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Pretty similar numbers this year and I don't know enough about Buffalo defense to know if Dareus has help around him or how is role is defined
Dareus = 42 tackles / 5.5 sacks / 2 PD / 0 FF
Smith = 57 tackles / 4 sacks / 1 PD / 1 FF
May go back to the theory of not drafting DT's in top 10
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Doesn't the Bills play 3-4 defense.
Stats with DT's often seem silly to me.
You really gotta see if they're drawing double teams and the scheme they're playing in.
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Pretty similar numbers this year and I don't know enough about Buffalo defense to know if Dareus has help around him or how is role is defined
Dareus = 42 tackles / 5.5 sacks / 2 PD / 0 FF
Smith = 57 tackles / 4 sacks / 1 PD / 1
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May go back to the theory of not drafting DT's in top 10
Dareus was already gone by the time we would have picked, so it's a moot point, but Taylor and Little is better then just Julio Jones at 6 imo. It's not like we where Atlanta with few needs, but Jones would have been welcome.
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Taylor and Little is better then just Julio Jones at 6 imo.
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first, others have mentioned the obvious (dareus was gone anyway, we got more than 1 DT with our pick, 3-4 vs. 4-3 etc.)
but, i'll really be excited to see what a full offseason conditioning program does for Phil Taylor as he seemed to fade down the stretch (he did play a heck of alot of snaps)
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Taylor and Little is better then just Julio Jones at 6 imo.
Don't leave out the additional 1st & 4th round picks from that equation.
Yes I should have mentioned that, but I don't think there is that much separating Taylor and Dareus either respectively. Dareus is probably more versatile in that he can also play the 5 technique as he does in Buffalo, but for our 43, I think that Taylor is a good fit.
His sack number probably won't match Dareus's in that he will see more double teams (and he came out a lot on passing situations), but I like his tackle numbers and we should see a jump in production following an offseason with the team.
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I really like both of our young DT's. I can honestly say our D has a couple holes to fill, but our Offense is just a hole with a couple of spots filled.
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Pretty similar numbers this year and I don't know enough about Buffalo defense to know if Dareus has help around him or how is role is defined
Dareus = 42 tackles / 5.5 sacks / 2 PD / 0 FF
Smith = 57 tackles / 4 sacks / 1 PD / 1 FF
May go back to the theory of not drafting DT's in top 10
Taylor is invisible in many games and gets shoved around. he is a rookie so i hope it gets better while Shear is the obvious thoroughbred we drafted. he is already a stud and only getting better with a HUGE motor.
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I'm not down on Smith as he started from Game 1, played ALOT of snaps and had some big games and some down games. He also was extremely stout in goaline, short yardage situations so overall I'd give him a B or B-
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I'm not down on Smith as he started from Game 1, played ALOT of snaps and had some big games and some down games. He also was extremely stout in goaline, short yardage situations so overall I'd give him a B or B-
Robaire or Shaun the nutgrabber?
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I'm not down on Smith as he started from Game 1, played ALOT of snaps and had some big games and some down games. He also was extremely stout in goaline, short yardage situations so overall I'd give him a B or B-
Robaire or Shaun the nutgrabber?
LOL, I think that he meant to type Taylor 
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the expectation level of some round here is through the roof on our rookies...it's a good sign though...as it means that Heckert has done a good job drafting
a low 1st round DT takes time...Taylor was incredibly RAW comin out with ELITE upside....you know how many sacks he had in his last 2 years at Baylor COMBINED? 2.5....he got 4 his rookie season in the NFL....remember Rubin his rookie season? Neither do I, because he barely sniffed the field
You think Haden, Ward, Sheard and Taylor are the norm? Playing AVG or even better from day 1? You're wrong...that was pretty good drafting AND coaching developing them (a point that gets totally lost in the Shurmur bashing)
you know what Mangini turned similar value picks into? Mack, Massa, Veikune and Robo...you see the difference? Not only MUCH better players...also on higher value positions
We should do a prayer every day for having Heckert running the drafts now
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Stats with DT's often seem silly to me.
You really gotta see if they're drawing double teams and the scheme they're playing in.
I agree. A lot goes in to the mix that doesn't simply show up on the stat line.
I am not saying that to diminish Taylor, I think he was a good selection and will be a solid tackle for the next 12 years.
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the expectation level of some round here is through the roof on our rookies...it's a good sign though...as it means that Heckert has done a good job drafting
a low 1st round DT takes time...Taylor was incredibly RAW comin out with ELITE upside....you know how many sacks he had in his last 2 years at Baylor COMBINED? 2.5....he got 4 his rookie season in the NFL....remember Rubin his rookie season? Neither do I, because he barely sniffed the field
You think Haden, Ward, Sheard and Taylor are the norm? Playing AVG or even better from day 1? You're wrong...that was pretty good drafting AND coaching developing them (a point that gets totally lost in the Shurmur bashing)
you know what Mangini turned similar value picks into? Mack, Massa, Veikune and Robo...you see the difference? Not only MUCH better players...also on higher value positions
We should do a prayer every day for having Heckert running the drafts now
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and subtract the third round pick
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