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2011 Cleveland Browns preview: Colt McCoy is here to prove you wrong
Published: Sunday, September 11, 2011, 5:57 AM Updated: Sunday, September 11, 2011, 6:31 AM
By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer

The eyes of Browns fans are on quarterback Colt McCoy, and he now carries their hopes to lead a winner in Cleveland.

CLEVELAND, Ohio — It was the dog days of Browns training camp in 2010 and Colt McCoy, the all-time winningest quarterback in NCAA history, was a nobody. Browns President Mike Holmgren told him he'd sit out the year to watch and learn, and the coaching staff ignored him. Some in the media even speculated he might not survive the final roster cut.

Undaunted, he called his former Texas offensive coordinator Greg Davis and said: "Coach, they're telling me I'm not going to play this year, but I will. I'll start games for the Browns this season."

Davis sat back in his chair and smiled. He remembered a scrawny little freshman looking across that same desk at him in 2006 and announcing, "I'm going to be the best quarterback you've ever had." Yeah, Davis didn't doubt for a second that McCoy would start for the Browns last year. Because he knew something the Browns didn't yet: that McCoy was the most driven kid on the planet -- and more determined than anyone he'd ever met to prove you wrong.

Colt McCoy was born into football, the game encoded on his DNA. His father, Brad, was a high school coach in small towns in Texas, where Friday night lights ruled. "It was either football season or fixin' to be football season," said McCoy's best boyhood friend, Cam Holson. As legend has it, McCoy was actually born in New Mexico, but while his mom was in labor, Brad raced 20 miles to the Texas border, filled a shoebox with dirt and placed it under the delivery table so Colt could be born on Texas soil.

McCoy's real first name is Daniel, after the prophet in the lion's den, but they called him by his middle name, Colt, which had more of a Texas vibe. Like his son, Brad had a dream to play big-time college and pro football, but a knee injury took care of that. He ended up playing for Abilene Christian, where his father, Daddy Burl McCoy -- a former top collegiate hurdler -- coached track and women's basketball. It's also where Brad met McCoy's mom, Debra, who played basketball for Daddy Burl.

When Colt was 3, the McCoys moved back to Texas to be near Daddy Burl's sprawling ranch, and along came two more boys, Chance and Case. Brad had feelers from bigger 5A powerhouses, but opted for smaller 2A schools so he could raise country boys like himself. The house was filled with love, laughter and roughhousing. "We were so competitive, we'd see who could eat something the fastest at the dinner table," said Brad.

The McCoys were committed Christians who often spent summer vacations at church camps, and Colt even performed at religious events around the country with the McCoy Family Singers.

As a youngster, McCoy was Brad's sidekick on the field and in the office. He dreamed of being a quarterback and loved watching the coaches diagram plays. Once, as a 6-year-old ballboy, McCoy tugged on his dad's headset-wire during a game and yelled, "Daddy, run the screen, run the screen!" The San Saba Armadillos were struggling and Colt knew what to do. Brad tried to shoo the boy away, but he persisted. "Run the screen, dad!" With little to lose, Brad shrugged and tried it. The screen led to a TD and the Armadillos won.

The McCoys were strict and taught their boys to set lofty goals. Every day when Brad dropped Colt off for school, he'd say, "Have a good day, do your best . . ." and then Colt would finish . . . "and be a leader."

From early on, McCoy worked on things relentlessly until he got it right. Daddy Burl once found him outside in the driveway perfecting a Jordan-like crossover dribble move in the freezing cold. He'd throw a football through a tire until his arm ached and was always the last to leave practice. He'd watch films of his mom playing basketball to emulate her scrappy defense.

Junior and high school

When McCoy was in sixth grade, Brad took the head coaching job at Jim Ned High in Tuscola, a tiny west Texas outpost about 15 miles south of Abilene. Population: 726. One bank, one restaurant, three churches, one flashing yellow light and a five-story water tower. The 2A high school was the crown jewel, with 325 kids from Tuscola and neighboring towns.

colt mccoy high school.JPGView full sizeTommy Metthe, Abilene Reporter-NewsColt McCoy was a star at Jim Ned High School in Texas.

The McCoys moved on to a 10-acre spread, where they raised cows and goats, and had a donkey named Taco. They were a half-hour away from Daddy Burl and GranJan's ranch, where the boys baled hay and fed the animals.

When McCoy was gearing up for seventh-grade football, a nutritionist urged the team to eat right and give up sodas. Soon after, Colt, who sometimes guzzled six Dr. Peppers a day, downed his last one and swore them off -- forever. "Nothing was going to slow him down," said Brad.

Brad helped coach the junior high so he could develop Colt, and by his second game, a dad from the opposing team told Brad, "he's going to win the Heisman one day." Behind McCoy's uncanny accuracy and nimble feet, his junior high and junior varsity teams went a combined 28-0.

Despite that, some in Tuscola felt McCoy didn't deserve the varsity job. "Colt had to work harder and be better than everyone else to prove himself," said Holson, who was McCoy's No. 1 target, best friend and the son of a Jim Ned defensive assistant.

