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ok, since FA might start on Monday (well, Wednesday night after the 72 hour sign your own guys period ends), here's my list of guys to target.
Joe Thomas is obviously priority1 and 1A even though he’s signed for this season.
of our own, I really want Yates back. he played really well at RG and would leave us just 1 position to solidify there. we also really need to look at Jayme Mitchell and Robaire Smith for DL depth if nothing else as we have virtually none.
RT: forget Free, Clabo, Gaither. too expensive for RT. I’d say go after 27yo Jermon Bushrod who the Saints might not have room to sign and he’s more of a RT than LT anyway. Ryan Harris is another name that we could consider, but he’s been a bit injury prone. Marshal Yanda might be able to handle a shift to RT. If those are all too pricey, Marion Henderson is who I would want to go after (Raiders in cap trouble, Henderson was miscast as a LT last season when he’s a RT).
LB: the Packers are staring at salary cap issues and will need to trade Nick Barnett. he also goes by the name “perfect 4-3 MLB for the Browns”. If not, Takeo Spikes is older, but could fill the stop-gap role at least. Other guys to target who won’t command top-dollar: Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard
DE: I really like Cliff Avril. They tendered him a 1st and 3rd so he’ll be a tough get (and would require draft compensation too). Andre Carter wants to go back to the 4-3 and we should see if we can help him with that. Bowen is an interesting one. Too bad Minny re-upped on Robison before the lockout. Ray McDonald and Jarvis Moss are a couple other names we could use in DE-rotations.
S: already talked about ad nauseum. Goldson, Weddle, Whitner, Mikell. Heck, even Elam if we strikeout on those 3. We have no choice but to sign somebody and hopefully we make the right choice. there’s also DeAndre McDaniel who reportedly didn’t get drafted because of character concerns?
CB: Josh Wilson would be a steal from Baltimore. He’s likely too pricey for a position of non-urgent-need though. I am not opposed to bringing Eric Wright back. Another guy I would have liked is Stanford Routt but the Raiders somehow managed to overpay him already ($10mil/year).
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Joe Thomas is obviously priority1 and 1A even though he’s signed for this season.
Wow, he's going to be a very rich man. Hopefully he wants to stay (or there is still a franchise tag to use).
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RT: forget Free, Clabo, Gaither. too expensive for RT. I’d say go after 27yo Jermon Bushrod who the Saints might not have room to sign and he’s more of a RT than LT anyway. Ryan Harris is another name that we could consider, but he’s been a bit injury prone. Marshal Yanda might be able to handle a shift to RT.
First of all, I doubt the Browns make a move for any RT (I'm aware you're not saying you think they will). Second, Yanda played right tackle all of last year and might get paid just as much as any of the left tackles. He's going to break the bank at around $7 million a year. Bushrod wouldn't be bad though.
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LB: the Packers are staring at salary cap issues and will need to trade Nick Barnett. he also goes by the name “perfect 4-3 MLB for the Browns”. If not, Takeo Spikes is older, but could fill the stop-gap role at least. Other guys to target who won’t command top-dollar: Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard
I would like to see the Browns go after Stewart Bradley. He's had some injury issues but is a very good MLB when healthy. Paul Posluszny is a good player too, but again, injuries. D'Qwell will be playing WILL and a MIKE is desperately needed. Morrison isn't very good and at this point, I think Spikes needs to be in a 3-4. Howard is another WILL.
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DE: I really like Cliff Avril. They tendered him a 1st and 3rd so he’ll be a tough get (and would require draft compensation too). Andre Carter wants to go back to the 4-3 and we should see if we can help him with that. Bowen is an interesting one. Too bad Minny re-upped on Robison before the lockout. Ray McDonald and Jarvis Moss are a couple other names we could use in DE-rotations.
Avril will be a UFA since he is 4 years pro and Moss is just terrible. Bowen is either a 3-4 end or 4-3 tackle and he would be a backup here. I would like to see a move after Avril though. He is a very good pass rusher and fits what Jauron wants to do. He also won't be nearly as expensive as Charles Johnson or Ray Edwards. Kiwianuka would be a good guy to after as well.
