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Pryor highlights three possible players in supplemental draft By Rob Rang
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Aug. 8, 2011
The 2011 NFL supplemental draft will be held on Aug. 17, NFLDraftScout.com has learned.
Typically the supplemental draft is held a few weeks before the start of training camps and long after clubs have had an opportunity to sign draft picks and undrafted free agents. The lockout delayed scheduling this year's draft.
NFL teams were notified of this year's tentative supplemental draft date in an email. They were not notified of any players eligible and the draft's official order wasn't defined.
Unlike the televised April draft, the supplemental draft is carried out via email. The teams, slotted into three groups based on their winning percentage the previous season, contact the league with a list of the players they'd draft and the round in which they'd take them.
As such, while the Carolina Panthers owned the first pick of the 2011 draft, they are not guaranteed to have the first pick in this draft.
Any team that uses a supplemental draft pick would then lose the corresponding selection in the NFL Draft the following April.
No players have been deemed officially eligible. However, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Georgia running back Caleb King are expected to be included.
Pryor signed with Ohio State graded by many as the top prep prospect in the country. With a 31-4 career record, including wins in the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl, and 8,341 combined passing and rushing yardage (along with 74 touchdowns), Pryor's natural talent is unquestioned.
His reputation as a me-first player, his role in the scandal that eventually forced head coach Jim Tressel to resign and concerns about whether he fits as a quarterback in a pro-style offense might push the 6-foot-5, 240-pound Pryor into the late rounds. While Pryor completed nearly 61 percent of his passes and had a touchdown-to-interception ratio of 56-26, scouts question whether he is an accurate enough passer to play the position in the NFL.
Pryor's most intriguing attribute is his ability to scramble out of the pocket. Bigger than some defensive linemen and faster than some defensive backs, Pryor was at times an unstoppable runner at the collegiate level. That athleticism has led some scouts to peg Pryor as a possible convert to tight end or receiver in the NFL. The former Buckeye has indicated he'd rather remain at quarterback, and questions abound as to whether he has the work ethic to learn a new position.
Though Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, boldly characterized his client as a possible first-round pick, consensus throughout the league has been that the quarterback might be waiting until the middle rounds or later to get drafted. Some teams, in fact, don't view him as a draft-worthy prospect.
Though not on a level with Pryor, King was a highly touted prep player who signed with Georgia. Graded as the No. 3 running back prospect in the country by some recruiting services, King was characterized as the next Herschel Walker.
Instead, the 5-foot-11, 219-pounder saw his game appearances shrink from 11 games as a redshirt freshman in 2008 to 10 in 2009 and eight in 2010. In 18 games, including 10 starts, King accumulated 1,024 rushing yards and nine touchdowns.
While his career totals are less than dazzling, King does have legitimate NFL-caliber talent. He has good burst to and through the hole and the lateral agility to elude defenders. He uses his size well as a pass blocker, showing toughness and understanding when in this role. However, he does not possess the type of top-end speed to be anything more than an interior specialist. King struggles to get to the edge and is too often caught from behind.
Any chance at boosting his stock in his senior season ended when King was found academically ineligible earlier this month. Unfortunately, this isn't the only off-field problem teams will likely investigate. King was not allowed to participate in Georgia's stunning Liberty Bowl loss to Central Florida last year after skipping five academic meetings. He was suspended for two regular-season games earlier in the year for failing to appear in court to deal with a speeding ticket.
A third player rumored to be considering making the jump is North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo.
McAdoo was among the 14 Tar Heels players suspended by the NCAA for, among other things, accepting inappropriate benefits from agents last year. He and his former teammates Robert Quinn, Marvin Austin, Greg Little (and three others) were suspended for the entire 2010 season. Unlike Quinn, Austin and Little -- who accepted thousands of dollars in gifts and were each drafted into the NFL this past April -- McAdoo was found to have accepted only $110 in inappropriate benefits and had hoped to return to North Carolina. However, because McAdoo was also found guilty of academic fraud as the NCAA's investigation into the program dug deeper, it was determined that he shouldn't be allowed to return to Chapel Hill to compete athletically.
McAdoo is suing UNC and the NCAA to regain his eligibility. On July 13, Durham Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson denied McAdoo's request for a preliminary injunction. The injunction would have allowed McAdoo to return to the field immediately.
McAdoo's lawyers are continuing the legal fight to get him back on the field for the Tar Heels, but should a stunning reversal not come from the NCAA, the university's hands are tied, which could push McAdoo into the draft.
