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Sure it's somewhat of a longer shot, but it would make sense with regards to this front office. I could see them signing Kolb if he became a free agent ..... or possibly even a trade target with a 3rd/4th round pick. He wouldn't be my first choice, I think that he would be an upgrade over McCoy, but I don't know how much of an upgrade. It is definitely a move that I could see Holmgren pulling off. Cleveland Browns' draft projections: Can we hold off, please? -- Tony Grossi's blog | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/cleveland_browns_draft_project_1.htmlThe Philadelphia Eagles evaluated Kolb, projected him into their West Coast offense, and selected Kolb with the fourth pick of the second round. Kolb was groomed to be the successor to Donovan McNabb, but coach Andy Reid fell in love with Michael Vick along the way and Kolb was traded last year to the Arizona Cardinals. * Speaking of Kolb: The Cardinals signed Kolb to a five-year contract extension for a reported $63 million, including a guarantee of $20 million. Kolb proceeded to suffer two debilitating injuries and post a 2-6 record as the starter. Backup John Skelton created a controversy by going 6-2 in place of Kolb. Kolb is owed a $7 million roster bonus from the Cards in March. There is some debate in Phoenix about if it would be wiser for the Cards to cut their losses, release Kolb and suffer the cap hit rather than invest further in him. If that happened, Kolb would rise to the top of the list of quarterback options for the Browns. Why? Kolb was a much better quarterback in the West Coast offense in which he was schooled in Philadelphia. Arizona doesn't run it. Also, Kolb was drafted by Philadelphia partly based on evaluations made by Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur -- the Browns' top two football men.
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I'd say that this is a FAR stronger possibility than ANY other QB acquisition yet discussed on here... but it's moot unless they cut him loose.
There is NO WAY that I'd trade for him.
Two things, however:
Foremost is the injury concerns.
Secondly, why not just try to find a Kevin Kolb in the draft that will be there in the 2nd or 3rd round? You lose the acquired experience, but you also theoretically lose the injury history and get younger at the same time.
Browns is the Browns
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Agreed. 0.00% chance of a trade. 90+% chance of getting cut.
His contract is far too high for what his current value is. He underwhelmed to say the least. John Skelton completely outplayed him.
With that said he looks like a slight upgrade on both McCoy and Wallace. He probably has the most value to us and Philly. Here is his chance to be the starter.
While I'm not diametrically opposed to this it certainly wouldn't elicit more that a "yay" from me. Do I see him making it through all 6 division games without being concussed? No.
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Sure it's somewhat of a longer shot, but it would make sense with regards to this front office.
I could see them signing Kolb if he became a free agent ..... or possibly even a trade target with a 3rd/4th round pick.
He wouldn't be my first choice, I think that he would be an upgrade over McCoy, but I don't know how much of an upgrade. It is definitely a move that I could see Holmgren pulling off.
Cleveland Browns' draft projections: Can we hold off, please? -- Tony Grossi's blog | cleveland.com
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/cleveland_browns_draft_project_1.html
The Philadelphia Eagles evaluated Kolb, projected him into their West Coast offense, and selected Kolb with the fourth pick of the second round. Kolb was groomed to be the successor to Donovan McNabb, but coach Andy Reid fell in love with Michael Vick along the way and Kolb was traded last year to the Arizona Cardinals.
* Speaking of Kolb: The Cardinals signed Kolb to a five-year contract extension for a reported $63 million, including a guarantee of $20 million.
Kolb proceeded to suffer two debilitating injuries and post a 2-6 record as the starter. Backup John Skelton created a controversy by going 6-2 in place of Kolb.
Kolb is owed a $7 million roster bonus from the Cards in March. There is some debate in Phoenix about if it would be wiser for the Cards to cut their losses, release Kolb and suffer the cap hit rather than invest further in him.
If that happened, Kolb would rise to the top of the list of quarterback options for the Browns.
Why?
Kolb was a much better quarterback in the West Coast offense in which he was schooled in Philadelphia. Arizona doesn't run it. Also, Kolb was drafted by Philadelphia partly based on evaluations made by Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur -- the Browns' top two football men.
