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Marla Ridenour: Browns trading up in NFL Draft wouldn’t fit Tom Heckert’s profile By Marla Ridenour Beacon Journal sports columnist Published: January 23, 2012 - 12:00 AM Could the Browns trade up to draft Robert Griffin III? Browns General Manager Tom Heckert would never say never, a phrase he usually utters at least once per news conference. But I’m not buying what Steve Wyche of NFL.com suggested last week in his first mock draft. Wyche predicted the Browns would move from No. 4 to No. 2 on the first night of the April 26-28 NFL Draft to select the Heisman Trophy winner from Baylor. Wyche cited “league sources” that the Browns “want” Griffin and wrote that they have the most ammunition to get him. He figured they would use the 22nd overall pick and high picks in later rounds in a deal with the St. Louis Rams to lock in their quarterback of the future. I’m not disputing the fact that “league sources” — i.e. someone in Berea — could have told Wyche that the Browns want Griffin. But it seems more likely to me that the Browns floated the notion of trading up as a smokescreen or to drum up trade partners. They surely wouldn’t mind getting such conversation flowing, especially when they might rather trade down than up. The 2011 draft-day trade with the Atlanta Falcons that gave them the sixth overall pick and netted the Browns that No. 22 this year was two weeks in the making. Heckert was dealing with a longtime friend in Falcons General Manager Thomas Dimitroff, like Heckert a son of a former Browns scout. Swapping picks with an NFL executive with whom Heckert doesn’t have such personal ties could require much more phone work. Browns coach Pat Shurmur spent two years with the Rams, but they have a new coach in Jeff Fisher who will exert considerable influence in personnel decisions, especially since General Manager Billy Devaney was fired along with the previous coaching staff. There is much to love about Griffin. He’s not just a runner; he throws perhaps the best deep ball in college football. He was one of the nation’s top high school sprinters who showed off his world-class hurdling skills at Baylor. He made the Big 12 Conference honor roll six times and graduated with a degree in political science in three years. His father, Robert Sr., is retired from the military. He’s not afraid to show his quirky side, revealing his Superman socks at the Heisman ceremony. In a conference call Thursday, ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. predicted that Griffin would go between Nos. 2 and 4, with No. 2 being in a trade. Kiper said Griffin had no chance to supplant Stanford’s Andrew Luck, whom Kiper gave his best grade at quarterback since John Elway in 1983, as the top pick. That was before Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay mentioned both Luck and Griffin as likely to be selected 1-2 in an interview with ESPN’s Hannah Storm, indicating the Colts would consider both at No. 1. Holmgren’s needs It’s not out of the realm of possibility that the Browns could be totally smitten with Griffin and would do whatever it takes to get him. President Mike Holmgren is entering the third year of his contract, which runs through 2014, and has to be eager to find a franchise quarterback. Especially since he and his wife, Kathy, won’t be spending the rest of their lives in Northeast Ohio with their daughters living in Seattle and Salt Lake City. The clock is ticking on Holmgren’s five-year plan. Shurmur knows from his season with the Rams, tutoring first overall pick Sam Bradford, that selecting a quarterback in the first round doesn’t mean instant success. The Rams went 7-9 in 2010 with Shurmur as the offensive coordinator and 2-14 in 2011. The Carolina Panthers took Heisman winner Cam Newton No. 1 last April and even though Newton greatly exceeded expectations, they finished 6-10. Holmgren might have vowed that Shurmur will be the coach for “a long time,” but Shurmur needs a top-flight quarterback and an offense that averages more than the 13.6 points per game it did in 2011 to ensure that security. Then Shurmur needs time to bring that quarterback along. With a 4-12 record last season and just one playoff appearance since the franchise returned in 1999, the Browns are treading on thin ice with fans. Many renew their season tickets on blind trust, a belief in the law of averages and/or their penchant for tailgating. Griffin could change all that in the few seconds it takes to turn in a draft card to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Steep price But I’m still not convinced the Browns would pay the steep price required to trade up to get him. Heckert covets picks, the more the better. The Browns have more than one draft’s worth of holes to fill. Their choices at Nos. 4, 22 and 37 in April could bring loads of help for the league’s 29th-ranked offense. Using the draft trade value chart some general managers consult before making a deal, the Browns would have to give the Rams at least the 22nd pick and a sixth-rounder to move up from No. 4 to No. 2. That doesn’t really sound like much, but No. 22 could be a No. 1 receiver. Perhaps Wyche’s prediction was more of a smoke signal than a smokescreen. But it goes against everything I’ve seen from Heckert to believe that he would move up to get Griffin. With draft day more than three months away, I’m skeptical that the Browns have a shocker in store. web page
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I've been saying that for weeks. Just not his style.
