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Jan 28, 4pm EST is the game. The practices are really good, but for some reason NFL Network has not gotten the editing down pat yet. They could show a lot more practice and less standing around, but it's still worth the DVR to me.

The Senior Bowl is a great place to check out draft picks at certain positions. I really like seeing OL and DL in drills, for example. Last year's senior Bowl is what tipped me off to Vincent Brown at WR, who made some pretty spectacular catches this year while being buried behind VJax, Floyd, Crayton, and Gates.

The participant list is starting to fill. Mourg's guy Tannehill, Devon Still, and Kendall Wright are the biggest names so far.

http://www.seniorbowl.com/announced.asp

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TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi St.
TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
TBA Boykin, B. DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
TBA Bullock, Randy PK 5-9 / 212 Texas A&M
TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
TBA Fuller, Jeff WR 6-4 / 220 Texas A&M
TBA Ganoway, T. RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
TBA Gray, Cyrus RB 5-10 / 200 Texas A&M
TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
TBA Mosley, B. OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
TBA Tannehill, R. QB 6-4 / 222 Texas A&M
TBA Troutman, J. OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
TBA Wright, K. WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor


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http://www.seniorbowl.com/article.asp?articleID=340

plus Herron, Posey, Adams, and Brewster

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I noticed that they have added OSU's Daniel Herron and DeVier Posey to their roster in the last few minutes. Posey needs the exposure after sitting most of his senior year.

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along with Tannehill I really like Fuller too... not a #1 WR but has a lot of talent.


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I think it is really dumb that players like Luck, who have spent four years in school and graduated cannot participate in the Senior Bowl.

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surprised a guy like Still that is likely mid-to-high 1st round is going to participate. alot of things that can go wrong for a guy like that and not much to gain by going (especially since the top picks don't make a boatload more $$$ anymore)


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Don't forget, he has this option this year. That's assuming the NFLPA actually goes through with it. Haven't heard anything about it since it was announced.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7202855/nflpa-stage-pre-draft-game-los-angeles

NFLPA to have Los Angeles game

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LOS ANGELES -- The NFL hasn't held a game of any kind in Los Angeles since 1994, but the NFL Players Association will bring the next best thing to the city in January.

The union will stage the first-ever AstroTurf NFLPA Collegiate Bowl at the Home Depot Center on Jan. 21. The game will be open to all draft-eligible players and serve as the culmination of a week of practices and events in Los Angeles when current and former NFL players will work with top NFL draft prospects on what will be expected of them on and off the field in the league.

The game is expected to draw 100 of the country's top NFL draft prospects, who will be split into two teams coached by Dick Vermeil and Tom Flores. It will be the first time Vermeil and Flores have faced each other in a game since Super Bowl XV, when Flores' Oakland Raiders beat Vermeil's Philadelphia Eagles 27-10.


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"It's a perfect setting for college players to transition into the pros," NFLPA assistant executive director Clark Gaines told ESPNLosAngeles.com. "This will be our first game and it will be historic. We think there will be a lot of players who will want to play in this game."

The players for the game will arrive in Los Angeles on Jan. 16 for a week of practices before the game, much like the Senior Bowl is run in Mobile, Ala. The biggest difference is the NFLPA's event also will be open to underclassmen who have entered their name into the draft.

"We thought about it long and hard and we decided if a player is draft eligible, he will be eligible to play in our game," Gaines said. "Who are we to deny him hjs livelihood? If juniors are giving up their eligibility and are past the point of return, they are draft eligible and we will invite them to play in the game."

The NFLPA had been loosely involved in a college game the past five years in San Antonio called the "Texas vs. The Nation Game". The game pitted college seniors who played college or high school football in Texas against a team of seniors from the rest of the country. The NFLPA, however, only licensed its name to the game and was not involved in the operations. After the NFL lockout, the NFLPA wanted to stage its own game which would be open to all draft-eligible players and also serve as the players' first introduction to the NFLPA and its members.

"We wanted to do this game because we wanted to get access to future members and educate them on the business of football and part of the business of football is not denying players their right to earn a living if they so choose," Gaines said. "No other game gives these juniors an opportunity to showcase their talents. Why would you tell them they can't play? These guys are future members of this organization. Some of these players will become officers in this union and they will make policies and I'm sure they will remember this game forever."

Since the game will be open to underclassmen applying for the draft, players such as USC quarterback Matt Barkley and offensive lineman Matt Kalil, who are projected to be taken in the top 10 of next year's NFL draft as juniors, would have the ability to play one last game at home and experience playing in a "bowl game" after USC was banned from the postseason the past two seasons.

The location of the game is noteworthy to anyone following the ongoing saga of the NFL's possible return to Los Angeles. Home Depot Center is owned and operated by AEG, which wants to build Farmers Field, a 68,000-seat football stadium in downtown Los Angeles. The NFLPA also will hold some of its week-long events at L.A. Live, including an event at the Nokia Theatre, which also is owned and operated by AEG, and is across the street from the proposed Farmers Field site.

"L.A. has not had a professional football presence for many years and we thought it would be a perfect opportunity now that they are trying to bring football back to L.A.," Gaines said. "This might be a boost in that effort. Having a team in L.A. is very important and if we can help in any way we will."

The Home Depot Center seats 27,000 fans and is the home of the Los Angeles Galaxy and Chivas USA of Major League Soccer and will host the MLS Cup on Nov. 20. Gaines said the venue is perfect for the game with over 90,000-seat stadiums like the Rose Bowl and Coliseum being too large. Tickets for the game will go on sale this week and start at $15.

Both of the coaches in the game have strong ties to Los Angeles, with Flores coaching the Los Angeles Raiders to their only Super Bowl title in L.A. and Vermeil serving as a coach with the Los Angeles Rams and UCLA Bruins from 1969-1975. He also coached the Rams, then in St. Louis, to their only Super Bowl title in 1999. Flores will coach the "American" team while Vermeil will coach the "National" team, similar to the format of the Pro Bowl, with the players being assigned teams when they arrive in Los Angeles.

"The NFL Players Association wants this to be more than just a game, they want it to be a NFL educational experience," Vermeil told ESPNLosAngeles.com. "This will be these players' first introduction to the National Football League without the pressure of making a team in training camp. By the time they are drafted and go to training camp they will have an understanding of what's expected of them, having worked with NFL coaches and players for a week. There won't be anything like this."