Brad was so careful to not play favorites that a player once asked him to ease up on Colt. When McCoy asked what it would take to play in college and the pros, his dad said, "set yourself apart." For McCoy, that meant outworking everyone else.

In addition to swearing off sodas, he was asleep by 9:30 p.m. and rarely needed his midnight curfew. He shunned alcohol in high school and worked so hard in the weight room that teammates followed suit. "He wanted to throw a football all day long and I was happy to oblige," said Holson. "Whatever Colt was doing, you wanted to do it, too."

From the time he was little, McCoy longed to play at a powerhouse like Texas or Texas Tech, and then in the NFL. Problem was, the skinny kid -- 6-0, 170 pounds at the time -- from the 2A school wasn't on their radar. In fact, no one from Jim Ned had ever played Division I football.

The summer before his junior year, McCoy attended a camp at Texas, which was coming off back-to-back 11-2 seasons under Mack Brown. The camp drew 300 kids, including 50 quarterbacks. Midway through, McCoy realized he was invisible to the coaches. On the way home he told his dad, "I know you don't think this, but I'm going to be the starting quarterback at Texas someday." Brad didn't argue. "I knew we were in trouble, because Colt was on a mission."

In an effort to capture Texas' attention, Colt decided he'd have to win the 2A state title as a junior. He also knew he'd have to bulk up. He drank protein shakes, lifted twice a day and gained 10 pounds. The more he won, the more big-time college coaches trekked to Tuscola, where the crowds swelled to 1,000. "It was no big deal to see Big 12 coaches walking around at our practices," said Holson. "But Colt never acknowledged it."

Finally, Texas sent an assistant, and he found a fiery field general with great zip on the ball and stunning accuracy. As planned, McCoy led his team to a 14-0 record and the 2A title game. But McCoy smacked his hand on a helmet and could barely grip the ball. The Indians lost, 28-7, and McCoy knelt frozen at midfield and cried.

Suddenly, the impact struck Brad: it was the first time McCoy had ever lost a football game. His record since seventh grade: 50-1. As a junior, he threw 50 TD passes and threw for almost 4,000 yards, both state marks.

On to Texas

After that, Brad was deluged with calls from most of the college football powerhouses such as Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, all the Big 12 schools, you name it. After Christmas break, then-Longhorns offensive coordinator Greg Davis came to Jim Ned for a look. "Everybody else looked like they belonged at a 2A school, but not Colt," recalled Davis. "Did I know he'd become a two-time Heisman runner-up and the winningest quarterback in NCAA history? No, but I saw enough to know I wanted him to lead our team."

Colt McCoy followed a legend at Texas in Vince Young, but he more than held his own, becoming the winningest quarterback in NCAA history.

It was actually on the basketball court that McCoy, who also led his team to the state title game in basketball, sold Davis.

"When you watch someone play without a helmet, you can see their facial expressions, their peripheral vision," said Davis. "I could see his quickness and his lateral movement. His teammates snapped to his attention."

On tape, Davis saw the two things he was looking for. "No. 1, he was accurate with the football and much more athletic than people realized," Davis said. "No. 2, he had the ability to ad-lib and extend plays. I felt he was going to be our guy."

That spring, the McCoys visited Brown in his office overlooking Darrell K Royal Stadium. Brown dripped with Texas charm, but needn't have: he had McCoy at hello. Right there, McCoy verbally committed to Texas.

Two weeks before National Signing Day, Brown stunned Tuscola with a visit, signing autographs and visiting the elementary school where McCoy's mom taught phys ed. But shortly after McCoy signed his letter of intent, he was slammed by the press. A small kid from a 2A school? Surely he'd never make it. The recruiting class was downgraded to No. 20 nationally. More fuel for the fire.

On campus, McCoy soon realized he was no longer on the farm, having gone from 70 kids in his graduating class to 3,000 in his dorm complex alone. What's more, the athletic dorm was filthy and loud. But McCoy, at the urging of Daddy Burl, committed himself to his faith. He and receiver Jordan Shipley, a boyhood friend whose father played with Brad at Abilene Christian, went to church every week and hung out.

When McCoy first showed up at Texas, he was 179 pounds and, Brown said, looked like "a skinned squirrel." But Texas quarterback Vince Young welcomed him and taught him everything. He even let McCoy throw some passes at his first players-only practice.

With Young having two years of eligibility remaining, McCoy was redshirted as a freshman. But he followed Young like a puppy, preparing as though he were starting. The Longhorns went 12-0 that season, were ranked No. 2, then faced No. 1 USC in the BCS National Championship Game in the Rose Bowl. The night before the game, Young called McCoy over and broke the news: he was leaving early for the NFL and handing the reins over to McCoy.






"I was shocked," said McCoy. "I couldn't sleep at all that night. I just stared at the ceiling. All of a sudden, it was my team." A blue-chip recruit named Jevan Snead from a 4A school in Texas had verbally committed, but McCoy vowed he'd win the job.

Late in the title game, Young approached McCoy during a timeout and told him to take notes. "You'll be here some day," McCoy recalled in his book "Growing Up Colt," written with his dad. With seconds to go, Young ran in for a TD on fourth down to win the national championship.