Still though, if the Browns covet RG3, I don't think they'll need to move. None of the 3 teams above them will take him, and I think eventually the asking price to get into the 2 or 3 spot will be too much. On top of that I think St. Louis and Minnesota like some of these other top slotted players.. Claiborne, Kalil, Blackmon, etc There are some really good prospects there.
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I think if we trade up it will be for Luck. heckert and Grigson are very close friends and I could see them working something out. Also the Atlanta trade was first leaked 2months before the draft because we were discussing it on here, then the rumor died down until the draft.
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I am, by no means, as adept at judging the football machanics as others on this board.But when I watch RG III's highlights I just don't see the great deep ball. Many times I see passes that look ugly.I guess if the ball gets where it needs to go it's O.K. but I don't see R.G. III throwing a tight spiral like Luck or Barkely( who I think throws the best looking passes out of the three). What does this indicate regarding his ability to play in the NFL? I don't know.
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I still say St.Louis would be insane to not draft Kalil.
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Hey Mourg..the other night i was watching STO and Andra Knott was hosting, and he got a call about RGIII..They talked about all his positives and what he would mean to the Browns..When they were done Andra said..With all that his sources say they are higher on Tannahill and don't be shocked if they trade down a few spots pick up another 2nd and pick him with their 1st pick...
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I am, by no means, as adept at judging the football machanics as others on this board.But when I watch RG III's highlights I just don't see the great deep ball. Many times I see passes that look ugly.I guess if the ball gets where it needs to go it's O.K. but I don't see R.G. III throwing a tight spiral like Luck or Barkely( who I think throws the best looking passes out of the three). What does this indicate regarding his ability to play in the NFL? I don't know.
A lot of reports say RG3 throws a better deep ball than Luck. I think Luck is a better prospect, I think that's obvious, but RG3 has a cannon. I think the biggest question is whether or not RG3 can stick in the pocket when he needs to, coming out from under center. I think he can make every NFL throw, but there are still ?'s.
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I am not surprised. I think Tannehill is the #2 QB and a future franchise QB in this league. The fact he ran this very scheme under Sherman is such a huge plus. I would have no problem taking him top 10 now I may be the only one lol but hey if you believe a kid is a stud QB you take him when you can get him.
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I am not surprised. I think Tannehill is the #2 QB and a future franchise QB in this league. The fact he ran this very scheme under Sherman is such a huge plus. I would have no problem taking him top 10 now I may be the only one lol but hey if you believe a kid is a stud QB you take him when you can get him.
I know what would solidify that.. Hiring Sherman as OC.. That would signal that kinda move I think..
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I am not surprised. I think Tannehill is the #2 QB and a future franchise QB in this league. The fact he ran this very scheme under Sherman is such a huge plus. I would have no problem taking him top 10 now I may be the only one lol but hey if you believe a kid is a stud QB you take him when you can get him.
I know what would solidify that.. Hiring Sherman as OC.. That would signal that kinda move I think..
he would definitely have the insight on the kid. but, Sherman is also the most experienced WCO-OC on the market right now. So, hiring him could just be trying to get the best guy we can.
i still think Sherman waits for a college HC job if he doesnt' get TB.
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Say what you want about McCoy, but he handled the transition from shotgun to under center very well. Everyone will pick apart what he does after the snap (and justifiably so), but McCoy's transition from spread to WCO (just in terms of taking snaps) was a big ? and he seemed to make the transition really well.
That being said, I'm no expert in this area, so I could be way off. Perhaps these college QBs with quick feet (McCoy, Cam, RG3) are better able to make that transition?
