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This has to be the most disturbing story, I've ever read relating to sports. How does this guy get caught raping a 10 yr old boy in 2002, and nobody did nothing about it.?? The guy went on to rape more boys allegedly, years later. If true, I would want all individuals involved fired from penn state.


Penn State head coach Joe Paterno, responding to the scandal that has overtaken his university and his program, said in a statement released Sunday that he acted appropriately with the information he had in 2002 regarding child sexual abuse allegations against his former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky.

"If true, the nature and amount of charges made are very shocking to me and all Penn Staters," Paterno said. "While I did what I was supposed to with the one charge brought to my attention, like anyone else involved I can't help but be deeply saddened these matters are alleged to have occurred."

Sandusky, who retired from coaching in 1999 after 32 years on Paterno's staff, was arrested Saturday on 40 charges that include felony sex crimes against children. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university vice-president Gary Schultz have been charged with felony perjury in their grand jury testimony in the case, as well as failure to report to law enforcement what they knew about Sandusky's behavior.

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Paterno While I did what I was supposed to with the one charge brought to my attention, like anyone else involved I can't help but be deeply saddened these matters are alleged to have occurred.
” -- Penn State coach Joe Paterno

Paterno wasn't charged, and the grand jury report didn't implicate him in wrongdoing. His son Scott, an attorney who helped his father draft the statement, said in a phone interview Sunday evening that his father didn't know the severity of the alleged crimes until he read the grand jury's findings Saturday.

"When he read the presentment and called me, he could barely speak," Scott Paterno said.

"It was like a punch in the gut."

When asked about the sex-abuse charges outside his home in Pennsylvania on Sunday, Sandusky told ABC News he was advised by his attorney not to talk.

According to the statement released Saturday by Pennsylvania attorney general Linda Kelly, the grand jury found that in March 2002, a then-graduate assistant (Mike McQueary, a former Nittany Lions quarterback who is now a fulltime assistant), witnessed Sandusky sexually assaulting an underage boy in the showers in the Lasch Football Building. According to Kelly, the graduate assistant went to Paterno's home "to explain what he had seen."

But Paterno said in his statement that McQueary had not been specific with him.

"As my grand jury testimony stated," Joe Paterno said in the statement, "I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators."

Sandusky on ABCNews.com

ABCNews.com In an on-camera Q&A with ABC News reporters that aired on World News with David Muir, Jerry Sandusky deferred questions about the sex-abuse charges to his attorney. Story

Sandusky retired with tenure, and, as such, came under the supervision of Schultz. Paterno referred the matter to Curley, his superior.

"Unfortunately," Scott Paterno said, "once that happened, there was really nothing more Joe felt he could do because he did not witness the event. You can't call the police and say, 'Somebody tells me they saw somebody else do something.' That's hearsay. Police don't take reports in that manner. Frankly, from the way he understood the process, he passed the information on to the appropriate university official and they said they were taking care of it. That's really all he could do."

The attorney general also discussed a 1998 police report involving Sandusky and inappropriate behavior with children. No charges were brought. Sandusky retired the next year to devote his time to the Second Mile, a charity he founded to help children. Sandusky also raised many foster children.

The two events were unrelated, Scott Paterno said, because his father knew nothing about the police report. A recent request to read it was denied by the university. Sandusky retired with great fanfare.

"Does anybody really think," Scott Paterno said, "that if (the university) thought he was a child rapist, they would have given him a farewell tour?" Nevertheless, hindsight has left Joe Paterno and his wife Sue in anguish.

"Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential," Joe Paterno said in his statement. "The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers."

Paterno first met Curley, a 57-year-old native of State College, when the future athletic director was in his teens. His indictment, Scott Paterno said, has left his father "shocked and saddened" as well.

"This has been as hard on Joe as anything I've ever seen him endure in the sense of, trying to come to grips with, 'How did this happen?'" Scott Paterno said. "... When he was first told this (in 2002), he was 75. This was so far from what he could possibly conceive of. You come back to him now, he's 84. It's so outside of what he can even imagine.

"This guy grew up in a Norman Rockwell painting and wanted to live in one in State College," Scott Paterno said about his father. "The sad reality is, even in Norman Rockwell paintings, there's the back side of the painting. It's just a very dark, ugly thing that happened around us that we didn't see."

http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations/_/i...were-all-fooled

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/11/06/sports/ncaafootball/20111106-pennstate-document.html

That whole situation makes me sick to my stomach.

I really and strongly believe in the death penalty for those who sexually abuse young kids like that. Then I hope that they get a special section of hell reserved just to torment them for all eternity.