A few days later, McCoy met with Davis in his office. "He told me, 'Coach, I'm ready. I'm going to be the best you've ever had,' " Davis said. "Big, strapping Vince Young had just won the national championship and I felt like I had Pee Wee Herman sitting across from me. I said, 'That's great Colt. Now go hit the weight room.' "

That summer, McCoy organized scrimmages the way Young had shown him. He took attendance and contacted absent players. His teammates were so impressed they told Brown that McCoy was their guy. The baby-faced freshman looked like a boy among men, but commanded the attention of even the NFL-bound linemen.

In his debut against North Texas, McCoy threw three TD passes en route to a 56-7 blowout. McCoy and the Longhorns lost their next game, to top-ranked Ohio State, but went on to win their next eight games. Suddenly, he was a campus phenom and a national star.

In 2008, the Longhorns started 8-0, but lost to Texas Tech on a last-second touchdownn to cost themselves a shot at the Big 12 championship and BCS title game. Instead, Texas earned a trip to the Fiesta Bowl to play Ohio State, where McCoy threw a TD pass with 16 seconds remaining for a 24-21 come-from-behind victory. The Longhorns finished 12-1 and McCoy was the game's MVP.

McCoy was also one of three finalists for Heisman Trophy that year, along with Tim Tebow and Sam Bradford, with whom he became close friends. McCoy finished as the runner-up to Bradford in a close race.

As a senior, McCoy led Texas to the BCS Championship Game against top-ranked Alabama, but on the fifth play of the game, he was hit from behind by defensive end Marcell Dareus and a pain rippled through his shoulder. He popped up to run another play, but his arm was dead. In the locker room, he couldn't hold it out straight or throw the ball 10 yards to his dad. Still, he gave a pep talk at halftime and stood on the sidelines in uniform for the second half of a 37-21 Alabama victory.

"The fact he had to stand there and watch, it was torture to him and torture to us," said Brad.

Asked by ESPN how it felt to be on the sidelines, McCoy said, "God is in control of my life and I know that if nothing else, I am standing on the rock." The speech went viral on the Internet and got almost 300,000 hits on YouTube.

Soon after, he was diagnosed with a serious nerve injury in his shoulder that would require rehab, but no surgery. Problem was, the feeling in his arm was gone and he had no idea when it was coming back.

"The truth of it was, I didn't know if I was ever going to play again," he said.

McCoy still went through with his elaborate plans a few days later to propose to his girlfriend, Rachel Glandorf. When they first met, Glandorf, then working for a TV station in Austin, had no desire to date an athlete and turned him down numerous times. "I thought I had no chance," said McCoy. "It made me try even harder." While in the Longhorns' stadium, McCoy's proposal flashed in brilliant lights on the gigantic scoreboard. Of course, she said yes.

Colt to the pros

For the first month after his injury, McCoy still had no feeling in his arm. "I had no hope," he said.

At the NFL Combine in February, he didn't throw, and teams were concerned. They also weren't impressed with his 6-11/2 height. "Another inch taller and I probably would've been a first-rounder," said McCoy. "It just drives me ever more."

By the time his Pro Day rolled around, McCoy had enough arm strength to complete 55-of-55 attempts. Little did he know that the arm strength would be fleeting. But at least one team was very interested: the Cleveland Browns. Holmgren had received rave reviews on McCoy from his friend, former NFL coach and current broadcaster Jon Gruden, who worked McCoy out for his televised quarterback special. "I knew they liked me," said McCoy. "Coach Holmgren even reminded me that he coached two Hall of Famers who were my size."

The criticism didn't stop McCoy from declaring himself the best quarterback in the draft. But the first round came and went with no call. In the second round, the Browns picked T.J. Ward and Montario Hardesty. "The cameras showed Colt and I knew that look on his face," said Holson. "I could see the little chip on his shoulder growing."

Finally, the Browns selected McCoy in the third round with the 85th pick overall -- long after Bradford was picked No. 1 and Tebow was taken 25th overall. "Colt was thrilled with where he was going, just not happy he lasted that long," said Holson.

More fuel for the fire.

By rookie camp the next week, Holmgren announced that McCoy wouldn't play in 2010, that his job was to watch and learn behind Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace. In training camp, McCoy was virtually overlooked by the staff. Still, he was chastised for making mistakes in preseason games. Soon, he got the impression that coach Eric Mangini and offensive coordinator Brian Daboll didn't want him.

"Colt had been around coaches his whole life," said Brad. "He knew the signals."

Finally, speculation hit the press that McCoy might not survive the final cut. "I was like, 'Whoa, I haven't even had a chance to do anything yet,' " said McCoy. "That's when I went out and completed 13-of-13 in the final preseason game."

During that training camp, Holmgren consoled McCoy from his golf cart on the practice fields and during visits in Holmgren's office. "I just tried to keep his head up," said Holmgren.

During one of those trips to Holmgren's office, McCoy pointed to the photos on the wall of Holmgren with Hall of Famer Joe Montana and future Hall of Famer Brett Favre, and McCoy announced, "coach, someday I'll be right up there on the wall with those guys." Holmgren smiled and thought, "Easy, big fella."

