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09/04/11 - LB Quinton Spears (Miami) was awared to Cleveland on waivers. Spears signed with the Dolphins as an undrafted college free agent this year. He registered a sack with the team in the preseason. The 6-4, 234-pounder began his collegiate career at Prairie View A&M as a walk-on wide receiver before being converted to defensive end. As a senior, he was a first-team All-SWAC selection when he tallied 70 tackles, nine stops for loss, 4.5 sacks, a forced fumble and three blocked kicks. He was a second-team all-conference choice as a junior when he posted 39 tackles, 10.5 stops for loss and five sacks. Born on May 11, 1988, he attended Montgomery (Texas) High School.




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A qb from st louis, and a dl from atlanta

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2. The Rams can’t be pleased that Cleveland claimed quarterback Thaddeus Lewis. The Rams said Lewis was challenging A.J. Feeley for the backup job and they wanted to keep him on the practice squad. Trying to sneak him through waivers didn’t pay off.

The Browns also claimed linebacker Quinton Spears (Miami) and defensive lineman Emmanuel Stephens (Atlanta). They cut Auston English, Benjamin Jacobs, and Derreck Robinson.



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I really thought English looked good this pre-season. Suprised about that cut totally. I guess we have our 3rd QB and I read somewhere that Heckert said that they were watching teams rosters and speculating on cuts and had a plan in place for the waiver wire.
I dont think we are done yet.


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Hmm, cut both Auston English and Derrick Robinson... I don't know about that...

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I really thought English looked good this pre-season. Suprised about that cut totally. I guess we have our 3rd QB and I read somewhere that Heckert said that they were watching teams rosters and speculating on cuts and had a plan in place for the waiver wire.
I dont think we are done yet.




I think that English will be headed for the PS.. might be the same with Robinson.

We'll see in a day or so I guess

With the signing of Lewis, does that signal the end of the Jerret Brown experiment?


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Hmm, cut both Auston English and Derrick Robinson... I don't know about that...




Yes I agree that's a head scratch-er on English. I thought that he was the most active and productive DE in camp.
I hope he can make it to our PS.

Emmanuel Stephens was not much of a force in the preseason for Atlanta.



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Robinson's a 5-year vet, so no PS for him. Hopefully we can get English there though.

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Robinson's a 5-year vet, so no PS for him. Hopefully we can get English there though.




5 year vet doesn't make the team? OK,, then, in the end, they either didn't like what they saw, but more likely thought there was upside to someone else.


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Hmm, cut both Auston English and Derrick Robinson... I don't know about that...




Yes I agree that's a head scratch-er on English. I thought that he was the most active and productive DE in camp.
I hope he can make it to our PS.

Emmanuel Stephens was not much of a force in the preseason for Atlanta.






Heckert will be tinkering with this roster all season.

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Hmm, cut both Auston English and Derrick Robinson... I don't know about that...




Yes I agree that's a head scratch-er on English. I thought that he was the most active and productive DE in camp.
I hope he can make it to our PS.

Emmanuel Stephens was not much of a force in the preseason for Atlanta.






Heckert will be tinkering with this roster all season.




I would have liked to see us keep English over Benard ... He is so over rated imo on this board.


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Robinson's a 5-year vet, so no PS for him. Hopefully we can get English there though.




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Signed OL Dominic Alford, OL Jarrod Shaw, FB Tyler Clutts, RB Quinn Porter, DL Brian Sanford and WR Rod Windsor.

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I'm glad to see we got Clutts and Porter onto the practice squad.


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Robinson's a 5-year vet, so no PS for him. Hopefully we can get English there though.




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Signed OL Dominic Alford, OL Jarrod Shaw, FB Tyler Clutts, RB Quinn Porter, DL Brian Sanford and WR Rod Windsor.




The board is getting a bit redundant with information I think.

English and Jacobs must wait to pass threw waivers before we can attempt to sign them to our PS.


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Feel bad for Jacobs and even more for D.Robinson, who was 1 of the few backups that didn't look like garbage out there...I would have released about 10 other guys before him...that's probably his NFL career (maybe re-signed during the season)...the day after he "made" the team...he doesn't deserve this

Cards waived their 6th rounder Q.Sturdivant and Broncos their 2009 2nd round S McBath...McBath was a good ST player and he sure has more talent than Ventrone

Can't believe nobody claimed all those Eagles DL talent? Landri, Hunt, Teo-Nesheim....or just not made official? Hope we're looking into them


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I would have liked to see us keep English over Benard ... He is so over rated imo on this board.




why would u keep a guy who FINALLY made a few plays in PRESEASON over a guy who contributes and makes plays during the REGULAR season...