I would Welcome a Healthy Kolb and an open Competition between him and McCoy. There is no Question they will bring in Competition but When I listen to Holmgren talk about QB's he sums up exactly what I feel. He talks about QB's such as Dalton and Flacco thriving because of the situations they were put into, he talks about the Conditions around the QB and he talks about the time and patience it takes a QB and he talked about the other uncontrollable aspects such as the new Systems, young Players, the lack of offseason.
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If the Browns get him it will aggravate me every time someone says his name. Because if the "L" in Kolb really is silent, and Kolb is pronounced "Kobb", then I think its a good thing his name isn't Fulk.
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Please not...he'd be barely an upgrade over Colt....the thought of Heckert and Shurmur liking him out of College scares me a little when it comes to their evaluation skills for QB prospects, as Kolb was VERY raw and a monumental overdraft at the time...some work ethic concerns on top...no thanks I want no part of Kolb...only maybe if we sign him to compete with Colt and still draft a QB high to sit for 1-2 years
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He was definitely a fish out of water in Arizona. He is 100% a WCO QB. It does make sense that this could be the next QB move that Holmgren makes ...... even if it costs us a draft pick.
I would rather stay put and take RG3 ...... but I could definitely see Holmgren making a move here. They could always agree to renegotiate the QB before any trade takes place.
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I'd say that this is a FAR stronger possibility than ANY other QB acquisition yet discussed on here... but it's moot unless they cut him loose.
There is NO WAY that I'd trade for him.
Two things, however:
Foremost is the injury concerns.
Secondly, why not just try to find a Kevin Kolb in the draft that will be there in the 2nd or 3rd round? You lose the acquired experience, but you also theoretically lose the injury history and get younger at the same time.
Correct - the last part.
It amazes me - well, maybe not so much - but it surprises me that we want to go after other teams junk - Kolb (second round pick that hasn't done much in the nfl), or Flynn (7th round pick that hasn't done much in the nfl)...........and yet we hold our 3rd round pick to blame for our teams failures this year.
Brady was a 7th round pick - and he didn't do much his first couple of years, right?
Then, we look at all the first round busts at qb over the years...........The list is too long.
What seems to be the key for most qb's?
Time. Newton, some will say. 6-10 I will say.
Shoot, Kolb went 2-6 as a starter this year in Arizona. Skelton (did he even play college football?) went 6-2.
If we can get a "top rated" qb with our first pick, fine. I'm more and more of the opinion that we shouldn't even make a trade at ALL for a higher pick.
Too many holes to fill on this team. Let's not be stupid and pick up some huge contract, or offer some huge contract - for a backup from somewhere else.
Let's draft one - in round 2, or 3, or 4, or 5, or 6, or 7.
What's that? Brian Sipe was a 13th round pick? He did pretty okay with a good running game, a decent d, and some darn good receivers, didn't he?
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While I'd not oppose such a pick up if he's cut, I'd be very cautious about any trades.. he was dinged up in Philly (a concussion I think) and now in Arizona. For me, the injury history might be the real red flag.
But to get him after he's cut.. no problem.. Bring him in, if he wins the job, so be it, if he doesn't, the only real loss is money and Lerner has enough of that to absorb the hit. That's almost no risk to try it.
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I don't see how the Cardinals can cut Kolb. They just gave up a ton to get him and then he didn't get an off-season to learn a new offense and then he got injured multiple times.
Not only that, it's not like the Cardinals have their QB on the roster. John Skelton was only as good as Kolb not any better.
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Not only that, it's not like the Cardinals have their QB on the roster. John Skelton was only as good as Kolb not any better.
2-6 vs. 6-2.
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Not only that, it's not like the Cardinals have their QB on the roster. John Skelton was only as good as Kolb not any better.
2-6 vs. 6-2.
 sounds like reason enough to cut thier losses to me...
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I think I would rather send a late round pick to Philadelphia and bring in Kafka. I thought he looked good in preseason. I never understood the fascination with Kolb.
