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That is how you recruit. I do feel bad for Penn State though. We have pillaged Penn State and taken a lot of their players. We went from possibly unraked to a top 5 class.

It's a shame we don't have the great Greg Mattison though.

I'd think it's not too difficult to pillage the Penn State players right about now.

that's true, but the players we are taking would have gone somewhere else.

I feel bad for the players that remain if the NCAA doesn't grant them a waiver to go elsewhere without sitting a year (ala USC players).

Otherwise, think about it, you could be a mid-level 2star/3star player and get to say that you played for (and possibly started for) Penn State. 15-20 years down the line, the program is likely back and you get to still say that. that's pretty cool.

I don't think anyone is all that surprised by this.

What am I missing, is there an article or what?

I just read an article from a couple days ago which is Here . Sounds like a good class so far with Feb. 1 as the national signing day.

No way Fickell would get this done...we wouldn't have half the players we do now...this says a lot about Meyer.

Well sure, Fickle has nowhere near the name impact that Meyer has.

I bet that the plan right now is for Fickle to learn and be groomed to take over whenever Meyer leaves though.

Nah, I think he just might get a MAC coaching job. Say 10 years from now Meyer is still tearing up the BIG 10 conference, you really think Fickell will want to stay around that long? If the right job comes along he'd be a fool not to take it.

One for next year

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TROTWOOD, Ohio — Seated in Urban Meyer's office last Sunday, cornerback Cameron Burrows, ranked by Rivals.com as the No. 1 junior in Ohio in recruiting's Class of 2013, had an announcement to make. And he was the only one who knew it was coming.

"I'm taking my talents to Ohio State," is what Dionne Miller heard her 16-year-old son say to the new coach of the Buckeyes. First came the shock, then the hugs and photos. Dionne and Andre Burrows, who had discussed Ohio State with their son but had no idea he had made up his mind, were so taken off guard, Meyer still jokes with Cameron about the size of his mother's eyes as the words came out of his mouth.

"I wasn't expecting him to pull the trigger," Andre Burrows said. "I was a bit surprised. It was pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless."

It was a moment that was bigger than just a high school junior and his parents. Meyer hasn't yet signed the Class of 2012, with National Signing Day on Feb. 1, but he already has the first oral commitment and a leader for the Class of 2013, which will be the first class at Ohio State that Meyer has a chance to fully recruit. And for Trotwood-Madison, coming off a Division II state title, Burrows could be a first step in establishing the Buckeyes at a Dayton-area power where they haven't been particularly active in recent years.

That was a trend that the players and administrators at the school noticed. The last Trotwood player to go to Ohio State was safety Will Allen in the Class of 2000, who received his offer while he was a junior at Trotwood before transferring to Huber Heights Wayne for his senior year of high school. Before that, tight end John Lumpkin had been in the 1994 class. But while Michigan and other Big Ten schools pulled players from Trotwood, there was what current Trotwood Athletic Director Guy Fogle called a "glass ceiling" when it came to Ohio State.

Now with a first-team All-Ohio high school player, who Fogle also said ranks No. 7 in the junior class with a 3.5 grade-point average, that could be ready to change. Meyer and OSU defensive coordinator Luke Fickell visited Trotwood in tandem about two weeks ago. Trotwood coach Maurice Douglass, a former NFL player, said he expects both Ohio State and Michigan, with Dayton native Brady Hoke in charge, to regularly walk his hallways for years to come.

And that's why getting a player such as Burrows, out of a school such as Trotwood, more than a year before he will be able to officially sign with the Buckeyes in February 2013, was big for the Buckeyes.
"It's going to be a great relationship," Douglass said of Meyer. "He already stated that he wants to make this a hot spot for him and his coaching staff."

Burrows is a good friend of Trotwood senior safety Bam Bradley, who holds an OSU offer but is also seriously considering Pitt and Stanford as Douglass wonders if the Buckeyes already have too many safeties. And junior linebacker Mike McCray, who visited Ohio State in December with Burrows and Bradley, doesn't have an offer from Ohio State yet, but the No. 9 junior in Ohio is hoping for one and said Thursday that the Buckeyes would immediately jump into his top three.