It makes me angry that the one assistant witnessed it on school property, yet nothing was done about it, and the guy went on to rape more boys later on. If I would've seen something like that, I'm going to the kids parents, the police, I would make sure this guy goes to jail. Yet the first person he contacts is paterno, who then talks to the athletic director. Unbelievable.

Kind of makes getting tattoos for football memorabilia look like small pebbles in a field of boulders.

This is horrible. The thing that really angers me is that nobody called the police. The kid that probably saw it was terrified of being black-balled for doing so.

Sickening.

If it was me, I would certainly hope I had the stones to confront him in the act in order to stop it ... even if you pretended to stumble into the scene and then just said "WTF are you doing?". I don't think I could forgive myself for leaving that boy in that situation.

not to mention you as a witness are a victim too. Not nearly as much as the young boy, but the image of what you saw will probably never leave your mind. That will scar you for life.

As an aside, his son is the Browns' director of player personnel.

Sickening.

I keep asking myself, why would anyone be interested in a little child... I just don't understand the attraction.

Hang them all....

I see why it happened. He didn't want to lose his job, so he let the guy raping a 10 year old continue to rape other 10-12 year olds.

Let me first say "allegedly", if all of this allegedness is true, putting aside everyone else for a moment - this has got to be the end of Joe Paterno as the head coach at Penn State. Correctly or incorrectly, he's at the least 1-A in perception of power at Penn State and the fact that he continued with business as usual for at least the last 9 years is lunacy. How can a parent send his/her kid to Happy Valley under the watchful eye of Joe Paterno now? How can he be trusted at all in any circumstance involving the care of children - let alone lead them, which arguably he hasn't even done that for years.

I was watching KDKA last night and I agree with several of the guys that were on the "Cochran Sports Showdown" who said Paterno deserves he right to resign - but that resignation has to be announced early this week. He's done an awful lot of good over his tenure, but this one thing is an awful lot of bad - and he as the figurehead of the university has to own it.

Clearly Sandusky needs to be locked up for a very long time. Aside from him but not limited to these others, it's a "got's to go situation"... Tim Curley, Gary Shultz and Penn State President Graham Spanier. It's a systemic failure over the course of a decade - it's simply a "got's to go" situation for them all.

What happened at Penn State is different than OSU, or USC, or Toledo with the point shaving scandal - those were problems on the field involving players who played and coaches who coached... this is a legal matter of a coverup of horrendous acts against children from top to bottom. I don't think any of this leads to, or should lead to, a reduction of scholarships or postseason bans - it simply should result in the termination of everyone and incarceration of many.

Such a shame.

I agree 100%. I expect Jo Pa to announce his resignation effective at seasons end. This definitely tarnishes his legacy.

JoePa reported it and the dude was gone. There's no tarnish on his legacy.

The fact that the piece of crap retired w/ tenure makes me mad though. Of course how much more MAD can you get when you're talking about a friggin' scumbag pedophile?

The fact that no one followed up on it is disturbing. He knew that this guy raped a kid on school property, yet this guy wasn't arrested until 9 yrs later. Wouldn't you be curious, why this guy hasn't been arrested?? The hell with the athletic director, Joe needed to get into contact with police asap. A damn crime was committed.

I'm sorry, but some people, myself included, TRUST their superiors to take over a bigger situation. I honestly think Patterno's notoriety is drawing people's anger in the wrong direction here. . .

Penn State AD, school VP leave posts

Updated: November 7, 2011, 11:08 AM ET

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Two top Penn State officials charged with covering up allegations of an explosive child-sex abuse scandal related to former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky vacated their positions Sunday after an emergency meeting of the university's Board of Trustees.

Penn State athletic director Tim Curley requested to be placed on administrative leave so he could devote the time needed to defend himself against perjury and other charges, university president Graham Spanier said. Gary Schultz, vice president for finance and business, will step down and go back into retirement, Spanier said. He declined to comment to reporters after the meeting.

Resignations of famed football coach Joe Paterno and Spanier were not discussed at the meeting, which was arranged Sunday and lasted two hours, university spokesman Bill Mahon said.

Curley and Schultz were charged Saturday after a grand jury investigation of Sandusky, who has charged with sexually abusing eight boys over 15 years. Lawyers for all three men have said their clients are innocent.

Sandusky, once considered Paterno's heir apparent, retired in 1999 but continued to use the school's facilities for his work with The Second Mile, a foundation he established to help at-risk kids. Curley and Schultz are accused of failing to alert police -- as required by state law -- of their investigation of the allegations.