During camp, McCoy never let on that his arm was bothering him, but the strength wasn't there. "The deep balls fluttered," he said. "I just kept pushing through it."

In the opener in Tampa, Delhomme suffered a high ankle sprain and gutted out the game. Seneca Wallace replaced him, but also went down with a high ankle sprain in Week 4 against Atlanta. McCoy sidled up to Mangini, hoping he'd put him in, but he opted for the gimpy Delhomme, who re-injured the ankle in the second half and missed the next six weeks.

At the facility on Monday, McCoy figured the Browns were calling quarterbacks. Instead, Mangini told him he'd start that Sunday against the 3-1 Steelers. In Blitzburgh. Against the No. 1 defense in the NFL. Against Troy Polamalu and James Harrison. In Big Ben Roethlisberger's first game back from a suspension.

But McCoy wasn't nervous. "I had waited for that moment all season long," he said.

After the team dinner the night before the game, McCoy addressed the team. In his book, he shared his speech. "Everyone in here is scared stiff about a rookie going into Pittsburgh and having his first start. If you want to be scared, be scared. I'm not scared. I'm ready to play. I'm excited. I'm fired up. . . . Our game tomorrow is going to be the start of something great. . . . The hay is in the barn."

Veteran corner Sheldon Brown shook his head. "I was thinking 'This poor kid. I hope he's ready,' " said Brown. "Then he went out and showed me."

The Browns lost, 28-10, but McCoy showed tremendous poise and mobility, far exceeding expectations.

He went on to lead the Browns to victories over the defending Super Bowl champion Saints and the Patriots, who finished 14-2, and an overtime loss to the playoff-bound Jets. "That four-game stretch led me to believe he could be our guy," said Holmgren.

McCoy later suffered a high ankle sprain of his own and came back at the end of the season, throwing six interceptions the final two games. Although he never admitted it, his arm was still bothering him."'"

In the off-season, McCoy not only let his arm heal, but also organized four "Camp Colts" to prepare the team during the lockout, and spent time working with Favre in Mississippi.

"He should be a fine player in this league for a long, long time," said Holmgren.

McCoy's goal with the Browns is to win a Super Bowl.

"I lost in the state championship in high school and I missed a chance to win the BCS title game," he said. "I definitely have some unfinished business. My hope and dream is to lead the Browns to a championship."

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The only thing that concerns me about Colt is his velocity on throws. Guys are not just chucking it 50+ yards anymore.

The whole "he's small" thing is BS. I can find a LOT of good QBs just an inch taller and are about the same weight.

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Hmmm this is what worries me. All the rest is just feel good fluff.


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I'll say it again...

Keep this kid "Clean" and we will score ALOT...

It's gonna be his Accuracy...Mobility and Brains that will take him there...


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Colt McCoy-Pat Shurmur era begins today
Published: Sunday, September 11, 2011, 5:59 AM Updated: Sunday, September 11, 2011, 6:39 AM
By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer

Browns players and management are optimistic that Colt McCoy and coach Pat Shurmur can turn the team into a winner.

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Today's opener against the Bengals marks the start of the Pat Shurmur-Colt McCoy era, and the Browns will soon know if they've assembled the dynamic duo it takes to build a championship team: A superb coach and quarterback.

"In this league, to win a Super Bowl, you need a great coach and a great quarterback," left tackle Joe Thomas said. "There are very, very few NFL teams who have won without both. You can count them on one hand."

Thomas is confident the Browns have hit pay dirt.

"That's why I want to be here, and that's why I think everybody's really excited," Thomas said.

Browns GM Tom Heckert, who played a huge role in hiring Shurmur, senses this could become the triumphant tandem.

"There's no question in our minds that we've hit on Pat, and we're close to being right with Colt," Heckert said. "Colt so far has shown to be a really good quarterback, and we'll know a lot more this year if we got it right. We have 16 games to see what we have, but I think everybody's really excited around here."

Heckert has been involved with the combos of Don Shula and Dan Marino in Miami, and Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. He believes it takes two to succeed.

"We had a great coach in Jimmy Johnson in Miami, but we didn't have a quarterback," Heckert said. "Dan was there one year and retired, and we struggled. I've been fortunate to be around really good coach/quarterback combinations and hopefully we have that here."

Heckert thinks it's an added bonus for the Browns that their coach and quarterback will work so closely together. Shurmur spent seven seasons as quarterbacks coach in Philadelphia and two years as an offensive coordinator in St. Louis. Shurmur did not hire an offensive coordinator for the Browns and will run the offense himself.

"We think it's ideal because Pat's also calling the plays," Heckert said. "So the guy that we think is right for the job is dealing with the quarterback, who has to be the right guy for the job. We're excited to see what they can do."

Browns President Mike Holmgren, who was part of a championship duo when he coached Brett Favre, is hoping he's struck gold in Shurmur.

"The one thing I've learned about is his command with the players, how he deals with them verbally," Holmgren said. "He'll coach and teach them and get a little mad. In my talks with players, they really like him."

The players have also quickly taken to McCoy, Holmgren said.