But this day was about Burrows, who, despite his words to Meyer four days earlier, kept the suspense going at his Thursday afternoon news conference. Dressed in a suit, with a red shirt, he picked Ohio State's cap from among the six on the table on the stage at his high school, and then said he has already gone to work trying to build the 2013 recruiting class.

Jalin Marshall of Middletown, ranked as the No. 2 junior in the state by Rivals, has said he will announce his decision Jan. 31 and could be headed for Ohio State. The No. 3 in-state player in the class, Dymonte Thomas of Alliance, has already announced his intention to attend Michigan.

"He wants to be a major part of that class, so he got the ball rolling," Andre Burrows said of his son. "I think a lot of people are about to be surprised about what's about to happen."

At 6-1 and 190 pounds, Cameron Burrows has good size and speed for a corner. He said he plans to enroll early at Ohio State next January, which would give him a jump at playing early by going through spring football. That's a long way off, but Douglass said he will tell other coaches that Burrows is off-limits since he has given an oral commitment.

"I know I have what it takes to be able to be a Buckeye," Burrows said. "Everybody here grew up being an Ohio State fan, so for them to recruit me, it's just an honor."

Will Allen, the current Pittsburgh Steeler and former Buckeye, was on hand to support the player he remembers watching in peewee football. He was glad for Burrows.

And he was glad for what Burrows can mean to his former school, which he felt he had to leave before his senior year because of the instability in the football program back then.

"He's a pioneer, he's a trailblazer," Allen said of Burrows. "He's a scholar as well and he's a good-hearted kid, and he's going to be great at Ohio State and it's indicative of other kids here at Trotwood.

"He's going to play on Sundays. You can see it now. His instincts, his demeanor, how he prepares himself for his business -- he may not know it yet, but as someone who's been [in the NFL] for eight years, I can tell you, you can see it. If he stays focused, the sky's the limit."

As long as he commits he can phrase it as he wishes...

We got Armani Reeves. The complete pillage of Penn State is done.

MUHAHHAHAHAH....excellent::Mr Burns voice::

Jalin Marshall committed. Not a real shocker.

OSU is doing what the Browns should do this year....load up on a deep 2012 defensive class and go big on offense in 2013

I don't want to turn this into a Browns thread please

so, how did the Buckeyes destroying the Tressel legacy end up being perhaps the best thing that could of happened to the program?

I loved Tressel and how he put a lockdown on the state of Ohio prospects, but he was losing some allure nationally as we were labelled a boring team (even when we weren't) and he did go conservative in some big games (though not in all - see #1 vs. #2 Michigan game for one obvious example).

So, now we get the biggest college FA HC candidate, one with OH roots (personal and coaching), and he immediately goes out and saves a recruiting class that was destined to fail (with an assist from a brutal situation in Happy Valley).

Not only that, but we are going to get a ton of buzz because of his name and we'll likely get the same treatment that USC got nationally last season (lots of under-the-radar talk of how good they were that eclipsed what they were actually doing on the field because they wouldn't have to ever prove it in a big bowl game).

It's gotta suck to be a wolverine fan

Just asking, who's actually verballed to PSU at this point? I keep reading how you stole this dude or that dude from them, and that some other dude left for some school somewhere - do they have any verbals left?

While I didn't think the PSU class would end up being great this season I did think it would at least be good - right now it doesn't even look like it'll be that.

I don't get it really - the program is not going to be sanctioned as far as I know... all major "players" of the scandal are gone and they kept their face of recruiting as I understand it in Johnson. I understand the HC may not be a dream selection to some recruits, but all of them? Christ you'd think some kid somewhere in PA that's dreamed of playing in that stadium would be foaming at the mouth looking at it as "he's" gonna be the one to get PSU back on the right track - that doesn't appear to be the case.

I think they did keep one of their 4star recruits, but last check they lost all of the rest of them to other schools.