"This is a case about a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys," state attorney general Linda Kelly said Saturday.

In a statement, The Second Mile said that to "our knowledge, all the alleged incidents occurred outside of our programs and events." The group also said it never was made aware of the allegations against Sandusky in the grand jury report.

Kelly and state police commissioner Frank Noonan are expected to hold a 1 p.m. ET news conference Monday a few miles from the Harrisburg district court. The arraignment of both Curley and Schultz is scheduled for 2 p.m. ET.

Paterno, who last week became the coach with the most wins in Division I football history, wasn't charged, and the grand jury report didn't appear to implicate him in wrongdoing.

In a statement issued Sunday night, Paterno said he was shocked, saddened and as surprised as anyone to hear of the charges.

"If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers," Paterno said in a statement issued by his son, Scott.

Curley was named athletic director on Dec. 30, 1993. Senior associate athletic director Mark Sherburne will serve as interim athletic director until Curley's legal situation is resolved, board chairman Steve Garban said.

Schultz served as senior vice president and treasurer from 1993 to 2009. He returned to the job this year to fill in until someone else could be found. The Board of Trustees named a child care center on campus after Schultz in January 2010.

The allegations against Sandusky, who started The Second Mile in 1977, range from sexual advances, to touching, to oral and anal sex. The young men testified before a state grand jury that they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred; there is evidence even younger children may have been victimized. Sandusky's attorney Joe Amendola said his client has been aware of the accusations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

A preliminary hearing scheduled for Wednesday likely would be delayed, Amendola said. Sandusky is charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault.

The first case to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday.

But the report also alleges much earlier instances of abuse and details failed efforts to stop it by some who became aware of what was happening.

Another child, known only as a boy about 11 to 13, was seen by a janitor pinned against a wall while Sandusky performed oral sex on him in fall 2000, the grand jury said.

And in 2002, Kelly said, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in a team locker room shower. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.

Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said.

There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy or follow up with the witness, she said.

Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely 'horsing around,' " the 23-page grand jury report said. But he also testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Spanier of the matter.

The grand jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible.

Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used.

But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the shower in 2002," the jurors wrote. "No one from the university did so."

The board chairman said Sunday that he would appoint a task force to conduct an independent review of the university's policies and procedures related to the protection of children.

University representatives released a statement from Spanier on Saturday calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding that Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.

He predicted they will be exonerated.

"I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," Spanier said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

obstruction of justice

Um, hello, you're on a message board.

It's not like anyone is reading this forum anyway.

The 23 page grand jury report is publicly available currently on the internet if you're interested.

It is not for the faint of heart and is the what I would consider to be the definition of damning.

Oh man, this is terrible.

I can't imagine the signs OSU fans will have in 2 weeks.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf

It is....for the victims , having to go through that and having to go through it again, and For Sandusky as well. It makes you wonder how some people end up with warped personalities such as that. How does one end up with such a twisted sexual libido?? No doubt some twisting in the genetic code.

It wouldn't surprise me if Sandusky decides it best to just fall on the sword.

While I loath the actions, it's hard for me to say I hate people like that since my feeling is there is something pretty twisted in their brain.

Something isn't working right.

It's possible that he was abused that way as a child.

In my opinoin some people are just sick. Those people have no place on this earth.

I agree. There are certain lines you just don't cross. I don't trust a bunch of drunk college students not to cross it though. I hope the OSU administration takes steps to prevent it.

It also sucks from the perspective of just a big ten fan that this game between OSU and PSU is going to have this dark cloud over it, because otherwise, it's a HUGE game with B10 championship ramifications.

Not to mention OSU is in their own hot water, which looks meager after hearing this, but doesn't make them innocent.

Sucks.

I have no sympathy for the man.

I just read an article that said this man was on penn state's campus just last week. It just amazes me the penn state officials, and joe pa, didn't have the guts to stand up to this man, and face the problem. From Paterno to the athletic director, it was a case of passing the buck. Let's hope it goes away, I don't want to handle it, you take care of it. When you have a breakdown in your system like they did, it's obvious these guys shouldn't be in the positions they possess. These guys are suppose to be leaders, able to make the right decisions. They just proved to me, they are gutless cowards, putting their back, and university, in front of innocent young boys.


he was the last victim, that we know of, to come forward.

But in many ways, he was the first.

He was one of the first with enough courage to say something. To stick around for three years while police and a grand jury talked to dozens of people and combed through thousands of documents.

To hang on emotionally.