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I live in L.A. and this is the first I am hearing of this. I might have to make a run down to Carson.

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Updated Roster

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TBA 	Adams, Joe 	WR 	5-11 / 190 	Arkansas
TBA Adams, Mike OL 6-8 / 320 Ohio State
TBA Allen, Antonio DB 6-2 / 202 South Carolina
TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi St.
TBA Bequette, Jake DL 6-5 / 271 Arkansas
TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
TBA Boykin, B. DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
TBA Brewster, Mike OL 6-5 / 315 Ohio State
TBA Bullock, Randy PK 5-9 / 212 Texas A&M
TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
TBA Daniels, Mike DL 6-1 / 280 Iowa
TBA Ewing, Bradie RB 6-0 / 245 Wisconsin
TBA Foles, Nick QB 6-5 / 240 Arizona
TBA Fuller, Jeff WR 6-4 / 220 Texas A&M
TBA Ganaway, T. RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
TBA Gray, Cyrus RB 5-10 / 200 Texas A&M
TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
TBA Hayward, C. DB 5-11 / 188 Vanderbilt
TBA Herron, Dan RB 5-10 / 205 Ohio State
TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
TBA Lindley, Ryan QB 6-4 / 230 San Diego State
TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
TBA McNutt, Marvin WR 6-4 / 215 Iowa
TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
TBA Mosley, B. OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
TBA Nortman, Brad P 6-3 / 210 Wisconsin
TBA Posey, DeVier WR 6-2 / 210 Ohio State
TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
TBA Tannehill, R. QB 6-4 / 222 Texas A&M
TBA Toon, Nick WR 6-3 / 220 Wisconsin
TBA Troutman, J. OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
TBA Weeden, B. QB 6-4 / 218 Oklahoma State
TBA Wilson, R. QB 5-11 / 210 Wisconsin
TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
TBA Wojta, Kyle DS 6-2 / 230 Wisconsin
TBA Wright, K. WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor
TBA Zeitler, Kevin OL 6-4 / 315 Wisconsin



Still no announcement on who will replace Tannehill.

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Lots of fine prospects there. Looking forward to it.


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East WEst shrine game will be next saturday at 4 on NFL network and NFLPA bowl will be on Versus, well NBC sports now, they changed their name anyway same day at 6 i believe.

Really love these games. For many of those kids this is their only shot to really show the world what they have to offer.

I wont be at the senior bowl this year but atleast they have their practices on NFL network. It is gonna be a fun few weeks for draft fans.

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What does that have to do with him not going to the Senior Bowl?

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Absolutely nothing . . .

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Created a thread, because somehow I didn't see this one, until I posted it of course.




Easiest week for evaluating players, if they show them all, and if you have NFL Network.

The practices are the best because you get to see multiple players against multiple others (one on one typically). So you get a better read on footwork, handwork, and a 'lighter' simulation of real game action. Many players can improve their stock here, or not.. The combine is pure numbers, and no competition, except against 'air', or the numbers the other players put up, but this gives a better sense of how a player reacts with someone right in their face.

It is only seniors, but still its a good view on each player. The game is almost meaningless, cept its a football game to watch (woohoo!).


Anyway, here is the roster. Some will drop out due to various issues, family, health, etc, so others might come in last moment. I recommend you DVR it if you can, it is actually better than the 'wrap-up' shows about it, because you get to see all, or most, of the match-ups and not just the 'big-name' prospects.


