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Quarterback

1. Andrew Luck, Stanford
2. Robert Griffin III, Baylor
3. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M

It's far too early in the process to apply rankings after the top three quarterbacks, but there are plenty of other signal-callers to keep an eye on. Some will be easier to evaluate than others:

Trust the process:

Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
Nick Foles, Arizona
Brock Osweiler, Arizona State
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State
Ryan Lindley, San Diego State

Figure them out:

Russell Wilson, Wisconsin
Kellen Moore, Boise State
Running Back

1. Trent Richardson, Alabama
2. David Wilson, Virginia Tech
3. Lamar Miller, Miami (FL)
4. Doug Martin, Boise State
5. LaMichael James, Oregon
Wide Receiver

1. Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
2. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
3. Kendall Wright, Baylor
4. Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
5. Chris Givens, Wake Forest
Tight End

1. Dwayne Allen, Clemson
2. Coby Fleener, Stanford
3. Orson Charles, Georgia
4. Ladarius Green, Louisiana-Lafayette
5. Michael Egnew, Missouri
Linemen make early impression
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Tackle

1. Riley Reiff, Iowa
2. Matt Kalil, USC
3. Jonathan Martin, Stanford
4. Mike Adams, Ohio State
T-5. James Brown, Troy
T-5. Zebrie Sanders, Florida State
Interior Offensive Lineman

1. David DeCastro, Stanford
2. Peter Konz, Wisconsin
3. Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin
4. Cordy Glenn, Georgia
5. Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State
Defensive End

1. Quinton Coples, North Carolina
2. Melvin Ingram, South Carolina
3. Whitney Mercilus, Illinois
4. Nick Perry, USC
T-5. Chandler Jones, Syracuse
T-5. Andre Branch, Clemson

Defensive Tackle

1. Devon Still, Penn State
2. Jerel Worthy, Michigan State
3. Michael Brockers, LSU
4. Brandon Thompson, Clemson
T-5. Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
T-5. Dontari Poe, Memphis
Linebacker

1. Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
2. Luke Kuechly, Boston College
3. Dont'a Hightower, Alabama
4. Zach Brown, North Carolina
5. Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State
Cornerback

1. Morris Claiborne, LSU
2. Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
3. Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska
4. Leonard Johnson, Iowa State
5. Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
Safety

1. Mark Barron, Alabama
2. Harrison Smith, Notre Dame
3. George Iloka, Boise State
4. Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State
T-5. Janzen Jackson, McNeese State
T-5. Antonio Allen, South Carolina

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Surprised to see Coples ranked so high everywhere. Most people on this board don't like him.

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I think Upshaw could be a pretty good defensive end.

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Dre Kirkpatrick ranked fifth suprises me as he is ranked second in most places. I think Janoris Jenkins could be a good value pick if teams stay away from him.

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He's got legal issues (marijuana) that has caused his stock to take a hit. v

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We'll have to see. I won't make any claims to someone that could be a hybrid LB/DE.

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Surprised to see Coples ranked so high everywhere. Most people on this board don't like him.

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I know, but he is very talented and teams might pass on him because of his off the field problems (i.e. Eric Wright). I don't think he will be there for our 2nd rounder, but I wouldn't be mad if we took him.

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He played a lot with his hand in he ground at Alabama and he is bigger than Jabaal Sheard.

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You gotta want it though and too many times it looks like he just doesn't want it.

I stay far far away from those type of players in the first round. I wouldn't take him with #22.

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wow Reiff above Kalil? This is a first I have seen. Most of these mocks have Kalil going in the top 5, even a bunch top 3.

I have to admit I haven't seen a ton of Reiff, just because I didn't watch much Iowa football, but I have seen plenty of USC this year, and I think Kalil has a chance to be pretty damn good.

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If hes there draft Kalil, pay him left tackle money, play him right side and we are set on the line.

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So you wanna draft (our #4 no less) and convert a LT to a RT? How many times has this came up on this board? How risky it was to draft a DE & convert him to LB to suit our 3-4? And that's in the middle 1st to even 2nd round. Now you want to use a top #5 pick to take a chance on that?

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We could always be evaluating a guy like him (not that we wouldn't eval. all of them anyways) for a trade down? Move down to 6 - 10 or so. Pick up another 2nd and a first next year.


when you include value in the trade I would rather have Coples + 2nd + 2013 1st if a team wanted Griffin or whoever then JUST get claiborne or blackmon.

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So you wanna draft (our #4 no less) and convert a LT to a RT? How many times has this came up on this board? How risky it was to draft a DE & convert him to LB to suit our 3-4? And that's in the middle 1st to even 2nd round. Now you want to use a top #5 pick to take a chance on that?

Wow

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So you wanna draft (our #4 no less) and convert a LT to a RT? How many times has this came up on this board? How risky it was to draft a DE & convert him to LB to suit our 3-4? And that's in the middle 1st to even 2nd round. Now you want to use a top #5 pick to take a chance on that?

