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I don't see the Maualuga appeal.
Flashy, USC big-hype player. That's about it. And like every other highly-touted USC player in recent years, other than Clay Matthews, he's been mediocre at best.
Ah, but a mediocre 2nd rounder is always better than a released 2nd rounder, wouldn't you say?
Not necessarily. Players aren't always released because of their talent level. In this case, perhaps. Would Maualuga have made a lot of sense in the 3-4 we were running at the time? I can't say for sure, but I do know that he's underachieved on a team with better defensive talent than what he'd have had around him here.
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I don't see the Maualuga appeal.
Flashy, USC big-hype player. That's about it. And like every other highly-touted USC player in recent years, other than Clay Matthews, he's been mediocre at best.
Ah, but a mediocre 2nd rounder is always better than a released 2nd rounder, wouldn't you say?
Not necessarily. Players aren't always released because of their talent level. In this case, perhaps. Would Maualuga have made a lot of sense in the 3-4 we were running at the time? I can't say for sure, but I do know that he's underachieved on a team with better defensive talent than what he'd have had around him here.
In which case he'd look pretty good here and we'd have someone valuable and not just kicked to the curb.
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In which case he'd look pretty good here and we'd have someone valuable and not just kicked to the curb.
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seriously,
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Robiskie finally got seperation.hahahha
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Why are you laughing, You just lost the subject of 60% of your posts...
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Was frankly surprised that it took this long and will be surprised if he's claimed on waivers.
When I'm drafting a WR in the first three rounds of a draft he's got to have some sort of dynamic skill set to bring to an offense.
Robiskie had nothing.
I'm not going to rehash old comments but this was a wasted pick. Veikune was a wasted pick and I don't think Massaquoi was a good pick either.
I'm really glad that we have Heckert here and hope this type of player won't be picked highly by this organization again.
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I'm really glad that we have Heckert here and hope this type of player won't be picked highly by this organization again.
So for future referance, You prefer College players who have played 1 year at that position, and didn't play at all the year before they came out...
...Over what was called the "most NFL ready WR" in the draft...?
...Just asking.
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Little over Robo?
Good Lord...I hope Heldawg answers YES to your question.
His whole point is that Heckert hopefully drafts guys based on their TALENT and not on some draft experts' opinions of the player's ability.
Robo was an AWFUL pick...better than Veikune and worse than MoMass...which isn't saying much.
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His whole point is that Heckert hopefully drafts guys based on their TALENT and not on some draft experts' opinions of the player's ability.
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Mangini drafted guys too much on character, and not enough on ability. Just look at that draft. Mack, Momass, Veikune, Robiske. All of them had high character, and great intangibles. Remember Mangini had just traded headaches, edwards and winslow. He was trying to do it the new england way. Only problem, we didn't have tom brady at quarterback.
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His whole point is that Heckert hopefully drafts guys based on their TALENT and not on some draft experts' opinions of the player's ability.
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When I'm drafting a WR in the first three rounds of a draft he's got to have some sort of dynamic skill set to bring to an offense.
Robiskie had nothing.
Little in year 1 is waaaaaaay better than Robo was in his career in Cleveland...even though Little did not play last year.
It is a testament to the wasted Robo pick that a guy who was a RB - and did not play at all last year - is/was so much better than was Robo.
aka hopefully Heckert drafts based on real talent and not some contrived hype.
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I'm really glad that we have Heckert here and hope this type of player won't be picked highly by this organization again.
So for future referance, You prefer College players who have played 1 year at that position, and didn't play at all the year before they came out...
...Over what was called the "most NFL ready WR" in the draft...?
...Just asking.
Just to quote exactly what I said is that when I'm drafting a WR in the first three rounds they have to bring something dynamic to the table.
Little brings a physical component to the game and can break tackles.
Robiskie did a lot of things fairly well in college but none of his skills were plus caliber. I've gone through it before.
I didn't know who Greg Little was until we drafted him and I follow college football fairly closely. When I heard his name I thought who??? but since have been happy with the pick.
If we can get a complement that brings speed to the table I would be a happy camper. We need to at least have competing safeties contemplate backpeddaling once or twice a game. 
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Thats makes sense figuring Briana was on the field 60% of the offensive snaps.
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Little brings a physical component to the game and can break tackles.
Robiskie did a lot of things fairly well in college but none of his skills were plus caliber. I've gone through it before.
There was a guy in the 98 draft, WR, they said he did "everything good, but nothing great"
He was drafted in the 3rd round.
He's Hines Ward.
I'm not disagreeing with you exactly, I'm just saying not everyone coming in the draft has great talent that you can see.
Nah mean?
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Somewhat Just clickin, Robo shows what has been wrong with the franchise for awhile. First, we have had a massive problem with evaluating talent. Robo was not going to be a #2 receiver without being taken under the wing of an established WR to show him and MoMass what it takes to be a receiver in the NFL. Second, Robo could/should have been a slot receiver. Like a younger J.Jurivicius. But of course that leads to the number 3 problem right now, Shurmur not knowing how to utilize the talent he has on the team. Oh well, another entire draft class gone! You cannot build a winner with nothing from years of drafts!! 
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Mangini drafted guys too much on character, and not enough on ability. Just look at that draft. Mack, Momass, Veikune, Robiske. All of them had high character, and great intangibles. Remember Mangini had just traded headaches, edwards and winslow. He was trying to do it the new england way. Only problem, we didn't have tom brady at quarterback.
