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I believe that they are already signed. Yep, Google is a wonderful thing.  lol http://tinyurl.com/3kg6o3t(Blame DC for the smartass link) 
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Yeah, both signed 4 year deals. Sheard for $5.09mil and Little for $3.32mil. Link
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As of this moment, they are the only two draft picks undercontract.. This was reported yesterday... There is an article about it somewhere on here..
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I use that all the time after seeing DC post it on here awhile back
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They did sign Sheard and Little.
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Well i am a big fan of google, just figured it would be easier to assk here, lol. I am big on little, kids gonna be good i think! My favorite pick this year by far. 
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Browns agree to terms with fifth-rounder Buster Skrine Beacon Journal sports Published: July 29, 2011 - 12:04 PM The Browns and rookie cornerback Buster Skrine have agreed to terms of a four-year deal, a league source told the Beacon Journal this morning. The Browns selected Skrine in the fifth round (137th overall) of this year’s draft. web pageBrowns agree to four-year deal with fifth-round pick Buster Skrine by Nate Ulrich on July 29, 2011 in Buster Skrine,Cleveland Browns,NFL The Browns and rookie cornerback Buster Skrine have agreed to terms of a four-year deal, a league source told the Beacon Journal this morning. The Browns selected Skrine in the fifth round (137th overall) of this year's draft. In his four-year collegiate career at Tennessee-Chattanooga, Skrine compiled 155 tackles, 21 pass breakups and five interceptions. Last season, he had 39 tackles, eight pass breakups and one interception. The 5-foot-9, 186-pound Skrine also established a reputation as a capable kickoff returner. He had 40 career kickoff returns for 891 yards (22.28 average). When he was a junior, Skrine posted a school-record time of 4.22 seconds in the 40-yard dash on Tennessee-Chattanooga's campus. The Browns were obviously attracted to his speed. "Buster's got a number of things: He's very, very athletic, he's a tough guy and he can run," Browns defensive coordinator Dick Jauron said. "You just can't teach speed. He can really run."
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Friend of mine is a HUGE fan of Buster Skrine. I admit, I don't know a ton about him, but he's a big fan.
Hopefully he'll be a nice surprise for us.
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I have to assume that they are professionals and were doing their jobs to the best of their abilities. But regardless of route or scheme, shouldn't their god given ability give them the opportunity to get open and make a play?
I think I see our disconnect.. you are assuming that they can just use thier athletic abilities to make plays and I guess that's true to an extent, but still, if the ball isn't where it's supposed to be,, what is it you expect them to do.
Jerry Rice, arguably one of, if not the best receiver to play the game right? What if Joe Montana was more like Derek Anderson? Would Rice then be a bad receiver?
OK, but in that particular instance, jerry rice was still an incredible receiver and from 2001 to 2003 made Rich Gannon look like Joe Montana. And Gannon really was a journeyman QB with the exception of his years with Oakland (when Rice was there)
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Skrine can fly, wonder if he has the ability to return punts? I will google it! lol
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I really don't see us signing any WR's. We already have four guys who it seems the front office is comfortable with (Massaquoi, Robiske, Cribbs, and Little) and a few others who are trying for a spot on the 53-man (Mitchell, Haggerty, Norwood). I don't think there is room for anyone else.
We have something like 13 or 14 WRs right now. (with UDFA) There's a limit to ho
w many guys you can bring into camp at any one position. The front office seems to like Massaquoi, Robiske, Mitchell, and Little. They have also had nice things to say about Norwood, and even sought out his father (Brian Norwood, DC at Baylor) for a reference regarding Taylor. He's got the quicks, route running ability, and hands to be an effective slot type guy.
Ther really isn't room for much more at WR ..... unless it's a surefire starter "#1" guy. WE have plenty of #2s and guys with potential.
I agree,
The only other way I could see us bringing in a veteran WR was if we traded one of our current group. I don't think that anything is in the works as far as trades go.
And in general, speaking about those who are ready to tar and feather the FO for letting Eric Wright get away, ...let's not forget we drafted Buster Skrine and they seem to think the youngster can step in and play in our sub packages.
He will have his bumps (not unlike Haden and TJ last season) no doubt, but the kid has world class speed and that can make up for mental mistakes.
Also he is not afraid to mix it up in run support.
He may be on the short side of the ruler, but he's not a little dude, so imo we already have an 'upgrade' over Wright in that respect.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over losing Wright.