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S: already talked about ad nauseum. Goldson, Weddle, Whitner, Mikell. Heck, even Elam if we strikeout on those 3. We have no choice but to sign somebody and hopefully we make the right choice. there’s also DeAndre McDaniel who reportedly didn’t get drafted because of character concerns?
I just hope it's not Whitner or Elam. The Browns need a coverage safety, not a poor man's Ward.
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First of all, I doubt the Browns make a move for any RT (I'm aware you're not saying you think they will). Second, Yanda played right tackle all of last year and might get paid just as much as any of the left tackles. He's going to break the bank at around $7 million a year. Bushrod wouldn't be bad though.
Well getting Yanda would be a two fold return as we would also be depleting Baltimore's OL. IIRC he was their RG before needing to move to RT, so he also comes with some versatility and he is in his prime.
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thanks for the feedback Deep. I remember Yanda playing OG against us. Maybe I'm remember 2 years ago? Anyway, was just trying to list options that might be more affordable if we delve into those areas. If that's not Yanda, then let's move along.
I don't think there is anyway that the Bills let Posluszny go even with his injuries. I agree Howard is best served at Will but I couldn't find another Mike worth anything and I'd rather have 2 faster guys at the LB spots if we had to just take a body as a stopgap.
good to hear that Avril wouldn't have that 1/3 restriction and if the guys rated above him take all the 'big' money, I would love to get him at a more reasonable rate. I know Bowen/Moss/McDonald would all be backups here. But, we need backups (Jarvis Moss I think could be a situational pass rusher and should be had for the minimum).
safety is another really thin position this year (for us and FA). i think we need to land somebody even if it is another SS. I agree I'd rather have a coverage guy.
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DE: Pierre Allen, Nebraska; Steven Friday, V.T.
DT: Martin Parker, Richmond; Ian Williams, N.D.
LB: Mario Harvey, Marshall; Mark Herzlich, B.C.; Scott Lutrus, UConn; Alex Wujiciak, Maryland
CB: Kendric Burney, UNC; Devon Torrence, Ohio St.
S: DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson; Deunta Williams, UNC; Jeron Johnson, Boise St.; Jerrard Tarrant, G.T.; Will Hill, Florida
WR: Terrence Tolliver, LSU; DeAndre Brown, Southern Miss; Jeff Maehl, Oregon; Ricardo Lockette, Fort Valley St.; Dane Sanzenbacher, Ohio St.
RB: Derrick Locke, Kentucky; Noel Divine, W.V
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If Peyton Manning gets his wish, which is to be an unrestricted free agent, he automatically skyrockets to the top of this list.
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I would give him a 99.99% chance of resigning with the Colts though. Why would he leave? Isn't this more about getting a longterm deal than moving to a different team? Sure, if someone steps up and offers 25% more than the Colts he might move, but to me, he wants other teams bidding to drive up his price to stay with the Colts.
I'm more interested in seeing what happens to Mankins and Jackson. Those are two pieces I'd be interested in (though little chance of getting). The guys that lost out on URFA because of the uncapped year were royaly screwed. It may be a silly point to debate with us "normal people", but they lost a lot of money. I'd be ticked off too.
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the good thing is that if Jackson and Mankins become UFAs, then whichever team ends up with them likely slides another name to us that would've been gone. NE and SD are teams I would suspect to try to fill those slots from within.
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If Peyton Manning gets his wish, which is to be an unrestricted free agent, he automatically skyrockets to the top of this list.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around Manning in any uniform other than the Colts.. I just don't think he wants out and I don't think even more money will get him to move.. JMO however
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I would agree with you 15 years ago....but we saw Michael Jordan in a Wizards jersey, Joe Montana in a Chiefs jersey, Gretzky in a Kings/Blues/Rangers jersey and Griffey Jr. in a Reds jersey...there is no surprises in that regard for me. Players move for money, chance to win a title or just because they want something new.