I think the almuni not supporting the new HC is causing alot of their issues (like it did with RichRod at UM) in addition to the obvious PR nightmares

if the alumni boosters and ex-players won't support the new HC, then there's a decent chance he'll be gone in the next few years and that uncertainty and the fact he's still committed to coach in the Superbowl (rather than spend his time on the phones) make it awfully tough to recruit.

Just looked at the rankings through Rivals and they're (PSU) 46th right now... Wisconsin is 48th. What's up with that?

Also - for the inevitable OSU/UM back and forth that will follow, here are the Rivals rankings for the top 5...

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Ohio State
4. Florida
5. Michigan

Ohio State has two five stars - Michigan has two five stars. OSU 13 four stars - UM 9 four stars. OSU 8 three stars - UM 13 three stars. OSU average = 3.74 stars... UM average = 3.54.

Yeah, I guess the numbers show OSU has a better class right now, but let's not act like Michigan is just being blown out of the water.

USC and Florida State actually have a higher average than OSU.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

my original line about UM was the fact that they thought this was the next turn in the rivalry. they dominated the Cooper years, we dominated the Tressel years. they were getting setup to dominate this string.

now, it doesn't look like it's going to be quite to the script they expected. and, having a higher star rating despite the sanctions and possibly more coming is ridiculous. i don't know how Meyer is doing it (and probably don't want to )

see, this is what happens when multiple posts break up your thoughts

I was saying Michigan was setup to dominate this string by the Tressel ouster and the Fickell recruiting class. Basically, getting Meyer saved the next few seasons of competition for the Buckeyes because we won't miss out on a full class of recruits right as Michigan is back in the game (don't think that is being dramatic as we were a 30s ranked team before the hire and now are top5 and may climb to the #2 class).

I would say Meyer's strategy so far is to recruit as many good DL as possible and as much speed as possible for offense. It's the strategy he took at Florida for the most part too. We'll see what happens and I agree that having coaches good at developing the bottom 2/3 of the roster is vital.

I have heard that Meyer wasn't overwhelmed with the returning linemen,both O and D.When he got a chance to work them out,he thought most were overweight and out of shape.
Look for a lot of running between now and Sept.and new kids brought in.

Hopefully Urban can close the deal on certain recruits, this was always Tressels biggest flaw as a coach. We can only sign 2-3 more people though, even with Roger Lewis decommiting. I expect to land Dodson tomorrow. Stephon Diggs later and Davante Neal later as well. Those two won't sign tomorrow.

No doubt a huge assist from PSU, but that aside, Meyer will keep you guys in the game as long as he's there.


I am just wondering how Candy and a few others are going to justify Meyer and his "scheme" offense after saying for years it was a "gimmick"



Just kidding....in sports you go with the flow. I understand how Ray Lewis is a punk.....unless he started playing for us.


I am excited for OSU and you guys.


Actually, the Bowl ban might be a good thing. No pressure. Just install the O and have fun. Learn how to run it and score points.

By the time it is all said and done you guys are going to end up with your own Tebow, and then maybe you'll get it.



Good luck guys. Like I have always said, even if most never believed, I have always been a Buck fan. I've never not like OSU and can honestly say I have only "not" rooted for OSU in maybe 3-4 games, and those games were against the Gators in the games we all remember.

I am honestly excited to see what happens.

It's only a gimmick offense when it's being run at the next level (Denver, anyone?). I never said anything about it at the NCAA level. A ton of respect for the guy for his work at Utah and Fla, as well as BG.

Although I don't think it's going to be exactly the same. I do think he will keep some traditional B10 elements in his systems.

He's one of best coaches in college football, and what he's pulled together in such little time is nothing short of amazing.

I agree about the bowl ban, as it seems like year 2 is the big year anyway. Nobody wins a chip in year 1.

Big misconception.Yes he runs a spread,but he has always ran power out of it.Jjust so happens he had a 250lb.QB running it at Fla.There willbe differences,but also many similarities.

Exactly.

Come say mid October, they will understand with eyes wide open.

I was sorry Meyer left Fla, but am even more sorry Muschamp has us going back to a pro set O.