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Looking at it in an even simpler way .... the new rule is that you can have 45 active on gameday .... or 46 if the 46th guy is your 3rd QB.

As I understand it. no longer does the insertion of the 3rd QB into a game disqualify QBs 1 and 2 from returning.

I suppose that a team could cheat ..... like us using Cribbs as the 3rd QB ... but I would suppose that there is a rule that the 3rd QB can only take snaps at QB, or something similar.

Some good stuff about Little and Benard..... some cool stuff about some other guys we'll never hear from again .... but you can't help but hope get a chance .......... but the bit about Taylor is very worrisome.

You can teach almost everything except hustle.

http://blogs.cantonrep.com/freshbrownies.../#comment-25340

‘C’mon … hustle!’ … Is First-Round Phil ready for this?

Aug 18th, 2011 @ 9:11 am by Steve Doerschuk
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• Marcus Benard had been a little out of shape, Pat Shurmur had said, but he is coming around.

From watching pass-rush drills, he is a real load in terms of charging hard off the snap, and, at the moment he gets the offensive tackle slightly off balance, ducking his head at an almost impossible low angle and somehow running at full spend while doing a body bend around the tackle’s left shoulder.

• Benard just got here, it seems, but he is older than half the guys on the current starting defense. That includes the right defensive end he will try to beat out — and good luck with that, since Jabaal Sheard in a Round 2 pick with whom the coaches will be very patient.
Old man Benard, who led the Browns with 7.5 sacks in 2010, turned 26 last month. He was a Mangini pick-up, an undrafted rookie, in 2009.

• During a break late in one practice, Randy Lerner, his son Max, and a couple of media guys were the only people watching behind the gallery ropes. Linebacker Scott Fujita slipped away and began chatting with the owner. They had a fairly long — and clearly amiable — talk.
It was a sign of post-lockout harmony, maybe.

• There isn’t no authorized live tackling in camp, but these pass-rush drills are plenty live. The offensive linemen block as hard as they would in a game. The young defensive linemen rush as if they were trying to get hired into a $300,000-a-year job.

• You start to appreciate that Tom Heckert has collected bunches of kids who really do have some juice in their arsenal, even if they are card-carrying members of Future Grocery Baggers of America.

Andre Carroll, a 22-year-old undrafted defensive tackle out of Delaware State, has almost no chance to make anything more than the practice squad.

Yet, watching him in pass-rush drills, you can see the spit and vinegar in him.

• Two quick scenes:

Position coach Dwaine Board hunches over as Carroll lines up against offensive lineman Brandon Braxton.

“HUT!” yells Board, sending Carroll ahead like a shot. The 305-pound Braxton, who played at Oklahoma and has a sliver of NFL experience, jams his long arms into the chest of the 301-pound Carroll. Carroll drives his legs and flails his arms, sloppily and simultaneously trying to bull rush and gain an edge around either of Braxton’s shoulders.

Carroll gets nowhere. Braxton walks away and gets a knowing fist bump from an older offensive lineman.

Carroll is right back at it moments later, this time against former Tennessee Volunteer Jarrod Shaw, a 316-pound undrafted rookie.

No flailing this time. Carroll uses a spin move — where did that come from? — to get around Shaw. Carroll arrives at young coach pretending to be the quarterback and gives him a little shove.

O-Line coach George Warhop uses his hands to demonstrate to Shaw how he could have avoided getting beat.

CAMP SCENES
• The pass-rush drill ends. A horn blows. The defenders now must quickly get to an 11-on-11 session on a different practice field.
Somebody yells at the rookie, “C’mon, Phil, hustle. The rookie seems not to hear. He isn’t walking, but he isn’t jogging very fast.

He is the last man to arrive, getting to a huddle with the “ones” just as the 10 other guys, already in place, are doing the group clap before spreading out into their positions, preparing to face Colt McCoy and his gang on a play.
Is first-round pick Phil Taylor ready for this?