Seeing Manning as the Arizona Cardinal QB this season wouldn't shock me. It would take some time getting used to, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Naw. He'd go to the Jets to take his feud with Brady to the next level 
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I could see him headed to Arizona ... you know how much fun it would be to add in Fitz? Nice weather ... nice stadium ... schedule could be considered CAKE ... a lot of younger free agents might want to follow him ...
Just an "off the top of the head" guess though ... I don't really think he'd go there ... basically anywhere but Oakland I would assume ...
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Peyton isn't going anywhere. No way ther Colts would let him walk. They have no one ready to take his spot and he is to important to that fan base.
I see zero chance of it happening, but that is IMO.
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I agree... there's no way that LeBron leaves. He's too important to that team and fan base, and they have nobody to take his place... nobody would ever let him walk.
Browns is the Browns
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I agree... there's no way that LeBron leaves. He's too important to that team and fan base, and they have nobody to take his place... nobody would ever let him walk.
are you trying to say that Peyton is going to NE to teamup with Brady? 
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I agree... there's no way that LeBron leaves. He's too important to that team and fan base, and they have nobody to take his place... nobody would ever let him walk.
Funny.
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Kolb, Manning and Brady all go to new England ... Bill B creates an offense utilizing all 3 quarterbacks ...
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...And then they lose the Super Bowl against the Cowboys in humiliating fashion as the entire loss gets blamed on Manning for having one of the worst 4th quarters in NFL postseason history. Sounds like something outta Hollywood. Don't believe it. Too good. (Not sure if anyone on here heard, Shaq is now on NBAtv for something and his first order of business yesterday was to comment on the Heat. He referred to the "Big 3" as the "Big 2". Jeez, I wonder who that was meant for. Something always said those two never got along in Cleveland).  Speaking of Kolb. I would be willing to bet he's an Eagle this season. I wouldn't trust Vick to be healthy for all 16 games and possibly the postseason. He's only played 16 games in his career once (and I'm sure you know, he's a lot older now than he was when he did that). Sure, Kolb could command a high trade value but if Vick gets hurt the Eagles would be toast. And maybe Reid with them. Maybe the Eagles can still trade him and then sign a vet to backfill Kolb's spot but I don't see that happening for some reason (that's too Madden football).
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Arizona is going to be awfully desperate for a QB. They may very well overpay for Kolb.
And Hasselbeck may be willing to be Vick's backup for a year.
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Especially since he knows Vick won't make it through the year without missing some time. So he waits it out, Vick gets hurt, plays well and then plants dog photos in Vick's locker just as he recovers....BAM, starting gig for the rest of the season.  All kidding aside, I think Zona could get Hasselbeck a lot cheaper than the price for Kolb and a new contract. And I'm not sold on Kolb either. He smells of Schaub (a few start wonder that goes on to have a so-so career).
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I agree he trends with Schaub. I just see that as a good thing rather than a bad thing. True, if you want a top5 in the NFL QB, then you likely have to draft in the 1st round unless you completely luck out with a Tom Brady. However, Schaub is arguably in the top10 of QBs in the NFL right now. in no real order: 1. Rodgers 2. Brady 3. Peyton 4. Brees 5. Rivers 6. Roeth 7. Vick 8. Ryan 9. Freeman 10. Schaub Others: Romo, Bradford, Eli, Stafford, Cutler, Cassel, Flacco To back that up, let's look at the last 2 seasons for Schaub (started all 32 games): 2009 29TD 15INT 68%compl 8.2YPA 12.0YPcompl 98.6QB-rating 2010 24TD 12INT 64%compl 7.6YPA 12.0YPcompl 92.0QB-rating Also, the 2 seasons before that he had passer ratings of 87 and 92; so it's not like these last 2 years are pure outliers on his talent. He's a solid, but not great QB. In Arizona right now, that is the difference between a mediocre year and the playoffs (they are in the NFC West). http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SchaMa00.htm
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