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This is really getting embarrassing.

yea.. i thought it was interesting that Mack did that.. guess Mack and Thomas were in on it..

also.. i dont know why his teammates are making such a big deal of him throwing the ball with the 3rd string QB.. one of the news channels showed hillis throwing the ball pretty hard. I guess that explains what he was doing. I mean what else should he have been doing? he wasn't playing anyway.

I got killed for saying Hillis isn't as good as we made him out to be before the season.

1 hit wonder.

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Browns running back Peyton Hillis appeared to re-injure his hamstring in practice today on a run up the middle.

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Practice, practice we talking bout practice. Come on man.

Im going to work this Sunday.

Here's to hoping Obgannoya Has a huge week! Hillis has killed me in fantasy..Picked up OB for insurance a couple weeks back..

Hillis shouldn't worry about the Madden curse, the Browns have been snake bit as a team. I mean just think about what this team has endured in just 8 weeks of football.

Moore concussion and Hammy
watson had the hip, hammy and concussion
Mitchell broken finger
Cribbs had the hammy
Hillis had strep and hammy
Hardesty calf
Mo had the foot injury then concussion and also a hammy injury
Mack appendix
Norwood had something
the other RB we lost for the season forgot his name at the moment
Lauvao knee injury
Pashos ankle
Joe Thomas playing through injured elbow

Hmm wonder why our O is struggling

Hell on D we have had
Gocong stinger problems since camp
Fujita has had concussion and was it his back?
Maiava knee injury but has played
Sheldon brown ankle and hammy
Haden had strained knee
Young missed all of camp with something
Benard tried to kill himself on a spyder
Ventrone and the linebacker Brown have battled injuries since camp

Hell throw in the 2 kickers we lost due to injury lol

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Heckert conceded on Thursday that “the guys we did sign [to big contracts], those are the guys we feel are ultimate team guys who want to be here.”

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Hillis is gone.

i think the 2 sides are so far apart that the only solution is to play out the season. Hillis is hurt so he's not able to play awesome to earn a big payday. This is where his attitude gets crappy.

At the end of the season he will test free agency, and the browns can make an offer based on that...for all we know at that point the browns offer might look sweet. Hillis will either re-sign or move on.

No it isn't. However it takes one "bad egg" to cause a lot of dissension. I've seen what one person can do to a good operation first hand at my job. I know a meat shop and an NFL team arent the same, but bear with me on this.

I work as a meat cutter for a grocery chain, and for a couple years now, we've been the pride of the zone, meetings are held at our store so the higher ups can "show off" our operations. Recently, one of our cutters received a well deserved promotion.

His replacement is well known as a slacker/trouble maker. In 5 short weeks, a smooth operation has turned into 2 factions, 5 of us who are trying like hell to keep our standard, and the rest who have latched on to the new guy's lazy ideal. Now anytime one of us asks someone in the new guys camp to help us, or pretty much do anything in general, it's attitude city. To the point we cant even ask them to their job properly.

So, the 5 of us are frustrated by the extra hours we put in to keep it together, and the others are getting even more mad that we are frustrated with them. Morale went from sky high to 0 in a few weeks. The ONLY difference is that one person. If Hillis' attitude went from good to bad, he could be making an influence on all the other dissenters, which can't be pinned on Shurmur.

It only takes one turd to ruin the whole bowl of punch.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned that Hillis has had significant hammy issues in the past.

He is done in Cleveland unless he signs an incentive-laden deal and cleans up his attitude.

I honestly think that Hillis is struggling with the fact that he got hurt, first and foremost. I think that is the biggest problem, and he is really struggling with how to handle it.

This is what caused people to start piling on him to start with. I would guess that the piling on effect is what started further degradation of his attitude. Then to be able to return to practice, only to get hurt again ..... well he's got to be frustrated beyond words.

I also think that he needs a better agent to speak for him on these matters. The guy had strep, and didn't play. He had lost significant weight from the reports in the paper and such. There's nothing there except for incompetent handling of the situation by his agent.

