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It's not an "understanding of him just running off"
I'm not trying to say what anyone else WOULD do, but for anyone to KNOW what they would do is just hindsight talking, it's EASY to say NOW what you WOULD HAVE done...
But in that moment? Who knows, I ASSUME I would at least yell out a "What the ____ are you doing?"
I'm just saying don't hang people for not knowing what they would do in that situation, as noone REALLY knows...
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It is troubling how everyone seems more concerned about their own well being and not wanting to compromise their own comfort level than they are about helping a defenseless child.
I don't think it's about personal well-being or comfort levels.
I think I would flee because I would honestly be in shock. I would have to process it. Did I just see that? What was that? That couldn't have been what I thought it was, right? Coach Sandusky? Is anyone going to believe me?
I don't even know that I would have processed the gravity of the situation right then and there, and later I probably would've wanted to kick my own ass for fleeing, but in all honesty, that's what I think I would've done.
Who knows ... maybe I wouldn't have. Maybe I would've pulled the guy off of the kid.
But my point is, everyone is acting like they would've stopped it when they saw it. And I don't know what the exact statistics are, but I'd guess that if you that if could comprehensively examine that number of people who witness these acts vs. the number who stop it or even report them, I'd bet we'd all be dismayed.
It's very easy for us to ignore terrible things that go on around us. We all do it every day. I know I'll hear there's no comparison and blah blah blah, but just about every one of us purchases and walks around wearing clothing that was stitched by small children who instead of getting to be children are packed into a factory to work for 14 hours a day for less than a dollar. It's pretty much slavery. And we know it happens. We're well aware. We ignore it. I don't see anyone calling Nike or whoever monsters.
You can't read that grand jury report and tell me that a lot of people didn't know or have a good idea. There were several eyewitnesses who saw what happened and didn't stop it. It wasn't just McQuery. Sandusky was investigated. He was banned from the local high school. Rumors were swirling for a long time.
I think, typically, this is what happens. People ignore it, for whatever reason.
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I totally disagree. No way I would have done what he did. NO WAY. That is not a pat on the back, that is not me being a hero. That is me doing what ANY human being SHOULD do. Period.
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It's very easy for us to ignore terrible things that go on around us. We all do it every day. I know I'll hear there's no comparison and blah blah blah, but just about every one of us purchases and walks around wearing clothing that was stitched by small children who instead of getting to be children are packed into a factory to work for 14 hours a day for less than a dollar. It's pretty much slavery. And we know it happens. We're well aware. We ignore it. I don't see anyone calling Nike or whoever monsters.
Sorry Phil, but unlike most others on this board, I don't get into your little political, subject twisting games.
I'm talking about this situation right here, and that's it. If you want keep up with your same old, same old, go right ahead, and I'll happily go back to skipping right over your posts.
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It's not a subject twisting game.
People ignore awful things that go on all the time. All. The. Time.
Beyond the example of having child slave labor make our clothing, people are constantly mugged, robbed, raped and beaten while people look on. It happens every day.
Why is child molestation above that?
I'm in no way, shape or form trying to minimize the terrors of the sexual abuse of a minor, but plenty of other horrible atrocities happen under the watch of a society, and the society ignores it. It happens constantly.
If you don't believe that to be true, end of discussion, as you're not dealing in fact.
And yet, all of a sudden, every single American would've pulled Sandusky off the kid. Meanwhile, at least three people (probably more) in State College had exactly that chance and they didn't do it. All over America, people have had that chance, and they didn't do it.
Look, I agree with you that anyone who sees that should stop it. I agree 110%. But I don't agree that everyone would do it.
On a side note ... way back when, they did these social experiment studies in NYC on 'mob mentality' ... they would essentially simulate someone getting mugged or raped, and have the victim cry out for help. They would also have situations where people were disabled and fell down or something to that effect.
If one person stopped to help, five more would stop to help. If no one stopped to help, the situation often carried out unimpeded.