"Rarely have I seen veteran players respond as well to a rookie," he said. "It didn't surprise me that the rookie would try and be the leader. He's been trained to do that his whole life. But most of the time, the veteran players blow it off. Joe Montana was a natural leader. Brett Favre is a natural leader, and so is Colt."

Holmgren thinks the West Coast offense, handed down from Bill Walsh to Holmgren to Andy Reid to Shurmur, will be the perfect fit. "It's not rocket science, yet it does take some time to really function in it the best you can," he said. "We have a really young team."

Cornerback Sheldon Brown, who played for Reid in Philly, sees a carbon copy in Shurmur. Reid has led the Eagles to five NFC Championship Games and one Super Bowl.

"Obviously, he wrote every note down out of Andy Reid's book because even some of the verbiage is the same, the sarcasm is the same," Brown said. "It's crazy for me because it's all so familiar. It's like the same guy talking, just a little smaller. I know we can win with this attitude and this system, and if everybody falls in line, I know it works."

Similarly, Brown is high on McCoy.

"He's definitely a leader," Brown said. "The Pittsburgh game last year when he had to go out and play, he wasn't scared. That's one of the toughest defenses in the NFL. Then he beat New Orleans and New England. Go back and look at his aura on the field, his demeanor, and how he carried himself."

But, Brown cautioned: "you're only as good as your weakest link. If they're going to become the duo we all think they can be, [the defense has] to hold up our end of the bargain." web page

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I know it's kind of a fluff piece, but if it's accurate, then basically what I take from it is that McCoy is a determined young man. That's never going to be a bad thing.,


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Hopefully Colt will continue to backup his determination as he has so far. But it's far from proven yet. Man, I hope injuries don't screw this up. I'm looking forward to a fun season.


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And even after all of that, his roster photo looks a little bit like that e-trade baby , which lost his device because riding the dog is frowned upon.

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BROWNS TAB: It starts with McCoy, Shurmur
Published: Saturday, September 10, 2011

By JEFF SCHUDEL
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Fans have been waiting a long time to see what Pat Shurmur and Colt McCoy have put together under that mysterious veil they call the West Coast offense.

It could be argued successfully the wait started when the first Browns franchise left in 1996.

On Sunday in Cleveland Browns Stadium, Shurmur and McCoy will ring the bell to start their first season together – the first of many if Mike Holmgren’s vision as team president is fulfilled.

Shurmur is the first offensive-minded head coach the Browns have had since Sam Rutigliano was hired 33 years ago, excluding the two-year circus when Chris Palmer was head coach in 1999-2000. Palmer was so busy trying to control the chaos of an expansion team he didn’t have time to coach.

What makes this coach-quarterback relationship special is Shurmur not only has a background as a tight ends coach, quarterback coach and offensive coordinator, but he coaches the offense that made McCoy the winningest quarterback in NCAA history. It is a throw first, run second offense based on precise timing between McCoy and his receivers.

“Both of us are learning,” McCoy said. “He’s learning how to be a head coach and I’m learning how to be as good a quarterback as I could be. Together we’re fine. He’s really hard on me, which is good. He expects a lot out of me.”

Holmgren, Shurmur and McCoy all think the same way, like The Three Musketeers. Such a relationship isn’t unique to successful multiple-Super Bowl winning franchises (one in California and one in Pennsylvania, for example), but there is no need to go into detail about those teams here.

This is a new dawn for the Browns. That’s why the anticipation to see what Shurmur and McCoy can do is so high.

“If you’re going to be a team that’s going to score points, you have to be able to throw it and throw it efficiently,” Shurmur said. “I will throw the ball in the red zone for sure.”

How cool is that promise? After Butch Davis and Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini all started playing for field goals five minutes into the first quarter, Shurmur is Mr. Shock and Awe.

Throwing the football efficiently is what McCoy does best. He completed 60.8 percent of his passes in eight starts as a rookie last year. He completed an astounding 70.3 percent of his passes at the University of Texas. That passing accuracy is the key to making the West Coast work.

“I think I’ve come a long way, but I still have plenty of work to do – no question,” McCoy said. “I think this team is ready to start a game plan. This is where it starts counting. We’ve put in a lot of hours. We know the things we’re good at. We know the things we’re not so good at. We’ll keep working on those things.

“It’s important for all of us to understand how this offense works. You have to have the right spacing and you have to catch the football. We’re going to throw it a lot. For me, we need as many reps as we can get. If we miss a throw in practice, I’ll grab the guy and we’ll throw two or three on the same route. Hopefully when game time comes we’ll be sharp.”

The Browns are all in with McCoy – something else that makes this experiment unique. General Manager Tom Heckert could have selected any quarterback in the 2011 draft with the exception of Cam Newton. He could have taken any quarterback in 2010 with the exception of Sam Bradford.

Instead, Heckert and Holmgren took McCoy with the 85th pick in 2010 because they like his leadership, his dogged will to succeed and his work ethic. The passing efficiency is part of the equation. Maybe he doesn’t have the arm strength throw a football through bulletproof glass; as long as he throws it to the receiver before the defender gets there, it is strong enough to make this offense work.

