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Did Colt McCoy’s wife just blow a hole in Texas football?
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After the ruckus that went up about Cam Newton's(notes) final days at Auburn, and that whole pay-to-play scandal played itself out, there was Tresselgate, and a chorus of voices (including Bob Knight, Jack Nicklaus, and Kirk Herbstreit) trying to prove that Ohio State's head coach was a good and moral man who knew nothing about the misdeeds of his players (even though he did). It's been a rough year for an NCAA that finds it more and more difficult to hang on to its authority in an athletic system that has its football players lingering in a 'lite' version of indentured servitude while the programs rake in millions of dollars every year.
The last thing the NCAA needs right now is for another scandal to come out about the football program at another major university, possibly involving another well-respected head coach. But that's what the NCAA may now have, because of what Rachel McCoy, the newlywed wife of former University of Texas and current Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy(notes), said when she called in to Colin Cowherd's ESPN Radio show on Tuesday morning. Cowherd and the new Mrs. McCoy got to talking about NCAA violations, and he asked her whether there were agents and boosters constantly around the young man who left the Longhorns for the NFL after a career in which he posted the sixth-most passing yards in NCAA history.
"His dad did a really good job of handling all of that, so early on, they decided that Colt wouldn't have contact with any of them -- even the best of the best," Rachel McCoy said. "I know he was approached a lot, but you know how Colt is; he can just kind of brush it off and move on and not go down that road. But I saw so many of his teammates who didn't have that self-control to say 'No' to somebody. I can't — it's not my personality and I don't want to hurt people's feelings. It's hard when it's an adult you respect, and you think will know right from wrong.
"You're taught to respect adults, especially in our culture in the South — you do what adults say, because that's how you're taught. So, you have adults offering things and promising the world. We're taught to go along that that, and say, 'Yes,' and accept those things, because that's the respectful thing to do. So, it's interesting to see the adults putting these kids in these positions where they're taught to agree and go along. It's authority, and people who are older that you're taught to respect."
Well, that's where it gets interesting for Texas. Mack Brown has been in charge of that program since 1998, and he's one of the most respected coaches in all of college football. The NCAA has to at least investigate the possibilities outlined by what Rachel McCoy said, and that could very easily wind up causing another you-know-whatstorm for a very big program.
Cowherd: "Now, Rachel McCoy, Colt's wife, they're newlyweds … Rachel, you knew Colt when he was at Texas. What was it like, and what was he being offered regularly?"
McCoy: "Regularly, it was just dinner … most people in Texas are just being friendly and they don't mean anything by it at all. They don't really realize I think, most of the time, that it's a violation. And so, Texas is very strict about making it clear to all their players that you take absolutely nothing. I don't care if it's a hot dog, or a soda — that's just the regular stuff.
"But you've got guys who, like you were saying, are grown adult men with law degrees … you look at it and wonder, 'What are they going to gain out of this?' To me, it's just to say, 'Hey, I bought so-and-so dinner' or 'Hey, I took so-and-so to do this.' These grown men, it's just their pride, that's all it is. And I [saw] it every day. My joke was that my biggest competition with Colt was not girls; it's 40-year-old men who just want to say, 'Hey, I did this with Colt and I did this with his teammates.' And really, it's not going to improve their play at all; that's not the issue. You have to go after these adult men who have these responsibilities and think about these kids.
"It doesn't matter if these [kids] come from nothing, or families who have everything. You cannot expect 19- and 20-year-old kids to say 'No' to free stuff when they're in college. It's silly, and we really do need to make something more set for these adults and hold them accountable. Because it's not fair. Like you were saying, there's really honestly no way these kids can say 'No' to some of this stuff. They don't know half the time, I'm convinced, There's so many things the NCAA is so careful about, it's hard for these guys to know — 'I can take this or I can't, no one's going to know.'"
Cowherd then asked Mrs. McCoy if, when Colt McCoy was winning all those games and making all that money for the university, if even he didn't wonder why he wasn't getting paid.