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It seems to me simply yelling out, "what are you doing?" would have been enough of a startle to the old guy to end the immediate situation. Can we say, instant limpy? I really don't think of lot of thought processing had to occur, you know what you're seeing and you know it isn't right. Deal with the ramifications afterwards. Considering McQueary is a pretty big guy, I doubt an old man with his pants around his ankles would offer a lot of resistance. Grab up the kid and head out of the door to the cops or at the very least the campus police.
The kids were failed all the way around in this, by everyone involved. This is all that matters.
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The kids were failed all the way around in this, by everyone involved. This is all that matters.
I was trying to find a clip of the Katrina episode of South Park but couldn't, becasue the exchange between Stan and his Dad I think fits here...
Stan: They're going to help those people trapped in Beaverton right?
Stan's Dad: Stan that's not important right now, what's important is find out who's fault this is..
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Phil - I can absolutely, without question, say, and mean it: I would have stopped the situation. (had I been McQueary). 100%, no doubt.
I know that for a fact. Maybe that makes me a rarity - who cares. I'm not patting myself on the back. I once saw a mother (what I assumed to be the mother anyway), slapping her child at the apartment complex they lived in. I'm guessing a 13 to 14 yr. old girl.
I saw one slap. Watched. Saw another one, and yelled. "HEY, what are you doing???" as I walked up to them. The mother (it was the mother as it turned out) said "You have no idea what this kid has been saying to me." And I responded with "I don't care - you don't beat your kid." (and when I say slap - I'm being generous - it was more of a beating.) After the police showed up - mom and daughter both pooh poohed it. But the cops were called.
I just had this discussion with my father in law. I told him I don't care who it is/was - I would stop it. Get the cops involved. And that's for a beating.
If I see an adult raping a kid???????????? Katie bar the door - it's stopping - NOW.
I'd like to think most people would react the same way.
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I was trying to find a clip of the Katrina episode of South Park but couldn't, becasue the exchange between Stan and his Dad I think fits here...
Stan: They're going to help those people trapped in Beaverton right?
Stan's Dad: Stan that's not important right now, what's important is find out who's fault this is..
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I'm sure we'll have a PSU related episode here soon, if not next week.
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Do you feel you would do the same thing if you saw a woman getting raped on the street or you walked in on this guy raping a little girl? Just curious
I wonder that very same thing.
Not to sound macho because I am far from it, but I would have done everything I could think of/do to prevent this guy from further abusing a child. There is no shock, there is no "I gotta get away and process what it was I saw."
Sorry, that's chicken-.... Pure and simple.
If someone is raping PhilDawsonRocks in the shower I am sure Phil would be happy someone intervened on his behalf and didn't walk away to "process" it.
BUT, as for McCreary . . . I don't know the man, he may have been a victim at one time in his past--if those above stats are true.
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If someone is raping PhilDawsonRocks in the shower I am sure Phil would be happy someone intervened on his behalf and didn't walk away to "process" it.
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I'd like to think I'd stop whatever was going on - having been molested myself, I'd hate to think I'd walk away from it happening to someone else. But, at the VERY LEAST, I'd be dialing 911 as I was walking out. Let the cops intervene in a more permanent (shoot the bastage for all I care) manner.
I'm not walking away, calling my Daddy and asking him advice, then the next day going to my boss. Only to have him talk to his boss, who talks to his boss, who does nothing. Hell, I'm thinking I might bust out the camera on the phone to get evidence/proof of what's going on so it CAN'T be covered up. But, in the moment, I'm not certain I'd be coherent enough to be that forward thinking. I KNOW I'd think to call 911 at least.
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A question for you guys who seem so understanding of him just running off and those of you who say you might have done the same thing.
Do you feel you would do the same thing if you saw a woman getting raped on the street or you walked in on this guy raping a little girl? Just curious. And if somebody told you about it and they knew who had done it, would you just go tell your boss about it and go on your merry way?
I all of the above situations somebody would have been receiving a ass whooping 
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A question for you guys who seem so understanding of him just running off and those of you who say you might have done the same thing.
Do you feel you would do the same thing if you saw a woman getting raped on the street or you walked in on this guy raping a little girl? Just curious. And if somebody told you about it and they knew who had done it, would you just go tell your boss about it and go on your merry way?