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John Skelton was only as good as Kolb not any better.
Skelton actually looked really nice at times. He outplayed Kolb and certainly outplayed his draft position. If I'm the Cardinals GM he's my guy in 2012.
I'd gladly give up our second round pick for the guy and no way would the Cards even consider it.
He's going to be a Top 15 QB next year and there's no obvious ceiling for him in my eyes.
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Skelton?
I watched every Cardinals game (my brother is a Cardinals fan, I have Sunday Ticket, it happens). Skelton was bad most of the time he played. The best thing he did was just throw the ball up to Fitzgerald whenever he got into trouble.
The main reason for the Cardinals improved record with Skelton at QB was the improved play of their defense.
Skelton even got pulled one game because he was playing so bad. Who was playing behind him? Richard Bartel. Skelton threw 11 TD's to 14 INT's and had a 55% completion rate.
I would say Skelton is 2007 Derek Anderson, but he was never that good in the first place. And now team's will have tape on him.
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The cap goes up a lot in almost every year .... and if a team plays it right, they can dump some salary without too much damage.
I think that Heckert and Shurmur both know Kolb pretty well. Like I said, he's not my first choice, but if he becomes available, I could see him as a possible target making sense.
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Kolb would be like my 12th choice, let's see:
1. Luck (obviously not going to happen)
2. McCoy
3. Flynn
4. Wallace
5. RGIII
6. Tannehill
7. Orton
8. Campbell
Alright, maybe not 12th, but he's way down the list.
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Went and looked at his game logs at NFL.com
Surprised.
I must have caught his good games and missed his bad ones. Looks like he had some real clunkers.
But the ones I did see I liked what I saw. Big guy, big arm which is a good start. Threw for 270+ yards in 5 of his 8 games. I saw the Browns game obviously and caught the Seattle and SF games as well.
Looked good to me. Like a real find in the later rounds coming from a small school.
By the way...the Arizona OL is putrid at pass pro. Having Fitz to chuck it up to probably balances that back out to even.
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Top 15 QB?
No.
Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Schuab, Manning, Romo, Cutler, Newton, Ryan, Stafford, Vick, Rivers.
That's 14 guys right there off the top of my head.
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No.
Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Schuab, Manning, Romo, Cutler, Newton, Ryan, Stafford, Vick, Rivers.
That's 14 guys right there off the top of my head.
Ok....backtracking....top 20? 
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Kolb would be like my 12th choice, let's see:
1. Luck (obviously not going to happen)
2. McCoy
3. Flynn
4. Wallace
5. RGIII
6. Tannehill
7. Orton
8. Campbell
Alright, maybe not 12th, but he's way down the list.
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Agreed. 0.00% chance of a trade. 90+% chance of getting cut.
His contract is far too high for what his current value is. He underwhelmed to say the least. John Skelton completely outplayed him.
% chance of getting cut HAS to be a lot lower than that. $20M guaranteed over a 5 year period means that they'd take a $16M cap hit cutting or trading him.
Rotoworld has it as a 6 year 65M contract with 21.5 guaranteed. I'd trust that over Grossi any day  That equates to 17.9M cap hit minus his salary. So do you cut him and take a 17.9 minus 2M (2012 salary) - or - keep him and pay him 7M plus that 2M.
So, 16M to cut him or 10M to keep him. I say he's a Cardinal in 2012.
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Kolb or Flynn IMO are the most realistic possibilities for next year. If the Browns want a QB competition, you don't bring in someone like Luck or RG3 to compete, they expect to start on day one.
I like the idea of Flynn better than Kolb.
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Sure it's somewhat of a longer shot, but it would make sense with regards to this front office.
I could see them signing Kolb if he became a free agent ..... or possibly even a trade target with a 3rd/4th round pick.
He wouldn't be my first choice, I think that he would be an upgrade over McCoy, but I don't know how much of an upgrade. It is definitely a move that I could see Holmgren pulling off.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/cleveland_browns_draft_project_1.html
The Philadelphia Eagles evaluated Kolb, projected him into their West Coast offense, and selected Kolb with the fourth pick of the second round. Kolb was groomed to be the successor to Donovan McNabb, but coach Andy Reid fell in love with Michael Vick along the way and Kolb was traded last year to the Arizona Cardinals.