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I'm in with ya on this one Mourg.. 
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Hey Mourg..the other night i was watching STO and Andra Knott was hosting, and he got a call about RGIII..They talked about all his positives and what he would mean to the Browns..When they were done Andra said..With all that his sources say they are higher on Tannahill and don't be shocked if they trade down a few spots pick up another 2nd and pick him with their 1st pick...
I would be absolutely fine if we did this.
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Hey Mourg..the other night i was watching STO and Andra Knott was hosting, and he got a call about RGIII..They talked about all his positives and what he would mean to the Browns..When they were done Andra said..With all that his sources say they are higher on Tannahill and don't be shocked if they trade down a few spots pick up another 2nd and pick him with their 1st pick...
I would be absolutely fine if we did this.
It's funny when people talk about us moving up it is for our extra first and a second but when we trade down it is for a second..J/C
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I don't have any idea what the Browns will do with all their draft picks....but I do know that you have to get "the man" at QB
Eli, Brady, Peyton, Rogers, Brees, Ben.......Those 6 guys are the last 9 winning Super Bowl QB's (including this year).....and 4 of them are also the losing Super Bowl QB.
Out of 18 possible QBs in the Super Bowl the last 9 years...these 6 guys took 13 of those spots...the other 5... McNabb, Warner, Rex Grossman, Jake Delhomme, and Matt Hasslebeck..
I would not hesitate to trade up for my QB...and risk losing that #1 WR that the article refers to, that might be available at 22.
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If he does this ... the only thing that he must do is this.
Be right.
When it comes to passing on a QB you had better be right. If you are wrong, the consequences, both to the team and to the careers of those who passed can be devastating.
I worry about Tannehill for a couple of reasons.
First, is obviously, inexperience. He has simply not played QB very much. He made a nice transition from WR to QB, but I have to wonder if his lack of experience will cost him down the road. Newton, obviously, was not hurt by having very little college experience, but this has been a stumbling block for other QBs trying to make the jump from college to the pros.
Second is the pressure he faced in college ...... which seems to be ..... none. He was only sacked 9 times this season. Now, I must admit that I didn't see a ton if A&M footage, but was his line especially good, or did he just do a great job of never getting sacked? It looks like they rolled him out a lot.
I just see this guy as the very definition of boom or bust ..... even more than other QBs who get this rap. Tannehill has better physical dimensions than some, but not the arm. I don't think that Tannehill threw deep much in college, so the obvious question is why? Was it all offense, or was it arm strength and/or accuracy on the deeper throws? I don't see sharp intermediate throws. I do see a lot of roll out, short passes.
I am watching You Tube highlight reels, and it is hard to find impressive throws. He almost reminds me of Colt McCoy. He runs a lot of designed roll outs and such. He throws mainly short, and his deeper stuff doesn't seem to have great accuracy at all.
Man .... the more I think about Tannehill the more concerned I am about us possibly taking him. He seems like a real long term project than a future starter. I just don't see anything great in his play. I certainly don't see him as a solution for a team desperately in need of a QB who can come in and contribute from day 1.
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Eli, Brady, Peyton, Rogers, Brees, Ben.......Those 6 guys are the last 9 winning Super Bowl QB's (including this year).....and 4 of them are also the losing Super Bowl QB.
Out of 18 possible QBs in the Super Bowl the last 9 years...these 6 guys took 13 of those spots...the other 5... McNabb, Warner, Rex Grossman, Jake Delhomme, and Matt Hasslebeck..
I would not hesitate to trade up for my QB...and risk losing that #1 WR that the article refers to, that might be available at 22.
Go get your guy!
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well, since you brought it up,, how would you go about it..
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Ugh Marla... I wish people would stop spouting this line off without doing their homework. From the time he got the VP of Player Personnel job in 2003 to present, Heckert has moved up in the 1st and 2nd rounds alone:
2003 - Traded up from #30 to #15 for Jerome McDougle
2004 - Traded up from #28 to #16 for Shawn Andrews
2006 - Traded up from #45 to #39 for Winston Justice
2009 - Traded up from #21 to #19 for Jeremy Maclin
2010 - Traded up from #71 to #59 for Montario Hardesty
2011 - Traded up from #26 to #21 for Phil Taylor
I mean honestly, he's traded up twice in two years during his tenure here and all these goofy sportswriters keep saying how he'd never part with picks. All this goes without mentioning Heckert and Holmgren trying to give up the farm for Bradford in 2010. He trades both up and down... he plays the draft for value.
