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If talented coaches such as Reid and Turner are looking for work, which they may not be...Cleveland, might be a good place to take on an offensive consulting job.
...just speculating.
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No way would Reid come here for an OC gig.
Norv, on the other hand. That's a different story.
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Norv has a history of elevating QB play as an OC for teams... The only reason I'd be interested in him, but is he even familiar with the WCO?
I'm assuming we're going to get some assitant or young QB coach from Philly or Green Bay to come in and be the OC...
Cause if Shurmur's still calling the plays, nobodies going to want to come here to do all the work and not get any of the credit...
Brad Childress is the exception, not the rule...
(aka an OC the didn't call plays but still somehow got a HC job, and we saw how that ended up...)
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Since Shurmur wants to call the plays we'll get an OC type to help with the dirty work part of game planning. We don't need some big name offensive guru for that job. Shurmur will still play a big role in the game plan and call the plays on game day. The new guy will just take up some of the drudgery part of it.
That's my take on it.
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That's a good point that I didn't even consider. Disregard my post...
I was just saying that there's no way Andy Reid settles for an OC gig. He would get snapped up to be someone's head coach.
Norv, on the other hand... there's no way he's getting hired as an HC.
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Norv?
I'd rather steal Chud back somehow.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Norv Turner is one of the most successful offensive coordinators of all time. With that said, there is no way he is going to take a position on a team where he is not calling plays.
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And Jeff Fisher isn't going to want him. 
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ESPN reporting Jags have news conference scheduled for noon...looks like Jack Del Rio might be gone.
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Per nfl.com.
The Jacksonville Jaguars have fired longtime head coach Jack Del Rio, a team source told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.
Del Rio informed his coaching staff of the decision on Tuesday, according to the source. He told them that Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver has ideas about how to proceed, but Del Rio was uncertain who would replace him.
A source told NFL Network's Albert Breer that defensive coordinator Mel Tucker will take over as interim head coach. Tucker joined the Jaguars in 2009 following four seasons as an assistant with the Cleveland Browns.
The Jaguars announced, via the team's official Twitter account, that Weaver will hold a news conference at noon ET. The Jags also said the team would not practice Tuesday.
The second head coach in team history, Del Rio's job security had been tenuous since Weaver said the coach needed to make the playoffs this year to secure a 10th season in Jacksonville. The Jaguars were essentially eliminated with Sunday's 20-13 loss to Houston.
Following the game Weaver was asked if a decision had been made on Del Rio's coaching future.
"Now is not the time," Weaver said Sunday. "That's for another day."
The Jaguars, who are struggling to sell tickets, host a Monday night game against San Diego.
Hired by the Jaguars in 2003, Del Rio finishes his career in Jacksonville with a 69-73 overall record, including a 1-2 mark in the postseason. His team hasn't made the playoffs since 2007, when Jacksonville finished 11-5 and qualified as a wild card.
The Jaguars didn't win the AFC South in any of his nine seasons.
Weaver considered firing Del Rio after last season, but kept him partly because of the uncertainty surrounding the NFL lockout. Weaver refused to give contract extensions to any of Del Rio's assistants, putting everyone on alert that this was a win-or-else season.
Del Rio refused to let offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter and linebackers coach Mark Duffner interview for lateral positions. He couldn't stop quarterbacks coach Mike Shula, whose contract ended, and receivers coach Todd Monken, who returned to a college job at Oklahoma State, from bolting.
Given the situation, the pool of coaches wanting to come to Jacksonville was small, so Del Rio had few options while rebuilding his staff. Del Rio hinted this season that his hands were tied in terms of what he could do to assemble the best staff.
Fans have been clamoring for his departure for years, with many calling for him to be fired following a 5-11 finish in 2008. Instead, Weaver parted ways with personnel chief James "Shack" Harris and selected Gene Smith the general manager.
Smith has rebuilt the roster over the last three years. But the Jaguars have shown no progress under Del Rio's leadership.
The Associated Press contributed to this report. web page
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No big surprise there.
I would assume that they will look for an offensive oriented head coach now, to work with Gabbert.
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The only surprise is that they said Gene Smith rebuilt the roster. Did I miss something? 
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So, the breaking news headline on NFL.com is: Report: Jacksonville franchise to be sold amid firing of coach Jack Del Rio.
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Link Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver will put his Jacksonville franchise up for sale, according to a league source. The source also said Weaver wants the team to stay in Jacksonville, Fla. Weaver is expected to address the sale during a Tuesday news conference at noon ET. Pakistani-born entrepreneur and auto-parts mogul Shahid Khan will buy the franchise, a source with knowledge of the situation said. The sale would be subject to league approval, but the process already is underway. The news of the team's sale comes on the heels of coach Jack Del Rio's firing after eight-plus seasons with the team. Kahn told Sports Illustrated he intends to keep the Jaguars in Jacksonville. Kahn lost out in an attempt to buy the St. Louis Rams when Stan Kroenke bought the team in 2010. In other Jaguars news, general manager Gene Smith has received a three-year contract extension, according to a league source.
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That 3-year extension might as well be written with invisible ink....
Mel Tucker is the new interim head coach.
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Del Rio got the short end of the stick.
Sure he wasn't GREAT.
But when you're told "Make the playoffs or you're fired"
And then your team drafts a QB in the first round...?