* Speaking of Kolb: The Cardinals signed Kolb to a five-year contract extension for a reported $63 million, including a guarantee of $20 million.
Kolb proceeded to suffer two debilitating injuries and post a 2-6 record as the starter. Backup John Skelton created a controversy by going 6-2 in place of Kolb.
Kolb is owed a $7 million roster bonus from the Cards in March. There is some debate in Phoenix about if it would be wiser for the Cards to cut their losses, release Kolb and suffer the cap hit rather than invest further in him.
If that happened, Kolb would rise to the top of the list of quarterback options for the Browns.
Why?
Kolb was a much better quarterback in the West Coast offense in which he was schooled in Philadelphia. Arizona doesn't run it. Also, Kolb was drafted by Philadelphia partly based on evaluations made by Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur -- the Browns' top two football men.
Kolb I Hope is Not an option, he was as bad a QB in Arizona as DA. No way I want that guy.
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don't worry, Kolb won't be cut.
heck, they haven't even given the Eagles the 2nd round pick for him yet.
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Kolb sucks. Kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb, sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks AHHHHHH!!  Why don't they get it? He's not even fools gold, He's not even fake good, He's Never was good, anytime, AT ALL Peroid. Not once, not one time in the past, Kolb is this giant mistake of a bad decision trying to be passed off onto any bidder who will fall for the Bill of Goods teams are trying to pawn on them about how this guy can play worth anything. Just sayin. That's how I see him. Hope they don't go near this player..
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We deserve better; if we are building through the draft, why take the most important position and fill it with a double-barreled crapshoot" He would be an upgrade over McCoy at least in WCO experience (and Wallace is in place already). But the injury factor is huge, and we need to address the play mix and attack. He may "do" better, but the pathetic predictability of our O would limit us no matter who gets snaps. I am OK with this on the cheap with Heck's blessing, but don't feel like this is where we want most to hang our hats now and in the future. 
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I really hate it when you hold back,, Please tell us how you really feel 
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Brady was a 7th round pick - and he didn't do much his first couple of years, right?
Other than win a Super Bowl, be named Super Bowl MVP and go to the Pro Bowl, his first couple seasons were pretty quiet. 6th round pick, by the way. Not sure if you were being sarcastic there. Hope you were.
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Kolb sucks. Kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb, sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks
AHHHHHH!! Why don't they get it?
He's not even fools gold, He's not even fake good, He's Never was good, anytime, AT ALL Peroid. Not once, not one time in the past,
Kolb is this giant mistake of a bad decision trying to be passed off onto any bidder who will fall for the Bill of Goods teams are trying to pawn on them about how this guy can play worth anything.
Just sayin. That's how I see him. Hope they don't go near this player..
That the eagles were able to get so much out of that Lemon amazes. That it was the Arizona Cardinals who sleepwalked into Derek Anderson and then to Kolb seems reasonable. yet for this front office to even consider this bum would be beyond all logic.
yet in the happy untea party of Berea where up is down I see this as a reasonable chance of happening. I would then see the need to trade Colt so as not to create a QB controversy.
God help us we get this Bum!!!!
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Brady was a 7th round pick - and he didn't do much his first couple of years, right?
Other than win a Super Bowl, be named Super Bowl MVP and go to the Pro Bowl, his first couple seasons were pretty quiet. 6th round pick, by the way. Not sure if you were being sarcastic there. Hope you were.
Nope - I wasn't being sarcastic.
I didn't look it up, but I thought he was a 7th rounder.
I didn't look it up - but he did sit his first year - then won the super bowl his second year.
No, I wasn't being sarcastic - I was just wrong.
However, my over all point still stands. See, we aren't a team that is one or 2 players away from being a contender.........consequently, I am against making un-reasonable draft trades in order to get 1 certain player.
Too many holes to fill.