“You have to know your teammates around you,” McCoy said. “Those guys work really hard.

“My job is to move us up and down the field. The things after that I’m always working on, whether that’s communication, trust, not getting too high or too low at times… By no means am I perfect at that, but I continue to try and do my best, because I know quarterback is the position the guys look to and your coaches look to.”

Nothing dampens spirits in a locker room or a practice like inept quarterback play. Not surprisingly, therefore, there have been many discouraging days in the locker room inside team headquarters in Berea since 1999. But there was that one year, 2007, when Derek Anderson had the magic touch and the Browns won 10 games. The locker room was a fun place four years ago.

Sheldon Brown, the starting right cornerback in his second year with the Browns, knows about happy locker rooms and playing with a good quarterback. He played with the Eagles from 2002-2009 and was a teammate of Donovan McNabb’s.

Brown is a veteran who likes to stand back and observe. He hears all the talk about McCoy being the quarterback to lead the Browns out of the desert and smiles.

“He’s only going to be Mr. MVP if all of us hold up our end of the bargain,” Brown said. “It doesn’t matter what numbers he puts up if it doesn’t result in a win for the Browns.

“In order for him to reach superstardom – and that’s anybody – we all have to be in this together and win together. Then all the stars on the football team will come to the front.”

Brown is also uniquely qualified to talk about Shurmur. Shurmur was an assistant coach with the Eagles all but Brown’s final season in Philadelphia. Shurmur left the Eagles in 2009 to be the Rams offensive coordinator.

“He’s a very sharp guy, very detailed,” Brown said. “If you meet him on a personal level and talk to him one-on-one, you want to run through a wall for him. He has that aura about him; you feel bad if you let him down. He trusts you until you give him a reason not to trust you.

“This is my 10th year doing this. I’ve seen him as a quarterback and I’ve seen him put in the hard work. I know how hard he’s worked to get here.”

Shurmur isn’t only the head coach; he’s the Browns offensive coordinator. He and other offensive coaches, including senior assistant offense, Keith Gilbertson and quarterback coach Mark Whipple, collaborate on the game plan.

Shurmur will call plays on Sunday and radio them into McCoy through the little speaker, about the diameter of a quarter, in McCoy’s helmet. To make all that work the head coach has to have a strong relationship with his quarterback.

“We have a relationship where we work together well,” Shurmur said. “The reason I say that is we’ve been teaching him things and he’s been doing it. When he has a mistake, he quickly knows it and we’re able to talk about it. That’s really what you want. It’s not anything more than that. It’s a working relationship and he’s bought in and I feel like it’s been good.”

In other words, Shurmur and McCoy are not fishing buddies, even though each is an avid fisherman. Shurmur is the coach, McCoy is the quarterback and that’s that.

“The relationship is important because what you have to do is continue to communicate,” Shurmur said. “That’s the thing you’re always working on. There’s times where I’m angry, there’s times where either he’s angry at himself or he may be angry at me or whatever.

“All those emotions are there, but for those of us that are married and have a spouse, it’s the same thing. You develop how you communicate and get things done. I think that’s what it is. You’ve got to continue to communicate no matter where you are emotionally.”

Coach-quarterback relationships haven’t lasted long in Cleveland since the Browns returned in 1999. This one has a chance to be different.


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well they always say 3rd times the charm.
1- high school championship Injured loss
2- NCAA National championship game - Injured loss
3 NFL SuperBowl WINNER!!!

Of course I guess we should all be saying he is to injury prone to ever make it and was a waste of a pick.


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well they always say 3rd times the charm.
1- high school championship Injured loss
2- NCAA National championship game - Injured loss
3 NFL SuperBowl WINNER!!!

Of course I guess we should all be saying he is to injury prone to ever make it and was a waste of a pick.




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And even after all of that, his roster photo looks a little bit like that e-trade baby , which lost his device because riding the dog is frowned upon.




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Im snickering post game one...

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How's that going. Decent piece of hype. Hope it is true. But the 4th he looked bad and lost. God luck with the rest of the season.


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These articles make me sick to my stomach.

I'm tired of all the talk ...all the fluff ...year after year after year.

Show me or hit the road.

Although I also have a book coming out later ...Growing Up Rishuz ...you can get it on iTunes in a few weeks. As I'm sure you all can imagine it's a real page turner...LOL.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I have a book coming out too .....

"Why being a Browns fan resembles this icon."


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I was very disgusted with last weeks outing, I've mulled it over and I still think everything will work out with Colt. I sure expected more out of him last week and the few Charlie Frey moments he had worried me, but I think it's growing pains.

It's hard for me to think of him as a rookie. Sure it's his second year but it's his first as the starter.

He tries too hard to make plays when there is nothing open. He seems to HATE losing for any reason. These are traits I want in my QB but I don't know if I care to witness the carnage while he learns.

For now I just hope each week is better.

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were you disgusted w the o-line more? bad o-line play makes any qb look bad

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The OL certainly didn't do anything to make Colt look great but Colt had his share of opportunities to make the OL look better and he didn't take advantage of them. The OL also shot the whole offense in the foot in the first quarter with all the penalties...