Here's how Heckert drafts in 3 easy steps:
- If he really wants a guy but isn't sure he'll fall, he trades up to ensure he gets him.
- If he really wants a guy but thinks he'll fall, he lets the draft come to him.
- If he really wants a guy but doesn't think there is value picking him in the slot he has, he trades down.
Easy. Heckert gets his man. If his guy this time is Griffin (unless Luck somehow becomes available) then the 2012 Draft will be no exception, even if it costs a little bit more.
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Hey Mourg..the other night i was watching STO and Andra Knott was hosting, and he got a call about RGIII..They talked about all his positives and what he would mean to the Browns..When they were done Andra said..With all that his sources say they are higher on Tannahill and don't be shocked if they trade down a few spots pick up another 2nd and pick him with their 1st pick...
I would be absolutely fine if we did this.
It's funny when people talk about us moving up it is for our extra first and a second but when we trade down it is for a second..J/C
That's a good point. However, I suspect that means that the Browns FO isn't looking to drop back but a few spots (ie, we dropped from #4 to #6). I don't think that the Browns take Tannehill at #6 though. They might, but I don't think that they would.
If we dropped just a couple of spots, we might look nab someone other than Tannehill or look to trade down a second time, maybe a 3 team trade going, where we drop several spots with a second trade down but include a pick to move up again and look to draft Tannehill with the Atlanta pick.
I could see a trade back to #6, then another trade back to say #14 (the Dallas pick - they need corners in a bad way) and if Kirkpatrick has his legal issues cleared up, they might trade up to get him or Claiborne if he manages to make it to that spot. We might be able to get a minor ransom from Dallas if things fell this way.
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Go get your guy!
Well who do you see as that guy?
I'd love to trade up for Andrew Luck, I just don't really know if that's an option. I'd be willing to give Indianapolis a lot for him, despite the board thinking i'm crazy..........
I just don't think Indy would go for that though.
One thing I was thinking was possibly trading up with St. Louis to that number 2 spot, letting them get a good player at our 4. Then trading up from 2 to 1.
If Indy likes RG3, this might work. Trade our 2nd (this year) or 1st next year to get to 2. Then trade this year's first (or next year's 1st), this year's 3rd and a 4th.
That might be able to get us Andrew Luck and another pick in the 1st or early 2nd round. Just depends on what Indy thinks of RG3.
But we'd have to have deals worked out with both teams before the draft.
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That's a good point. However, I suspect that means that the Browns FO isn't looking to drop back but a few spots (ie, we dropped from #4 to #6). I don't think that the Browns take Tannehill at #6 though. They might, but I don't think that they would.
If we dropped just a couple of spots, we might look nab someone other than Tannehill or look to trade down a second time, maybe a 3 team trade going, where we drop several spots with a second trade down but include a pick to move up again and look to draft Tannehill with the Atlanta pick.
I could see a trade back to #6, then another trade back to say #14 (the Dallas pick - they need corners in a bad way) and if Kirkpatrick has his legal issues cleared up, they might trade up to get him or Claiborne if he manages to make it to that spot. We might be able to get a minor ransom from Dallas if things fell this way.
I said the exact same thing. I even thought Detroit might try to trade up if they feel Claiborne is that piece they need. Here's something to think about..
Jerry Jones came out today and said Eli Manning is the difference between the Giants and the Cowboys. Not a ringing endorsement for Romo and some think He is on a short leash. What if the Boys called and wanted to move up to draft Griffin and offered Romo as part of a deal? You get a guy to come in and Compete with Colt. He is getting older and if he did beat Colt out would give us a great backup and someone who can step in when he is done. Or Colt beats him out and you have a solid backup that could really help Colt out. Was just thinking about it.. I think Romo would be great in this Offense and knows how to distribute the ball well.
