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Man I'm glad we didn't draft this guy. For whatever mistakes Mangini made trading down in that draft, I'd rather have Mack at Center than this guy anywhere near my team. Between him and Holmes ...... man ... the Jets look like a team in real turmoil. Jets players rip 'lazy' Mark Sanchez, want Peyton - CBSSports.com http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/34323163As you've likely realized by now, Brian Schottenheimer is out as the offensive coordinator of the Jets and reports are that Tony Sparano's on his way in. So the team's in upheaval right now. It won't help matters that some Jets players anonymously and publicly ripped quarterback Mark Sanchez on Wednesday morning. Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News has the story, and it's a doozy, with Jets players referring to Sanchez as "lazy," a "baby" and someone that can't win in New York. “We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” one player told Mehta. "He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched." Mehta also writes that the "consensus among players" he spoke to is that the Jets need a change at quarterback, or at least a capable veteran to push Sanchez into better performances. And the top choice for that veteran position seems to be ... Peyton Manning! “We already have his coach — Tom Moore," one player, who Mehta calls well-respected, said. "Plus, he’s a field general and will get everyone lined up. He will get his playmakers the ball. We can win a Super Bowl with Peyton." The issue with Peyton is that it's not as simple as "grabbing him and dumping Sanchez." First, Manning has to get cut/released/put on the trading block by the Colts. Then he has to want to come to the Jets. Whatever, it could happen, but let's not put the cart before the horse, especially when it requires Manning wanting to play in the same locker room that just firmly shoved its current quarterback (and erstwhile leader) under the bus, calling him a "baby" in the process. "They don’t want to be truthful with him," one player said about the way the team handled Sanchez. "They treat him like a baby instead of a man. He goes in a hole when someone tells him the truth." See, looks like a really fun place to play. Come on down Peyton. But really, anonymously shredding the starting quarterback for a team -- besides being, ironically, lazy in its own right -- doesn't usually mean that there only needs to be one change. UPDATED (7:33 p.m. ET): One of Sanchez's teammates has come to the rescue. That would be center Nick Mangold who tweeted today that Sanchez's accuser should "man up" and put his name with his criticism. "That's just wrong," said Mangold, when asked today by ESPN about the comment that Sanchez was lazy. "I've never seen anybody work as hard as Mark has. I support him fully and I think the locker room does as well."
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As intimate as Mangold and Sanchez have to be on every play I'd trust what Mangold says. Having said that I'm still not a Sanchez fan.
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I agree YTown ... all things considered I think Sanchez for Mack straight up is a plus in our column. Especially considering the salaries involved.
Yes, the Jets are a mess right now. When an over-hyped team like that flames out this stuff will happen. Santonio and Sanchez have been called out already. And despite what Mangold is saying, I doubt if the entire locker room is supporting Sanchez. I agree with the "put a name to the comments," though.
The thing about the Jets is that no one should be surprised at this. Look at the coach, it starts with him. If the head coach is a pompous, loud-mothed d-bag than you can't expect too much from his team.
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I'm glad we didn't draft him and all..
But Mangold has a point. whoever is saying these things needs to man up and put a name to the comments, or shut up to the press and keep it in the locker room..
Personally, It's a failure of coaching and management.
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Between him and Holmes ...... man ... the Jets look like a team in real turmoil.
WHO?...who are you referring to?
The author of the article, Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, puts together a bunch of "anonymous" comments by gutless Jets players who like to talk behind Sanchez back....
....those are the players I WOULD NOT WANT ON MY TEAM.
The Jets player who made the comment below...I WANT HIM ON MY TEAM...
One of Sanchez's teammates has come to the rescue. That would be center Nick Mangold who tweeted today that Sanchez's accuser should "man up" and put his name with his criticism.
"That's just wrong," said Mangold, when asked today by ESPN about the comment that Sanchez was lazy. "I've never seen anybody work as hard as Mark has. I support him fully and I think the locker room does as well."
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I know it's coming from the players, but is there a possibility of tampering of them talking about a player currently under contract with another team?
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I do not believe it can be considered tampering if it comes from a player.
That's my understanding anyway.
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As intimate as Mangold and Sanchez have to be on every play I'd trust what Mangold says. Having said that I'm still not a Sanchez fan.
I agree. I'll take the centers word over some anonymous source. And considering, the anonymous source may not even be real. The reporter could have made all this up to sell a few newspapers.
If it was a real comment from a real player on the Jets......The only thing worse than ripping a teammate in the media is ripping a teammate "anonymously". If you don't have the stones to attach your name to the comment, shut the bleep up.
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I do not believe it can be considered tampering if it comes from a player.
That's my understanding anyway.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Would be great, though, if it was tampering and the Jets got in a lot of trouble. 
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I agree. I'll take the centers word over some anonymous source. And considering, the anonymous source may not even be real. The reporter could have made all this up to sell a few newspapers.
