.

As astounding as it seems to be that the Indians could acquire two cornerstone, All-Star caliber players in separate deals for a platoon designated hitter tandem, Shapiro admits that a certain element of luck was involved. A committee made up of Pat Gillick, John Schuerholz and Branch Rickey wouldn't have been smart enough to map things out this seamlessly.

"Your goal in doing trades is to have them be a win-win,'' said Shapiro, now Cleveland's club president. "Even when we traded Chuck Finley [to St. Louis] for Coco Crisp or Mark DeRosa [to the Cardinals] for Chris Perez, you want the player that you send to the other team to provide them with what they want. You're not looking to steal players and win trades. You like trades to be a foundation for a future trade.

"And no one was smart enough to think we were getting what we got. I guarantee if you went back and read our reports on Choo, we identified him as a potential big leaguer, but not as one of the best all-around players in the big leagues. Not one scout and no objective analysis said that.''


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In 2006, Baseball America ranked Cabrera and Choo as Seattle's sixth and seventh best prospects -- right behind Jeff Clement, Adam Jones, Kenji Johjima, Chris Snelling and Matt Tuiasosopo -- but neither player was regarded as a can't-miss, lights-out, sure-thing bet to succeed in the majors.

The Indians, who won 93 games in 2005 and came one victory short of a World Series appearance in 2007, were muddling their way through a disappointing 78-win season in 2006 when Shapiro and assistant GM Chris Antonetti began looking for ways to keep the payroll under control and spin some veteran talent into long-range help.

Seattle, conversely, was willing to dig into its prospect inventory for short-term upgrades even though the team was not at the point of contending. The Mariners finished 15 games out of first place in the AL West in 2006 at 78-84 -- an identical record to Cleveland's. But former GM Bill Bavasi said the M's were trying to send a message to the fan base and the players that the club was serious about winning.

"We were trying to get better fast,'' Bavasi said in an email. "Believe me, in Seattle there was no taste for a five-year plan, and no matter how things turned out, I respect that attitude. The 2006 club was sort of starting to get it together and we believed it was important for the players to see we were serious about … maybe not winning … but at least getting better now.''



No one was smart enough to think we were getting what we got. I guarantee if you went back and read our reports on [Shin-Soo] Choo, we identified him as a potential big leaguer, but not as one of the best all-around players in the big leagues. Not one scout and no objective analysis said that.


-- Indians team president Mark Shapiro

The teams' divergent approaches provided the basis for a trade a month before the July 31 non-waiver deadline. The Mariners had a promising young double-play combination in shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt and second baseman Jose Lopez and another middle infield prospect on the way in Luis Valbuena, and they were willing to move Cabrera, who was suffering some growing pains on his way up the chain. The Mariners pushed Cabrera aggressively through the system, having him skip Double-A ball, and Cabrera hit .236 in 60 games with Triple-A Tacoma in 2006.

"Cabrera won't be an offensive force, but he's a switch-hitter with bat control and a whole-field approach,'' Baseball America wrote that year. "His speed is just average, and he doesn't have standout ability in terms of power, base stealing or on-base ability. Defense is Cabrera's forte.''

Seattle was looking for a bat to replace DH Carl Everett and settled on Perez, a positive clubhouse presence and established role player who slugged .501 against left-handed pitching over the course of his career. But the Mariners didn't see many lefties down the stretch, and Perez receded into the background. He hit .195 in 43 games, and moved on to a new career shortly thereafter as an analyst for ESPN's "Baseball Tonight.''

One deal down, one to go. The amazing thing is that Cleveland was able to go back to the well and find common ground with Seattle again less than four weeks later.


Enter Phase II

Broussard showed decent power in five seasons with the Indians, averaging a home run every 26.4 plate appearances. But he made $2.4 million in 2006 and was about to get more expensive in salary arbitration, and manager Eric Wedge was not a fan of his glove work at first base. When the Indians began putting out trade feelers, multiple suitors emerged. One deal under discussion would have sent Broussard to the Los Angeles Angels for first baseman Casey Kotchman, who was injured and had lost much of his luster as a former hotshot prospect.

Dave Malpass, the same scout who had pushed so strenuously for the Indians to acquire Sizemore from Montreal, was a strong advocate for Choo. But some talent evaluators questioned whether Choo would ever hit left-handers consistently or provide the desired power for a corner outfielder. With Ichiro Suzuki entrenched in right field in Seattle, Choo was never going to play the position for the Mariners.

Broussard gave Seattle a short-term power boost. But as his production waned, his attention began to drift away from baseball to his other passion, music. He retired in 2008 and channeled his talents as a singer/songwriter and guitar player into a second CD a year later.