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TBA Acho, Emmanuel LB 6-2 / 245 Texas
TBA Adams, Joe WR 5-11 / 190 Arkansas
TBA Adams, Mike OL 6-8 / 320 Ohio State
TBA Adcock, Levy OL 6-6 / 322 Oklahoma State
TBA Allen, Antonio DB 6-2 / 202 South Carolina
TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi State
TBA Barron, Mark DB 6-2 / 218 Alabama
TBA Bentley, Dwight DB 5-11 / 179 Louisiana-Lafayette
TBA Bequette, Jake DL 6-5 / 271 Arkansas
TBA Bergstrom, Tony OL 6-6 / 315 Utah
TBA Blackwell, Will OL 6-4 / 290 LSU
TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
TBA Boykin, Brandon DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
TBA Bradham, Nigel LB 6-3 / 240 Florida State
TBA Branch, Andre DL 6-5 / 260 Clemson
TBA Brewster, Mike OL 6-5 / 315 Ohio State
TBA Brown, James OL 6-4 / 312 Troy
TBA Brown, Zach LB 6-2 / 230 North Carolina
TBA Bullock, Randy PK 5-9 / 212 Texas A&M
TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
TBA Cole, Audie LB 6-5 / 239 NC State
TBA Coples, Quinton DL 6-6 / 290 North Carolina
TBA Cousins, Kirk QB 6-3 / 205 Michigan State
TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
TBA Criner, Juron WR 6-4 / 215 Arizona
TBA Curry, Vinny DL 6-3 / 263 Marshall
TBA Daniels, Mike DL 6-1 / 280 Iowa
TBA David, Lavonte LB 6-1 / 225 Nebraska
TBA Dennard, Alfonzo DB 5-10 / 205 Nebraska
TBA Diehl, Chad RB 6-2 / 265 Clemson
TBA Edwards, Patrick WR 5-9 / 175 Houston
TBA Egnew, Michael TE 6-6 / 245 Missouri
TBA Ewing, Bradie RB 6-0 / 245 Wisconsin
TBA Fleming, Jamell DB 5-11 / 191 Oklahoma
TBA Fletcher, Donnie DB 6-1 / 195 Boston College
TBA Foles, Nick QB 6-5 / 240 Arizona
TBA Fuller, Jeff WR 6-4 / 220 Texas A&M
TBA Ganaway, Terrance RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
TBA Gerhart, Garth OL 6-2 / 302 Arizona State
TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
TBA Graham, T.J. WR 6-0 / 180 NC State
TBA Gray, Cyrus RB 5-10 / 200 Texas A&M
TBA Green, Ladarius TE 6-6 / 236 Louisiana-Lafayette
TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
TBA Hayward, Casey DB 5-11 / 188 Vanderbilt
TBA Herron, Dan RB 5-10 / 205 Ohio State
TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
TBA Igwenagu, Emil TE 6-2 / 245 Massachusetts
TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
TBA Jackson, Asa DB 5-11 / 190 Cal Poly
TBA Jenkins, Janoris DB 5-10 / 183 North Alabama
TBA Johnson, Cam DL 6-4 / 270 Virginia
TBA Johnson, James-Michael LB 6-2 / 240 Nevada
TBA Johnson, Leonard DB 5-10 / 202 Iowa State
TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
TBA Jones, Dwight WR 6-4 / 225 North Carolina
TBA Kelemete, Senio OL 6-4 / 301 Washington
TBA Kendricks, Mychal LB 6-0 / 240 California
TBA Lindley, Ryan QB 6-4 / 230 San Diego State
TBA Linthicum, Brian TE 6-5 / 245 Michigan State
TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
TBA Martin, Markelle DB 6-1 / 198 Oklahoma State
TBA Martin, Mike DL 6-2 / 304 Michigan
TBA Maze, Marquis WR 5-10 / 180 Alabama
TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
TBA McNutt, Marvin WR 6-4 / 215 Iowa
TBA Menzie, DeQuan DB 6-0 / 198 Alabama
TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
TBA Mosley, Brandon OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
TBA Nortman, Brad P 6-3 / 210 Wisconsin
TBA Osemele, Kelechi OL 6-6 / 347 Iowa State
TBA Pead, Isaiah RB 5-11 / 200 Cincinnati
TBA Peterson, Deangelo TE 6-4 / 235 LSU
TBA Polk, Chris RB 5-11 / 222 Washington
TBA Posey, DeVier WR 6-2 / 210 Ohio State
TBA Powell, Tydreke DL 6-4 / 305 North Carolina
TBA Quick, Brian WR 6-5 / 220 Appalachian State
TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
TBA Randall, Kheeston DL 6-5 / 305 Texas
TBA Reyes, Kendall DL 6-4 / 295 Connecticut
TBA Robinson, Gerell WR 6-4 / 222 Arizona State
TBA Robinson, Keenan LB 6-3 / 240 Texas
TBA Robinson, Trenton DB 5-10 / 192 Michigan State
TBA Sanders, Zebrie OL 6-6 / 307 Florida State
TBA Schwartz, Mitchell OL 6-6 / 318 California
TBA Silatolu, Amini OL 6-3 / 320 Midwestern State
TBA Smelley, Brad TE 6-3 / 229 Alabama
TBA Smith, Harrison DB 6-2 / 214 Notre Dame
TBA Spence, Sean LB 6-0 / 224 Miami
TBA Steed, Ryan DB 5-11 / 190 Furman
TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
TBA Ta'amu, Alameda DL 6-3 / 337 Washington
TBA Tannehill, Ryan QB 6-4 / 222 Texas A&M
TBA Taylor, Brandon DB 6-0 / 194 LSU
TBA Thompson, Brandon DL 6-2 / 310 Clemson
TBA Toon, Nick WR 6-3 / 220 Wisconsin
TBA Troutman, Johnnie OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
TBA Upshaw, Courtney LB 6-2 / 265 Alabama
TBA Vlachos, William OL 6-1 / 294 Alabama
TBA Wagner, Bobby LB 6-1 / 232 Utah State
TBA Weeden, Brandon QB 6-4 / 218 Oklahoma State
TBA Wiggs, Carson PK 6-0 / 192 Purdue
TBA Wilson, Russell QB 5-11 / 210 Wisconsin
TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
TBA Wojta, Kyle DS 6-2 / 230 Wisconsin
TBA Wright, Kendall WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor
TBA Zeitler, Kevin OL 6-4 / 315 Wisconsin



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Shrine game, and Senior bowl. Just more reasons football beats every other sport.

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Senior Bowl practice woo hoo, love this stuff, wish I could be down there this week. Some serious talent on display.

Swartz the RT from Cal stonewalling the DE from Boise is huge. Dennard is a corner I was really high on, looks out of sink early on. Mike Adams looking like a pure RT imho. Just doesnt have the feet to be a good LT.

Working Isemele at RT forget it, move him back lmao. Not good when your RT doesnt move on the whistle.

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Compare Coples to Ingram...All week...

And Zach Brown...He scared me in that Bowl Game...


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I see coples as a pure 3-4 DE, just not athletic enough to be a big DE in the 4-3 and lacks the pash rush skills to beat the quality tackles.

Zach Brown I wouldn't draft in the 7th, completely off my board. I have yet to see why anyone has this kid top 100.

Ingram is one of the hottest guys in the draft, athletic, high motor, long arms and quick feet. Do not be surprised if he jumps way up the board and could end up top 10 talent. Seahawks and Bills are already scouting the kid pretty heavy.

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Here is a link to the weigh in numbers at http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Weigh-In.php .

I tried to copy an paste but the web page isn't formatted in a way to easily do it.


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QB, WRs emerge at Monday's North Sr Bowl practice
Posted on: January 24, 2012 8:21 am

Making a strong first impression at the Senior Bowl can send a player's stock skyrocketing and boost his rookie contract by millions of dollars.

Michigan State quarterback Kirk Cousins and California wide receiver Marvin Jones can't start writing checks just yet but if they continue the sparkling efforts turned in Monday during the North Team practices they could prove to be two of the big winners from this year's Senior Bowl.

Cousins out-shined Wisconsin's Russell Wilson and Boise State's Kellen Moore by attacking all levels of a talented North defense. His experience in a pro-style offense was obvious as he made quick decisions, showed accuracy short, middle and deep and thread the needle through tight spaces. Whereas his teammates struggled to find a rhythm with their new receiving corps, Cousins was hitting on all cylinders, spreading the ball all over the field and hitting his backs, tight ends and receivers on a variety of routes.

Like Cousins, Jones entered the Senior Bowl with significantly less hype that others at his position. Jones, who measured in at a shade under 6-2 and 200 pounds during the morning weigh-ins, was quick off the snap, showed burst out of his breaks to gain separation and the speed to slip past cornerbacks for big plays. He caught everything thrown his way, showing the hand strength to gather in passes thrown slightly off-target as well as the vision to track deep balls over his shoulder.