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Mel Tucker is the new interim head coach.
I understand what you are saying, but it won't be to the judge who hears the case if it goes to litigation when he is dumped unless some claim of cause can be proven.
Sounds like a more then fair severance deal to me. Most people get maybe a month, and a few get maybe 18 months tops.
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If they gave the GM an extension, it has to be because the new guy wants him to stay. Otherwise, why would he take on a contract that he would have to pay for nothing? There's no severance in the NFL if your contract is up.
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The team hasn't been sold yet, correct???
What better way to protect your guys then to give them a contract extension??
I am not saying the new guy doesn't want him.....just saying
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From above:
Pakistani-born entrepreneur and auto-parts mogul Shahid Khan will buy the franchise, a source with knowledge of the situation said. The sale would be subject to league approval, but the process already is underway.
There is no way someone trying to sell a team would add to the payroll without consulting with the incoming owner.
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Firing the coach was a stipulation of the sale.
Speculation of course, just fits the timing.
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Apparently Jax had been getting calls from LA owners constantly, not even taking them?
Good for them. (I guess?)
The new owner has no written agreement to keep the team in Jacksonville, but has said he enjoys the area and doesn't plan to move.
Good for him. (I guess?)
I just don't think the Jacksonville area is prime estate for a Pro Football team, especially a below average one...
LA Charges anyone?
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As a San Diego transplant, I'm not really sure which scenario I dislike more:
1. San Diego keeping its team or
2. LA getting a team
San Diego fans are whiny and pathetic. Not quite as pathetic as Cinci fans, but way more whiny.
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I'd love to bring this guy on to help with the offense...
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I agree, Can we get him here by Sunday?
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I would love to have Mike Sherman join the Browns. One of my favorite coaches. I would say this one is very plausible and besides, Shurmur and Sherman run the same offense.
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He also coached under Holmgren with the Packers and Seahawks and shares an agent with Shurmur and Holmgren.
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If Gil Haskel isn't interested in doing the job, I can't think of a better guy than Mike Sherman.
Looks like a perfect storm from fit to finish with him....
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It's SO PERFECT... Which means it won't happen... 
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Would he want to be an offensive coordinator in title only, doing the grunt work without being allowed to call the plays?
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I'd love to bring this guy on to help with the offense...
Well, he did work for Holmgren in GB for a a while.. so he'd be like almost the perfect fit for OC.. wow.. there really could be something to this.
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He has a point alright. Anyone who thinks we have a top-notch NFL defense this year is dreaming.
We have some of the pieces in place but we're a long way from being intimidating.
Well Wait a moment here.. the stats say we are what we are right?
It's not like QB stats. when a QB has only 100 yards passing in a game,, you can look at several things like, how many passes were dropped, how many sacks did he take, how many hurries.. these are things that would cause you to think twice about stats.
But this is a bit different. We allowed x number of yards per game..
I suggest that's going to change in the next 6 weeks because we have Pitt and Balt twice each.. so that number is, I'm sure, going to changs a bunch.
But today, it is what it is..
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multime...?sct=nfl_bf4_a3
I don't understand how hiring a guy who just came off two winnings seasons in 3 years, and would have made the playoffs had Favre's arm not fallen apart...Is "The worst hire in 25 years"
Joe Posnanski clearly has a bias against Mangini...
...So obviously most of the people on here will love this...
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Well in context he is correct. Lerner "Hired" him and the next year hired Holmgren. Holmgren's coaching philosophy is entirely different than Mangini's. Holmgren brought in Heckert and the two of them are 4-3D and WCO. Mangini never was going to fit so he had to go (a year late btw).
He says he was the worst "Hire" not the worst coach. In that context I could agree.
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He says he was the worst "Hire" not the worst coach. In that context I could agree.
Especially when you add in that he was hired before, and allowed to pick, the GM. Totally wrong way to do it.
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Well in context he is correct. Lerner "Hired" him and the next year hired Holmgren.
You just took it out of context. It's not like Lerner hired Mangini knowing he wasgoing to then hire Holmgren a year or so later...
The Hiring the HC before the GM thing was dumb yes.
But to me, a "bad hire" is something you knew from THE START wasn't going to work...
And as much as Django would like everyone to belive, we didn't KNOW it wouldn't work...
Based on the things I said earlier (winning seasons, playoffs, etc) I was optimistic in him coming here, and had we not hired Holmgren, I think he'd still be here... JMHO
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Yeah, as it turned out it was not a good hire. I don't think that anyone can argue that he was a good hire given that he had his knees cut out from under him less than a year into his 1st year, and then was cut off to somewhere just below the waist shortly into his 2nd year when his new GM decided to trade for a player that in no way fit his system. If that didn't scream "the writing is on the wall ... in bright, glow in the dark, fluorescent paint and 3' tall block letters ... then I don't know what would. If mangini would have come to Cleveland and done what he did in NY (2 winning seasons out of 3) he might have been canonized.  However, as things worked out, it was a wasted 2 years.
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I've got no problem with Mangini. If he would have been hired after a GM was named, one that wasn't a lap dog for the Coach, he might still be here. His problem was he chose a GM and chose quite poorly. A better GM, some better draft picks, and a bit of luck and we'd still have him here. Oh well, that's life in the Not For Long Football League. Once Holmgren was hired it was only a matter of time.
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