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I would have liked to see us keep English over Benard ... He is so over rated imo on this board.




why would u keep a guy who FINALLY made a few plays in PRESEASON over a guy who contributes and makes plays during the REGULAR season...




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D.Robinson, who was 1 of the few backups that didn't look like garbage out there




Huh! After 4 years in the League he should have looked like a pro bowler going up against backups and rookies.

I could have understood keeping him around if they used him as a sort of swing man between DE and DT, but that never materialized.

I liked what I saw from Brian Sanford who has room and time to get better on the PS, that and the fact that there is 6 years difference between the two.

I really, really liked what English showed and thought that he was the most improved player from last years team/PS.

I hope he makes it threw waivers.

Anyway it's fun to see Heckert's plan come together thus far.

By waiting until after the claims, our odds I think are more favorable getting English and Jacobs threw a day after all the activity.
So far we have 6 players from our final cuts who we got to the PS. 5 of the 6 that I thought would be placed there.
I missed on Brown.


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I missed on Brown.




You aren't alone.. I thought for sure they wanted him on the PS..


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why would u keep a guy who FINALLY made a few plays in PRESEASON over a guy who contributes and makes plays during the REGULAR season...





If he makes plays in the regular season then he should make even more going against backups and rookies.

Preseason, Blah, Blah, Blah,

Don't tell every Coach in the League that you can't evaluate players in preseason, they can and do so every year.


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Just reported we signed guard/tackle Artis Hicks who was released from the Redskins. A 32 year old OL who was originally drafted by the iggies in 2002.


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Just reported we signed guard/tackle Artis Hicks who was released from the Redskins. A 32 year old OL who was originally drafted by the iggies in 2002.




Kinda saw that coming ... who goes? Murray


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Don't tell every Coach in the League that you can't evaluate players in preseason, they can and do so every year.




i never said that you can't. thats what preseason is for. but u want to cut our sack leader for a guy that produced in 1 preseason game.


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i never said that you can't. thats what preseason is for. but u want to cut our sack leader for a guy that produced in 1 preseason game.




English produced consistently in every game ... Benard in one.

The only thing he had over English was the fact that he is not qualified for the PS and I think that went into the decision making here.


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Benard was the team's sack leader last year. H ehad 7.5 sacks last year ..... in games that really counted ...... against the starters for some of the better teams in the NFL.

English has 4 sacks in 4 pre-season games against a lot of guys who are now unemployed.

I do think that English has a future in the league ...... but to suggest that he is somehow ahead of Benard based on a couple of pre-season games is kind of ridiculous.


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I do think that English has a future in the league ...... but to suggest that he is somehow ahead of Benard based on a couple of pre-season games is kind of ridiculous.







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The only one that surprised me was English. I thought he played well enough to get a roster spot.


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I was kinda surprised that we let English go and kept Hagg or Ventrone.

I do think that Hagg would have cleared waivers and made it to the practice squad, but it seems like Heckert was going to keep all of his draft picks no matter what. Hagg won't even be in position to contribute for a few weeks. Heckert said something about him just starting to work in the pool. That's a minimum of 2-3 weeks away. I think that they could have waived him and signed him to the practice squad .... or put him on IR for that matter.

Ventrone will probably contribute mostly on special teams, and that was probably seen as more important than a developmental guy. Hagg really makes me wonder though.


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I was kinda surprised that we let English go and kept Hagg or Ventrone.

I do think that Hagg would have cleared waivers and made it to the practice squad, but it seems like Heckert was going to keep all of his draft picks no matter what. Hagg won't even be in position to contribute for a few weeks. Heckert said something about him just starting to work in the pool. That's a minimum of 2-3 weeks away. I think that they could have waived him and signed him to the practice squad .... or put him on IR for that matter.

Ventrone will probably contribute mostly on special teams, and that was probably seen as more important than a developmental guy. Hagg really makes me wonder though.





Last time we did that Carolina stole our guy....and EVERYONE was mad because we tried to do that. I swear I sometimes think some of you guys just look for things to complain about on here.


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Actually, it was Jacksonville.

Regardless, I would have kept the kid who showed a lot during pre-season over a guy who didn't play much, if at all. That's my opinion .... and last time I checked .... I'm entitled to it.


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The Browns upgraded their 53-man roster Sunday by adding a veteran guard with starting potential and an intriguing young quarterback prospect they were thrilled to land.

Signed to a one-year contract was 10th-year offensive lineman Artis Hicks, a league source told The Plain Dealer. Hicks, 32, was released Saturday by the Redskins. Signed as an undrafted free agent in 2002 by the Eagles and then-General Manager Tom Heckert, Hicks will most likely work at left guard and might even challenge for the starting job.

