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This is what causes everyone to get some complacent around here.
You prepare, pack, board, get all ready, then it turns away. So the next one you wait a little longer before you pack and board up, and it turns away, then the next and next, until we have people waiting til 24-48 hrs before to do anything.
Luckily we installed hurricane shutters after Charlie, so it only takes about 15-20 minutes to shutter up the house and bring the patio furniture and stuff inside the lanai. We always keep a couple cases of water on hand anyway, so when a storm is approaching we pick up another 1 or 2, and fill up the gas cans for the generator, which then get's used in the wife's car if nothing comes of the storm.
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That's like what the one weather reporter said, "9 out of 10 times it blows past but that doesn't mean you don't prepare for those just like you prepare for that one time it does hit." I would rather be well prepared and know that there is a very good chance I will need to pack my stuff up and get me and the furries to a safe place. I will be hanging out in front of the Weather Channel all day again today. If Irene changes directions and shows that she will hit land before the Outer Banks then my jeep is getting packed and I'm outta here.
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Maybe I'll ask after 10 years of near misses.  You will get somewhat complacent, but we keep a hurricane kit stashed away with flashlights, batteries first aid kit, etc. Check it every June and replace anything that needs replacing. I also pull the computer backup batteries out from the desks and keep them nearby if we decide to ride out a storm, they hold a good charge and allow you to plug in a small TV for a bit if the power goes out. If you plan it out, you can be ready in a matter of minutes. About the only thing we go get when a storm is approaching is the gas and additional water.
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I like your thinking. I know where everything I need is for an emergency kit. I just keep it handy at all times cuz I'm such an accident prone klutz at times. (for instance, had the teeth removed Tuesday and Tuesday night hit my head on the cabinet in the kitchen....almost needed a bandaid LOL) I am NOT afraid to take advice from anyone who has weathered this type of storm before and knows what needs to be done. I actually appreciate all the help I have been getting over the last couple of days to get everything prepped for the possibility of evacuation and closing up for the storm. Thanks so much for all the great advice and information Florida. 
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Glad to be of help. We have all those supplies around the house as well, but we keep a specific hurricane kit supply because you don't want to need something and find you'd used it all up, whereas with the kit, we check it in June for replenishing and keep it stored away so we know we have everything without having to run around trying to get stuff while everyone else is as well. As I'm sure you've seen the last few days, things get hectic, store shelves become bare. And it's only worse if the storm is a sure thing. I've been to Publix (the main grocery store around here) during a hurricane threat and literally all water and most soft drinks shelves were empty, the can goods section was picked dry, cereal all gone. It looked like the apocalypse. A couple local sub shops we're closed 2 days before the storm arrived, because people were buying a bunch of subs to keep in a cooler during the storm. Oh, and beer sales rise before a storm. 
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I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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No, it's the third one over that way.
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It must be the grey one. 
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We are staying oceanfront in Myrtle this week and this is the first time I turned the computer on. It was a beautiful week and now we are in an outer band. Starting to rain and the wind is NNE. Winds supposed to be 40-65 here tonight.
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They are closing all mass transit in NYC tomorrow at noon. All Trains bridges and buses. This is the first time this has ever happened. They are also doing mandatory evacuations of low lying areas. Also a first. The big problems is the hurricane will be hitting at high tide.
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How much longer you guys gonna be in town? I'm over at Apache Campground year round. If you guys are here when the weather clears up let me know and we can have an adult beverage to celebrate not getting washed out to sea.
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I think they are over-hyping this hurricane. We shall see.
On a side note; I went to the beach today and the waves were great. I would've stayed in the water longer, but I kept getting stung by jellyfish. There were some huge ones that washed up on the beach.
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I think they are over-hyping this hurricane. We shall see.
I agree.
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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better safe than sorry . we are talking about lives.
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Yes, and thank you for that Bad. I am currently being inundated with heavy rain and fairly strong winds gusting to around 50 mph. I aslo live 300 feet from the beach access and about 10 feet above sea level. Even though what is hitting Myrtle Beach is considered a tropical storm, it isn't anything I would wish on anyone or underestimate. I sit here with the winds blowing so hard at times the walls of my home are moving.
I can honestly say that if Irene had not veered just the amount she did, I would currently be sitting in Charleston, NC riding out the storm at my friends house.
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I think it is easy to see all the hype as hype if you are not here. The hype is also a possible life saving warning.
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I'm not saying it's not going to do any damage; it will. But, it's only a category 1 and they are talking like it's gonna be the storm of the century. The media likes to hype these things up, bottom line
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They are closing all mass transit in NYC tomorrow at noon. All Trains bridges and buses. This is the first time this has ever happened. They are also doing mandatory evacuations of low lying areas. Also a first. The big problems is the hurricane will be hitting at high tide.