• In 7-on-7s, rookie Greg Little runs a fairly long corner route and finds himself in man coverage against veteran Sheldon Brown. Colt McCoy throws before Little is looking. Little turns his head and sees the high-arc pass headed his way. He pushes give Brown almost imperceptibly — although the zebras seem to have called that little push against the Browns often enough — gains separation and catches the ball in stride, near the left pylon.

• It’s almost as if the defense should quadruple cover 6-foot-5 Chris Matthews when he is on the field with No. 3 QB Jarret Brown. You almost know that’s where Brown is going there.
There’s Brown in a 7-on-7. There’s Matthews, split wide right. There’s Matthews on a route to the right sideline. There’s Brown’s jump-ball throw against 27-year-old cornerback Ramzee Robinson. There’s a catch.

• Back at the pass-rush station, Ahtyba Rubin schools rookie Jason Pinkston with an inside-outside move.

Yeah, I didn't like that part about Taylor, but I won't get too worried yet. If he's slacking off, I think we have enough vets on the squad to set him straight.

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From watching pass-rush drills, he is a real load in terms of charging hard off the snap, and, at the moment he gets the offensive tackle slightly off balance, ducking his head at an almost impossible low angle and somehow running at full spend while doing a body bend around the tackle’s left shoulder.

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AKA the Wimbley move??

So...are you saying that the 3rd QB does not count as one of the final 53?

I've not heard that. I've only heard about the 3rd QB not counting as "active" on gameday - which is helpful but very different than being counted as one of the 53.

Nice to hear that Mathews is starting to make some plays. good one to stash on the PS while he receives NFL coaching.

Sheard doesn't have the quicks to be a RDE. Mitchell doesn't have the instincts to be a LDE. He couldn't sniff out the run with a pack of bloodhounds. Not sure who the brainchild is of this little experiment but I just don't see it.

Sheard on the left, Benard from the right and Mitchell from the bench sounds like a winner.

The 3rd QB counts on the 53 man roster .... but not on the gameday active roster.

It is honest.

However .... Kurt Warner was once a grocery bagger ...... so you just neven can tell.


I always thought that it would be humorous if someone who wasn't really a football fan wound up at a Super Bowl party .... and saw Warner on TV and said "Hey! That guy looks just like the guy used to bag groceries down at the store!".

so, this is a published author for a fairly well known newspaper?

"There isn’t no authorized tackling"

really. there is not no authorized tackling? that does not make no sense

THANK YOU!!!


...and what about the sentence that begins: "From watching pass-rush drills, he is a real load..."

irritating.

This was one of the most awkward reads I've experienced in many, many months.

agreed. i found more mistakes than the one i posted, but that one is grammar 101! fire him and hire me my english degree has done jack squat so far


but i'll take any articles i can get about this year's browns. i am pumped!

I'm glad someone else caught the errors. As an English teacher, I found this article an awful read.

Not to derail the english lesson...

Jordan Norwood claims slot receiver role in Cleveland
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 19, 2011, 11:25 AM EDT

AP
It’s that time of training camp when some position battles start to get settled.

In Cleveland, upstart second year receiver Jordan Norwood has locked down the team’s slot receiver job, according to Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.

The starting wideouts on the outside will be some combination of Mohammed Massaquoi, rookie Greg Little, and Brian Robiskie. Massaquoi looked like the safest bet, but he hasn’t been healthy at all.

We thought Eric Mangini was building a tough team in Cleveland last year. Now they have completely different schemes on both sides of the ball.

Maybe it will work. Maybe it will set the franchise back a bit. There is an opportunity for the Browns to surprise this year because they play the NFC West out of conference.

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If Colt plays well this season, our our offense is IN place.. The only thing I would like to see out of the players is a glowing feel of confidence.

Norwood is going to be a perfect WCO slot receiver. I'm more excited about watching this guy than any other guy on offense this year honestly. I think he has the chance to be a big part of this offense and very nice surprise. He reminds me a little of Webster Slaughter. I would not be shocked at all if, at the end of the year, our top 4 receivers in terms of catches and yards are (in no particular order): Moore, Watson, Norwood and Hillis.

I called that he'd be starting by Week 3...guess I was wrong, he grabbed the role in week 2 of camp!