Jones wasn't the only wideout to make eye-popping plays on the day, though he was the most consistent.

A few uncharacteristic drops from Appalachian State's Brian Quick late in Monday's practice dampened an otherwise strong initial showing from the FCS All-American. Quick, who measured in at a chiseled 6-3 (and a 1/2) and 222 pounds Monday morning was the early star among receivers. Though not sudden off the line of scrimmage, his long-strides help him to quickly eat up the cushion and he showed terrific hand-eye coordination making several impressive catches out of some poor throws. Quick, in fact, arguably made the catch of the day when he snatched a quick out thrown high and wide by Moore. Quick used every bit of his height and long arms to pull the ball down while dragging both feet in bounds to secure the catch.

It took some strong catches from Jones, Quick and a few other North receivers to get Moore on track. The Boise State All-American appeared every bit as un-athletic as scouts feared when he measured in at a touch under 6-0 (5'11 and 3/4) and 191 pounds during the weigh-in. Worse, concerns about his arm strength appeared to be legitimate when he struggled connecting with his receivers on simple quick outs to open practice. As practice went on, however, Moore seemed to settle in and the accuracy and touch he demonstrated in throwing a staggering 142 touchdowns against just 28 interceptions during his record-breaking career with the Broncos were again on display. Moore is especially effective throwing down the seam, showing excellent touch to settle passes in over the linebacker and in front of the safety to slot receivers and tight ends.

Russell Wilson clearly has the arm strength to make NFL throws but was surprisingly tentative in his first Senior Bowl practice. Too often he stood flat-footed in the pocket and surveyed the field looking for easy completions. He attacked holes when he saw them, rifling in passes through tight coverage but also stared down his receivers on occasion and was nearly picked off a few times.

Of the North's receivers, Ohio State's Devier Posey provided the biggest challenge to a talented defensive backfield that included Nebraska's Alfonzo Dennard, graded by some scouts entering the year among the nation's elite senior prospects at any position. Posey's speed allowed him to slip past Dennard as well as Iowa State's Leonard Johnson and Boston College's Donnie Fletcher but too often Posey simply dropped the ball when his quarterbacks didn't place it perfectly. Posey struggled adjusting to passes slightly behind and had a couple of big play opportunities simply bounce to the ground because he allowed passes to get into his pads rather than catching the ball with his hands.

The concern was the exact opposite for his Big Ten rival Marvin McNutt from the Iowa Hawkeyes. McNutt has excellent size (6'2 1/2, 212 pounds), strength, hands and route-running to be a possession receiver in the NFL but didn't show much in terms of elusiveness or the speed to turn short and intermediate passes into big plays. He is a savvy route-runner, however, who was consistently open despite aggressive coverage from defensive backs.

It wasn't a standout practice for any of the North's defensive backs. Dennard showed his characteristic physicality in challenging big and small receivers, alike, but also proved vulnerable to double-moves, getting beaten over the top by Jones and McNutt, alike.

Oklahoma's Jamell Fleming and Cal Poly's Asa Jackson had their moments, each demonstrating a quick, low backpedal and good burst back to the ball.

Scouts will want to see improvement from Fletcher and Penn State's D'Anton Lynn. Each struggled to keep up with the North's receivers, showing average change of direction and speed. Fletcher was turned around on several occasions early in practice before the North's quarterbacks and receivers turned their attention to Lynn. The former Nittany Lion was victimized by Cousins and Wilson often as practice wore, perhaps an indication of their comfort with his limited playing speed and awareness after having played against him in the Big Ten.

Extra Notes: The Monday morning weigh-in put the spotlight on a couple of under-the-radar prospects scouts will no doubt be keeping an eye on this week. Quick looked every bit the part of a standout NFL receiver with his impressive measurables, as did Utah State inside linebacker Bobby Wagner (6'0, 241), Boise State running back Doug Martin (5'09, 219) and Michigan defensive lineman Mike Martin (6'1, 307). Though the Martins are not related, one wouldn't know it by their compact, heavily muscled builds... Clemson defensive end Andre Branch was among those who may have been caught in the bad weather that kept several from getting into Mobile as planned. NFL officials informed scouts that Branch would be participating this week but that he was not in Mobile for Monday morning's weigh-in... Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead got an opportunity to field punts late in Monday's practice, showing the concentration to catch the ball in traffic as well as the burst, elusiveness and vision you'd expect from the all-conference running back. Pead was rarely used in this capacity while with the Bearcats but turned some heads with his few opportunities Monday... Boise State's Shea McClellin (6-3, 248) lined up at defensive end for the Broncos but practiced at outside linebacker for the Minnesota Vikings' staff Monday. He showed good footwork in the bag drills early... web page

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I am blown away by the DB vs. receiver battles for the south team. Joe Adams and Rainer from from Florida are looking like Desean Jackson. Criner made one of the best catches you will ever see. Dwight Jones looks the part, love what I see from that kid. Green the TE big hands and makes a big target.

The DBs are equally impressive. Boykin and Janoris Jenkins catch the eye with their feet and hips. All of these kids are looking draftable.

I think what is making it better is actual NFL caliber QBs with Foles and Weeden.

Defense Zach Brown was looking really good in coverage and he actually seemed to be enjoying the game. I will have to reevaluate him.

Cordy Glenn, I like better at RT than guard, and OMG Melvin Ingram damn what a burst. DT from Clemson looking like a project that a lot have 1st round grades on. Howard the DT from florida tearing it up, unblockable . Upshaw, I might take him at 22 for DE nice power and a better burst than expected.

Ingram and Upshaw are the cream of the crop looking like top 15 talent. OT Zebrie sanders just not impressive. Coples looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

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Baylor linen Phil Blake is looking good at tonights practice.

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Hehe, you saw NFL network, didn't you?

I saw the same things but remember that those DL vs OL 1on1 is a red carpet drill for DL....

Also, I actually thought Sanders was one of the better OLs out there...he wasn't beat from the get go like most other OL

The Criner catch was real nice

That little Louy Lafayette CB looked pretty good too


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Sr. Bowl: South Practice - Day 1
By Joe Everett on Tuesday, 24th January 2012

1327351037098The South practice took part at Fairhope Stadium just outside of Mobile, Alabama while the North squad practiced at Ladd Peebles Stadium.