"And that was the biggest joke. Every time you'd see a little 12-year-old kid running around — and in Austin, whoever's the quarterback, you'd see their jersey everywhere. And it's hard when you're in college when you're making zero dollars and getting zero help. People can say, 'Oh, yeah, all your hopes and dreams are coming true,' but it's hard to see that when Texas is making so much money. You love your school, but it's tough when there are things that could be handed to you that seem so minor — a dinner, a hunt here or there or a fishing trip. Things like that, where most kids don't realize they're illegal, and they're not quite educated on that."
Mrs. McCoy then said that the primary motivation of these boosters is to be remembered when the players make it to the NFL.
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Hmmm... Cmon MRS. McCoy.. don't start getting your husbands alma mater in trouble.. one of my classmates just said he shouldn't have married outside of the "burnt orange bloodline". lol.
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Well, I know there's one thing none of us want, and that's for people to be honest. 
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he apparently didn't marry her for her brains 
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Mentioned this on another thread, but Maurice Clarett was just on the Dan Patrick show and was talking about how he didn't need to sell memorabilia because he could coax free gifts and meals out of people whenever he needed to.
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What's wrong with her exposing this? I mean,, if it happened and it's against the rules,, why shouldn't they be outted?
I applaud her for being forthcoming.
One thing I'm happy about is that Colt had no hand in it. But it shouldn't be a surprise that he was approached... He is, after all, a very recognizable person in Texas.. makes sense that he'd be approached.
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Epic FAIL on CBS sports for not posting a pic to go with the article. What were they thinking?!
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What's wrong with her exposing this? I mean,, if it happened and it's against the rules,, why shouldn't they be outted?
I applaud her for being forthcoming.
mostly, because we all know college football is dirty and the past year with USC, Auburn, Ohio State have demonstrated that it is possibly dirtier than it ever has been before.
however, an alum (like Colt) sure wouldn't want his university being needlessly thrown into the spotlight on these matters. once the NCAA starts digging, they will likely find 'something', so your best bet is to not have them dig.
she just handed them a shovel.
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What's wrong with her exposing this? I mean,, if it happened and it's against the rules,, why shouldn't they be outted?
I applaud her for being forthcoming.
I don't really think it was her intention to "expose" anything. I think she was just talking about how hard it is and how some people cave... I don't think she was trying to be forthcoming about any deep dark secrets.
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Also, I think we'd all be pretty naive if we didn't already have a feeling this stuff was happening. The fact that some players at the University of Texas might have received improper benefits should be about as surprising as Bard Dawg typing an utterly incomprehensible post.
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They should allow these kids to get what they can. Allow them to endorse products and get free dinners. Geezz NCAA football and basketball generate Billions and the honest kid cant afford to eat at freaking mcdonalds.
You can't police it so embrace it. School gets say 10% of the endorsement fee. Everyone wins and the NCAA can continue to exploit the kids they claim to be protecting from the evil boosters.
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They should allow these kids to get what they can. Allow them to endorse products and get free dinners. Geezz NCAA football and basketball generate Billions and the honest kid cant afford to eat at freaking mcdonalds.
I think you have to put a cap on it. I don't think you want Harrison Barnes making millions and driving a Ferrari while at UNC.. but I agree that this zero policy that they can't get a free hot dog or go to a free movie is really stupid.
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How about this... let them make whatever they can in endorsements but.. BUT... it all goes into an escrow account and they get a monthly allowance out of it.. say $2000 a month.. and the school gets 10% to put toward something non-athletic like academic scholarships.... the kids get enough to live well in college but not enough to be living the high life... the college gets their money and then when they leave college they get the rest... so those players who are good in college but it doesn't translate to the pros, at least they would have some coin in the bank.
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one potential problem once you start paying players or allowing them to go and get endorsements.
some player will sue their school and the NCAA for using their image/jersey in merchandise and games. ex-players are already doing so for using 'historical teams' in video games. once you allow players to get endorsements, t»ey own their image and they will demand a cut.