At 6-6 and 248 pounds, McAdoo has the length and athleticism to pique the interest of 4-3 and 3-4 teams alike. The primary backup to Quinn, McAdoo had shown flashes throughout of his career. While he hadn't start a game in his first two seasons with the Tar Heels, he was a regular part of the rotation, registering 29 tackles, including 10 tackles for loss and 3.5 sacks over that span. The 21-year-old was viewed by those close to the team as a potential rising star, especially after being named the MVP of UNC's 2010 spring game. In that game McAdoo posted four sacks and an interception.
Designed to be an avenue into the NFL for "special case" players, the supplemental draft has grown in popularity in recent years.
The Redskins selected former Kentucky star defensive end Jeremy Jarmon in the third round in 2009. Last year there were two players selected -- the Bears selected BYU running back Harvey Unga and the Cowboys took Illinois defensive tackle Joshua Price-Brent. Both athletes were selected in the seventh round.
The supplemental draft was canceled in 2008 -- no players were eligible -- but 10 players applied for special eligibility in 2007. Of them, two were selected. San Diego drafted former Georgia cornerback Paul Oliver in the fourth round, and Baltimore picked up Maryland offensive tackle Jared Gaither a round later.
Since its inception in 1977, a total of 41 players have been selected via the supplemental draft. Among the most notable selections were quarterback Bernie Kosar (Cleveland, 1985), wide receiver Cris Carter (Philadelphia, 1987) and linebacker Brian Bosworth (Seattle, 1987). The supplemental draft was originally created for players who had lost their eligibility to play collegiate football between the regular April draft and the beginning of the next season. Many "special case" players had lost their eligibility due to academics or legal troubles. Any interest in McAdoo with a 4th or 5th?
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Maybe a 7th round pick. McAdoo didn't even start.
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McAdoo didn't even start.
That doesn't mean he's no good. All it means was that he was playing behind Robert Quinn. This was his season to start and work his way up the draft boards (if all went well).
If the FO does it's homework on this guy and deem him a value pick in the 4th, 5th, or 6th rounds....since we are thin at DE right now, maybe we grab this guy and get a year to build a DE instead of waiting a full year (to get him or a different DE in the mid-to-late rounds).
As far as Pryor......I would be shocked if someone takes him on or before the 4th round. Ugh...that agent of his, what a douche. I know his job is to raise the value of his client and all....but a first round QB selection? Daymn. I wonder what round he'd tell the media if I was his client. I'm 38, slow, and thin.....so probably a low-2nd. 
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I'm not wasting a 4th round pick on a guy who didn't play much. If the guy was that talented IMO they see the field. I understand what you're saying but in the draft this year we saw guys like Greg Romeus who was an absolute beast in college but was injured last season going in the 7th round. I'd rather take a chance on a guy like that then another Chaun Thompson/Leon Williams type.
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I like Caleb King.. He never was the back he was touted to be at Georgia, but he still made plays..
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I would take a gamble on McAdoo. I think that he has the talent to be an impact player in the NFL. he'll need some work, but he has the size/speed combination that can't be taught.
I might gamble a 5th for him.
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Pryor is not eligible for the supplemental draft... LINK
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not only that but it seemed awfully odd that it wasn't until after Pryor announced intention to try his hat in the NFL did OSU bar him from campus (thus meeting the NFL supplemental criteria better)
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not only that but it seemed awfully odd that it wasn't until after Pryor announced intention to try his hat in the NFL did OSU bar him from campus (thus meeting the NFL supplemental criteria better)
I thought they did that because he hired an agent?
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not only that but it seemed awfully odd that it wasn't until after Pryor announced intention to try his hat in the NFL did OSU bar him from campus (thus meeting the NFL supplemental criteria better)
When I read that report - about barring him from the school for 5 years, etc, my understanding was the school did it for his benefit - to take away any misconception of him ever returning. It seems to me his agent asked the school to do it.
Now he may still not be eligible? Wow, he's fallen on hard times if that is correct. How's he going to get his next car?
He might actually have to get a real job????
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I would love to hear: "Hi, my name is Terrell, would you like to try a McCafe Iced Mocha today?" 
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Yeah right. What fast food establishments are YOU going to Ytown? I wish they had that much interaction.  All the ones I go to you're lucky to get a "next" while they stare at the clock with a glazed look in their eyes.
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Well, when I managed my restaurant, I insisted on a "hi" and "thank you" at every customer interaction. I know what you mean about a lot of them though. Chick Fil A is pretty nice though. Maybe Terrell can work there.
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I will be surprised if no team takes Pryor in the Supplemental Draft. We will have someone to check him out just like we did with Newton, but I'm thinking we already have a developmental type that they seem to be pretty high on, in Jarrett Brown. My guess is someone will take him before we are willing to part with a Draft pick. We should get a good look at Brown this Saturday. 
