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while I really like Colt McCoy there is a guy out there who I think reminds me of the kid in Atlanta a few years back, mired on the bench yet looked good at most every opportunity he had to pay. he start very well for the texans. There is another sleeper i would like to see the Browns get: Drew Stanton of the Lions: nice size, arm, leadership yet they are going with a guy whom I dod not know has an NFL body type to withstand injury. That is my only worry with Colt, is he too small?
If Holmgren is such a guru I would like to see us give this free agent a look.
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So we mire him on our bench instead? Nobody we bring in will likely beat out Wallace.
Here's my dilemma with the third QB. What do you bring in.... physical tools or experience- because really those seem to be the two options. Either an over the hill QB with a high IQ but no arm or a live arm that is project.
I'd be tempted to just run with two QBs. Have QB on the scout team and Cribbs as the emergency QB.
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I say we bring in Sage Rosenfels as our 3rd QB. He makes too much to ride pine at Minny so he'll probably get cut. Also, NOBODY would want to put him in the game, so there's that problem nipped in the bud.
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The only problem I have with the "Size" argument is this: Mike Vick as a running / scrambling quarterback might not get "sacked" as much as others ... but he can get hit and put injury on his body as much as any other QB in the league.
If you buy that argument you gotta say his size is enough to withstand hits in the NFL.
Mike Vick is about 6'0 ... he's between 212 and 215 pounds depending where you look...
Other notable quarterbacks without "size"
Keep in mind - Colt is listed at 6'1 215 to 220 (212 or so when drafted)
Tony Romo 6'2 225
Donovan McNabb 6'2 223 (When drafted ... ballooned up to 240 or so after a decade)
Kevin Kolb 6'3 218
Mark Sanchez 6'2 224
Ryan Fitzpatrick 6'2 225
Andy Dalton 6'2 215
Matt Stafford 6'2 225 (when drafted ... up to 230 or 235 now)
Aaron Rodgers 6'2 220
Christian Ponder 6'2 226
Drew Brees 6'0 210
Max Hall 6'1 205 (Who knows who will start in Arizona ....?)
Bruce Gradkowski 6'1 220 (Might not be the starter... could be Frye or Campbell...?)
Anyways ... that's 14 guys above who might be opening day starters this fall ... and all but Kolb are within a single inch of McCoy. All but McNabb are within 10 pounds of him (personally I feel McNabb is just overweight this late in his career and he was probably playing closer to 230 even 2 years ago with the Eagles...)
So I get that size means something ... but it's not like you CAN'T be successful in today's NFL while being smaller ...
Otherwise you could look at 20 other guys who are "prototype" size and aren't as good as Rogers, Brees, Vick, and etc. ...
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Sage was traded to the Giants last year
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I would bet that we sign an UDFA to be our 3rd string QB. I can't see us signing anyone with any kind of "name" at all.
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Ah that's right. It was just a joke anyways.
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mired on the bench yet looked good at most every opportunity he had to pay.
First off, do you ever read your posts before posting them? They are almost indecipherable.
Anyway, Drew Stanton with 187 career pass attempts has 5 TD's, 9 INT's, 55% completion rate, and a QB rating of 63.1.
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Because Stanton has held up so well. (He had his right shoulder separated last season.)
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I wouldn't be surprised if we did nothing at all at QB or if we signed Matt Hasselbeck to be our #2 QB and relegate Wallace to the #3.
Only the flies on the wall could say for sure what plans they have when that time comes.
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Haha .. no big. I felt bad for the guy. He was brought in to be their starter if Tarvaris couldn't beat him out ... and then he was "benched" then traded because they brought back Brett basically
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If we signed Hasselbeck; Colt McCoy would go back to third string and Wallace would be second. Which is why we won't sign him. There is probably a fit for him in Minnesota, Tennessee, or Cincinnati where he could start for a year or two while Ponder, Locker, or Dalton sits.
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If we signed Hasselbeck; Colt McCoy would go back to third string and Wallace would be second. Which is why we won't sign him. There is probably a fit for him in Minnesota, Tennessee, or Cincinnati where he could start for a year or two while Ponder, Locker, or Dalton sits.
Hasselbeck is at the end of his career, but he could still start for many teams in the league some of witch you noted, but he could also extend his career by mentoring the young Colt McCoy.