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That's waay too contrived.
If RG3 falls to us at 4, I could see a Eli/Rivers type swap. Indy gets help now, and someone they can actually groom...
This all depends on if Rob Lowe is full of crap though...
(Lowe claims Manning is retiring)
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If RG3 falls to us at 4, I could see a Eli/Rivers type swap. Indy gets help now, and someone they can actually groom...
This all depends on if Rob Lowe is full of crap though...
(Lowe claims Manning is retiring)
That would be optimal. I just figure, if the FO decides we HAVE to get Andrew Luck. That's the only way to do it. Trade to 2 then trade up to number 1.
Because I think Indy will want RG3 if they trade Luck.
But yeah, I've thought of that as a real possibility. I just dunno if RG3 is gonna make it to number 4. I figure we have a trade up advantage with other teams because we hold the 4 pick and the elite guys St Louis would want would be one of Kalil, Claiborne, or Blackmon. We can give them one of those guys. I don't think any other team can. But that fact (that the real elite players are those guys, besides Richardson who doesn't fit Ram's needs). May be they trade with Wash and get Riley Reif or something
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Go get your guy!
Well who do you see as that guy?
I'd love to trade up for Andrew Luck, I just don't really know if that's an option. I'd be willing to give Indianapolis a lot for him, despite the board thinking i'm crazy..........
I just don't think Indy would go for that though.
One thing I was thinking was possibly trading up with St. Louis to that number 2 spot, letting them get a good player at our 4. Then trading up from 2 to 1.
If Indy likes RG3, this might work. Trade our 2nd (this year) or 1st next year to get to 2. Then trade this year's first (or next year's 1st), this year's 3rd and a 4th.
That might be able to get us Andrew Luck and another pick in the 1st or early 2nd round. Just depends on what Indy thinks of RG3.
But we'd have to have deals worked out with both teams before the draft.
I have no idea who "the guy" is ....Luck is the obvious choice...But Indy earned that right the hard way...The have to take him IMO.....Is it RG3? Is it Matt Flynn? I have no idea...but Holmgren better.
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Hey Mourg..the other night i was watching STO and Andra Knott was hosting, and he got a call about RGIII..They talked about all his positives and what he would mean to the Browns..When they were done Andra said..With all that his sources say they are higher on Tannahill and don't be shocked if they trade down a few spots pick up another 2nd and pick him with their 1st pick...
If they traded down a few spots, ( say to 9 or 10 range) and took Tannehill with the first pick and got another 2nd, that would mean. Colt McCoy still has a chance to be the starter for 2 more years, Tannehill has a chance to boom not bust? And they still get 3 other of the top 67 players. #22, #37, and additional 2nd rounder. 2 of those could go defense and one offense and all of this would be positive. The only negative to that would be if Tannehil totally flops, and even that, wouldn't be a complete fail because they'd still have the 3 other of their top 60 players .
That would be probably my happiest scenario, and hey while their at it they might as well ask for a pick next year in the 1st or 2nd along with this years 2nd for that move down anyway.
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That's a good point. However, I suspect that means that the Browns FO isn't looking to drop back but a few spots (ie, we dropped from #4 to #6). I don't think that the Browns take Tannehill at #6 though. They might, but I don't think that they would.
If we dropped just a couple of spots, we might look nab someone other than Tannehill or look to trade down a second time, maybe a 3 team trade going, where we drop several spots with a second trade down but include a pick to move up again and look to draft Tannehill with the Atlanta pick.
I could see a trade back to #6, then another trade back to say #14 (the Dallas pick - they need corners in a bad way) and if Kirkpatrick has his legal issues cleared up, they might trade up to get him or Claiborne if he manages to make it to that spot. We might be able to get a minor ransom from Dallas if things fell this way.
I said the exact same thing. I even thought Detroit might try to trade up if they feel Claiborne is that piece they need. Here's something to think about..