Wow

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LT's are converted to RT's all the time in the NFL............ Who's that LT on the Panthers, Jordan Gross. He started as a RT. Bryan Buluaga, LT moved to RT.

Very normal, nothing like a transition you're talking about. RT is usually easier because the speed edge rushers usually don't line up on that side, and when they do the QB can see them unlike a blindside rusher

So you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about


EDIT: In college Sheard played on the other side of the D-Line than he did this year. He seemed to do just fine didn't he?

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Only after Greg Romeus went down with injury. Sheard also played some DT his senior year IIRC.

Yes many College LT's have become a RT in the League ... And some RT's have made the switch to LT.
Hairston from Clemson, started the whole season as the Bills rookie LT.

I thought he would make a good RT and maybe he will move back their at some point, but for a mid round former RT to start his rookie year off at LT was pretty miraculous (and also pretty rare) imo.

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I don't know too much about Sheard in college, that's interesting he play DT too.

I was just trying to make the point to BleedNBrown (or whatever his name is) that the switch isn't uncommon and is not like switching from CB to Safety or DE to 3-4 OLB, or DT to ILB or whatever.

The way he replied to someone's post made it look like the guy he was replying to was crazy using these kind of icons ( ) and from the stuff he said. Yet he was stupid. If we want to draft a could player to play RT, chances are they didn't play RT in college, they played LT (because they're the best tackle on their O-Line and LT blocks the blindside). Our RG played LT in college.

I just thought it was annoying how he was acting like someone else's post was stupid when his post was actually stupid. If we want to draft Kalil or Reif/Riley to play RT, he can probably play RT

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It's just not the right value or long-term stable choice to make there, especially considering how devoid we are of play-makers right now.

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I think it is all a moot point as Kalil will not be around when we pick.

Reiff seems more suited to play right tackle to me (if I wrong let me know).

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Also, Tebow and Newton are giant. Griffin is not.

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Also, Tebow and Newton are giant. Griffin is not.

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Tebow is a run first guy... Newton is pretty balanced.. Griffin is a pass first guy.. so while somebody may consider them all to be dual threats, the way they approach the game is pretty different.

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That brings into this discussion another variable that has to be in this debate. How many of these types of QB's coming out of College are going to, one be successful

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and secondly how many will need time to develop.

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Its like everyone blowing up Zach Brown. He is fast but what has he done? Where is the productiion? He has zero instincts. Dude is freaking Chaun Thompson made over.

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Its like everyone blowing up Zach Brown. He is fast but what has he done? Where is the productiion? He has zero instincts. Dude is freaking Chaun Thompson made over.

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Brown had 13.5 tackles for loss last year. He's a playmaker.

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Its like everyone blowing up Zach Brown. He is fast but what has he done? Where is the productiion? He has zero instincts. Dude is freaking Chaun Thompson made over.

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Brown had 13.5 tackles for loss last year. He's a playmaker.

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Great, I watched him play when they needed him in that Bowl Game

He was nowhere to be found............. Right when it counted the most, nowhere

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Basing your entire evaluation on one game is always a terrible idea. Watch at least three.

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Its like everyone blowing up Zach Brown. He is fast but what has he done? Where is the productiion? He has zero instincts. Dude is freaking Chaun Thompson made over.

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Brown had 13.5 tackles for loss last year. He's a playmaker.

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That ranks him t59th in CFB btw...along with the almighty Tim Fugger from Vandy

He had 1.5 TFL the season before...not exactly "a playmaker"...he's still not completely off my board as I've read some positve reviews from draftniks I respect but still, he's solidly on my "torn" list..it's safe to say that his game is incredibly inconsistent and that he lacks instincts to go with his speed...along with inconsistent toughness and tackling technique and all you have left is a raw speed player

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If you read what I wrote then you would know that drafting a bigtime LT and moving him over to RT when we have so many holes to fill, and at #4 no less leaves alot to be desired.

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So you wanna draft (our #4 no less) and convert a LT to a RT? How many times has this came up on this board? How risky it was to draft a DE & convert him to LB to suit our 3-4? And that's in the middle 1st to even 2nd round. Now you want to use a top #5 pick to take a chance on that?

Wow

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Here you compare a LT moving to RT like a DE converting to LB in 3-4. You call changing the position risky. My point, most tackles in the NFL probably played LT in college. Many linemen in the NFL played LT in college. That's because it's the most important position on the offensive line. Joe Thomas in college played LT. Pinkson in college played LT. Our RG in college played LT. I'm willing to but Pashos played LT in college too

It is not as risky as a DE to 3-4 OLB change. And you tried to put someone down and sound like a know it all with things like "Wow" and those stupid faces like this If you want to say, "Getting someone to be a RT for you with your 4th pick is a bad idea because it's too high to pick a RT and the guy will want LT money/to pay LT when his contract is up", that makes more sense.

But instead you're talking about the risk for the position change and you're essentially calling the other poster's post stupid with your emotion icons.