Most businesses are closed and NJ Transit is shut down as well. I think they are going overboard, but it is better safe than sorry. Like you said, the tides are the big fear in NYC. They are saying if the winds reach a certain speed the waves could reach 40-50 feet!!
We live right along the New jersey border into Staten Island, so we are keeping an eye out to see how bad this gets. If the waves get bad, we are going to have to head west for the night.
“It doesn't make sense to hire smart people and tell them what to do; we hire smart people so they can tell us what to do.” -Steve Jobs.
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I had to wonder when the President cut short his vacation, and talked up the millions of bottle of water, and the hundreds of thousands of meals ready to go do a potential disaster site.
If it's that bad ..... why the hell is anyone still there? If it's only "so so", then why wouldn't someone staying behind have enough food and water to last them .... just in case?
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When Irene was on her way towards us yesterday she was still a CAT 3 but due to whatever force of nature she started falling off over night and has been downgraded to a Cat 1 with surges to Cat 2.
Myrtle Beach survived but right now the Outer Banks are taking the full force of her might. Hutch, I don't want you to take this wrong but honey, it's NOT like a tornado which hits and quits. Hurricanes are SUSTAINED winds that can do some serious damage. It is better to be well prepared and looking at the worst case scenarios than to be complacent like you are being and possibly end up DEAD.
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Nothing wrong with being prepared, but the media makes it sound like this thing will be twice as worse as Katrina.
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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I'm glad you're all safe.
I will agree with others that I think the media is playing this up to the hilt.
Is it dangerous still? Certainly. I don't think anyone should downplay that.
But, I also don't think people should OVERplay it, either.
If you believed the media, this is a category 14 hurricane with sustained winds of close to 900 mph and the rain is made of sulfuric acid.
That's all I'm saying. You absolutely have to be careful and take it seriously. But, you also shouldn't exaggerate things like the media is doing.
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Ken, at first it was showing a real nasty face that would have made Katrina look like childs play in comparison. (not trying to downplay all the damage done by Katrina) We got very lucky that it was downgraded to a Cat 1 since it was looking to make Cat 5 at one point. It has been a blessing for some of us that she didn't make landfall earlier when she was actually close to being a Cat 4. Now that she has started to peter out and is now a Cat 1, the damage will still be there but it will not be as catastrophic as it could have been had she made landfall as a Cat 3.
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Atomic, I know all about hurricanes. I moved to Florida just in time to witness, firsthand, Hurricane Jeanne. I'm a bit odd, because I actually enjoyed it. Of course, I didn't live on the coast so all we had was the sustained winds, but I just loved experiencing the might of the hurricane. I love storms.
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Yeah, it is being made to sound like it's going to be the greatest disaster ever known to man ....... and I don't think that it ever approached the level of the tsunami the hit Japan.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being cautious, and nothing wrong with being prepared. Everyone in the path of any storm should take measures to be as safe as possible. That's my point. We shouldn't have to be standing by with aid, ready to fly in at a moment's notice ...... because if the storm's that bad, no one should still be there.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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I think that part of the reason that it's getting so much "love" from the media is two things:
1. It's only the FIRST hurricane of the season... and we're already to the letter 'I' in named storms. That's a pretty hefty drought for people wanting to pimp storms, lol. I mean, it's nearly the END of August, with barely two months to go until the end of hurricane season and we're just now getting the first one.... the media weather types have been STARVING for this.
2. It is aiming at the east coast.... who's on the east coast? D.C. and NYC... all of the people that make up the news. It's their own personal, "OMG, woe is me" show.
Don't get me wrong, hurricanes are very serious things, and if you've never been through one, those first several hours waiting for it to arrive can be quite tense to say the least... but if you aren't within reach of the storm surge, the danger from them drops off dramatically as long as you don't get stupid. Shingles and roofs will be damaged, but until you get up to like a Cat 3, stick-framed structures will be fine.
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If you live in Florida, then you should know that things can change in an instant, hurricanes are completely unpredictable. I've gone to bed only to wake up in the morning and hear the storm went up two categories and vice versa.
In the Tampa area, we only got hit with a tropical storm as one of them passed over the state and we were without power and water for a week. A tropical storm is even less than a Cat. 1 and yet no power or water for a week (the water restored after a few days but it was on a STRICT boil alert).
Then look at Charlie. That was a massive hurricane that was set to hit Tampa directly. I was out of there so fast and with family in DC. It was something like 2 hours from hitting land when it took a sudden quick turn and struck an unprepared Punta Gorda. When you are in the cone, you prepare just in case. Most people in Punta Gorda were not and thus the damage was much worse than it could have been.