I all of the above situations somebody would have been receiving a ass whooping
I'm pretty sure that most all of us would have jumped in the middle and stopped Sandusky from doing what McCreary says he saw him do...
Personally, i've never been in a situation like that, but I'd really like to beleive I wouldn't let it continue...
Was McCreary worried about his job or something? Why didn't he break it up? has anyone asked him that publically?
This doesn't excuse anyone.. I was just wondering.
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Weren't Sandusky and McCreary friends?
I would imagine that he was shocked beyond words at what he saw with regards to his friend. He probably tried to talk himself out of what he saw because it was his friend.
I'm certainly not excusing the matter one bit, but he probably tried desperately to deny to himself that he saw what he saw ....... and when he couldn't do so any longer, went to Paterno. He was probably shaken to his core, and also had visions, fairly or not, of his coaching career ending right then and there before it even started.
I would like to think that I would have done something to stop him on the spot ..... but if it was a friend of mine (at the time) doing such a horrible thing ..... I would have to imagine that I would be in such shock that rational thought might not even be possible. I think that I would probably have taken a swing at the guy to get him away from the victim, but no one knows for certain until they are in that type of situation. It's like people who claim that the would be brave when faced with the business end of a gun pointed at their head. I've had that one happen to me, and let me just say that bravery flies out the window immediately when it happens.
The molester was investigated by the Campus Police (if I understand the course of events) and no evidence of anything was found. I do not know why the local police were not involved. That would be my big question.
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I think its safe to say that McQueary was at least doubly conflicted by what he witnessed:
1.) He was a graduate assistant with ambitions to become a member of the coaching staff when he witnessed a situation involving a very powerful member of the PSU family. He had to have misgivings about whether he'd be believed, and also how it would affect his potential for future employment.
2.) Sandusky was a long-time family friend - he'd known him his whole life. There had to be some degree of disbelief and disorientation at what he just saw.
There is also a third possible source of conflict - purely conjecture on my part - as a boy, McQueary was victimized by his father's friend, Jerry Sandusky, and he froze up psychologically.
None of which excuses his inaction, but makes it more understandable - and forgiveable, if he was one of Sandusky's victims.
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I hope every child/teenager/man this freak molested finds strength in unity and steps forward to nail his ass to the wall.
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Ditto that. I'm afraid the list of victims is going to end up being a lot larger than is known right now. He didn't just start doing this in the late 90's. He started the Second Mile in the late 70's; the probability is high that there has been many more victims than we now know. If he's guilty, and it sure looks like he is, he needs a bullet.
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the victims list goes back into the late 80s right now, but I agree that it is likely that the list will continue to grow.
extremely sad.
I am still not sure that Penn State should continue to be apart of the Big10 after everything comes out. And, I am surprised that issue has not been brought up by national media members.
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I just found out that Sandusky was allowed to run Jr football camps at Penn State satelite schools (like the one in Erie) after he was prohibited from running them on main campus because the schools never communicated with each other. What a sad sad mess.
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I just found out that Sandusky was allowed to run Jr football camps at Penn State satelite schools (like the one in Erie) after he was prohibited from running them on main campus because the schools never communicated with each other. What a sad sad mess.
This was a failure by so many people on so many levels....
Is there anyone coming forward that mentioned prior to when McCreary saw it occur in the late 90s?
I mean, if nothing was reported before that, then I could see Penn State doing nothing..
But after McCreary saw what he saw, You'd think that that would have been the end of it.. Well, it should have been anyway.,.,,
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This was after 98 when he agreed to stop "showering with the boys"
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I guess I see their point. BSPN “The trophy and its namesake are intended to be celebratory and aspirational, not controversial.” In light of the child sex-abuse scandal at Penn State, Joe Paterno's name has been removed from the new Big Ten championship trophy, the conference announced Monday. The Big Ten said that the crisis at Penn State, which led to Paterno's firing as coach Wednesday night, prompted the decision to remove his name from the trophy. The new trophy, to be awarded Dec. 3 at the inaugural Big Ten football championship game at Indianapolis, had been named for both Paterno and former University of Chicago coach Amos Alonzo Stagg. It will now be known only as the Stagg Championship Trophy. "We believe that it would be inappropriate to keep Joe Paterno's name on the trophy at this time," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said in a statment. "The trophy and its namesake are intended to be celebratory and aspirational, not controversial. We believe that it's important to keep the focus on the players and the teams that will be competing in the inaugural championship game." The Big Ten pointed to the recent grand jury indictments against retired Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky and two other officials, a U.S. Department of Education investigation into Penn State's response to the allegations of sexual abuse involving Sandusky, and Paterno's dismissal by the school's board of trustees as reasons to remove Paterno's name from the trophy.