Edit: as I was writing this I just seen a post ahead that we signed Buster. Only it's says 4 years and I thought that only 1st rounder's get a 4 year deal?
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LOL OK,, which came first, the chicken or the egg..
Point is, a great receiver can make an average QB look decent and a Great QB can make an average receiver look decent..
The reverse is also true,,, a bad QB can make a decent receiver look horrible..
Which was it here?
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LOL OK,, which came first, the chicken or the egg..
Point is, a great receiver can make an average QB look decent and a Great QB can make an average receiver look decent..
The reverse is also true,,, a bad QB can make a decent receiver look horrible..
Which was it here?
True....its same on each end. In my eyes, everyone was impacted by Daboll's god awful playcalling. Right now, Robiskie is improving and has hopefully turned the corner. Little has a load of potential. Massa I think is as good as he's going to get- but good enough to be a sub or in 3/4 WR packages. Everyone else is really a wing and a prayer.
McCoy right now as one reliable downfield target and thats Watson. I say downfield as Hillis is a good pass catcher as well. I'd really like to see another guy emerge as someone that McCoy can go to consistently. Right now, I don;t see it here.
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Still out there. Thoughts? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/top-80-free-agents/D-Line (you experts need to fill me in on the 3-4, 4-3 fits . . .)Cullen Jenkins, Packers DL: A versatile lineman that can disrupt on all three downs. Ray Edwards, Vikings DE: How will he fare without Jared Allen and the Williams Wall attracting attention? May get overpaid. Aubrayo Franklin, 49ers DT: A quick solution for teams needing a run stopper. Perhaps a late career Pat Williams. Brandon Mebane, Seahawks DT: Plenty of upside for this run stopper. A boom or bust pick. GuardJustin Blalock, Falcons G: Young starting guards tend to get overpaid in free agency. Harvey Dahl, Falcons G: If you want to inject your line with a little nastiness, Dahl is your guy. LB. (Ditto on the 3-4, 4-3 thing. Also, FYI, they have Roth 16th overall, first LB on the list . . .]Barett Ruud, Bucs LB: Perhaps he’s not a huge playmaker, but you’ll get leadership and production from Ruud. Stephen Tulloch, Titans LB: Can do a lot of things as a starting linebacker. WRSteve Smith, Giants WR: Like Kiwanuka, he’d be far higher (top 10) if not for any injury. A worthwhile risk because he should be great in 2012 and beyond. James Jones, Packers WR Malcom Floyd, Chargers WR Mike Sims-Walker, Jaguars WR
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I got curious myself and I can find two teams in the running that could be in the argument for worst/unproven WR corps.... St, Louis and Oakland.
It depends on what you use to determine worst.
If you want to go by receptions - Oakland had 110, SF and 121, then Cleveland and Carolina at 129, with Tenn right behind at 131. League average was 179.
If you want to go by yards - Cleveland is worst at 1438 with Oakland 2nd worst at 1638. Leave average was 2371.
Cleveland was lowest in Yd/G at 97.7 with next being SF at 112.9, League average was 183.8.
TDs, 3 way tie at 6 with Oak and Car with 3 others under 10 (Min, SF, Was). League Average 15.
The stats are similar the rest of the way - no question statistically who the lowest 4 or 5 teams were - Cle, Oak, SF, CAR, Min. STL was consistently in the middle of the pack. Does that mean, that either the WR are bad or QB was bad.
Going by QB rating (yeah, I know it sucks) - Cleveland didn't have a QB that qualified, Oakland had #18, SF had #21, CAR had #31, Min had #29. That says all teams had below average QB play.
Adding drops to the equation is hard because limited data is available - of the teams mentioned, of the "top" 25 players with drops - Cleveland had nobody on the list. Carolina had 2, STL had 2, SF had 1. Similarly, in the list top 15 players drop percentages (% catchable balls dropped) Carolina and SF had 1 player each, nobody else in the list above had one.
This tells me we had one of the worst last year - you can argue last, you can argue not last. Greg Little will theoretically improve the team. MoMass and Robo should do better in a WCO since Colt is more of a WCO QB, and Seneca has played his whole career in WCO (before Cleveland). Lets judge after the season how bad we are.
Per Williams, no_logo said something to me in a post and made me look his info up. Dude isn't a WCO WR. You want to bring in a guy to help out - find a precise route runner with good hands and good YAC. That isn't Williams.