To take a stand against a Goliath. A legend. A man that some saw as a god.

He was the first to be believed. Authorities even call him Victim One.

The mother of the Clinton County boy is telling her family story. It’s a story that launched a three-year grand jury investigation that resulted in sexual assault charges against former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, allegedly involving eight boys.

“I’m very proud of him,” the mother said of her son, on the brink of adulthood and at the heart of what some are calling the biggest scandal in college sports.

“He’s a brave kid,” she said. “And his major concern in the whole thing was for anybody else. That was his big thing. He said, ‘I just don’t want this to happen to anybody else.’”

And now he knows that he’s not alone.

Ten years before he came forward, another child, now 24, had also spoken up. He wasn’t believed. Allegations he made against Sandusky about touching during a shared shower at Penn State in 1998 never resulted in charges.

Sandusky, through his attorney, denies all the charges. Attorney Joe Amendola, said Sandusky attributes the allegations to troubled kids who are acting out.

“I’m so upset,” said the mom of the 24-year-old, who authorities are calling Victim Six. “My son is extremely distraught, and now to see how we were betrayed, words cannot tell you. To see that Graham Spanier is putting his unconditional support behind Curley and Shultz when he should be putting his support behind the victims, it just makes them victims all over again.”

She’s talking about the perjury and failure-to-report charges filed against former Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and resigned Vice President of Business and Finance Gary Schultz.

Prosecutors allege the administrators ignored a 2002 report from a graduate assistant — identified by sources as Mike McQueary — that he saw Sandusky having sex with a young boy in a shower.

McQueary, now an assistant coach for the Nittany Lions football team, went to his father first, then to coach Joe Paterno.

“I don’t even have words to talk about the betrayal that I feel,” said the mom of Victim Six. “[McQueary] was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?”

As media from around the country descended on Happy Valley on Monday to dig into the allegations and the details of a possible cover-up, the two mothers decided to talk to The Patriot-News.

Both said they don’t want their sons’ stories to get lost in the scandal.

Victim One

Victim One met Sandusky through the Second Mile — a charity for needy children that Sandusky started — and quickly got drawn into his world of big-time college football: gifts, trips, sporting events, and hanging out with a guy who seemed to be loved by everyone.

But his mother said it came at a price.

The Patriot-News will not identify either women or their sons in keeping with our policy not to name victims of sexual assault. The mother of Victim One specifically asked that other media respect her request for no more interviews.

She brought the psychologist who has been helping her son cope with the trauma to the interview.

Almost from day one, psychologist Michael Gillum has met regularly with the boy and counseled him through the protracted police investigation.

A few weeks before her son broke down and confessed to a principal at Central Mountain High School in Clinton County that he was being molested by Jerry Sandusky — a volunteer football coach at his high school — his mother began to suspect something was wrong.

First, it was because her son was acting out. When she grounded him, she said Sandusky demanded he be able to “take care of it.”

“I said, ‘No way, he’s my kid,’” she said.

Then, her son began asking her about an online database for “sex weirdos.”

“You don’t want to just accuse people of that,” the mother said. “I called the school principal and the guidance counselor and said, if nothing else, he’s taking my son out of classes. He’s leaving the school with him. ... So I asked them to call him into the office and ask [my son] how he felt.

“They did call him to the office that day and I remember [the principal] was in tears and she said, ‘You need to come here right away.’”

Her son, then 15, broke down and told them what happened.

“They told me to go home and think about what I wanted to do, and I was not happy,” she said. “They said I needed to think about how that would impact my son if I said something like that. I went home and got [my son] and we came to [Children and Youth Services] immediately.”

Officials at Central Mountain High School have said they immediately reported the abuse, and Attorney General Linda Kelly praised them for doing the right thing.

The boy’s story would evolve over the next few weeks as he was interviewed by police. That’s not atypical for sex cases involving teens, Gillum said.

“It’s essentially peeling back the layers of an onion,” Gillum said. “Because it’s so humiliating. It’s so much mental anguish. ... They typically want you to know something inappropriate happened, then there was a progression where boundaries were violated.”

But sometimes it takes time for the victim to get it all out.

That’s something Sandusky’s attorney Joe Amendola points to in defense.

He said it appears someone coaxed this victim into embellishing his story because it changed from groping to more graphic sex acts.

Gillum called it a typical defense tactic.

"They will imply ... that I must have led the witness,” he said. “But when you’re specialized in children and adolescent child abuse, you’re trained to make sure you wouldn’t compromise the evidence.”

Victim Six

Victim Six cried when he read the 23-page grand jury presentment released Saturday, his mother said. And not for himself.