Also the % of starting QB's that make it threw a whole season without missing games due to an injury are not so good.
Holmgren is not yet 100% without a doubt sold on McCoy being the franchise QB, because he simply hasn't enough to say one way or the other, so there is always a possibility that we could hedge our bets there and I don't think by no means that would mean that Colt would move behind Wallace and become the 3rd string QB.
When FA comes around we may sign a player whom either the Coach's or H&H
Are not familiar with, but I think that there is a greater chance that it will be players whom they are familiar with and have confidence in.
Mike Holmgren gave Hasselbeck his shot in this league and stood behind him threw think and thin. I'm not saying it will happen (and I think it would be great if we did) I'm thinking that there is a possibility there.
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His record isn't all that impressive really. 1158 yards passing, 9 ints vs 5 TD's. 55.6 completion percentage... 4 fumbles, 2 of which were lost. he did run for 166 yards and got 2 TD's rushing. the disapppointing thing is, he's only played in 9 games.. I just don't see why he'd be someone that is worth looking at. Also, was he cut? Cause if he wasn't, he's still with the lions and isn't a FA.. I don't think so anyway.. And maybe it's because you weren't very clear, but I don't think he was ever with the Texans.. Here is the link I got my info from http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster/Drew-Stanton/737079fd-8fd5-4aa1-91e3-d18bfa1d4418Like I said, no mention of the Texans at all.....
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He was comparing Stanton to Matt Schaub when he was talking about Atlanta and Houston.
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You don't want Shawn Rogers at QB???
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He was comparing Stanton to Matt Schaub when he was talking about Atlanta and Houston.
Ahh, I see. It was a little hard to tell but thanks..
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His record isn't all that impressive really. 1158 yards passing, 9 ints vs 5 TD's. 55.6 completion percentage... 4 fumbles, 2 of which were lost.
he did run for 166 yards and got 2 TD's rushing.
the disapppointing thing is, he's only played in 9 games..
I just don't see why he'd be someone that is worth looking at.
Also, was he cut? Cause if he wasn't, he's still with the lions and isn't a FA.. I don't think so anyway..
And maybe it's because you weren't very clear, but I don't think he was ever with the Texans..
Here is the link I got my info from
http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster/Drew-Stanton/737079fd-8fd5-4aa1-91e3-d18bfa1d4418
Like I said, no mention of the Texans at all.....
No, we all know Drew Stanton was not with the texans. I was making a comparison to matt Schaub and his name could not not come to my memory. Schaub was a little used bench warmer in Atlanta yet i had seen enough to have a good feeling about him.
I think the Stanton kid has played well in the short stints in detroit. You can blather stats yet the kid has no Oline and conducts himself with confidence and good pocket presence. Rosenfels is sure bet mediocrity. jake you hold your breath as he has zip confidence left. I like Colt yet I worry he does not have an NFL frame to withstand the blows. Stanton may a darkhorse yet I only briefly read he was a free agent i am not sure if he is restricted or not.
Again, I like Colt, yet with a Stanton developing as well if Colt gets hurt, sure mediocrity Seneca Wallace get the jippers as well and proved pretty bad in the second half of games.
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I would bet that we sign an UDFA to be our 3rd string QB. I can't see us signing anyone with any kind of "name" at all.
I agree.
I would look at Taylor Potts, Pat Devlin, maybe even Scott Tolzien.
If we want to get really crazy project to try to stash on the PS: Josh Portis - Cal (PA) From a DII school, but has all the physical tools, and that all will probably amount to nothing, but put him on the PS and see what happens.
All speculation, and probably wrong at that.
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Hey, Gradkowski and McCown are out unrestricted . . .
Charlie Frye has all the intangibles though.
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If we're ganna sign a FA QB... ...Might as well go get Manning... 
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Again, I like Colt, yet with a Stanton developing as well if Colt gets hurt
Stanton has already had a major injury in the NFL. How do you know he can hold up? And to answer your question (which you could have answered yourself, because, you know, you are on the internet) Stanton has only accrued three years of service time, meaning he would be a restricted free agent.
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Ok,, I'll continue to blather stats on this kid and you can continue to blather about everything else then... how's that for a compromise... 
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...Might as well go get Manning...
if we did, it would be cooper
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Unfortunately he lacked all of the tangibles ........  
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Unfortunately he lacked all of the tangibles ........
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