Now the proverbial molehill has become the mountain. The front office is all but calling him out, and out most significant weapon of a year ago is now almost certainly gone after this year. This whole thing has been handled really badly by just about every involved party.

Oh well ... complete rebuilds ain't so bad. I'm used to it by now.

Yeah, I didn't mention the factors toward his attitude. (Totally agree btw, mismanagement on all fronts) I was just trying to draw a comparison on how one person's bad attitude can rub off on others, regardless of how good/bad management (Shurmer) is. Not one to live in the past at all, but I wonder how differently Coach Mangini would have handled this.

I think that Mangini would have come out right off the bat and said "Hillis has strep throat and will be unable to play this weekend. We have every expectation that he will return next week."

End of story.

I do not think that Shurmur handled this well at all.

I have no idea what the devil is going on... I am still a Hillis fan .. I think the press here sucks for starters ( I say that every season / consistent ) .. The guy is hurt , he is hurt . Contract or no contract , I'm willing to bet the young man wants to be on the field playing ..

You heard it here 1st. Hillis gets healthy and racks up 700 yards during the last six games of the season and we resign him before free agency

I wonder what else is going on behind the scenes?

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_peyton_hillis_9.html

Cleveland Browns weary of Peyton Hillis drama, prepared to let him go after season, sources say

By: Mary Kay Cabot

BEREA, Ohio — The Browns are near the end of their rope with running back Peyton Hillis and are prepared to let him walk in free agency after this season, NFL sources said.

At this point, it would take a dramatic turnaround in behavior and production for Hillis to persuade the Browns to re-sign him when he becomes a free agent in March.

"It's one thing after another, and what's been out there isn't even the half of it," one source said.

And now, Hillis is expected to miss at least a couple of more games after re-injuring his hamstring in practice Friday afternoon. Hillis had an MRI on Friday, and it showed a significant strain to his left hamstring. Hillis got hurt in the first 15 minutes of practice, which was open to the media.

On a run up the middle, Hillis came up limping and grabbed the back of his left leg. In dramatic fashion, he spiked the ball and then whipped his helmet to the ground.

Hillis limped off the field and stood hunched over in pain. Then he spent time talking to a trainer with his head down and his hands on his hips. Within a few minutes, he limped halfway toward the fieldhouse, stopped and was examined by the trainers.

He's listed as questionable on the official injury report but is not expected to play Sunday in Houston. Chris Ogbonnaya will replace him in the starting lineup, and newly signed Thomas Clayton will serve as a third-down back.

"I'm sure if [Hillis] can't play this week, he'll be frustrated by that, but the key is to do everything in his power to get healthy so he can play," said coach Pat Shurmur.

After everything that's transpired with Hillis this season, some of the players weren't sure what to make of the dramatic display. "But the injury is legit," a source said.

Browns quarterback Seneca Wallace confirmed a report on Yahoo Sports and in The Plain Dealer that the players are tired of some of Hillis' antics. Michael Silver of Yahoo Sports first reported that some of the players talked to Hillis on Wednesday about his recent actions. A source told The Plain Dealer that it was the Browns' "regular leadership group," which includes Hillis. They stayed after their meeting with Shurmur to confront and support Hillis.

The players were annoyed that Hillis spent most of pregame warm-ups in San Francisco -- despite being ruled inactive for the second straight week with the hamstring -- throwing passes from midfield to the crossbar alongside third-string quarterback Thad Lewis.

"It was a bad look," one veteran Browns player told Silver. "And it did not sit well with any of us."

Said Wallace: "Yes, it did get on some people's nerves that he was throwing balls when he was injured. But at the end of the day, it's his last name on the back of his jersey, and he has to decide how he wants to represent himself."

Wallace also confirmed a report by The Plain Dealer that players were upset Hillis went to Arkansas to get married last Tuesday instead of coming in for treatment. He practiced Wednesday and then sat out the rest of the week, including the Niners game. For comparison's sake, cornerback Joe Haden underwent eight hours of treatment on his knee some days to get ready for the Seattle game Oct. 23.