Bavasi, who was fired by the Mariners in 2008 and now works as a special assistant to Cincinnati GM Walt Jocketty, spent a lot more time second-guessing the Cabrera trade than the Choo-for-Broussard deal.

"Safeco Field being what it is, we really felt a left-handed hitter with some power now would help us a ton,'' Bavasi said of Broussard. "That's one of those deals that I look back at and think, 'Made sense at the time.' Nobody went nuts losing Choo. The deal stunk, but you win some, you lose some.''

The Cabrera deal, in contrast, continues to sting. In hindsight, Bavasi concedes he made a "bad mistake'' in not consulting Bob Engle, who was running the Mariners' international scouting operation and had signed Cabrera as a 16-year-old free agent out of Venezuela.


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Shin-Soo Choo batted an even .300 in each of the past two seasons.
"Bob was really upset as the year went on and Eduardo sat,'' Bavasi said. "As opposed to the Choo deal, I thought, 'The GM of this Seattle club is a f---ing idiot.'''

If this comes as any consolation to angry Seattle fans, Bavasi punishes himself over the Cabrera deal almost as much as they do.

The Indians, conversely, are thrilled with their end of the trades. Over the past two seasons, Choo posted an OPS of .884, third highest among major league right fielders behind Nelson Cruz and Jayson Werth. After a slow start this year, he's picked up the pace lately to raise his batting average to .244.

"To me, he's one of most complete players in the game,'' Shapiro said. "He has the ability at any given time to throw out a runner, steal a key base, hit a home run, work a walk or make a diving catch. He can beat you in any facet of the game, and he's driven to be better.''

As for Cabrera, he has debunked the early perception that he's more glove than bat. He's selective enough to work counts and strong enough to drive the ball into the gap and beyond, and he relishes stepping to the plate in big situations. Shapiro uses the word "fearless'' to describe Cabrera's competitive mindset. As an added bonus, Cabrera is perpetuating a Cleveland tradition in the middle infield.

Let's wrap up this baseball history lesson with a flashback to 1993, when Indians general manager John Hart sent Felix Fermin, Reggie Jefferson and cash to Seattle for a defensive upgrade at shortstop. Omar Vizquel went on to win eight of his 11 Gold Gloves in an Indians uniform and become a valuable contributor on some dominant Cleveland teams in the '90s.

Almost two decades later, the Mariners are doing their part to spark another baseball resurgence in Cleveland. They're the Indians' gift that keeps on giving.


Jerry Crasnick is a senior writer for ESPN.com





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Nice article on A. Cab. He should be the All-Star starter (though he won't be because of Jeter) and if the Tribe stays hot all season long with him leading the charge, you have to give him MVP consideration.

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I love Jeter, but he is dead.

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I was perusing: http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2011/02/2011-depth-chart.html

Did everyone else already know we have a reliever in Akron who would cause widespread chaos if ever called up to the Tribe?

C.C. Lee

my mind = blown

and the site also has him listed as our 18th best prospect:
http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2011/03/2011-indians-top-50-prospects-18-chen.html


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maybe they can trade him twice.

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LOL That's pretty cool.

Man .... we've hit our bumps in the road. It's 5-0 Tampa going to the 8th.

Ouch. This could be 3 in a row for the bad guys.


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What's that? Oh, nothing. Just another Fausto Carmona meltdown.

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*Sigh*

Oh well ... time to get back on track.


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about as an embarrassing loss you will have all year. Losing to a pitcher that hasn't won in 3 years. pitches a complete game at that. They need to get hafner back asap, or make a trade for a bat. the way they're playing they could lose this in a few weeks. No pitching, hitting, or defense.

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they went from being in every game to getting shelled every game.

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Ugh, I hope we bounce back from this. I stop watching the games, due to current location, and we start losing.

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Verducci recollects the old Sparky Anderson wisdom:

"Teams 5 games under .500 and 5 games out of a playoff spot are doomed"


The funny thing is that eliminates the Twins, White Sox, and Royals already. And, the Tigers barely avoided the same fate (if they would have lost their last game, they would have fallen into it as well).

Gotta love being in the AL Central


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I think the Tribe is OK for now. You can have bad stretches, it happens. Pitchers are going to have their rough patches, especially guys that aren't in that upper echelon Roy Halladay class.

What worries me is if they continue to tread water they way they have, which is fine, they get a lead to Perez and he blows it, maybe once or twice, could that doom the confidence of a young team?

Right until now the bullpen has been rock solid, not perfect, but I think they have earned their paychecks. Perez has been shaky but has gotten the job done.

That can't change. They are in a rough spot and aren't playing well, he has to make sure he closes what they give him.

That's just my opinon though.

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