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the money thing too would affect college recruiting.. If I'm the best QB coming out of high school... It could be to my benefit to go to a school that I KNOW will have paying sponsors, and no other school can match it..
totally takes away from the things kids consider now like atmosphere, school setting, fans, conference, etc.
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Most football players are on a full ride scholarship. Many also received athletic and/or academic scholarships while in high school that help. Then they can get student loans ..... which can be used for "McDonalds" and other such things.
Many schools spend in excess of $100,000 on a college athlete for a 4 year scholarship. These guys aren't playing for free.
Ditto for mens and wonens basketball teams, and one other womens team to satisfy the idiotic NCAA requirements for "gender fairness".
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wait.. i just thought about it.. don't the scholarships cover the universities meal plan?
They don't need no freakin' McDonalds. lol.
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I work with a lot of people around the world. A guy from Spain and I were talking about football and soccer....so I asked him, how big is university soccer in Spain, it has to be just as big as the pro leagues. He said there's nothing about college soccer. No TV, no media coverage....nothing. It's all about the pro's.
I think we're trying to make a perfect system for both...and it's not working. Either take them off the air or turn them into true minor professional leagues. Otherwise, it will be the same horrible cheating crap every year.
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Unless I'm missing something, what did she say that would have "blown a hole in Texas football?" All she really said was that people offered stuff to Colt but he turned it down. It's not like she said that Mack Brown was setting his players up with boosters or something like that.
And yes Turk, scholarships cover everything from living expenses, books, food, spending money, etc. All of the players also get stipends on road trips, which they frequently never even use since the university pays for food and accommodations. I would also imagine OSU has training tables for athletes, as many of the big time schools do. The reason these guys need money is because they buy cars they have no business buying, they get sleeves of tattoos that cost thousands of dollars, new clothes, jewelry, and so on. Basically living beyond their means. They probably need money for food and to pay gas and electric bills because they use the spending money the school gives them on useless crap.
I had a ton of friends who were athletes at OU. I'm not trying to compare the culture at OU and OSU in terms of athletics because it is obviously very different. However, I know what they got from the university every quarter in terms of money for living expenses, and for the most part none of them even came close to spending it all. Some of them didn't come from great backgrounds either.
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What's wrong with her exposing this? I mean,, if it happened and it's against the rules,, why shouldn't they be outted?
I applaud her for being forthcoming.
I don't really think it was her intention to "expose" anything. I think she was just talking about how hard it is and how some people cave... I don't think she was trying to be forthcoming about any deep dark secrets.
I understand all that, I was speaking to No Logo because of his comment... I just don't consider it a big deal...
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You know ...I agree I don't think that is her intention either....but that just might end up being the result. But here is the thing. Mack Brown is a Good Man....Bob Stoops is a Good Man, Joe Paterno is a Good Man........Jim Tressel is a Good Man.....I kind of hope something does turn up because of this. Perhaps if it can be shown how rampant this problem is. Maybe some change can come about from it. Because if it happens on teams of good people like Mack Brown and Joe Paterno......and it is......Then it is happening EVERYWHERE...And it needs to be addressed.
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You know what should happen? Every school that offers scholarships should send about 50 letters to the NCAA...
Dear NCAA, 3 UNC girls soccer players went to the movies last Saturday and the ticket person only charged them for 2. We think it was an honest mistake, but we just wanted to let you know so you can investigate.
Dear NCAA, 2 Boston U hockey players got a free chalupa because there is a coupon for one on the back of the hockey ticket and their parents gave them the coupons. Since they play for the team and this was a ticket to their game, is that a violation?
Dear NCAA, a UCLA golfer went to play Pebble Beach last weekend and the guy in the shop changed his soft spikes for free. I'm pretty sure they will do this for anybody but just wanted to let you know so you could investigate.
Dear NCAA, a Wisconsin football player let a girl wear his sweatsuit jacket the other day because it was raining. Later she had sex with him but when she left his house she took the jacket. Is either the sex or her stealing the jacket a violation?
I would think that if 150 schools each send about 50 letters that should be enough for the NCAA to get the point that this is stupid.
