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20 years old.......................you have a good brain my friend. You are on a good start to do good in life...............already thinking about the future and what life is all about! I joined the U.S. Navy at the rip old age of twenty and never looked back! I took advantage of the G.I. Bill later in life............it is all good! Do not give up on your education............you will find your interest as time goes on....................enjoy your youth and study hard. Enjoy all the ladies you meet.................and find a nice person you like to help spend time doing homework with..................it will be a big plus on your grades and maybe more!  Hang in there man! 
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This just in! Browns Bigshot finished his career evaluators test!......He is better suited to be a life long poster on a web site.
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I need to talk to Purp and see what he pays per hour for my great posts. Maybe it's something to think about... 
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The world sucks, no one will give you a well paying job without a degree. You can't get a nice car or a nice house without a degree, ESPECIALLY with a family.
That is not true. many of us with no degrees are doing pretty well.
I agree with one thing. STAY IN SCHOOL
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Well, it's time for my weekly rant thread, so here goes...
You know what really ticks me off? As Im sitting here doing my college work, I can't stand it. I'm 20 years old, and I don't even know what I want to do. I have approximately 40 credit hours under my belt, but they don't really go to any certain degree because I can't make up my freekin mind what I want to do. I have dug myself into a nice big chunk of debt for nothing!
There are four things I want in life:
A nice family
A nice house
A nice car
A good paying job.
I don't aspire to change the world. Hell, if I can change one or two peoples lives, I will have been a success. All I want to do is have fun, make decent money, and watch the browns kick the living crap out of their opposition on Sunday.
I guess I'm ready to dump this school stuff and make a decent living. I can tell you this much... Three more years of school is not in my future. I absolutely hate school.
Has anyone been in this situation? What did you decide? Should I just give up and go sit outside with a will work for food sign?
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I'm a little late on this one, but I'll tell you what my late boss told me, May his soul rest in peace.
That degree is all that matters, what it is for is irrelevant, unless you pursue that career.
He became a business leader, managed chains of lumber yards, was instrumental in creating what was the largest lumber dealers association at the time, as well as the company that first brought computers and software into lumber yards and supply retailers.
All because he was given the chance to prove himself thanks to his degree. He was orphaned at a young age, eventually was back with his father, then pushed out on his own when he was 16. Went on to manage all these businesses, and eventually start his own with his sons, the company i work for now. Started out as a 1mil/yr with 8 employees, and now we do 40mil/yr with over 100 employees in just 22 years.
His degree? Dairy farming.
He would tell me, the degree itself doesn't mean as much as the paper it's on, it's the fact that you pursued and succeeded. That is what that degree represents.
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Thats very true, less you are a accountant, lawyer, or a Doctor. Where I work you don't need a degree but if you want to go into management it sure does help. When I get my degree it will open up a lot of doors with our region or corporate office for me if I decide to stay. Plus you can usually ask for more money and get it,,not always but you have the stuff to at least try.
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This may surprise you but a good degree for something like that if you want to learn the trade is in theatre (either just a general studies BA or a technical theatre BFA). As I said on the woodworkers thread, it has opened up so many different doors for me. Doing remodeling is essentially the same thing. Look into a program that has a Technical Direction emphasis. In a good program, you will learn everything that you will ever want to know about working and building with wood and metal. I got into theatre for essentially the same ideal. I did not have any prior theatre experience. However, I have always wanted to get into architectural and concert lighting. Now, not only do I have the means necessary to tackle that, but it also opened up a completely different (and gigantic) field that I previously never even thought of. I could easily do exactly what you are wanting to do.
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Thats very true, less you are a accountant, lawyer, or a Doctor. Where I work you don't need a degree but if you want to go into management it sure does help. When I get my degree it will open up a lot of doors with our region or corporate office for me if I decide to stay. Plus you can usually ask for more money and get it,,not always but you have the stuff to at least try.
That's why I put in the first line. 
That degree is all that matters, what it is for is irrelevant, unless you pursue that career.
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Would you mind checking this out and telling me if you think it would be a solid program to get into?
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If that is the career course you want, then yes, it looks good.
Nothing wrong with a 2 year program that gets you directly into the nuts and bolts of a career.
