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Meyer looks to be off to a good start. Go Bucks New Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer gets two top recruits, and more could follow Published: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 12:05 PM Updated: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 12:08 PM By Branson Wright, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer APUrban Meyer Urban Meyer has not wasted anytime in getting some of the best high school players to attend Ohio State. Several top players, including wide receiver Ricquan Southward, have changed their verbal commitments to join the Buckeyes. Se’Von Pittman changed his verbal commitment from Michigan State and he will now join the Buckeyes, writes Todd Porter of CantonRep.com. Ohio State continued to recruit Pittman after he verbally committed to Michigan State in June. The 6-foot-5, 250-pound Pittman has a rare combination of size, speed and athleticism to play in the trenches in the Big Ten. When the Buckeyes solidified their head coaching position by hiring Meyer, Pittman gave OSU another look. Pittman was not alone in changing his mind. On ESPN.com, defensive tackle and ESPNU 150 recruit Tommy Schutt decommitted from Penn State and opted instead for Ohio State. More could be on the way. Bishop McDevitt, the No. 1 defensive end in the nation, will visit Ohio State this weekend http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/12/urban_meyer_gets_two_top_recru.html
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Oh, but Urban Meyer can't recruit lmao
And now it begins.
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Probably not all that hard to get someone to leave Penn State these days.
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It's all Mattison! 
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Fickell gets to stay on as a DC. Good move by Meyer IMO. Quote:
Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer said Luke Fickell will make the defensive calls in 2012 and have defensive coordinator in his title, although the final details are still being worked out.
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I saw Se’Von Pittman play a few times this year. Looked like a man among boys.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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It's all Mattison! 
Schutt was turned away by Notre Dame, Michigan and then left PSU. Something doesn't add up for a player ranked as highly as him. Maybe it's a case of some guys being wrong (on his talent evaluation) but he wanted to visit Michigan and was told they were not looking for any more defensive lineman. As was the case with ND, so take that for what it's worth.
Pittman was a good snag. He's got a ton of potential. As for Ricquan Southward, he's a "top player"? He's not even in the top 60 nationally at his position.
I don't doubt Meyer will recruit his fair share of good players. I don't think anyone believes he'll be a "bad" recruiter. I think he'll obviously do well. I'm just curious to see how the recruiting battles go once some of the bigger programs are going head to head with him (i.e. when he and Hoke both want a kid).
Thus far he's been unsuccessful in his attempts to reach out to the highly ranked Ohio kids committed to Hoke and Michigan already has a pretty big jump on 2013 recruiting (having had so many kids locked up early in 2012). So in that regard, he's playing catch up. Michigan pretty much has a top 5 class locked up this year and has one of the best 2013 QB's (Morris) and one of the best athletes in Ohio (D. Thomas) already verballed.
I'm also curious at how successful he'll be getting the highly coveted southern athletes to go north. Obviously Michigan and OSU get some of those kids anyway but Rodriguez struggled to overcome the weather barrier on many of the highly ranked guys he pursued. He got Robinson but that was more of a product of most schools wanting him as an athlete and not as a QB. Maybe Meyer will be a little more successful...or maybe he won't.
I think the more news worthy item has been Meyer's staff hires. Thus far, they have been pretty average. I thought he would have a little bit more pull amongst his coaching peers. Be curious to hear some opinions as I don't view Fickell or Herman as "great" hires or best of best type of coordinators.
Fickell makes sense, as he has all the recruiting relationships but his defense, as a head coach, was pretty average. I had heard Stoops name floating around but that ship must have sailed?
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We'll see 4 years down the road with these guys. You'll have to forgive me if I don't trust the opinion of a man with maize and blue glasses. 
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You'll have to forgive me if I don't trust the opinion of a man with maize and blue glasses.
I agree, but why aren't you any longer worried about his gimmick O??
LOL.....just jerking your chain.
You guys are going to do just fine. Urban is a great recruiter/coach and knows what it takes to beat a SEC team, and history shows you have to beat one of themoto win the brass ring.
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Oh shoot.. when I read Nas's post that just what I waz thinkerin!