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From what I've read the supplemental draft is for players whose situations have changed since April. When Pryor left school he was still only suspended by Ohio State, meaning he was eligible for play in the NCAA.
I don't think the NFL will let Pryor in as it will open up a huge can of worms. Any player who doesn't like what's going on in spring practice would then be able to leave school and try and enter the supplemental draft.
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From what I've read the supplemental draft is for players whose situations have changed since April. When Pryor left school he was still only suspended by Ohio State, meaning he was eligible for play in the NCAA.
I don't think the NFL will let Pryor in as it will open up a huge can of worms. Any player who doesn't like what's going on in spring practice would then be able to leave school and try and enter the supplemental draft.
Well, your circumstances at college have to change beofre you can just enter the Supplemental Draft. Pryor is saying that since he was ruled ineligible after he left, he wouldn't have been able to play this year anyway.
What may hurt him is the fact that he chose to leave school before he was ruled ineligible.
A random guy who just wanted to leave couldn't do so unless he is otherwise ineligible anyway.
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So, in other words, another guy who just needed to stay out of trouble for one more year and would have been set for life?
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From what I've read the supplemental draft is for players whose situations have changed since April. When Pryor left school he was still only suspended by Ohio State, meaning he was eligible for play in the NCAA.
I don't think the NFL will let Pryor in as it will open up a huge can of worms. Any player who doesn't like what's going on in spring practice would then be able to leave school and try and enter the supplemental draft.
Well, your circumstances at college have to change beofre you can just enter the Supplemental Draft. Pryor is saying that since he was ruled ineligible after he left, he wouldn't have been able to play this year anyway.
What may hurt him is the fact that he chose to leave school before he was ruled ineligible.
A random guy who just wanted to leave couldn't do so unless he is otherwise ineligible anyway.
Well he is still going to workout for scouts before the SD and scouts will be there including one of ours. Doesn't mean we would draft him.
So he is acting like he will be in the Draft.
The one and only time I even cared about the SD was when Bernie came out.
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www.KFFL.comNFL | Terrelle Pryor's workout on hold Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:09:20 -0700 Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor has put his workout for teams on hold while the NFL still tries to determine if he is eligible for the 2011 Supplemental Draft.
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Pryor delayed his Pro Day because he doesn't know if he is eligible yet.
I hear the Omaha Nighthawks could use a backup QB.
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So, in other words, another guy who just needed to stay out of trouble for one more year and would have been set for life?
Pretty much. Hell, he could have even simply acted like he was going to honor his word, and then when OSU ruled him ineligible, he could have entered the Supplemental Draft with no problems, but instead he showed his true colors, went back on his word, and screwed himself.
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He could always go work at the Citgo w/ Jamarcus Russell.
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I think the NFL won't let him in. I'm sure they want to, more press is always a good thing, but they'll be afraid to bend the rules this one time. If they did let him in, I wouldn't have any problem with it (unless we drafted him).
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Actually I think the NFL is sticking it to him for doing what he did to OSU and Tressell. Not to say Tress doesn't deserve it but he was the meal ticket. Don't be surprised if some of the decision-makers aren't closely linked to College Football as that is their feeder.
I think the NFL is looking to make a point...don't intentionally screw up your eligibility to get a free pass into the NFL.
He didn't make mistakes, he intentionally messed with his eligibility.
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I think the NFL is looking to make a point...don't intentionally screw up your eligibility to get a free pass into the NFL.
He didn't make mistakes, he intentionally messed with his eligibility.
I could buy that, but not so much on the "because he screwed over Tressel angle."
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Actually I think the NFL is sticking it to him for doing what he did to OSU and Tressell. Not to say Tress doesn't deserve it but he was the meal ticket. Don't be surprised if some of the decision-makers aren't closely linked to College Football as that is their feeder.
I think the NFL is looking to make a point...don't intentionally screw up your eligibility to get a free pass into the NFL.
He didn't make mistakes, he intentionally messed with his eligibility.
I just think they are following the rules they already had in place.
And any player receiving benefits is "intentionally" screwing up their eligilility. Pryor left school because he didn't want to be suspended. Leaving school fdidn't make him ineligible.
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I think the NFL is looking to make a point...don't intentionally screw up your eligibility to get a free pass into the NFL.
He didn't make mistakes, he intentionally messed with his eligibility.
I could buy that, but not so much on the "because he screwed over Tressel angle."