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Hey Peen, any idea where I could find out if that is a career that is in demand? If I go this route, I would only have about a year to go because I have taken all of the Gen-Ed requirements.
I have always been intrigued by fixing up houses and stuff like that. Is construction the only way to go with this type of work?
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I'm 20 years old, and I don't even know what I want to do.
i'm 45 and still dont know what i wanna do, Cowboy didnt work out, Astronaut did go as planned, Professional fisherman hasnt panned out, not a big demand for year round deer hunters, but i'm happy kids are healthy and normal, if you can call anybody with my gene pool in them normal, pay my bills , warm house, good women to go home too, not bad for a red neck..
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Looks good, but you might want to stretch it out into two years as Peen said. Trust me, its going to take more than a year to learn stuff like CAD, learning materials, and how to construct. If you try to do it all in a year like you had stated, you will be completely burned out. Take your time to learn it, especially if you are spending the money. Otherwise, you would essentially get the same results as cramming for a test.
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I'm 20 years old, and I don't even know what I want to do.
i'm 45 and still dont know what i wanna do, Cowboy didnt work out, Astronaut did go as planned, Professional fisherman hasnt panned out, not a big demand for year round deer hunters, but i'm happy kids are healthy and normal, if you can call anybody with my gene pool in them normal, pay my bills , warm house, good women to go home too, not bad for a red neck..
You didn't mention that horrible time when you tried the ballerina thing....
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BBS....we have been down this road before.
I don't intend to sound mean or anything like that, but sooner or later you are going to have to seek your own answers.
There aren't any guarantees in life. Everything depends on you.
You can make big money collecting grease from the barrels in the back of restaurants, people buy the stuff to make lipstick and such, or you can be the greasy guy driving down the road in a beat up truck.
I can't answer your question.
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Hey Peen, any idea where I could find out if that is a career that is in demand? If I go this route, I would only have about a year to go because I have taken all of the Gen-Ed requirements.
I have always been intrigued by fixing up houses and stuff like that. Is construction the only way to go with this type of work?
Don't base everything you do on potential earnings. First and foremost you have to enjoy it, or it will just drain you of your life and you'll hate every minute of it, but breaking loose becomes tougher because you get accustomed to the money, and may have to take a pay cut to do something you enjoy.
If you don't like the job, it's not worth it for any amount, unless it pays enough to retire after the first year or 2.
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Screw it, I'm just going to go start at guard for the Browns for a couple of years. I'm tired of this job search. I run probably an 8 second forty and can rep 225 twice. Thats got big money all over it...
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The Raiders would give you quite the signing bonus for those numbers  I'm still waiting for the Celtics to get back to me. I think they'll be impressed by my 4 inch. vert.
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I'm still waiting for the Celtics to get back to me. I think they'll be impressed by my 4 inch. vert.
i have a 3 foot vert. leap, to bad it's just on the way down off the chair...
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Hey Clay how is that TV show going that you were going to star in?
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Hey Peen, any idea where I could find out if that is a career that is in demand? If I go this route, I would only have about a year to go because I have taken all of the Gen-Ed requirements.
1. You're on the internet. That info is 2-5 clicks away.
2. Each and every school has information on this as well.
3. Schools also have tests to help you figure out which route to go; what would best suit your interests and needs.
Good luck.
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Well, it's time for my weekly rant thread, so here goes...
You know what really ticks me off? As Im sitting here doing my college work, I can't stand it. I'm 20 years old, and I don't even know what I want to do. I have approximately 40 credit hours under my belt, but they don't really go to any certain degree because I can't make up my freekin mind what I want to do. I have dug myself into a nice big chunk of debt for nothing!
There are four things I want in life:
A nice family
A nice house
A nice car
A good paying job.
I don't aspire to change the world. Hell, if I can change one or two peoples lives, I will have been a success. All I want to do is have fun, make decent money, and watch the browns kick the living crap out of their opposition on Sunday.
I guess I'm ready to dump this school stuff and make a decent living. I can tell you this much... Three more years of school is not in my future. I absolutely hate school.
Has anyone been in this situation? What did you decide? Should I just give up and go sit outside with a will work for food sign?
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Go Browns!!!
I think you should take a look at your priorities a bit. And I think you are equating sucess to money a bit too much.