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"Growing Up Colt"
please.
His last 3 starts have been flat out horrible,I mean bring back DA and Quinn horrible.
He needs to improve alot and rapidly,or his next book will be "Want Ketchup with those Fries".


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Are you high? DA and Quinn couldn't throw for 2 touchdowns in several games much less in one.

A great game....nope....but far from the worst we've seen over the last few years.

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Are you high? DA and Quinn couldn't throw for 2 touchdowns in several games much less in one.

A great game....nope....but far from the worst we've seen over the last few years.




Exactly, over 200 yds and 2 TDs and people compare him to Quinn or Anderson. Not even close, so much better than them.

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Are you high? DA and Quinn couldn't throw for 2 touchdowns in several games much less in one.

A great game....nope....but far from the worst we've seen over the last few years.




Exactly, over 200 yds and 2 TDs and people compare him to Quinn or Anderson. Not even close, so much better than them.




all stats from: http://www.pro-football-reference.com

I hate doing this because I do think Colt is better than either of those guys, but:

games w/ 200+yds and 2TDs (not counting QB rushing TDs which adds to DAs total)


Quinn - 3 games in 12 starts (0-3 in those games including his 300+yd 4TD game vs. Detroit)

Derek Anderson - 11 games in 34 starts (+2TD-171yd, +3TD-123yd, +2TD-185, +2 more games if you count QB-rushing TDs)

Colt McCoy - 2 games in 9 starts

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So, by those standards, Colt and Quinn have this type of game about once every four starts. Derek Anderson once every three starts (and really once every two starts if you factor in his rushing TDs and his near-misses on the yardage count)

I do not think it is a stretch to compare Colt's performance in week1 to what we saw out of Quinn and Derek Anderson. I do think he will continue to improve though.


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Are you high? DA and Quinn couldn't throw for 2 touchdowns in several games much less in one.

A great game....nope....but far from the worst we've seen over the last few years.




not even the worst against the bengals.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291129004

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=281221005

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I do not think it is a stretch to compare Colt's performance in week1 to what we saw out of Quinn and Derek Anderson. I do think he will continue to improve though.



That's fine, and I'm sure you realize that to use any 1 game as a comparison for anything is going to give you results that can be disputed.

Drew Brees through his first 2 years had 17 starts and he had 4 games with 200+ yards and 2 TDs.. less than 1 in 4....

Sam Bradford has done it 3 times in his 17 starts...

Matt Stafford has done it 5 times in 14 starts...

Flacco did it twice in his first 16 starts...


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yes, which is why I hate using the small sample size and the arbitrary milestone marker.

I just completely disagreed with msmouse who thought it was silly to compare that one particular performance to Quinn/DA and based it on those milestones.


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Bernie Kosar's stats his rookie year 12 games played 10 started. 124 of 248 1578 yards 8 TD's and 7 Int's.

Brian Sipe's rookie stats 10 games played 5 started. 59 of 108, 603 yards 1 TD and 7 int's

Colts Rookie year 8 games 135 of 222 1576 yards 6 TD's and 9 Int's

Yep these are stats and only stats but I like the way they compare. Kosar also didn't really improve as a QB till around the end of a full year 16 starts, and it took Sipe close to 25 starts before everything started to click for him. So would anybody in their right mind be judging Colt after only 10 starts? Lets give the kid at least the rest of this season (in a new offense) before we praise or bash him to much.


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Bernie Kosar's stats his rookie year 12 games played 10 started. 124 of 248 1578 yards 8 TD's and 7 Int's.

Brian Sipe's rookie stats 10 games played 5 started. 59 of 108, 603 yards 1 TD and 7 int's

Colts Rookie year 8 games 135 of 222 1576 yards 6 TD's and 9 Int's

Yep these are stats and only stats but I like the way they compare. Kosar also didn't really improve as a QB till around the end of a full year 16 starts, and it took Sipe close to 25 starts before everything started to click for him. So would anybody in their right mind be judging Colt after only 10 starts? Lets give the kid at least the rest of this season (in a new offense) before we praise or bash him to much.




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There is nothing...it's a correlation-causation brainfart....I can give you a dozens of QB with similar stats that were crap...in fact if you go by % I would bet my house that a very high % of young guys with stats like that end up being backups at best or out of the league

That said, I absolutely want Colt to play the entire year...I just hope we look elsewhere when he still looks the same at year's end....will be interesting for me to compare Colt to Gabbert now that he will most likely start in JAX


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So let me get this right, it's ok for you to use correlation scenarios and you want us to consider/accept them as fact, but if someone else does it, it can't be real?



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Django, you mention backups and stats, so I am interested in hooking some names to your supposition statement. New coach and system, I think he is doing great, and "Camps Colt" he initiated showed leadership to team and ownership of offense. I think he is coming along well in spite of the O line and all.

Besides a few names with whom you are trying to lump him, do the fair thing and share what the production has to be to back him. Seems harsh to let him play and we want to embrace another new QueBee to repeat the process. I think he might look statistically meaningful if not brilliant. Damn all numbers, I just want to see wins fall or way.