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Why is Stagg on the trophy in the first place? He coached at Springfield, Chicago and Univ of Pacific. None of which are Big Ten venues. I understand he invented the man in motion and the lateral pass but..
I would prefer they called it The Big Ten Trophy. Simple enough.
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Why is Stagg on the trophy in the first place? He coached at Springfield, Chicago and Univ of Pacific. None of which are Big Ten venues. I understand he invented the man in motion and the lateral pass but..
I would prefer they called it The Big Ten Trophy. Simple enough.
U Chicago was a founding member of the Big10 (up through 1946), and is still on the Committee of Institutional Cooperation (the academic wing of the big10).
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Why is Stagg on the trophy in the first place? He coached at Springfield, Chicago and Univ of Pacific. None of which are Big Ten venues. I understand he invented the man in motion and the lateral pass but..
I would prefer they called it The Big Ten Trophy. Simple enough.
U of Chicago was one of the founding members of the Big10 and remained apart of the conference until after WWII.
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I'd forgotten. My fault.. thanks for the reminder.
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This doesn't have anything to do with the legal matter, or anything like that, but where is Jerry Sandusky? I know he's out on bail or whatever.
Like, how do you go home and look your wife and kids in the eye after all this? Is he just staying at some hotel room?
Even more, as his wife, how do you even allow him back in your home?
I couldn't imagine what his family is going through right now, they are victims as well. How horrible.
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Good question....I keep waiting to hear he took his own life.
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According to a State College paper, he was shopping at Dick's Sporting Goods on Thursday.
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Not sure if this judge as more of a connection than simply working for Sandusky's charity, but letting him off with unsecured bail just stinks. http://deadspin.com/5859075/judge-who-se...-mile-volunteer When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing. Judge Dutchcot has quite the professional resume. In addition to her duties as district judge, she is of counsel to the firm Goodall & Yurchak. It speaks to the small-town nature of the county, I suppose, that the firm's URL is "centrelaw.com." According to her profile, Judge Dutchcot has been named the State College Lawyer of the Year, completed a "Leadership" program and has served as a counselor at Centre County Law Enforcement Camp Cadet, Inc. Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky's group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of Nov. 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot's Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter. Attorneys often serve charitable foundations in their pro bono capacities, or just volunteer in their spare time, so there is nothing weird about that. It just seems that, given the nature of the charges, the small-town atmosphere, and her relationship to Second Mile, Judge Dutchcot should have recused herself from being involved with this process. Or that could be precisely why she did not.
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And according to a few of my friends who go there ... he was seen working out at one of the facilities up until the evening paterno was fired ...
Campus police had to tell him to leave when some of the students figured out it was him.
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Campus police had to tell him to leave when some of the students figured out it was him.
And now he is probably sitting at home watching The Disney Channel all day long.....
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Campus police had to tell him to leave when some of the students figured out it was him.
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They talked about him on ESPN. He is home, and his back deck is 50' from a grade school play ground. 
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According to a State College paper, he was shopping at Dick's Sporting Goods on Thursday.
Plus I've heard and seen a few pictures of him still walking around in PSU gear. Now I realize PSU gear probably makes up a good portion of his wardrobe and I realize the man clearly has mental issues - but don't ya think it may cross his mind that maybe representing himself in PSU attire isn't the best thing at the moment?
Every fanbase has it's portion of crazies - I'm shocked this dude is still walking around free and clear in such a relatively small community.
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