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OSU and Tressel aren't writing checks to the NFL....so they don't give a rats butt about what Pryor did to Buckeye Nation. Heck, Tressel and Buckeye Nation wouldn't have been hurt at all had Tressel just told the truth from the beginning (but let's move on from that).
This is will be able sticking to a rule to make sure other guys after him don't pull the same crap.
However, if the supplemental draft was televised, I would bet my next mortgage payment that they'd change the rule. Anything to add spice to the TV ratings.
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Lots of interest in Caleb King Former Georgia RB Caleb King reportedly has over 20 NFL teams at his Pro Day Monday, Aug. 15. League should let Pryor into supplemental draft now Posted by Mike Florio on August 15, 2011, 7:43 AM EDT Terrelle Pryor’s future as an NFL quarterback isn’t clear. Far less clear is his present. Two days away from the annual supplemental draft, the NFL has yet to give Pryor, shown working out in his hometown of Jeannette, Pennsylvania on Friday, an answer as to whether he’ll be eligible. Even if he gets in right now, he’ll be at a significant disadvantage, since he’ll have roughly 48 hours to organize and conduct a workout for teams who may be interested in him. That fact alone puts the NFL squarely in the wrong for, by all appearances, tiptoeing on eggshells for the curators of the free farm system known as college football. The league seems to believe it has an obligation to assist the NCAA with its grossly selective and horribly inefficient enforcement system. In this specific case, the league can help the NCAA by keeping Pryor out of the NFL for 2011, giving teeth to the suspension that inevitably would have been imposed if he hadn’t left Ohio State. But that’s not the league’s job, and it definitely doesn’t mesh with the concerns the NFL has been floating. The league seems to be searching for an excuse to keep Pryor out based not on the classic reasons for inclusion in the supplemental draft (i.e., loss of eligibility after the deadline for entering the April draft) by painting his decision to leave Ohio State as an effort to engineer his entry into the supplemental draft, when the evidence suggests otherwise. As we’ve heard it, Pryor has proven to the league that, one way or the other, he wouldn’t have been playing college football in 2011. Either the NCAA would be suspending him, or Ohio State would be shutting him down on its own. And that quit-or-be-fired vibe emerged, we’re told, after Pryor met with the NCAA in May and answered questions in a way that significantly undermined his ongoing eligibility. At that point, folks at Ohio State began to suggest that Pryor should leave. After Jim Tressel resigned and Luke Fickell was appointed to take over, we’re told that Fickell wouldn’t return Pryor’s calls. But the NFL still seems to be trying to fit the square peg of reality into the round hole of the NCAA’s agenda. It’s wrong, and the fact that the NFL has yet to issue a decision suggests that the NFL knows it’s wrong. The NFL needs to do the right thing right now, and let Pryor into the draft. If he’s good enough to get drafted, and if (as we’re hearing) Jon Gruden is privately expressing a belief that Pryor may be better than Cam Newton, then Pryor will get drafted, even without a Pro Day workout and with NFL teams trying to slap together a season on the fly. Either way, the kid should have a chance to enter the NFL now. The league’s rules contemplate that outcome, even if the league’s politics don’t.
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I figured a few teams would be interested in King.. but not that many.. wow..
I know his brother (my old barber) is happy, b/c King has a lot of talent, but the pieces didnt fall together for him.. which is mostly his fault (off the field issues atleast)
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Right, and in the originally linked article it states that he was at first signed by them, but that's been voided and he's now being forced into the Supplemental Draft because he still has eligibility remaining.
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Sounds like a guy who should get a better contract anyway. lol
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linkThe NFL declared former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft Thursday but ruled that he will not be able to play in the first five games of the 2011 season after he signs a contract. The league announced Pryor was eligible in a memo sent to its 32 teams Thursday. The 2011 supplemental draft will take place Monday, Aug. 22. The NFL said that Pryor can play in preseason games after he is drafted, although he can't play until Week 6 of the season. "... Pryor made decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Draft. Those actions included failing to cooperate with the NCAA and hiring an agent in violation of NCAA rules, which resulted in Ohio State declaring him ineligible to continue playing college football. "Pryor then applied to enter the NFL after the regular draft. Pryor had accepted at the end of the 2010 college football season a suspension for the first five games of the 2011 season for violating NCAA rules. Pryor will be ineligible to practice prior to or play in the first five games of the NFL regular season after he signs."
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Ya know, I think that's very fair. He'll get drafted, be on a team, draw a paycheck (though very small), have the opportunity to learn and still goes through the punishment he accepted last season.
Good for him.
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The problem I have with it is that it's changing the rules of the Supplemental draft (from the way I understood them). His situation changed because of his doing.
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