High character? Did you ever see Robo or Massa fight for a ball? Massa was an underachiever for 3.5years at Georgia with Stafford at the helm and then decided to show something for scouts...he's the same in the NFL....a WR who doesn't want to be "the guy", just another complementary WR and who gives a little effort just when are about to give up on him....he's a tease...both were no. 4 WRs at best, that's what I said when we drafted them and got blasted on here
Oh, and whoever said Robo had no skillset is wrong...Mangini himself pimped both picks by saying how great they are at blocking
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Not to mention that Colt simply failed to make them legit NFL WRs.  Keep it coming...I love it when my point gains clarity at the posting of one who disagrees with me.
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Who said that? Our WR suck too, I know that but which part of "there's enough stuff to evaluate every player on their own" didn't you get? and which part of me listing QB and WR as #1 and #2 need didn't you get? Our WR sucking doesn't make Colt's passes, decision making, pocket awareness better....shortcomings of other positions is all Colt apologetics can come up with...stop it already, it's stupid really
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Anyway Robo was a finished product when we drafted him. Hate to see another draft pick walking out the door but the dude just never gave effort.
Im thinking that Robo BELIEVED he was a finished product, and never thought he had to get better...thoughts?
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Wow,,really?
Robo waived?
Why oh why?
Maybe because he's only a guy U bring in for camp fodder..he was not bad at OSU but I was never in the camp that he was that high of a prospect..he clearly couldn't do anything much..that said it was one of the worse picks of 09..
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Wasn't Dane Sanzenbacher just as good as Robiske coming out of college? He didn't even get drafted.
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Wasn't Dane Sanzenbacher just as good as Robiske coming out of college? He didn't even get drafted.
Yep, But Dane is doing very well in Chicago, I was hoping we'd sign him.
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j/c
I always knew he was overrated. Ever since we were both 15.
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Yep, But Dane is doing very well in Chicago, I was hoping we'd sign him.
I don't have the link handy - but I think he has 19 catches in 7 games. 3 td's. Avg. reception of over 9 yds.
Can't complain about from an undrafted rookie. A guy that was "too slow", "too small", and a "product of his college system".
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Wait... What do you mean? He's still in the NFL? No that won't due... He hasn't even filled out his Kroger application yet!
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I bet that he helps the Jags ..... even though he couldn't get a pass thrown his way here.
Kinda funny that Heckert raved about Robiske in the offseason ...... then we never threw him the ball.
Oh well. Time to move on and hope that we do something someday in the passing game.
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just because the Jags signed Robiskie doesn't validate him. Sims-Walker was put on IR.....they need a practice body.
Robot Brian offers no skills that make you go wow...
Jack Del Rio is on his way out anyhow...so with the next coach will jettison the Marco's Pizza spokesperson.
In fact,J-ville has made very few personel moves that equates to a team with a losing record...
when a player goes from a sub.500 team to another what does that say?
the Jags are the same team that got of a rid of a saftey in a trade who playing darn near All-Pro level for his new team.
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When a player is waived by a losing team and goes on waivers to another losing team it means that the 2nd team put in a rather high claim on him ..... that's what it means. Jacksonville was somewhere around 7-10 in waiver wire claim order.
I am curious as to whether any other teams put in a claim on him as well.
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The best(worst) part about it, and I'm not saying this is going to happen, is Robiskie could come out with Jacksonville and start catching 3rd downs, and TDs consitantly...
And all the Robo haters will do is use it to somehow validate their argument.
I've expressed my opinion on McCoy, I'm pretty much done with him, but you don't see me throwing out personal attacks like some do. I just don't understand that... If they're on your team, they're on your team... Besides Edwards, who showed a propensity for a certain attitude, I just don't understand hating guys while they are on your team...
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When a player is waived by a losing team and goes on waivers to another losing team it means that the 2nd team put in a rather high claim on him ..... that's what it means. Jacksonville was somewhere around 7-10 in waiver wire claim order.
Good point.
I wish him luck in Jacksonville / LA 
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It would have had to be a few weeks back as the deadline has passed.
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Possibly, but every team in the league knew that we had to free up a roster spot one way or another, so they might've been hesitant to give anything up for a guy who was likely to be cut anyway. That and the whole passed deadline thing.
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I wonder if Heckert attempted to trade Robiskie before waiving him?
Possibly, but every team in the league knew that we had to free up a roster spot one way or another, so they might've been hesitant to give anything up for a guy who was likely to be cut anyway. That and the whole passed deadline thing.
You mean that thier crystal balls told them that Hardesty was going to go down
There wasn't a reason two weeks ago for any team to assume we needed to clear a spot..
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Possibly, but every team in the league knew that we had to free up a roster spot one way or another, so they might've been hesitant to give anything up for a guy who was likely to be cut anyway. That and the whole passed deadline thing.
You mean that thier crystal balls told them that Hardesty was going to go down
There wasn't a reason two weeks ago for any team to assume we needed to clear a spot..
I think it should have been obvious that Robiskie wasn't in our future plans, especially with Cribbs being in the top 3 of the rotation.
I thought (had a hunch) that they might try to shop him before the Titans game and the trade dead line.
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Good for Robo.
While not a fan, good for him.
My hope is he has bought a moderately priced nice home....in the 300k range and paid it off and stuck a few bucks in the bank to boot.
For us normal folks, think how not paying $1200 a month for 20-30 years for a nice home in the burbs couldn't be viewed as a life altering moment.
My life has been pretty darn good but it would have been a whole lot better had I not had to send $1000 + a month for 15 years.
He should be starting out WAY ahead of the curve.
I have a feeling he got it right....I hope so at least.
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