Rookie Draft will be LIVE on location in Mobile for full coverage on the players, the practices and the big game.

If you have any questions or other players to ask about, go ahead and drop a comment or hit me up on the twitterverse if that’s you’re thing @RookieDraft

&#8593; BRANDON WEEDEN - QB - OKLAHOMA STATE: Of all the South quarterbacks today, Weeden looked the best. He was crisp on his throws and displayed some of the best accuracy all day. Even Weeden’s arm strength was impressive with a number of throws audibly being heard hitting receivers. He definitely has a great command of the huddle and doesn’t appear to have any difficulty making the tough throws, like the deep outs, the slants, the flag routes or even taking the edge off on touch passes. A great start for Weeden thus far and if he keeps this up, people are going to start downplaying his age instead of blowing it out of proportion.

&#8593; JOE ADAMS - WR - ARKANSAS: Adams was definitely the star of South practice today, showing off his lightning quickness and ball skills all day. He absolutely torched Vanderbilt’s Casey Hayward on a flag route that was unfortunately overthrown by San Diego State’s Ryan Lindley. Adams seemed to haul in everything thrown his way and made a beautiful tip-toe grab on the sidelines that drew a few oohs and ahhs from the crowd. The Razorback definitely brings bigtime deep speed to the table but he has the ball skills and intelligence to win his matchups and consistently get open against the South corners.

&#8593; LADARIUS GREEN - TE - LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE: The big man had a terrific outing at Fairhope, showing off terrific ball skills and agility that defies his super sized frame. Green twice made plays on overthrown passes in the skeleton drill portion and dominated in the seven on seven drills. He made a wicked catch on an underthrown pass that was directly over Texas linebacker Keenan Robinson’s head but the impressive part is that he made the catch look easy and quickly went upfield for more yards. Green was a runner up for the star of day one award just behind Adams but regardless, he’s going to do a lot for his draft stock if he keeps up his stellar play.

&#8593; JURON CRINER - WR - ARIZONA: I’ll go ahead and confess my bias for a prospect that I’m pretty smitten with, as the receiver from Arizona has great ball skills, terrific size and he has a much better release than he’s given credit for. Criner had a great showing with a number of consecutive catches that was only broken by a slant route that was broken up by “Bill” Bently of Louisiana-Lafayette. Criner torched Ryan Steed on a nine route up the right sideline and there weren’t any moves made on the route, he just took him for a ride. The Wildcat made a play on everything and converted on some poorly thrown passes but also made some plays that should have his stock a little more buoyant as the draft draws near.

&#8593; DWIGHT “BILL” BENTLY - CB - LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE: I have to credit Scott Wright of Draftcountdown.com for being one of the first to tip me off on Bently but I should also credit Bently for making it blatantly clear today that he’s a player. He consistently drew praise from Raheem Morris, the Redskins’ new defensive backs coach, and for good reason, thanks to his physical play and great instincts in coverage. He intercepted a Nick Foles throw on a pass intended for Jeff Fuller who was running a curl route but Bently actually beat him on the outside to cut the angle and take the football back the other direction. If there was a defensive MVP of day one, it would have to go to “Bill” Bently from my view of the sidelines.

&#8596; JANORIS JENKINS - CB - NORTH ALABAMA: The former Florida Gator had a so-so day, having issues lineup once and biting on a double move by Edwards. He is one of the more physical corners on the roster with his ability to bump receivers and close quickly on ball carriers. He absolutely blew up a check down pass after a clear out attempt by the receiver but he closed out the lane and knocked Terrence Ganaway out of bounds into a couple of scouts. (That’ll teach ‘em) All in all, a decent start but he’s definitely a player that I simply have to see a full week of because of the background issues that haunt him.

&#8596; RYAN STEED - CB - FURMAN: Steed had his moments of impressiveness but also some regrettable lost battles against the South receivers. He was right on top of Fuller on a curl route that he was able to break up and he also beat Fuller to the football on an outroute by breaking on the ball and cutting directly underneath the intended receiver. Steed did have his difficulties with double moves and was beaten by Juron Criner on a nine route easily that Steed almost caught back up to but his two misteps put him out of that matchup. There’s no question that he’s an NFL player and has terrific athleticism, I’d just like to see a little more consistency tomorrow.

&#8596; JEFF FULLER - WR - TEXAS A&M: Fuller had an up and down day today but some of the drops I will credit to first day jitters and even though he lost his footing twice during the practice, the field at Fairhope stadium was completely soaked so I’ll be interested to watch Fuller at Ladd Peebles tomorrow. The guy made a really nice adjustment on an underthrown Ryan Lindley pass and also was able to recover after a miscommunication between he and Nick Foles, as Fuller turned inside initially but Foles threw a back shoulder pass and Fuller was able to spin around off of his jump and haul the football in but as I mentioned above he had a very difficult time matching up with Steed.

&#8596; TERRENCE GANAWAY - RB - BAYLOR: I wasn’t really impressed with Ganaway, who had a drop in the sekeleton drills and did not look explosive at all through the running lane drills. Ganaway was another player that suffered through footing issues but I’ll once again, chalk that up to the field conditions at Farihope, either way a runner has to find a way to overcome the elements. There certainly wasn’t a lot to glean from today’s work so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt here but he should be able to show a lot more when the do the pass blocking drills, backs on backers and more live scrimmages.

&#8595; PATRICK EDWARDS - WR - HOUSTON: Edwards has impressive speed and his back story is one to know and love, as he’s a former walk-on that has been through a rough patch of injuries. He did, however have a few drops on the day and isn’t a consistent hands catcher. He had an extremely noticeable drop out of the slot, as he ran a nice turnaround over the middle but let the ball bounce right off his chest. He also had a big drop on a slant route that, to his credit, he was wide open on but it was another pass that he let into his body and he simply could not control.

&#8595; RYAN LINDLEY - QB - SAN DIEGO STATE: Maybe it’s because Weeden looked so polished and that’s what made Lindley appear to be extremely rough around the edges but his ball placement was terribly inconsistent today. Lindley has adequate arm strength and a nice delivery but his release is a bit elongated and his accuracy is still an issue on all ranges off attempts. He had a number of overthrows on deep routes and his mid range game is lacking, as he twice hit Jeff Fuller on the shoe laces and also couldn’t seem to throw his receivers open on the large number of slant routes that were run today.