If it was a real comment from a real player on the Jets......The only thing worse than ripping a teammate in the media is ripping a teammate "anonymously". If you don't have the stones to attach your name to the comment, shut the bleep up.
This has been a big deal here in the NYC sports radio world
One thing I have noticed though is that Antonio Cromartie and Simeon Puha just had interviews recently saying that they absolutely stand by Sanchez. That and tweets between players and Sanchez haven't shown any problems at all. Just the usual friendly let's hang out conversation that people have
Who knows who this anonymous source is. But I'd trust Mangold and those two before whoever this is. I don't doubt Sanchez works very hard.
That being said, he's so freakin inconsistent. If we drafted him, it would have been even worse. The Jets have weapons. We don't have any. Sanchez would have had big problems here, as would many QB's.
We really need another receiver to push this bunch. Greg Little should be better next year and Mass will do okay as a number 3 receiver and a new training camp. But we need someone to come in who is starter quality.
A Dustin Keller-esque TE eventually would be really nice too. Hopefully Jordan Cameron makes a big jump. I have no faith in Evan Moore because the guy is so one dimensional. He needs to hit the gym and spend huge amounts of time learning how to block. It really kills the opportunity of us using him, that and he seemed to drop a few passes this season
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Maybe the anonymous source is the backup QB. 
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Maybe the anonymous source is the backup QB.
my bet would be a player who was cut late during the year and was upset about it. or one that expects to be cut this offseason and is upset about it (based on his end of season chat with GM)
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My guess is that it was the same guys who were talking anonymously about Peyton Hillis.
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Either Mark Sanchez is only one of many problems that led to the Jets’ demise or he’s become the unofficial whipping boy for all gone wrong in New York. Apparently, it depends on whom you ask. A season of over-hyped expectations surrounding the Jets ended in a not-so-silent thud of missing the playoffs. The critics raged, and at the center of the storm over the travesty was Sanchez, who turned in an uneven season at best. When Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News finished reporting on the dysfunction within the Jets’ walls, Sanchez was portrayed as “lazy,” “content” and a player who wasn’t improving by unnamed players and members of the organization. Mehta insists those sources carry weight. “I talked to several people, really up and down the organization, from players on up,” he told NFL Network on Wednesday. “It’s obvious that there’s a clear division within the building about whether Mark Sanchez is the long-term solution at quarterback.” Well, the backlash now is in full swing, as many others within the locker room are stepping up to defend Sanchez. Mehta called it “difficult” to characterize the anti-Sanchez movement as widespread, but he said the opinion wasn’t isolated and called the number who don’t believe the quarterback is the future as “significant.” “I think the point of the story was to find out how the people in the building truly feel about their quarterback,” Mehta said. “Let’s be honest, this was not all Mark Sanchez’s fault. The Jets did not miss the playoffs just because of their quarterback. … I don’t think it’s fair to lay it all on Mark Sanchez. But I also think that it’s not realistic to say everything is rosy regarding this quarterback.” No, not so rosy. And as the Jets continue to talk about things that should be kept in-house, it might just be the tip of the iceberg. Maybe Derek Mason was dead-on. link
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That team was one rough year away from complete turmoil the day that Rex Ryan took over.
It's looked like a frat party with a lack of discipline and a lot of me-first, Broadway personalities.
Ryan really never did anything to help out with all of his wacky attitude in front of the media.
It has been a loosely held-together organization with the one binding factor only being talent and winning.
One rough year combined with Sanchez severely underperforming and the seams come apart.
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not sure how rough of a year it really was. the Jets ended up going 8-8. the Jets were 9-7 each of Sanchez's first 2 seasons.
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Everybody wants to blame the quarterback.
That team has more issues than the QB position, starting with that big mouth head coach.
Nobody gives the opposing team more bulletin board material to step up and play harder against their team than Rex Ryan.
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I'm glad we didn't draft him and all..
But Mangold has a point. whoever is saying these things needs to man up and put a name to the comments, or shut up to the press and keep it in the locker room..
Personally, It's a failure of coaching and management.
I agree 100%... if I'm on that team and hate the guy there's no way I go to the national media and say that anonymously... how does that help your team? If you don't like the guy go to your coach or GM and talk about trying to get Manning or whatever you think will work....
I don't like Sanchez at all, but I read this and almost felt bad for the Jets... that's just a mess... I do blame Rex Ryan though... he's created an environment where you can just do whatever you want and not have to worry about consequences... I think if this happened at the other NY team Coughlin would kill someone.