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Yes, hurricanes can change quickly. However, when a hurricane encounters any type of land mass, it will lose it's punch quite quickly. Hurricanes need 2 main things to grow: warm waters and low wind shear. If you pay attention to the projected track of the storm you can usually tell if it will strengthen or weaken. Just going over an island like Cuba can dissipate a hurricane into a much weaker tropical storm. The worst thing about a hurricane is NOT the wind speed, it is the storm surge.
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That reminds me of the comic Ron White, talking about a guy that was going to chain himself to a tree to weather the storm........"It's not THAT the wind is blowing - it's WHAT the wind is blowing."
If you haven't heard his spiel on that - it makes no sense - but it's funny when you hear him.
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You know what is cool?
I was working in Toledo today. On my way home, on the turnpike, I saw 3 separate convoys of utility trucks - power line guys - cruising east.
The first group I saw had at least 22 trucks. The second one had about 10, the third one had 12.
That's 3 different companies that are sending power line help to the east coast. That's, minimum, 44 guys that are going to be away from their families for at least a week I would guess.
And that was just me spending 30 minutes on the turnpike - that's what I saw in 30 minutes.
Know why it's cool? It's called "Helping out". Yes, the guys will get paid - but those companies didn't have to do that.
It was just kind of cool to see. And I know there are hundreds of other utility companies doing the same thing.
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That is great. It reminds of the response after 9/11. There were fire companies all over the country coming into NYC to man the fire stations while the NYFD was at Ground Zero. There are still everyday heroes.
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I was working in Toledo today. On my way home, on the turnpike, I saw 3 separate convoys of utility trucks - power line guys - cruising east.
The first group I saw had at least 22 trucks. The second one had about 10, the third one had 12.
That's 3 different companies that are sending power line help to the east coast. That's, minimum, 44 guys that are going to be away from their families for at least a week I would guess.
And that was just me spending 30 minutes on the turnpike - that's what I saw in 30 minutes.
Know why it's cool? It's called "Helping out". Yes, the guys will get paid - but those companies didn't have to do that.
It was just kind of cool to see. And I know there are hundreds of other utility companies doing the same thing.
Those guys do that kind of stuff all the time.
My ex-boss' husband does that. He goes and fixes power lines across the country damaged in storms. Wouldn't be surprised if he is headed there now. He'll be gone a week or so at a time.
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I was working in Toledo today. On my way home, on the turnpike, I saw 3 separate convoys of utility trucks - power line guys - cruising east.
The first group I saw had at least 22 trucks. The second one had about 10, the third one had 12.
That's 3 different companies that are sending power line help to the east coast. That's, minimum, 44 guys that are going to be away from their families for at least a week I would guess.
And that was just me spending 30 minutes on the turnpike - that's what I saw in 30 minutes.
Know why it's cool? It's called "Helping out". Yes, the guys will get paid - but those companies didn't have to do that.
It was just kind of cool to see. And I know there are hundreds of other utility companies doing the same thing.
Those guys do that kind of stuff all the time.
My ex-boss' husband does that. He goes and fixes power lines across the country damaged in storms. Wouldn't be surprised if he is headed there now. He'll be gone a week or so at a time.
I understand they do it all the time. But, it was cool to see the convoys - cruising down the highway.
I have no doubt if something major happened around here, crews from all over would come to help. It was just kind of neat to see them.
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I was just referring to the part where you said companies didn't have to send people there. Just meant that there are guys who just specifically do that. And yeah, would be cool to see these guys all heading down in a convoy to help it out when all's said and done.
She actually had some kick butt pics of some of the places he had been to. Some nasty ice storms in the winter where EVERYTHING was covered in inches of ice. Cool as hell to look at, but probably not cool to be in the middle of it.
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I agree, it's cool to see.
After Hugo I recall seeing about 20 Detroit Edison trucks rolling down I-75.
After out tornado breakout around here, the teams replacing poles and stringing new wire in the blocks around my house were from Little Rock, Arkansas.....maybe 500 miles away.
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As hurricanes go, this one was fairly weak and did minimal damage but the flooding is turning into a big problem. Some here in the Carolinas but what is going on up in New England is just insane.
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Glad you came through it OK.
My neighbor's son lives in Philly ... so that's been a strain on them.
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Hello atomic dawg, and to all other dawgs that remember rabidfan. Had to re register and get a temporary pw but I made it back.
Yup, Hurricane Irene is a big one, hope everybody has weathered the storm.
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