DRAFT NOTES: Bulldogs OG Cordy Glenn actually saw a lot of reps at left tackle and the big man from Georgia looked very comfortable there. Although his future is more likley at the guard position, he’d be able to play on the outside in a pinch and could feasibly play on the right side with his length and power.

Arkansas DE Jake Bequette is listed here in Mobile as an “LB” and that’s exactly where Bequette saw a lot of action in today’s practice but it was not to his benefit, as his 271 pound frame took quite the effort to manipulate in space. There are certainly teams looking at him as an outside linebacker but he will be best served playing with his hand in the dirt as a base end.

It looks like the injury bug has already biten the South team with not only Marquis Maze of Alabama coming in with a hamstring injury, but now Texas A&M RB Cyrus Gray had to leave practice early with an undisclosed injury. I wasn’t able to confirm with Cyrus what his injury is but he appeared to be walking fine and at one point in the practice told a Raiders scout that he’s going to play in the game. I’ll definitely follow up on Gray and any other injuries that pop up… probably should use the word “pop” but oh well. web page

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Day 2 Practice Notes: South.

Afternoon practice in Ladd Peebles Stadium was overcast, but the temperature was warmer and less windy than the morning session. Overall, this has been an enjoyable week in the Mobile area, balmy compared to prior years.

How to Succeed at the Senior Bowl, Rule 3: Listen up: if you can learn fast in Mobile, you can learn fast in the league.

TRENCH POSITIONS:

North Carolina linebacker Zach Brown was extremely impressive today. Brown can stick with running backs and tight ends in coverage, and displayed athleticism with several nice pass break ups in drills. Brown is a complete player who can disrupt run plays, both up the middle and from sideline-to-sideline. He stops and starts on a dime and seems to diagnose where the play is going a touch faster than the other linebackers. Brown has top notch speed and agility, and should be an interesting player to watch during the Indianapolis Combine. Brown currently carries a solid first round grade.

Alabama-Birmingham offensive tackle Matt McCants is an interesting prospect. He has great length and foot speed, and usually finds the right positioning to get in the way of the rusher. McCants even had some success against Quinton Coples (who has been otherwise un-blockable this week). On the down side, McCants needs to get stronger in the run game and can be overwhelmed with the bull-rush. McCants is a finesse player at this point, but a player with his agility will get the attention of scouts. In summary, McCants is a mid-round project but has potential to start in the future.

Florida State offensive tackle Zebrie Sanders puts in an extremely high effort but it is not always controlled. He can get overextended and lose balance, and spends too much time on the turf. Like McCants, he has above average foot speed and could be developed by the right positional coach to eventually start in the league. Sanders carries a mid round grade due to his raw technique.

Clemson defensive tackle Brandon Thompson showed he could get up the field, and in drills he often shed blocks of interior linemen to make plays in the back field. He's a tough guy to move, and clogs up the middle. Thompson is true nose tackle in any defensive system and even offers a little pass rush, which was surprising. Thompson is a likely top 100 selection, pending workouts.

North Carolina defensive tackle Tydreke Powell is an absolute load at the point of attack, and is an excellent run defender. Powell doesn't offer much in the pass game and is probably a late round, two-down player in the league.

Texas linebacker Keenan Robinson showed very good speed getting to the ball carrier, and usually delivered a big hit upon arrival. Robinson is another player who could burn up the track in Indianapolis. Robinson appears to have the potential to be a starter at multiple spots in a 4-3 system, but will have to perform well on the track to solidify that projection, and garner a top 100 pick.

Georgia center Ben Jones was solid in practice today. He wasn't flashy, and he wasn't amazing, but he's a hard-hat, lunch-pail tough guy type who just gets the job done by any means necessary. Jones is a mid-to-late round pick who could eventually start in the right system.

SKILL POSITIONS:

Oklahoma State quarterback Brandon Weeden is having a great week so far. He throws an accurate football and shows excellent decision making in finding the open man. On the down side he can be flat footed in the pocket. But still, a reasonable case could be made he is the best quarterback in town.

So, what is his draft value? Weeden is a controversial prospect because of his relatively advanced age. Some believe he should be a first round draft pick, based purely on his performance. Ah, if only life were fair, that might happen. Scouts are worried about wear on his arm from baseball, and GM's are worried that he will be in his mid-thirties when he reaches his second contract. He will need to adjust to the speed of the league and it takes some quarterbacks as long as 8 years to make that adjustment. He would have to be great right away, and that's a tough expectation.

As such, a conservative grade for this player is the mid rounds, possibly as high as the late third. There are projections that have him higher than that, and we shall see. To be clear, he's not a bad player, just carrying the baggage of his age. On a personal note, I root for this player, as there is a lot to like about his game, (and even more to like about his intangibles as a leader).

On the other side of the spectrum, San Diego State quarterback Ryan Lindley is getting blasted for his accuracy issues (which are significant). But let's run down the positives: he has an extremely live arm, he has been successful throwing slants and the deep ball, and unlike other quarterbacks here, he stands much taller than six feet tall. Lindley has the upside to improve and is an interesting late-round developmental backup prospect.

Arizona wide out Juron Criner had an outstanding day, making multiple plays all over the field. Notably, Criner made the catch of the week to date with a wonderful one-handed grab of a ball thrown well behind him. As with all the wide receivers, his draft value will depend on workouts, and he looks like a long stride who might have trouble timing well on the track. Regardless, he has possession and red zone value and certainly helped his stock today. Criner is a mid-round prospect with upside to go top 100 with a good 40-yard dash.

Houston wide out Patrick Edwards might be the smallest player in Mobile this week, weighing in at 168 pounds. Still, he makes the most of his gifts, and completely sells out to make plays. Edwards bailed out his quarterback on several occasions and displayed both sure hands and deep speed during today's practice. Edwards is a mid-round prospect who could go higher, if he times as fast as he appears to run.

Louisiana-Lafayette cornerback Dwight "Bill" Bentley is a smooth coverage player who backpedals well and drives hard to the football when it is thrown. Bentley had an exceptional interception in drills, diving to snag a tipped ball just before it hit the ground. Bentley could easily find his way into the second round, pending workouts.