Jerry Jones came out today and said Eli Manning is the difference between the Giants and the Cowboys. Not a ringing endorsement for Romo and some think He is on a short leash. What if the Boys called and wanted to move up to draft Griffin and offered Romo as part of a deal? You get a guy to come in and Compete with Colt. He is getting older and if he did beat Colt out would give us a great backup and someone who can step in when he is done. Or Colt beats him out and you have a solid backup that could really help Colt out. Was just thinking about it.. I think Romo would be great in this Offense and knows how to distribute the ball well.
I don't think I'd trade the #4 pick to Dallas for their #14 and Romo. It'd take them a bit more than that, but I'm not opposed to your line of thinking. McCoy was supposed to sit last year and wasn't given that chance. Giving him that chance (over his own objections, I'm sure) would probably serve him well. I wouldn't do it with Wallace on the team. They should simply release him because I don't see them even getting a 7th rounder for him.
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i would give-up #4 for Romo + #14 in a heartbeat. He is 32 years old, but he's also had a QB rating over 90 every single season he has played. And, he made a huge leap this past season.
the Cowboys have alot of problems, Tony Romo is not one of them.
(not to mention you would still be able to get a pretty good weapon at #14)
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I like Romo a lot. I don't think trading #4 would be wise though. I would give up maybe 22 to get him.
Honestly though, for his case, I think he needs to get away from Dallas and that organization. I think he would be so much better off getting a fresh start, maybe with a stable organization that has a coach who has been in place for a while.
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I would either give up #22 for Romo. or, as proposed above, I would trade #4 for Romo+#14.
I think I would actually be happier with #14, #22, and Romo (K-Wright, L.Miller and Romo? now there's the beginnings of an offense).
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Should we trade for Witten too?
I mean who's Tony ganna go to the beaches with? Phil Taylor?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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maybe Joe Thomas could convince Romo that the equivalent up North is fishing?
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is jessica simpson going to come to the games? 
Attitude is everything....FEAR THE ELF!!!
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is jessica simpson going to come to the games?
naw, that ship has sailed. she got dumped at an IHOP in Dallas and ended up getting a rebound QB in Colt Brennan (Washington's QB3 at the time).
yes, I know this stuff sadly. TX Sports radio makes sure of it
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Browns trading up in NFL Draft wouldn’t fit Tom Heckert’s profile
It fits Walter Football's profile . . .
. . . RG3 at #2 AND Tannehill at #22 . . . 
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Browns trading up in NFL Draft wouldn’t fit Tom Heckert’s profile
It fits Walter Football's profile . . .
. . . RG3 at #2 AND Tannehill at #22 . . .
I have looked at his mocks this year and it seems as if he gave up trying. It is Horrible and not just for us either.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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Browns trading up in NFL Draft wouldn’t fit Tom Heckert’s profile
It fits Walter Football's profile . . .
. . . RG3 at #2 AND Tannehill at #22 . . .
I saw that, talk about mailing it in haha. He said he didn't have any place to put Tannehill so he stuck him there because the team we're trading down with could take him. Who is that supposed to be? St. Louis? Minny? None of them are going to waste a 1st on a QB. So weak lol.
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U need some reading comprehension... Quote:
Cleveland Browns: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
I'm listing this as a Ryan Tannehill pick because the Browns will probably have to use this selection to move up for Robert Griffin. Besides, I didn't have anywhere else to put Tannehill. Some team like the Redskins, Seahawks and Dolphins may move down for him, or perhaps someone drafting in the second round will move up.
If the Browns manage to get Griffin and hold on to this pick, they can target Nick Perry to play across from Jabaal Sheard; Alshon Jeffery to upgrade the receiver position; or Alfonzo Dennard to give them a capable cornerback across from Joe Haden.
If the Rams acquire this choice, as specified earlier, they'll consider Fletcher Cox as an interior pass-rusher; Cordy Glenn to help upgrade the front; or Zach Brown to bolster the linebacking corps.
Go Browns!!!
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LOL,, I got a kick out of the " he didn't have anyplace else to put him thing"
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I think Charlie Campbell has a better Mock on WalterFootball than Walt's #4 RGIII QB #22 Melvin Ingrim DE #37 Mohamed Sanu WR #68 Andrew Datko OT #101 Keith Tandy CB #119 Emmanuel Acho LB web page
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