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I call yesterday history.
What else should I call it???
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I can't believe the pedestal you have put Hokeon already. Looking back though you did the same thing with Rich Road before he even even stepped on the sidelines for Michigan. To question whether Urban can compete with Fred Flintstone is just silly. Hoke has done pretty well recently because the big dog has been licking his wounds. The big dog is back prowling the yardnow.
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point being if you are TALKING about JUST "recent" college football history, then it's true...
Let me say this before i sound like i'm a complete hater. SEC is hands down the best conf right now and has been for the last 6-8 years...but i'm sick of people making it sound like it's been true since college football has been around.
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I have tried going back and searching the comments made by Nas when Rich Rod was first hired by scUM. Can't seem to find them. They would be classic reading now based on results LOL. No hate Nas, I have avoided the OSU and scUM topic with you for a while now because there is just no point. We are both too stubborn to back down. 
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Noah Spence isn't an OSU commit.
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So did Jim Tressel.... - Arkansas.
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As for Urban Meyer being at home, in Ohio, coaching at THE Ohio State University: 
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I can't believe the pedestal you have put Hokeon already. Looking back though you did the same thing with Rich Road before he even even stepped on the sidelines for Michigan. To question whether Urban can compete with Fred Flintstone is just silly. Hoke has done pretty well recently because the big dog has been licking his wounds. The big dog is back prowling the yardnow.
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Enough with the "big dog" crap. Where was Michigan before Hoke arrived? In the worst stretch in school history. Quit acting like that is the norm. Hoke knows how to recruit and has great recruiting assistants. He isn't going away just because Meyer arrived. Meyer will get great recruits as well. Should be great to see going forward.
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Hoke recruiting well while The O was in upheaval was like The Houston Rockets winning two title while Jordan was "retired"
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Honestly, if I'm a good high school football player, and Urban Meyer walks into my house to recruit me a day after Brady Hoke was in my house to recruit me, that's a pretty easy decision.
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Right. Because making Ball State an 11-2 team was shear luck. He recruited the right players.
Hoke is going back to one of the foundations of good Michigan teams. Recruiting Ohio well.
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http://www.ohiostate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299989Josh Helmholdt Rivals.com Football Recruiting Initial reactions have been overwhelmingly positive from prospects committed to Ohio State concerning the school's hiring of Urban Meyer as its 24th head football coach. Six of the prospects on Ohio State's class of 2012 list committed to the program when Jim Tressel was still the head coach, and the rest did so understanding that there was a strong likelihood interim head coach Luke Fickell would not be leading the team past the 2011 season. Most coaching changes shake up the recruiting foundation of the current class, but the Meyer hire at Ohio State should have a stabilizing effect on the Buckeyes' 2012 class. The resignation of Tressel in May, the shadow of NCAA investigations over the program and the uncertainty of who would lead the program going forward has all contributed to a difficult recruiting landscape for Fickell and his staff. With Meyer in place, though, clarity has been added to the future of Ohio State football. The rumors of Meyer being in line to take over the program have been around since early in the fall, and recruits seem to be exhaling a collective sigh of relief that a proven winner has taken the reins in Columbus. The program's top ranked commitment in the 2012 class, Cincinnati (Ohio) Taft four-star Adolphus Washington, described his feelings Monday morniag upon hearing the news. "I'm very excited about it and I'm glad he accepted. I can't wait to meet him," Washington said. Other Ohio State commitments have echoed Washington's statements. The Buckeyes have a known name, and a two-time national championship winner ready to take over the program, and the program finally has stability after months of turmoil. "I'm very excited to have an opportunity to play for coach Urban Meyer," said Upper Arlington (Ohio) wide receiver Frank Epitropoulos. "He's had success at Florida and I see it transferring over to Ohio State simply because he's a winner." "I'm excited," Pickerington (Ohio) North offensive guard Pat Elflein added. "I haven't met