DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns sign Antwan Peek

Here's the positives and negatives about Peek before he was drafted:

ANALYSIS
Positives: Well-proportioned athlete with superb upper-body tone … Has excellent initial quickness and playing speed coming off the edge … Possesses cat-like moves, exceptional balance and coordination and fluid change-of-direction agility to consistently defeat blockers coming off the snap … Uses his overall power effectively when shedding, keeping his hands active to protect blockers from his legs … Delivers a strong shock and jolt with his arms upon contact … Fine perimeter chaser, showing the acceleration ability to catch ball carriers down the sidelines … Displays the hip snap needed to sharply turn out of his backpedal … Sinks his hips and stays flat-footed bursting through the pile, keeping his motor running in pursuit of the quarterback on the blitz … Can punch and extend to control the tight ends in the short area … Good at avoiding and clearing out blocks to get to the ball … Flashes hands quickly and has a few inside moves when shooting the gaps … Has above-average arm-under and spin moves … Shows the proper knee bend needed to close quickly … Special teams standout whose leaping ability allows him to get to several kicks.
Negatives: Lacks the size and bulk to be a down lineman at the pro level, as he has trouble shedding against larger blockers, dictating a move to linebacker … Tough, but not stout at the point of attack … Needs to show a better feel for zone pass defense … Hard tackler, but needs body control upon arrival, as he does tend to overpursue … Will get caught "in the wash" some when trying to contain the inside run … Does not do a good job of reading plays, relying more on instinct.

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Seems like McGinest could help him out with some of the negative things if they're still a problem.

Sounds like his positives really outweigh his negatives. The biggest negative seemed to be with him playing in the 4-3 as a DE, which isn't going to be in Cleveland. Our LBers seem to have gotten to be the strongest point of our team.

Well, he has apparently allready made the move to OLB in 3-4, but now his ex team is going to 4-3. Sounds OK, I know our staff loves it's LBs, so do I. My only reservation is that we have so many of these DEs that have moved to OLB, I really didn't want to focus on that, but I guess you get what's available. I also really wanted some REAL 3-4 ends and a tackle. I want to see a D-line that gets penetration, not just eats blockers. I would like to see what leon could do at OLB with a slob DE, but I guess it just is what it is. Can't ever hurt to increase talent where ever you increase it.

Well, he could be fun. Might this mean (GASPS!) that we might be blitzing enough to prove competetive this year? This silly non-pressure 3-4 business is worthless. Like the signing! Keep it up, Doctor Phil!
Use the Draft, Phil! And may the Elf be with you!

Are we able to get something decent for CT? Started and played regularly due to injury at the end of season . . . .
Use the Draft, Phil! And may the Elf be with you!

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Sounds like a good signing. Savage sort of has a knack for assessing and finding hidden talent,

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This is one of those comments that baffle me. If I said that Savage hasn't done a good job of bringing in talent, people would jump all over it......yet, no one even questions this comment.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but what hidden talent has he brought in here to make you say that?

Fisk-------He was a dud and is now gone.

Coleman-------He was bad and will probably be gone.

Holly--------Good find.

Stewart-------------He's not doing squat. Might not even be on the team next year.

Late round picks------------Are any of them producing?

Again, I'm not picking on you and perhaps your comment is just wishful thinking, but I don't see all the "hidden talent" that he's found. It seems to me that he's overpaid for some players, such as Baxter, Shaffer, Andruzzi, McGinnest, etc and the lower paid guys really haven't done much.

Am I wrong?

You be right on the money there Vers !

I agree with you, I was trying to find all the hidden talent Savage has brought in the draft and free agency. Here is what I could think of off the top of my head, and some are definitely reaches:

Derek Anderson- good job snagging him from Baltimore, solid backup
Jason Wright- looked pretty good
Josh Cribbs- we all know what he can do
Leon Williams- still developing, and don't really know if he was "hidden"
Daven Holly- solid, good nickel CB
Justin Hamilton- showed promise as a safety, hopefully he continues to develop

Any others who could possibly be labeled as "hidden talents"?

Antonio Perkins is a guy who's talent is hidden.

It being Sunday,I thought everyone should get a break.Apparently you don't.
I,like many who are claiming this as a great pick-up,wouldn't know Antawn Peek from Pikes Peak.235 is way too lite to be an effective olb.If he can rush the passer,than he becomes valuable in a nickel situation,but he's not going to be an evrydown player.
To those questioning McMillian.Keep your shirts on.It takes time to transition from college DE to NFL linebacker.When he makes it,that will be the hidden gem.But,then Pittsburg and Balt.have been discovering these types of players for years.It was one of the biggest advantages of running a 3-4,there wasn't much competion for the tweeners.