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it's really quite sad to see matt sanchez thrown under the bus by the new york media every chance they get; he has had growing pains at times, sure, and has made questionable passes, but he was never supposed to be peyton manning.
if anything, sanchez has struggled because of those around him; they continually bring in scumbucket receivers like holmes, burress, and edwards to be his primary receiving threats, and give him a has-been ladainian tomlinson and textbook-definition-of-average shonn greene to get him a solid 3.0 yards of rushing per carry each series... i actually hope they let him walk and when he goes to miami or something and ends up a top ten quarterback, rex ryan will have his foot in his mouth
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That might be the Giants you were thinking about as far as running the ball.
The Giants were last in rushing this year at 3.5 yards/carry and only 89.2 yards rushing per game. The Jets did slip to 3.8 yards/carry and 105.8 yards rushing/game this year.
Last year the Jets were 4th in rushing, at 4.4 yards/.carry and 148.4 yards rushing per game. In 2009 they were 1st in the league. (172,2 yards/game and 4.5 yards/carry) The Jets have hardly abused Sanchez in that regard.
They also provided him with a plethora of weapons. They gave him a damn fine receiving TEs in Keller. They have put talent at the WR spot. There are quite a few teams who wish they could match the Jets talent at WR, if not wanting the headaches that go along with certain of their players.
They also put a damn good OL in front of him. In short, he has had everything a young QB needed to succeed, right from the word go. He's just not a good QB.
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it's really quite sad to see matt sanchez thrown under the bus by the new york media every chance they get; he has had growing pains at times, sure, and has made questionable passes, but he was never supposed to be peyton manning.
if anything, sanchez has struggled because of those around him; they continually bring in scumbucket receivers like holmes, burress, and edwards to be his primary receiving threats, and give him a has-been ladainian tomlinson and textbook-definition-of-average shonn greene to get him a solid 3.0 yards of rushing per carry each series... i actually hope they let him walk and when he goes to miami or something and ends up a top ten quarterback, rex ryan will have his foot in his mouth
I agree, matt sanchez did not deserve that. His brother, mark, on the other hand ....
Just messing with you.
IMHO, Sanchez was given a lot to work with, he's just not good.
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it's really quite sad to see matt sanchez thrown under the bus by the new york media every chance they get; he has had growing pains at times, sure, and has made questionable passes, but he was never supposed to be peyton manning.
if anything, sanchez has struggled because of those around him; they continually bring in scumbucket receivers like holmes, burress, and edwards to be his primary receiving threats, and give him a has-been ladainian tomlinson and textbook-definition-of-average shonn greene to get him a solid 3.0 yards of rushing per carry each series... i actually hope they let him walk and when he goes to miami or something and ends up a top ten quarterback, rex ryan will have his foot in his mouth
I agree, matt sanchez did not deserve that. His brother, mark, on the other hand ....
Just messing with you.
IMHO, Sanchez was given a lot to work with, he's just not good.
honestly, i wouldn't be against the browns doing a trade for sanchez if the jets indeed are giving up on him; i feel very strongly that he can put it together these next few years if he has a receiver that has their head on straight to throw to, and i think if we were to draft blackmon we would be moving in the right direction in that regard. at the very least, sanchez would give a face to this organization that isn't a kick returner.
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I'm pretty sure that this past season colt mccoy made sure none of our receivers have their heads on straight anymore.
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The Jets have hardly abused Sanchez In short, he has had everything a young QB needed to succeed, right from the word go. He's just not a good QB.
Did ya ever notice how every quarterback who went to USC is supposed to be so freaking great. It's to the point I'll dock a couple points from anything good I hear about a quarterback if that quarterback went to USC.
It's a conspiracy, apparently USC is so great, if you start there only 1 season, or were even a backup, that makes you NFL ready. Hopefully the Browns won't get caught up in any of that kind of hype.
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The thing with Sanchez was that he had structural weaknesses in his game, and he only started one year. I said this when the draft rolled around, and I was glad that we passed on him. (although, in fairness, we had the 2 headed mess known as DA/Quinn that we needed to sort out before we could add anything else to the mix)
Barkley will have started almost 50 games by the time the next draft rolls around. He will have faced just about every possible situation. There shouldn't be many questions about him by the time next year's draft rolls around.
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It's a conspiracy, apparently USC is so great, if you start there only 1 season, or were even a backup, that makes you NFL ready. Hopefully the Browns won't get caught up in any of that kind of hype.
To be fair, most USC players take a pay cut when they enter the NFL. They lose their edge.
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So you're saying he could end being as good as a Carson Palmer or a Matt Leinart? 
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So you're saying he could end being as good as a Carson Palmer or a Matt Leinart?
pretty sure anyone would be happy drafting a pre-injury Carson Palmer.
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If you're looking for a QB who's career went to shambles at the first sign of adversity, sure. Plenty of physical talent, but not mentally strong enough to come back from an injury that plenty of athletes come back from (including one of the starting QBs in the Super Bowl this year). Dude spent his entire career in Cincinnati with better offensive talent than we've seen in Cleveland in the past decade and did zilch with it. 33-46-1 record post-injury.
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