him, but I know he is a great coach with great intensity and I love that." "I know he will be a good leader for us and I can't wait to play for him," Cleveland (Ohio) St Ignatius tight end Blake Thomas said. "He's had great success in the past and I know that will continue at the Ohio State University." Ohio State currently has 16 commitments in its 2012 class and the class was not expected to get much higher because of the limited number of scholarships available. But Meyer does not have to come out of the gates hitting home runs on the recruiting trail and quickly infusing the roster with his recruits. He won his first national championship in just his second year on the job at Florida, with a roster consisting mostly of prospects brought in by his predecessor's staff. Some of the biggest names remaining on the Buckeyes' 2012 recruiting list are offensive linemen Jordan Diamond, Alex Kozan and Nick Davidson. They are also after several safety prospects, including Dayton-area three-star Bam Bradley and Pittsburgh-area three-star Demetrious Cox. Now that Meyer has landed in Columbus officially, though, the opportunity exists for the Buckeyes to get in on recruitments in which they were not previously contending. One name that could be interesting to watch is five-star quarterback Gunner Kiel of Indiana. The Buckeyes do have quarterback commitment Cardale Jones on their list as a holdover from the 2011 class, but Kiel's passing ability combined with some mobility would seem to be a fit for Meyer's spread offense. "From a national perspective it doesn't get any bigger than this," Rivals.com national analyst Mike Farrell noted. "The biggest name in college football coaching circles heading to a program like Ohio State with such a brand name is a recipe for instant success in recruiting and the buzz from recruits regarding the Buckeyes will increase exponentially especially in the Southeast and Florida. If there's such a thing as a grand slam hire in college football for recruiting, this is it." Meyer should have few issues finishing out the 2012 class with a few big name additions. Long term, though, the key will be continuing to bring the nation's top recruits to Columbus and few coaches across the country have recruited the elite athletes with as much passion as Meyer. "He is as aggressive of a recruiter as I have ever seen," said Rivals.com West Coast analyst Adam Gorney, who covered Meyer's recruiting for several years at Florida. "He will go after every single kid he wants, no matter where they are in the country. He's going to put together a staff that are all good recruiters and understand that recruiting is what it's all about." Ohio State has built top recruiting classes for decades by building the base of their classes with in-state talent. Ohio is the most talent-rich state in the Midwest, and one of the top five talent producing states in the country. Meyer was born in the state, attended high school and college in-state and still has great connections in the program's backyard. As much as any potential coaching candidate out there, Meyer should be able to appeal to the Buckeyes' base and continue keeping top in-state talent at home. But Meyer also has strong connections in other parts of the country, particularly the southeast where he recently turned Florida into a recruiting juggernaut during his six-year tenure with the program. Ohio State had been dipping into the Sunshine State more and more during Jim Tressel's tenure, and all signs point to the Buckeye's presence increasing in that region under Meyer. "Meyer's tenure at Florida produced great results and led to an entire generation of young football players turning their eyes to Gainesville," Rivals.com Florida analyst Chris Nee said. "Those kids are now reaching the latter stage of their high school careers and will be some of the very prospects that will have an interest in playing for Meyer in the coming years. "While he may have made them Gator fans, their appreciation for what his teams accomplished and how his teams were coached in Gainesville will pay off for him at his new home at Ohio State. He was a ruthless recruiter in the Sunshine State while at Florida and he won't hesitate to return to those old stomping grounds to compete for some of the nation's top athletes. I completely expect Ohio State to further increase an already active presence in Florida under Meyer's direction, and I expect a lot of success for he and his staff in luring Florida talent to the Big Ten program." What will be interesting to watch in the coming days and weeks is who Meyer chooses to fill out his staff at Ohio State, and how those hires could further increase the Buckeyes' recruiting clout across the country. Several Ohio State commitments have told us in recent days they hope Fickell is retained because of the relationships they had with him, and there is plenty of chatter that Meyer does plan to retain Fickell. Still, the name at the top of the coach's roster is what matters most to recruits, and with Urban Meyer as its head man, an already potent Ohio State recruiting machine has the chance to reach new heights. Josh Helmholdt can be reached at hemy12@hotmail.com. You can follow him on Twitter @JoshHelmholdt.