Vanderbilt cornerback Casey Hayward is a sticky coverage player who exhibits above average awareness of both the receiver and the football. Hayward seems to lack elite speed and can be beat on deep routes. But in off-man coverage or a zone system, keeping the play in front of him, Hayward excels. Hayward plays smart and there are few wasted motions in his game. Hayward will be graded higher by Cover-2 or Zone schemes and could sneak into the top 100 if the right team comes along. Probably more of a top 150 pick after workouts.

South Carolina defensive back Antonio Allen had the hardest hit of the day, running headlong into Vick Ballard and making the stadium go OOOOH. That hit was as much Ballard's doing as Allen's but either way it was a giant collision. Allen can struggle in coverage assignments but he's a top tackler and a possible late round pick.
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Day 2 Practice Notes: North.

Another day in paradise: sunny but gusty conditions at Ladd-Peebles stadium for this morning's North practice. The Vikings coaching staff ran a professional and peppy practice, with the time periods clearly marked on field clocks.

How to Succeed at the Senior Bowl, Rule 2: Go ahead, start a fight. Scouts and coaches love it.

TRENCH POSITIONS:

Ohio State center Mike Brewster and Michigan defensive tackle Mike Martin didn't quite come to blows, but they were chippy in drills, and on-lookers love that sort of fire. The fact that these two players were from rival schools added to the drama. Overall, Martin had an excellent day. He's got a non-stop motor, plays with leverage and can gap-shoot to blow up the play. Not a fit for 2 gap defenses but certain teams should grade him out as a solid mid-round pick.

As has been noted on other sites, Ohio State tackle Mike Adams is the cream of the crop on the North offensive line. Despite being very tall, he's graceful and easy out of his stance and controls the man in front of him. He has great hands and doesn't get beat often. This player is likely an instant starter at either tackle position and should be in play in the top half of the first round.

One player who did get the best of Adams at least once was Virginia defensive end Cam Johnson. Johnson has a great first step and had to cycle through a variety of pass rush moves to get the job done, but finally beat the Buckeye with a nice swim move in the Pit drills.

UConn defensive end Kendall Reyes had an excellent day. He showed ability to turn the corner on edge rushes and held the point of attack against the run. He was disruptive in 11-on-11 drills and is an overall extremely underrated player. Pending workouts, Reyes' value is in the mid-round area, on the cusp of top 100.

Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler is an efficient blocker in pass protection, and often buried his man in run game. The word mauler is often overused but Zeitler is the classic definition of an interior mauler.

Utah offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom was a bit of a sleeper before this week, but scouts are waking up to his play. He had a great morning in drills, pancaking a defender who shall remain nameless in the Pit, and generally doing a great job in blocking. He has exceptional technique and should be a great fit for teams that emphasize the zone running scheme.

SKILL POSITIONS:

Boise State safety George Iloka had an excellent interception in 11-on-11 drills where he laid out for the football and snatched it with good hands. Iloka is impressing scouts with his aggression, pursuit and break to the ball. For a taller safety he has fluid hips and that is a rare combination. It should be noted that Illoka is roughly the same size as some of the linebackers in this game, and he's really making an impact. We are still early in the process, but If he can work out well, could be a second or third round pick.

Appalachian State wide out Brian Quick is raw in route running but displayed sure hands and the ability to climb the ladder and bring down high passes. Coaches undoubtedly see a lot of potential to mold.

Iowa State cornerback Leonard Johnson had a good day, directing traffic and sticky in coverage. He had an excellent deep pass break-up in 11-on-11 and can jam well off the line. Overall, Leonard is an effective man-to-man defender, and his stock could be on the rise.
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Oklahoma State quarterback Brandon Weeden impresses, and other South Day 1 practice notes from Rookie Draft.
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Boise State runningback Doug Martin impresses, and other North Day 1 practice notes from Draft Countdown.
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Old Dominion defensive tackle Ronnie Cameron draft prospect journal.
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Day 1 Practice Notes: South.

After this morning's rain shower, Fairhope's usually immaculate grass field had sloppy conditions that favored the defense. Quarterback-to-center exchanges were messy and there was slipping by players on both sides of the ball. Receivers had to be extra sure of their grip on catches and everyone was challenged by the new N.F.L. footballs. All-in-all, it was a good test for players in less than ideal situations.

As usual, the first day of Senior Bowl practices are in shells, (just shoulder pads and shorts) and it can be difficult for players to judge the difference between full contact and half speed. As a side gig I might start a training course in how to succeed at the Senior Bowl. Rule 1: Except for hitting the QB, go full speed, even when they say otherwise. Without further ado, let's get to the practice notes.

TRENCH POSITIONS:

Georgia offensive lineman Cordy Glenn answered questions today about his positional future; there is no doubt that he can play tackle in the league, and in fact was the first team left tackle for the South in team drills. As expected he was a load in the run game and mauled players in 9-on-7 drills. For a man of his size, he has remarkable foot quickness and does an adequate job in pass protection. He certainly wasn't perfect against edge rushers, of which the South squad has several notable talents, but he does the job. With 35 inch plus arms, he's a chore to get around. Equivalent pro player comparisons might be to Marcus McNeill or Shawn Andrews (thanks to Chris Steuber for that last comparison, it is especially astute). Like Andrews, his value might peak at the middle of the first round.

North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples was among the class of the South defense. Coples is a pass rush terror and had several clean wins in the Pit drills. He displayed up-field explosion and a decent variety of moves. On the down side, he was having some trouble getting off of run blocks against Cordy Glenn, but even in that respect he improved as practice progressed. These two players had great battles. There are still questions about this player's consistency, but if we use only today as a guide, Coples might be the highest selected player in town this week.

Alabama defensive end Courtney Upshaw is another outstanding South defender who will likely be selected extremely high in April's draft. He's excellent setting the edge against the run, and also can burst in the backfield to disrupt the pocket. He might not display impressive timed speed but he has excellent short-area quickness. He's great in pursuit and shutting down plays to his side of the field. There is much to like about Upshaw, but one notable aspect is his hand-play. He's got a violent punch that displaces the blocker, and that skill is hard to find among college seniors. Most project this player as a 3-4 outside linebacker, but he's likely scheme-diverse and could help any team.