Peek, IMO, was brought in for one reason, rush the passer. The knocks on him are that he's questionable dropping in coverage, gets tangled up in run situations, sometimes loses the ball and isn't all that bright. So what's left? Lining up opposite Kam and going after the QB like a bat outta hell. To that end, good signing, any improvements he may make with his shortcomings under the tutelage of Willie McG are bonuses. (If Willie is still here in '07, that is.)

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Peek, IMO, was brought in for one reason, rush the passer

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and thats one area savage said he wanted to improve, so I would have to say that your assement cant be that far off.

Thompson can rush the passer?

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It being Sunday,I thought everyone should get a break.Apparently you don't.

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Dang man..........I tried saying it as nicely as I could. I was being so sweet, I almost made myself gag.

Okay Vers,

I guess I should have bold typed 'SORT OF' in the remark I made about Savage's talent finding ability because as I was typing it, I realized that for every good move he has made, there have been many questionable moves. But then I realized two things: 1) He had jack squat to start with and had to fill many holes with whatever was left on the scrapheap when he got here (Coleman, to name one). 2) The moves he has made have been much better than those of his predecessors relatively speaking. I guess that's not saying much but then again, i used the words 'sort of'. So call me a homer or what have you, but in my orange and brown-eyed estimation, he's done a pretty decent job.

Since the Texas drafted him in the third round out of Cincinnati in 2003, Peek has experienced problems keeping his weight up. He began last season at 260 pounds and finished at 238 pounds,

I was posting on memory,238 isn't but a Three Forks sized t-bone away.
It would seem we all the same thoughts on him.Good defenses require specialists,if he can put pressure on QB's he'll be a good signing.

It seems that a lot of people want to test out Leon Williams at OLB. He's 238 and it seems that he has no problem penetrating.

Williams is not an OLB. Peek however is a great fit as a backup/replacement for Willie. This signing in my mind doesn't really change our needs but it does address depth and help special teams out. If there is a stud OLB in the draft we still need to take a look at them.

FA isn't a good way to address depth. It costs too much.

You sign players you expect to start.

Draft for depth after round 3.

FA is a great way to address depth if you don't go crazy trying to get a player. i can't imagine he cost us to much. In fact free agency is probably a better way to address depth because the players have been around for a while and you know what you are getting for the most part. Players you draft either are not ready to play or can step in right away and start. Once we have a few nice drafts we will be less and less active in FA and will pick and choose players that fit our scheme starter or not.

how much did we sign him for anyways?

No idea what we paid.


Probably more than depth money.

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Williams is not an OLB.

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He may not have played OLB, but why not try him there?

Just to give people an idea on weight:


James Harrison (OLB) 242 lbs.
Arnold Harrison (OLB) 241 lbs.
Manny Lawson (OLB) 240 lbs.
Brandon Moore (OLB) 242 lbs.

Those are just guys off the top of my head. Not everyone has to be 268 like McGinest.

Peek's a player with ALOT of upside and PO for OLB here...

I like this signing and would go so far as to say it's BETTER than what we looked at in 2006 with Kalimba Edwards...

This guy is much like Dummerville...

I like the signing also..and there's nothing that says the kid can't improve witht he right coaching..it fills a need behind WM since David McMillian hasn't done anything and Thompson still is not a good fit.

Can he play offensive line? lol i wish. Im already happy with our Linebackers, i think some of our linebackers dont get a chance they deserve which adds so much more depth. I love having depth unlike our line or corners lol. Can't complain about this signing!

I just wanted to say that Antwan is a really nice guy. I went to college with him and he is really level headed. Good signing.

Welcome to the board Antwan

I don't know much about the guy, but from what I have read on here he seems like a threat rushing the QB. Hopefully he thrives on the other side of Wimbley to form some kind of feared tandem.

I also always welcome new blood when it is needed, so welcome aboard Antwan, bring the heat!

I have been busy so havent had a chance to comment to much on any of these moves but a general reply on this one.

Peek has natural talent but he is very undersized. The Texans asked him to bulk up to play DE so he lost probaly 30 lbs. He looked a heck of a lot more like a safety than an a linebacker or DE.

The positive is that our DC would have the scoop on the kid and know what he is capable of and the kid can go from a dead stop to full sprint in a blink of an eye. How it translates we will have to wait and see.

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Peek's a player with ALOT of upside and PO for OLB here...

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LOL.......what you are really saying is he hasn't done squat yet. I don't know enough about this guy to evaluate him, but I think too many of you are thinking he will be good because Savage signed him. I still remember how excited you all were over the Matt Stewart signing.

What's really crazy is that Stewart had a way better history than Peeks. I ain't holding my breath on this signing.