"Of course we're going to be a little upset if Peyton's not in there getting his treatment," said Wallace. "We're a team, and we rely on each other. But if he felt he wanted to go get married that day, that's his business. You never really know what a person is going through. You don't know what type of influences a person might have. I don't know the stuff that Peyton has going on in his life."

Wallace acknowledged that Hillis doesn't seem to be the same person he was last season when he rushed for 1,177 yards and 11 touchdowns.

"I think everybody's noticed a little bit of a change in him, but he could have some family issues or something," said Wallace. "Maybe his priorities have changed. We have a whole new staff, so a lot of things have changed. Maybe some of it's overblown."

A source said Hillis was recently late to a team meeting on top of his other erratic behaviors. On Monday night, he missed a scheduled appearance at the Boys and Girls Club of Cleveland's Halloween party and issued an apology Wednesday. He attributed it to not receiving the right information from his brother and business manager, Kyle Hillis, and not realizing the importance of the event. He also promised to make it up.

Hillis' star-crossed season began with unsuccessful negotiations to extend his contract -- negotiations which broke off recently. Browns President Mike Holmgren said recently the Browns would try to re-sign Hillis in free agency, but that's now in serious doubt. Then came the strep throat that led him to miss the Dolphins game in Week 3 upon the advice of his agent. A league source confirmed some players did not appreciate Hillis listening to his agent and taking himself out before the game. By the time he missed the San Francisco game, some wondered just how hurt he really was -- especially watching him launch those passes from midfield.

One veteran Browns player told Silver: "I've never seen anything like it. Last year, Peyton was such a positive, inspirational force on our team -- but now he's like a different guy. It's like he's in a funk that he can't get out of, and it's killing us, because we really need him. And we've told him that. But we're at the point where we just don't know what to do."

Another confided he thinks Browns management failed to support Hillis at a time when he's apparently mentally fragile.

Another said: "The organization is not going to reward a guy they think is moping or acting out or going about it the wrong way, just out of principle, and because of the message it sends to younger guys. And I totally understand that."

Browns General Manager Tom Heckert told Yahoo Sports, "The guys we did sign [to big contracts], those are the guys we feel are ultimate team guys who want to be here."

I would imagine there is a lot of stuff going on behind closer doors that is pissing off players and management, Hillis doesn't seem like a bad guy but for someone who has been hurt he is getting a TON of criticism... Trying to play running back with a bad hamstring isn't possible.

I don't blame not wanting to pay a glorified Fullback

J/C,

This all just sux, because now we can add RB to our long list of needs.

1 hit wonder ... At least for us *sigh*

Not sure it's posted, but the PD is reporting that Hillis has been downgraded to out of Sundays game.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_rb_peyton_hil_15.html

Yeah .... when it came right out of Cribbs' own mouth that he was done being a member of the Cleveland Browns, and would never play for them again ...... well that was fine ...... but Hillis gets strep throat and pulls a hamstring and he's a bad guy.

Andre Johnson has been out for 5 weeks with a hamstring injury. Hillis was out for a couple, and tried to come back. He got hurt again in practice, and was so upset that he slammed the ball, and his helmet in frustration.

That doesn't say to me "This guy just doesn't care". In fact, it says that he cares, and is frustrated by the way things have gone this year. It says to me that he is frustrated that he got hurt again/more.

Or he's frustrated that he got hurt before he got paid.

This guy has turned out to be the exact thing he professed not to be. He's a lemon. He tried to mascaraed as hard-working, honest, and humble football player and he failed to live up to it. He deserves all of the media pressure for all the stupid acts he's done. What I'm really interested in is the stuff that isn't being spoken of.

Akron Joe you were right at this point I would take a Ham Sandwich over him.

Right. This comment from Mary Kay makes me think he is just acting like a complete tool:

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"It's one thing after another, and what's been out there isn't even the half of it," one source said.

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