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It's been a rough year for an NCAA that finds it more and more difficult to hang on to its authority in an athletic system that has its football players lingering in a 'lite' version of indentured servitude while the programs rake in millions of dollars every year.
* Pffft * (Spits drink on monitor) 
Yeah, it's ALMOST just like the 17th & 18th century for these poor kids. The lite version . . .
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Did Colt McCoy’s wife just blow a hole in Texas football?
I heard that's what attracted him to her in the first place.
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It's been a rough year for an NCAA that finds it more and more difficult to hang on to its authority in an athletic system that has its football players lingering in a 'lite' version of indentured servitude while the programs rake in millions of dollars every year.
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Yeah, it's ALMOST just like the 17th & 18th century for these poor kids. The lite version . . .
Well, they are just training them for the modern day slave handlers that the NFL teams are. 
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Thanx. I owe you one. Feel the love in the room. I will try to type slower in the future. LOL 
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Last weeks southpark episode hit this topic lol hilarious.
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Thanx. I owe you one. Feel the love in the room. I will try to type slower in the future. LOL
You know I'm just razzin' you.
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Good because most people in here can't read very fast anyway.
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Did Colt McCoy’s wife just blow a hole in Texas football?
IMO, Rachel McCoy has not harmed the Texas football program by saying what everyone already knows is going on at the college level...that college athletes "everywhere" get offered freebies by boosters, fans, agents and many of the athletes accept those offers.
GUESS WHAT, IT'S NOT JUST OHIO STATE, FOLKS !
Hats off to Rachel McCoy for simply "telling the truth" and doing what so many are afraid to admit, that the players at TEXAS have done the same thing players at Ohio State are being crucified for...accepted free stuff.
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The last thing the NCAA needs right now is for another scandal to come out about the football program at another major university, possibly involving another well-respected head coach. But that's what the NCAA may now have, because of what Rachel McCoy, the newlywed wife of former University of Texas and current Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy(notes), said when she called in to Colin Cowherd's ESPN Radio show on Tuesday morning.
What an "asinine" comment from the writer, Doug Farrar !
The last thing the NCAA needs right now is for another scandal to come out?
Who gives a damn what the NCAA needs?
So it's ok if USC and Ohio State get hammered for dumb stuff that their players did, but to tell the truth about TEXAS football players, is what?...WRONG?...OUT OF BOUNDS?...UNTHINKABLE?...DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS?...
Should Texas be held to the same standard that Ohio State is being held to?
Rachel McCoy simply told the truth about her experiences, being an athlete herself and being closely associated with the Texas Longhorns QB for the last two or three years. College athletes are given free stuff by fans, boosters, agents and just plain old "good people".
Free stuff is offered and many of the athletes accept the offer. Yes, it is a violation of NCAA rules, accepting improper benefits and if we were to keep a tally like some writers are doing concerning T. Pryor...we might be shocked at the amounts some Texas football players have racked up in improper benefits.
Got news for the NCAA...folks offer free stuff and football players accept the free stuff, at Alabama, too...just like they do at Michigan and Wisconsin...just like they do at Florida and Tennessee...just like they do at U. of Washington and UCLA...same goes for Utah and Nevada.
There, now the cat is out of the bag...a very high percentage of college athletes accept free stuff, when it is offered to them.
NOW WHAT IS THE NCAA GONNA DO ABOUT IT?
How far is the NCAA gonna go with this charade they are playing, taking down major college programs because some players accept freebies that are offered?
Should the NCAA investigate Texas?...HELL YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the NCAA wants to have any creditability on the issue, they must investigate the Texas football program and Mac Brown.
OR the NCAA could be realistic and stop pretending that only football players at Ohio State and USC are guilty of accepting "improper benefits".
The NCAA does have a bit of a mess on their hands now that Rachel McCoy, let the world know that what has gone on at Ohio State concerning improper benefits, goes on at Texas, also.
What you gonna do NCAA?