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Right. Because making Ball State an 11-2 team was shear luck. He recruited the right players.
Hoke is going back to one of the foundations of good Michigan teams. Recruiting Ohio well.
Sorry, but beating out Kent State and Akron for MAC players does not ut Hoke on the level of one of the most successful coaches in recent college football history
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Right. Because making Ball State an 11-2 team was shear luck. He recruited the right players.
Hoke is going back to one of the foundations of good Michigan teams. Recruiting Ohio well.
Sorry, but beating out Kent State and Akron for MAC players does not ut Hoke on the level of one of the most successful coaches in recent college football history
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And Meyer isn't some college football God that you are trying to make him out to be. He is a great coach, no doubt, and a great recruiter. That fact does not deminish that Hoke too is a great recruiter, and is proving to be a good coach with the potential to be great.
And the head coach isn't the only recruiter. Meyer himself has said that Greg Mattison is the best recruiter in the country. I am sure Meyer will hire some good recruiters as well.
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I honestly love how much some of you guys are underestimating Hoke.
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- Won 10 games with with a senior class who was 16-22 their first 3 seasons. - Won 6 conference games with a senior class who won 6 TOTAL their first 3 seasons (6-18 overall). - Broke the OSU streak. - Has his team playing in a BCS bowl. - Hired a DC (and coaches the DL) on a defense that went from #112 in total defense, to #18, with almost an identical roster. - Hired an OC who's points per game actually increased, from 32.6 to 34.2.
And yet he's going to clean up Urban Meyer's scraps eh? 
Rationalize away I guess. I know you guys aren't the best fan base at passing out credit.
Hoke is a damn good coach. Has he proven everything he can yet? Nah. Has he proven a lot? Absolutely (well, at least to the majority of people outside the greater columbus area I guess).
IF Meyer was such the end all be all, why can't he convince these lifelong Buckeye fans (Kalis, Bolden, Strobel, etc.) to simply just switch back? It should be that easy shouldn't it? From what some of you guys are suggesting? 
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Is it me....or does Hoke look exactly like Lumpy Rutherford from "Leave it to Beaver"? 
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Michigan might have a highly ranked defense, but I was not impressed with them at all this year.
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Lol it's easy to explain why those guys did not switch back.
OSU fans acted like douche bags to them after they committed to Michigan. You even pointed that out in another thread.
Not rocket science
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They weren't dominating, but they were very good. They also started 3 freshman on defense for half the year.
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Considering just how bad the Michigan defense was during the RichRod era, the turnaround this season was pretty impressive. No, they weren't LSU or Alabama, but they were vastly improved and they could be a couple of recruiting classes away from being really good.
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J/C... To you Michigan fans - stop trying to argue. Resistance to OSU domination is futile. They're clearly a superpower of epic proportions, now they have the greatest coach and recruiter to grace the sidelines of college perhaps ever. You got your win this year - better savor it because it's going to be the last one you ever get. Don't let facts get in the way - don't assume every blue chip in the nation won't come to OSU. It's over for you - it's over for all of us forever. We'll just all stay at the kid's table and fight for players with Ohio Northern, Westminster, Tiffin and Grand Valley State... and we should be happy with that because we're all "sisters of the poor". 
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Naa ..maybe you'll get another one in 7 years.
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I think Hoke is a good coach and I think Michigan did a great job in hiring him.
Yes your team improved this year, can't deny that but Michigan also got to play tOSU, Nebraska and Notre Dame at Home. Their toughest road game was Mich St. and they lost it. They also didn't have to play Penn. St. or Wisconsin this year. They had a perfect storm schedule wise to help with the improvement.
Also, Michigan is in a BCS because of their draw, Michigan St. beat them, won the Legends Division and is ranked higher than them. Michigan St. should of been in the BCS game, IMO but that is the bowl system. tOSU benefited from that a few times.
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Michigan State wasn't ranked in the top 14 of the BCS so they didn't qualify for a BCS game
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Only because of the B10 championship game loss which IMO shouldn't count in the computer rankings but again it's the BCS.
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