“He had no idea how bad it was,” she said. “He was lucky. He only had that one contact with him.”

It allegedly happened in May 1998, following a tour of the football locker rooms. Her son and another boy, both 11, shared a shower with Sandusky.

When he got home he said, ‘If you’re wondering why my hair is wet, we took a shower together,’ and ran into his room, his mom recalls.

She called police.

But after a six-week investigation that included the mother confronting Sandusky in her home as police listened in the other room, Sandusky was cleared.

Then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decided there wasn’t enough evidence.

“And you’re going to tell me that Spanier and Paterno weren’t informed of something that was that huge that Ray Gricar was in on it but Spanier was kept in the dark?” she said. “I’m just not that stupid. I’m so upset I just can’t believe it.”

Paterno’s son, Scott, has said that lawyers for Penn State assured him his father was never told about the 1998 report — investigated by university police.

It’s unclear from the presentment if Spanier knew. However, Schultz, who was in charge of the police force, acknowledged knowing about it.

When the mother confronted Sandusky, he said: “I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead,” according the presentment from the grand jury.

An investigator for Children and Youth Services broke the news to the mother: It was all a big mistake, the mother said she was told. The police officer who investigated won’t comment. Neither will the former police chief.

“Jerry Sandusky admitted to my face, he admitted it,” the mother said. “He admitted that he lathered up my son they were naked and he bear-hugged him. If they would have done something about it in 1998, and then again in 2002 — there was two chances they dropped the ball and I think they should all be held accountable.”

Her son, she said, can’t stop thinking about Victim One.

“That poor child,” she said. “My heart is like breaking for this boy and his family. And what about all the boys we don’t know about? They could have all been saved.”

The only semblance of comfort their family has had in the last three days is from community support.

“At last, my family and I are believed,” she said. “Because they tried to make my son and the other boy out to be liars.”

Every day was a struggle


Finding the courage to come forward was supposed to be the hardest part.

“We expected you just arrest people who do stuff like that,” Victim One’s mom said. “We didn’t realize it was going to be this difficult and take this long.”

The three-year investigation eventually ended with a grand jury finding that Sandusky had eight victims — two of them had long-term relationships with Sandusky and six involved shared showers in Lasch Building at Penn State, which houses the football program.

“I am upset that it took this long, but I also realize that the more people they find, the less impact it’s going to have on my son ... and it’s only going to help everybody else,” the mom said.

Hearing that he wasn’t alone was a challenge of emotions for her son.

“He wasn’t happy that it happened to somebody else,” she said.

But in a way, there was some relief: more chance that he would be believed.

It was very hard to keep their cool, to keep the allegations a secret, and not talk to anyone. But they did it.

When the arrests were announced Saturday, and the family learned that two Penn State officials had known about a prior incident and didn’t report it to police, she flipped out.

“I’m infuriated that people would not report something like that,” she said. “I still can’t believe it. I’m appalled. I’m shocked. I’m stunned. There’s so many words. I’m very mad. They could have prevented this from happening.”

Her son has accused Sandusky of four years of abuse, and it started not long after Curley and Schultz were notified of a abuse report in 2002.

The attorney general has said their inaction allowed Sandusky to molest this boy.

His mom said he knows that.

“He’s very angry,” she said. “I just can’t fathom how anybody could do that. When I read the indictment, I was very shocked that there was so many people that didn’t do anything ... and there had to be more people covering it up, I think, for him to get away with it for this long.”

When her son first came forward, every day was a struggle. There was this overwhelming feeling of deception. Sandusky was supposed to be a role model.

“In the beginning, it was extremely upsetting. I was so shocked. It got so bad we didn’t know what to do,” she said. “[He] is really, really afraid of Jerry. He told me numerous times when he started backing away from him, you just can’t tell him no. I said, why not?”

Her son replied, “You just don’t do that.”

“His attorney was saying how these disadvantaged children, you can’t trust them ... because they come from low income. I don’t think that has any bearing on anything,” she said. “I was warned that is what this basically would be about, because kids in The Second Mile are basically disadvantaged.”

In the first page of their presentment, grand jurors noted that, too. They accused Sandusky of using the charity to find his victims, “many of whom were vulnerable due to their social situations.”

“Obviously it’s a price that the brave victim pays,” Gillum said.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html

I just don't understand it. I wouldn't want to be in the same building as that guy, let alone allow him to be in around my program.

And it's like, Hey Joe, you're freaking Joe Pa. If you called the cops it's not like anyone would think anything less of you. You run that school.