A nice family... Well this is up to you to find the right person and hope that the in-laws are easy to get along with. Luck also has something to do with this as the outcome of medical and children is uncertain. An education will help you be more articulate, but does not exclude you from finding someone.
A nice house.... This is partially related to money.. People generally equate the size of house to niceness.. This is not necessaily the case.
A nice car.. See above.
A good paying job... It is interesting that you indicated that a good paying job was more important than a good job. Some people have terrible jobs that pay well. Others have jobs that don't pay as well that they love. A person spends about 1/4 of a year at their job, so job satisfaction is just as important as the pay. People who go to college generally have the ability to select their career path, and it should be one that interests them as well. Generally speaking a college graduate earns about 50 percent more than a non-college graduate. The quality of work for college graduates is generally different, and you have the ability to find a situation that you like.
All of this stated, I selected a career path that interested me (engineering) and paid well for a 4 year degree. There is no harm in selecting a career path that pays well, as long as you like the work.
Most people drop out of college, not because of their inability or incapability to do work, but because they lack the desire to do well. At some level, most people who enter college can obtain their degree if they are committed to the work.
But you really should think about what you want to do with this college education and find courses that interest you.
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I hated school when I was in HS and joined the Army. I planned on serving four years and then having the Army pay for my college, but I stayed in 21 years and retired.
The Army will pay off your school debt and give you more money for school ($50,000). While you're in, you'll have a steady job and time to consider what you want to do. You'll also have free medical care and almost free dental for your family (about $20 a month).If you decide to go that route, finish your semester before leaving for basic.
If you think that might be something you're interested in PM me. If not, good luck on your future endeavors.
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There are four things I want in life:
A nice family
A nice house
A nice car
A good paying job.
I've refrained from posting in this thread until now.. Here it is, my opinion/view - take it for what it's worth.
If those are the 4 things you really, truly want in life, then do these things.
1. Marry a good woman. Hard working, with the same goals you have. Have kids, and raise them to appreciate working for what they want, teach them to respect others, and to respect authority.
2. Wanna nice house? What's a nice house? Make it - no, not build it, find a house and MAKE it a great home. My first house was under 1000 sq. ft., and it was a home, a safe place for my son. It was warm in the winter, it was cool in the summer. We had a yard, and we used it. It was a HOME. I now live in a home that has a garage with almost the same sq. footage as my previous house. That's just the garage! The house is about 2500 sq. ft. I have a pole barn (2500 sq. ft.), and know what? I'm not one bit happier here than I was in my other house. (hint: it ain't the house that makes you happy, it's the life you lead in the house that makes you happy - it's not the size of the house, it's the size of the life you bring to it that makes you happy).
3. a nice car? What's a nice car? My wife drives an H3. I drive a 94 Bonneville, my son has a 94 Grand Am. Every once in a while, I think "I should get that new dually that I want." And then, soon, I thinkk "why?". I guarantee, it won't make me happier. Nice car, for me, is the same as "car that starts, and gets me where I'm going". I'm not one that's big into "keeping up with the Jones's.". And if you are, you'll never be "happy" with your car,, either.
4.good paying job. We all want that. The key is, get a job, then live accordingly. I happen to know, personally, multi millionaires that are no happier than me. (family, as a matter of fact). I also know families where the husband works a factory job, the wife doesn't work, and they have 4 kids in a 3 bedroom house.......what's funny is, the millionaire is constantly worrying - not "enjoying" life (sure, they enjoy all the toys they have - but they aren't happy) and the "poor" family is always smiling, having fun, and living life to the fullest/1
Bottom line? Do what you feel comfortable with, and live within your means. Trust me, even Bill Gates "wants" things he feels he can't afford. "Things" don't make you happy, or your wife happy, There is not a person around that doesn't have a "I wish I had......" list. That's natural....what's not natural is the thought/feeling of "....if I only had......then I'd be happy".
Been there, done that. I will say this, though: Get a college degree.
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Don't dispair. Most of us have been where you are now.Look to do something you like and design your own path. I had a friend in HS that got me summer jobs at the McDonalds he worked for. When we graduated he stayed there and I thought he was completely out of his mind. Today he owns 2 that I know of.
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