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Kolb sucks. Kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb, sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks
AHHHHHH!! Why don't they get it?
He's not even fools gold, He's not even fake good, He's Never was good, anytime, AT ALL Peroid. Not once, not one time in the past,
Kolb is this giant mistake of a bad decision trying to be passed off onto any bidder who will fall for the Bill of Goods teams are trying to pawn on them about how this guy can play worth anything.
Just sayin. That's how I see him. Hope they don't go near this player..
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I find it funny how people are calling him a bum now, but when he was still in Philly, he was highly sought after.
When he played for Philly in the WCO he looked pretty darn good. Then he went to Arizona and was asked to play in a different system and got hurt.
I think if he was put back in the WCO, he could perform at a higher level.
All the love for Skelton is hilarious. All he did was the same thing Dalton did in Cincy. Chuck the ball long and let a star receiver run under it.
Saying Kolb sucks is knee jerk, and I wouldn't expect anything else from guys like Throw. I think the correct statement would be that he has struggled with a new system and injuries.
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All the love for Skelton is hilarious. All he did was the same thing Dalton did in Cincy. Chuck the ball long and let a star receiver run under it.
What's wrong with that?!?
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All the love for Skelton is hilarious. All he did was the same thing Dalton did in Cincy. Chuck the ball long and let a star receiver run under it.
What's wrong with that?!?
I guess you missed the part about QB's make the receiver....
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Kolb sucks. Kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb, sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks, Kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks kolb sucks, Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks Kolb Sucks, Kolb Sucks
AHHHHHH!! Why don't they get it?
He's not even fools gold, He's not even fake good, He's Never was good, anytime, AT ALL Peroid. Not once, not one time in the past,
Kolb is this giant mistake of a bad decision trying to be passed off onto any bidder who will fall for the Bill of Goods teams are trying to pawn on them about how this guy can play worth anything.
Just sayin. That's how I see him. Hope they don't go near this player..
Amen.
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I find it funny how people are calling him a bum now, but when he was still in Philly, he was highly sought after.
When he played for Philly in the WCO he looked pretty darn good. Then he went to Arizona and was asked to play in a different system and got hurt.
I think if he was put back in the WCO, he could perform at a higher level.
All the love for Skelton is hilarious. All he did was the same thing Dalton did in Cincy. Chuck the ball long and let a star receiver run under it.
Saying Kolb sucks is knee jerk, and I wouldn't expect anything else from guys like Throw. I think the correct statement would be that he has struggled with a new system and injuries.
Kolb was fools Gold in Philly and they played a heist on the GM in Arizona( who should be fired after throwing DA $$ as well).
while I hate this idea there is one glimmer where i could live with it.
Wallace stinks, he unravels in any tight situations and does not give the Browns any chance to win. He is what he is . Kolb has bounced around now to two teams and has played spotty at best.
The cards are desperate for a QB.
we trade our #4 pick or draft RG3 and trade to the Cards. get Peterson, their #1
and kolb thrown in. we have two shut down corners. get a QB who was once considered a starter and draft the best DE we can get. Arizona get the QB they want.
Another poster made the point we are not a few players away from contention but much farther. I agree.
Kolb & McCoy battle for the position(Kolb will lose and be the backup and seneca fights to survive on the team).
we now have a fantastic CB tandem
We get the cards #1 pick to turn into the best Dline or olineman we can get.
Now the secondary is greatly improved, the Dlina and Oline are improved and we have
a competition for mcCoy with a guy once considered a stud.(sign Hillis).
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we trade our #4 pick or draft RG3 and trade to the Cards. get Peterson, their #1
This would be awesome. Let them keep Kolb, though.
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we trade our #4 pick or draft RG3 and trade to the Cards. get Peterson, their #1
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(sign Hillis).
I love how you throw this in at the end even though it has nothing to do with anything in the post. You can't go one post without beating one of your tired points into the ground. Where is the part where we should have traded Shaun Rogers instead of cutting him or the one where Phil Taylor is garbage?
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Why not trade our #4 pick straight up for Aldon Smith and let the 49ers draft RG3?
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