The young quarterback is first-year pro Thaddeus Lewis, who played for Browns coach Pat Shurmur in St. Louis last season. Lewis (6-2, 200) was one of three players the Browns were awarded off waivers Sunday. The others were linebacker Quinton Spears from Miami and defensive lineman Emmanuel Stephens from Atlanta.

The Rams had hoped to sneak Lewis through waivers and sign him to their practice squad, but Shurmur -- who was heavily involved in scouring the waiver wire -- liked him a lot last year and plucked him off. The Browns waived third-team quarterback Jarrett Brown on Saturday and would have signed him to the practice squad if Lewis hadn't come free.

"We probably were going to stick with two, but Pat coached him, and we talked about him last year," Heckert said in a conference call.

"He was on their practice squad all last year. He's a very talented kid. He's very accurate. He was 70-some percent in the preseason this year and he was 70-something last year. We like everything about the kid and are really excited to have him."

The Rams admitted they were disappointed about losing Lewis, who would have been groomed as Sam Bradford's backup.

"We were hoping he wasn't claimed, but we fully understood that he played good enough in the preseason, where I know he opened some people's eyes, and Pat's certainly familiar with him in Cleveland," Rams GM Billy Devaney told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Lewis was originally signed by the Rams as a free agent out of Duke, where he set school career records for passing yards (10,065) and touchdowns (67). He also rushed for 621 yards and nine TDs. As a senior, he threw for 20 touchdowns, with eight interceptions. In preseason last year, he completed 78.6 percent of his passes (22 of 28) and earned a 113.6 rating. This year, he completed 23 of 32 (71.9 percent) and earned a stellar 96.6 rating.

As for the left guard spot vacated by Eric Steinbach (back), the Browns have been starting rookie Jason Pinkston but might opt for more experience. Hicks, who has played for the Eagles, Vikings and Redskins, has started 58 of his 94 games, mostly at guard.

"We do like Pinkston a lot," said Heckert before Hicks was signed. "We think he's going to be a really good player. We'll see how it shakes out this week and who's going to be starting at left guard."

To make room for the four new players, the Browns waived offensive lineman Pat Murray, defensive lineman Auston English and linebacker Benjamin Jacobs. They also terminated the contract of defensive lineman Derrick Robinson.

In addition, the Browns signed six players to their practice squad who they had waived Saturday: offensive linemen Dominic Alford and Jarrod Shaw, fullback Tyler Clutts, running back Quinn Porter, defensive lineman Brian Sanford and receiver Rod Windsor.

Heckert said the Browns added Spears, in part, to provide some depth while Titus Brown recovers from his high ankle sprain. "He's a very, very talented kid. He's almost 6-5, 240-something and he can run. But he also put his hand down and rushed the passer. He was very productive in preseason."



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Actually, it was Jacksonville.

Regardless, I would have kept the kid who showed a lot during pre-season over a guy who didn't play much, if at all. That's my opinion .... and last time I checked .... I'm entitled to it.




Thanks I didnt feel like looking it up. I just dont see the point in picking apart each and every move the FO makes. Obviously Heckertt knows what he is down, my only problem with how this off season went was getting rid of Vickers....other than that I have understood most of what they are trying to do. Just give them time is all I am sayin.


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The whole point of having a message board is to express opinions ........


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Sometimes you have to look at positional needs.

It does you no good to keep a extra d-lineman if you need a extra safety.

The best comparison would be to ask which other d-lineman should we have let go?


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Benard was the team's sack leader last year. H ehad 7.5 sacks last year ..... in games that really counted ...... against the starters for some of the better teams in the NFL.

English has 4 sacks in 4 pre-season games against a lot of guys who are now unemployed.

I do think that English has a future in the league ...... but to suggest that he is somehow ahead of Benard based on a couple of pre-season games is kind of ridiculous.




What I think is ridicules is using only the sack totals as a measuring stick for who is or who would be the better player at the position. I never said Benard wasn't a good pass rusher, but he is not as strong at the point of attack and I don't think he gets off his blocks fast enough, come to think of it neither does Mitchell.

What I liked about English is that he seems to be a 3 down player and that he has a good nose for the ball and showed that he was a sure tackler.

Benard has never been a 3 down player, so stop over rating the guy just because he is a Brown. English not only out played him in preseason. I thought he out played every DE.
That's my opinion.

I could careless if any of you agree. What do you know anyways.


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I could careless if any of you agree. What do you know anyways.




He knows that Benard is a part of the 53-man and English is not..


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Bernard produced against starting lineups, in games that counted. English looked good against grocery baggers...........just my .02


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