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Rachel McCoy talks boosters, agents at UT 9 Jun 2011 During Colt McCoy’s college career, he was twice named an All-American, scored a school-record 102 touchdowns and won a NCAA-record 45 games. McCoy was the quintessential Longhorn quarterback – talented, productive and likable. But his wife, Rachel, made some controversial comments Tuesday, claiming that boosters frequently approach student-athletes at the University of Texas with improper invitations. Rachel McCoy called in to ESPN Radio’s “The Herd with Colin Cowherd” to discuss relationships between boosters and football players, as well as between agents and her husband. She asserted that athletes were offered things like “a dinner, a hunt, a fishing trip,” also adding, “At Texas, you’re taught to take absolutely nothing.” University of Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds swiftly responded. “We take compliance very seriously at Texas,” Dodds said Wednesday in a statement. “We have procedures in place that enable our coaches, student-athletes and administrators to make the right choices. We are performing our due diligence as always to make certain there are no outstanding compliance issues.” The comments made by Rachel McCoy and the statement issued by Dodds come on the heels of fiascos unraveling at Ohio State and the University of Southern California, where improper benefits were given to star players and punishments were retroactively handed down. Between the two programs, 30 scholarships, two years of bowl eligibility, a Heisman Trophy, a national championship, a head coach and a starting quarterback were lost. Incidents like these lead many to believe that a culture of corruption characterizes college athletics, especially in college football. “People in Texas are just being friendly, they don’t mean anything by it at all,” she said. “You cannot expect 19- to 20-year-old kids to say no to free stuff when they’re in college.” While there could not have been much malice behind her words, it remains baffling as to why she would randomly call into a radio show (one of the nation’s most-listened to radio shows, at that). What’s even stranger, however, is what she said once she made the call. She questions what “grown, adult men with law degrees” would get out of extending a dinner invitation, but fails to realize the dire consequences that could befall a program (see Ohio State and USC) if those invitations are accepted. “It’s hard because you have adults who you respect and who you think will know what’s right and wrong,” Rachel McCoy said. “My joke is that my biggest competition with Colt is not girls, it’s 40-year-old men who just want to say, ‘Hey, I did this with Colt’ and ‘Hey, I did this with his teammates.’” This is not to say that Rachel McCoy is a bad person or even what she did was all that bad — it was merely startling and ill-timed, considering the violations and sanctions that have dominated college football headlines recently. More importantly, her comments are unlikely to trigger investigations or consequences like they did at Ohio State and USC. Nevertheless, the call and the comments made during the call should not have been made. Rachel McCoy and Cowherd spent six minutes wondering why boosters wave perks under student-athlete’s noses or why agents kept bugging Colt when he was in college. Now, Texas fans are left wondering what compelled Rachel McCoy to have that conversation in the first place. web page You have to marvel at the attitude of the sports media in Texas, saying Rachel McCoy's comments were "merely startling and ill timed" and "the call should not have been made".
Clearly, the sports media in Texas just wants this subject to go away without anyone digging for or volunteering further information and specifics.
A very creditable source brings out some info, that "impermissible benefits" are generally offered to and accepted by Texas Longhorn football players and the local media's attitude is "nothing to see here, move along folks".
The Daily Texan even questions why Rachel McCoy made the call and discussed the subject...
..." Now, Texas fans are left wondering what compelled Rachel McCoy to have that conversation in the first place."
Rachel McCoy was an athlete herself and is the wife of an ex-Texas Longhorn football player. She has seen the Texas Football program up close and personal and likely knows more the subject of "impermissible benefits" than 99% of the sports writers opinning on the subject.
I guess, in Texas, a woman's place is in the home and a woman is to be seen but never allowed to speak. Obviously, ESPN did not feel the same when they took her call.
My question is, will ESPN follow up on the information that was handed to them, and do an independent investigation into the Longhorns football program...or will the national sports media play along with the local Texas media, and simply sweep this information under the rug.
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Here is a link to what schools pay to their athletes on full ride per year. http://www.collegedata.com/cs/search/college/college_search_tmpl.jhtmlThey show in state and out of state rates, tiution only, and total cost of attendance.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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