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This sucks...5years/30mil seams "reasonable" too in this new CBA market for a prime position player in his prime years...guess our SDE is Jayme Mitchell, if he re-signs
Not seeing a plan right now or we're missing our targets...not good either way
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Thing I got from this: Pontbriand is making more than Alex Mack! Haha.
maybe he should be...we've needed the kicking and punting game for years.
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I'd like to see the Browns target
Dawan Landry, Donte Whitner (he knows the D, would be a good stop gap), James Jones, Joe Addai (to give him time to recover and get healthy while not taking a pounding, and he can challenge Hardesty and Jackson...between those 4, we could have a lot of talent in the backfield), Tyson Clabo (good RT), Trai Essex (division rival for good depth), and Billy Yates (we need the kid back, he was a great RG for us last year before injury).
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Tyson Clabo re-signed with the Falcons.
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Guys I'm still interested in ...
Stephen Tulloch, LB, Titans - Best LB available, IMO
Vernon Gholston, DE, Jets - Could benefit in 4-3 defense
Legedu Naanee, WR, Chargers - Could be a decent pickup for cheap
Nnamdi Amsomugha, CB, Raiders - Not possible, but hard to not be interested in him
Atari Bigby, S, Packers - Again, could come cheap due to missing most of the 2010 season
Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Giants - Probably going to be pricey, but best DE left?
Carlos Rodgers, CB, Redskins - Best CB besides Nnamdi?
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I think our plan is to resign our own to new contracts. <(Speculation)
We still have money to spend.
I would like to see us get JT and Hillis into new long term deals before this season starts and possibly Rubin.
There isn't the urgency to accomplish this as there is in signing FA's.
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"I knew if Cleveland didn't get an answer from him last night, he was walking. The Browns seem to be like that girl you use to make the girl you really want mad. Edwards and Jonathan Joseph both used the Browns' offer to drive up the price from other teams who were willing to pay out more. The Browns did all they could to get Edwards, contrary to what many of you want to believe, but Heckert isn't going to overpay for guys to come to Cleveland. If he doesn't want to be there, to hell with him. The Browns are going to get better, but it's going to be through the draft and the "unknown" FAs (i.e. Brandon Jackson, Usama Young). Hang in the Browns fans, our time is coming. "
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Not interested in Barnett?
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Gotcha. I don't know much about him other than I recognize the name. And, for many on here, just recognizing the name is enough to want to break the bank to bring him (whoever it is) in.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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He resigned with the Giants
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He resigned with the Giants
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Well, we did go out and draft Owne Marceic (sp) and Jordan..Those are two other targets.. and you can't forget Evan Moore either. Just gotta find a way to get him more involved. So there are options beyond Little, MoMass and Robo on this team. But given the conversation, do you now understand where I was coming from when I told AkronJoe that we do NOT have the worst receivers in the NFL? To ba accurate, someone just a few posts down from yours spelled it out even better.. To determine if ours are the worst from a statistical standpoint, you have to decide which criteria you want to use.. AkronJoe didn't.. He just made a blanket statement that upon further examation, was not accurate. He just likes to bash the FO for anything and everything. there you have it. 
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I don't disagree but a great QB can do a lot more to make an average WR look great than the reverse...
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I don't disagree but a great QB can do a lot more to make an average WR look great than the reverse...
we can debate that until pigs fly and you'll get guys on both sides of it.. In the end, One can't really function at thier peak without the other.
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See, I don't buy this statement at all.
The Browns wanted him, they offered a respectable contract and pull the "we don't need you anyway" when they walk chasing the last nickel. Close the deal if you want them. The price of free agents will only go up next year....and the follow year.
If we're building through the draft then why is Heckert even talking with these high-priced free agents? Please, it's not to low-ball them and see if we can get a great deal...that would only make future free agents NEVER want to come here. Heckert wanted them because we need them.
And if we need them, again, close the deal. But then to follow up the missed opportunity with, "meh, we're building through the draft anyway" seems like sour grapes.
I'm not sure I'm following what their plan is.
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None of those guys are receivers. They catch the ball, yes, but this team lacks legit wide receivers. The wide receivers corps of the Browns (not "guys of any position who might catch the ball on a given play") is, statistically, one of the worst in the NFL. 8 receivers in the NFL had better numbers than our top three receivers (by yardage) combined, and one of those receivers is no longer on the team.
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Reports I've seen is that the Browns offered him more money than Atl. He just didn't want to play here.
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