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So let me get this right, it's ok for you to use correlation scenarios and you want us to consider/accept them as fact, but if someone else does it, it can't be real?






Why waist your time with his inane rants on McCoy?

In his 'fantasy' world QB's come out of the womb a MVP's or Bust


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So let me get this right, it's ok for you to use correlation scenarios and you want us to consider/accept them as fact, but if someone else does it, it can't be real?






You can rofl all day but that was actually my point....it's stupid either way...but if you have to go by %, it's more likely that a QB that starts out with his stats fails more often than succeed....THAT'S fact

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I cringe every time when it's about "leadership" and "character" with a player...it often means he's not very talented...Ken Dorsey comes to mind (no I'm NOT comparing him to Dorsey)

I have explained my stance on McCoy in numerous other threads....just listen to Shurmur's PC on McCoy: "efficient" and the rest he had to say wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement, he saw what I and many others saw and that's a game manager, he called the game accordingly: ...every time a HC has to do this it means your QB is limited....that often is the case with backups having to start...when you do this with your supposed franchise QB in his 10th start? not so good sign

Anybody think McCoy could have come back the way Freeman did against the Vikings? Marching down the field back to back to back to win a game TB was down 3 scores? Andy Dalton's play callling doesn't look very limited either, he sprays the ball all over the field and looks surprisingly good...he already displays much better pocket awareness than Colt

The stat sheet right now is McCoy's best friend but if you compare his throws and decisions with those around the league, even with young franchise QBs (Freeman, Bradford, Dalton, Stafford, Newton)...he's not even close, sorry...he has to stay perfect to have a "good looking" stat sheet, 1 or 2 errors and it turns ugly quick...gtoh, there's next to no upside he will have dominant games...I just don't see it with him


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So essentially what you're saying is:

1) You don't have confidence that McCoy can be a franchise QB like a Brady or Manning. Maybe an average to above-average, but never that guy who, when we're down by 6 with 2:00 left, you think "yeah, we have a really good chance of tying this up", like you would with those franchise QBs.

2) You'd like nothing better than for McCoy to prove you wrong.

Is that a fair summary?


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on 1: he had a short field against Cincy down by 3, he threw to Mack and looked clueless...yeah, that's not what I think a franchise QB looks like...I already know your next move...the Jets game...it's pretty much everything the McCoy fanboys remember...meanhwile he has another couple hundreds NFL passes in and looks worse....Jets played him soft, thinking a rook has to eventually make a mistake, now DCs have a plan on him...pressure, pressure and more pressure, no deep help...they really have no respect for his deep game

and no, I don't think even his ceiling is AVG NFL QB (my definition of AVG is around 14th-18th best starting QB)...I already see at least 15 QBs he will never be better as (and isn't at the moment we have this discussion)...right now he's bottom 3rd with upside as below AVG in my book

2. Sure, I've said so many times....I'm no Colt basher or anything, I could care less about him...when I play devil's advocate it's because I want the Browns to succeed...if he's part of it and proves me wrong? Great, that would save us a lot of time searching for a franchise QB

I'm really saying nothing different than Toad, he's just putting a nicer spin on it and I just highlight his negatives....we both say his ceiling is Pennington and I've said so many, many times befoer on here...but somehow people get mad with me but agree with Toad...that's funny and just reveals that nobody cares about the points being made


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You can rofl all day but that was actually my point....




Bull,, you got it in for colt,.,, that's as simple as it gets... you won't be satisfied even if he's the MVP of the Super Bowl Champion Cleveland Browns

And that's a FACT


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Anybody think McCoy could have come back the way Freeman did against the Vikings? Marching down the field back to back to back to win a game TB was down 3 scores?



I'm throwing the BS flag. Maybe somebody who is better at finding old posts can find it but just last week you BLASTED McCoy and said you didn't want a QB that fell behind and had to try to race back to win, you BLASTED him because we went 2+ quarters without scoring and our offense was ineffective, you BLASTED him for having to race to overcome a deficit that he created...

Now all of the sudden when Freeman is totally ineffective for the entire first half, allows his team to fall behind by 3 scores, then finally starts to play and comes back, its some kind of heroic event... Colt DID score 17 unanswered points to overcome a deficit but the biggest difference between what Colt did against the Bengals and what Freeman did is that Freeman's defense didn't fall asleep and give the lead away once the offense came back.


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lol, even after he's done it, if you asked me if Freeman could I'd still say No, he can't.

But, yes, I do think that Colt can do it.


In both cases, however, the thing that is generally completely ignored and lost in this type of stupid "what if" speculating is that it take ALL 11 GUYS, not just one.


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He also blasted Colt because against the Bengals he was "unable to put the game away".... so against the Colts with a lead, we get the ball and offense "puts the game away".. but that still isn't a good sign.

Everybody SHOULD still have questions about whether Colt is "the guy" or not to lead us into the future because he's very young and hasn't really proven anything concrete yet..... but to come up with... STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS isn't the best way to make that case.


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The Bengals game was well in hand until the defense took a nap... twice. Damn you, Colt, you're a sucky cornerback!


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