South Carolina defensive end Melvin Ingram shares many of the same qualities as his South teammate Upshaw. He's stout against the run and aggressive rushing the passer. Like Upshaw, he's excellent in pursuit from the back side. Ingram lacks a refined punch, and neither player are likely to impress over 40-yards. But in the box area he's a versatile player that gets out of the blocks quickly and often disrupts the play. Ingram is a player which I look forward to watching in the upcoming full-contact practices, as he has a tendency for making big plays.

SKILL POSITIONS:

Arkansas wide out Joe Adams was impressive for his speed and ability to create separation. He's a solid route runner with above average hands and has potential to be a true deep threat. Although he weighed in light, at 174 pounds, he is built for speed and is helping his stock with his play on the field. This player was thought to be a sleeper mid-round target, and while that might still be true, the secret is quickly getting out.

Arizona quarterback Nick Foles is a smooth thrower that often takes what the defense gives. He will check down rather than force a bad throw, and while that isn't always exciting, the scouts appreciate that in a signal caller. Foles has great height and a live arm, but he also throws a catchable football. Past the top two, there is still a spot open for that annual third quarterback in the mid to late first round. Foles didn't seal that up with today's practice but he's put his name in the conversation.

Texas A&M wide out Jeff Fuller showed sure hands and had an impressive day. The highlight was a sweet diving catch along the deep sideline, bodying out the defender along the way. Fuller had a tough year but has always had the talent to make an impact. Fuller could be on his way to having a very profitable week.

Mississippi State tailback Vick Ballard made two excellent over the shoulder grabs along the sideline in skeleton drills. This was somewhat unexpected, as Ballard is known primarily for his tough running. Undoubtedly that skill will be on display when the hitting ramps up tomorrow, but for now the hands were a pleasant surprise.

Finally, Georgia cornerback Brandon Boykin and North Carolina wide out Dwight Jones had several excellent battles in coverage. Boykin is crafty and active, what he lacks in ideal measurables, he makes up in instincts and awareness Boykin is a player who could rise up the boards, not just for his coverage, but for his skills in the return game. As for Jones, he's a rare athlete, who, with a solid week, could capture the attention of scouts in an overall weak wide out year. web page

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Thanks Mourg,

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Utah offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom was a bit of a sleeper before this week, but scouts are waking up to his play. He had a great morning in drills, pancaking a defender who shall remain nameless in the Pit, and generally doing a great job in blocking. He has exceptional technique and should be a great fit for teams that emphasize the zone running scheme.




Good to hear my choice for a RT prospect is having a good showing for himself.

And we won't have to use a high draft selection to draft this guy. He has good value for the position and will most likely be available in rounds 3-4.


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Drafttek has been all about Bergstrom for a while now.

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Water, right now I gotta say the RT that I want is Mitchell Swartz from Cal. He has long arms, good enough feet and real power at the position. He also has a nasty streak. I hope we can get an extra 2nd cause I would spend it on him.

I am starting to come around on Curry also, he looks a lot like Sheard. We will have to hit DE early at 22. Love what I have seen from Ingram as well. Then we have Mercilus and Perry.

Trade down a few spots 1a. Tannehill 1b. highest rated DE 2a. Dwight Jones 2b. Swartz. Heck might aswell use our 3rd and a 4th to get back into the 2nd and get one of those talented corners.

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I'm not asking for much .. But I want a Starting / Slobber knocker RT and a Fast / Nasty RDE ,,, then round it off with a fast/fast/fast WR and I will let Heckert pick the rest ... I'm still not on his side yet !

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Joe Adams was the fast receiver that I have been pimping for the last few months. I thought we could get him in the 4th but his workouts at the seniorbowl are shooting him up the boards. I think someone will take him in the 2nd.

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I keep wondering what is going to happen to my boy Greg Childs out of ARK... Before he got hurt ( season before last ) he was unstoppable .. He just seemed to get lost in the line up this year .. I thought for sure he was a first rounder ! Nice burst , good hands , separation , you name it , he had it ..

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I would not mind him, Broyles or Criner in the middle rounds. All guys that seem to be getting lost in the shuffle of this draft season.

(note: everything I have read on Broyles indicates he will likely barely be ready for training camp from his injury. a chance whatever team drafts him just puts him on the PUP list to be safe and his rookie year is just a risk/reward on what he might give in the future)


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Schwartz won't go in the top 2 rounds but needless to say I like him a lot too (see my "All Value Team" in Heldawg's value thread)

I would like extra mid round picks but I would not trade down just to trade down...only way I trade down is if both QBs are gone and we decide to not counter some crazy offer from WAS or MIA for RG3...I'd be open to start the Claiborne or Blackmon sweepstakes then

This WR class is looking better every day...1 more reason to NOT draft Blackmon at 4...he'll be a good or even great WR but a WR touches the ball just 3-7 times per game...

In a trade down scenario I'd love to trade down with the Pats from 4 to 17 for their 31/32 and 63/64 (value chart value matches)...Pats would add a Top 5 guy like Claiborne or Blackmon or Richardson...whoever they covet...and still have a mid 2nd rounder from OAK and all their other picks...but would Belly EVER do something liek this? maybe the Eagles who have 2 2nds?

if we could land this NE trade, we would have 5 picks in the top 2 rounds and 6 top 70 picks

Imagine something like:

17 QB Tannehill
22 WR Wright
32 DE Curry
37 CB Gilmore
64 RT Potter
68 RB Martin

We would redshirt our 1st pick for 1 or 2 seasons and still look at having added 5 instant starters...and that'd be just the top 3 round picks...I expect to find 1 or 2 more starters and 3-4 contributors in rounds 4-7 too...


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Pats have 27 and either 31 or 32. It is really hard to say just how far Heckert would be willing to drop. I think at 4, we are going to get some offers especially if Martin performs how I expect him to. I feel he will be the guy to make that big jump up the board and we could easily see, Luck, Kalil and Martin go 1,2,3 with RG3 sitting there for us to take or someone wanting to trade up like the Skins and Seahawks although I expect Manning to go to the Seahawks if he hits the market.

The Depth at WR and Corner combined with the lack of depth at LT is going to change things up a bit before its over.

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