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Flap #657522 02/21/12 10:41 PM
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Who was that wearing the Jamison jersey?




he was 7/14 from the line. he wanted to make sure it wasn't totally obvious.


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Kyrie Irving had 17 of his 25 points in the fourth quarter

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understood. just pointing out overall he's been pretty good/steady throughout (and always has that little extra for the end of the 4th). tonight, he proved he can put us on his shoulders the entire quarter when needed.


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understood. just pointing out overall he's been pretty good/steady throughout (and always has that little extra for the end of the 4th). tonight, he proved he can put us on his shoulders the entire quarter when needed.




I agree with you 100%

I was just posting that stat

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well, might as well point out once more how awesome it is to have possibly the only star out of last year's draft

sure, Knight could have more nights like tonight, D-Will could figure out how to be a SF, Tristan could become a dominant defender and adequate offensive player, and then there's Marshon, Isaiah, Kawhi, etc.

but really, all are struggling as rookies tend to struggle. Kyrie is friggin' special.


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I get to see plenty of Clippers games out here. And I've seen all or parts of Cavs games about a half dozen times.

I think Irving's ceiling is above Chris Paul's.

I'm more than impressed.

btw...how badly does the NBA need a franchise tag? Make it a ridiculous amount of additional money. 50% above a max contract year 1. 100% above a max contract year 2. 200% above year 3.

And keep the money that you pay your top player off the cap. An exclusion due to the actual money that that guy actually brings to the table in terms of tickets sold, jerseys and general national interest.

Bottom line make it more than worth it to keep that one player you need to keep on the team. Not saying Irving is that guy yet but he's on his way.


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I agree, especially on the franchise tag.

Also, a guy should only get to use it once every 5 years or so. In other words, a guy can't leave his old team and sign a 1 year deal elsewhere, then sign under a franchise tag when that year is up. (as we know would happen otherwise)

I think that Irving is going to be one of those extraordinarily special guys. I was so-so on him in the draft, but I am perfectly happy to admit that I was wrong. He looks like he's going to be a stud for a long, long time to come.

With all of the extra picks we have coming up in future drafts, we should be able to add quality pieces around him as well. (while some of those picks may not bring us starters, they can be used for specialty type players, like a spot up shooter, who would thrive with Irving's ability to drive and dish)


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Get Kyrie a SG and watch his assists sky rocket.

It's incredible what this kid has done with no offseason.

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and a hard crashing SF. I


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I think we have our SF in Alonzo Gee, I like what Atawn has done for us but I think we have to trade him. Wiht our own pick + a pick for him we can come out of the draft with a top SG. Irving at 1,draftee at 2, Gee at 3, TT at 4, and Andy at 5

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Jamison is expiring and I don't think we'd get much for him unless we took on someone elses bad contract. even then, we're probably talking about a pick in the middle of the 1st round or up (those are the teams that might need him short-term). Doubt it will be much incentive to move up from wherever our pick is. Might be best to just let his contract expire.

I like Gee as a rotational player, but I want a more top-flight guy at SF if we can find one. If we have an elite guy at SG, then it won't matter as much of course.


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OKC is running boston out of the arena

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Good.

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Thompson is making Kaman look like a sloth out there.

Ha ha nevermind, he hits 2 baskets after i say that.

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OKC has 66 points with 2 minutes left in the first half

damn

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It's an offensive night, which is great for the fantasy game.

Wizards 68 Kings 60 at the half.

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The fact that Jamison is expiring is what makes him valuable. I would gladly take a mid 1st for him, the more picks we stock up, the more ammo we have to work with.

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What's up with Irving tonight?


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There's freedom in the mid range game AC says.

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The fact that Jamison is expiring is what makes him valuable. I would gladly take a mid 1st for him, the more picks we stock up, the more ammo we have to work with.

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But what team would take him that would be in the middle of the 1st round?

It's your top teams that need a scoring PF that would be interested (dunno who that is) and then you're looking at a pick in the 20s.. I guess seeing as he's basically gone next year it'd be worth it, as long as we didn't have to take a crappy contract on in return...


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What's up with Irving tonight?




Should have drafted Brandon Knight instead of this bum!


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The fact that Jamison is expiring is what makes him valuable. I would gladly take a mid 1st for him, the more picks we stock up, the more ammo we have to work with.

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But what team would take him that would be in the middle of the 1st round?

It's your top teams that need a scoring PF that would be interested (dunno who that is) and then you're looking at a pick in the 20s.. I guess seeing as he's basically gone next year it'd be worth it, as long as we didn't have to take a crappy contract on in return...




and we would have to take back a bad contract for it to be "worth" it to them. no thank you. let's just clear the deck and start fresh unless someone has something worthwhile to offer.


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Really love watching OKC play. Love that their fans are so into it, old-school type crowd.

As long as they can keep Perk healthy, and Westbrook under control, I love their chances and I think they all work well together. Westbrook deviates from the pecking order a little bit, but I think that's ok as long as they can curb it.

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honestly, Harden is the one to worry about deviating. i love his game as a 6th man, but when he's on the floor with Durant and Westbrook he tries to force too much when he gets the ball. the ball stops in his hands despite that he could be a deadly outside shooter if he either just shoots or keeps the ball moving in those situations.

agreed on Perk. still can't believe that the Celtics gave up Perk for Green.


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The fact that Jamison is expiring is what makes him valuable. I would gladly take a mid 1st for him, the more picks we stock up, the more ammo we have to work with.

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I talked about this before ... I don't know how valuable an expiring contract is at the moment, with the amnesty clause they put in last year. What made expiring's valuable, is that other teams could use them to dump a bad contract and clear cap room. Well ... most teams have dumped their bad contracts already with the amnesty rule. Also remember we had a $15M trade exemption last year ... which is basically a 15 million dollar *flexible* expiring contract ... and we couldn't trade it for anything.

Plus this isn't the NFL ... having a bunch of mid to late first round picks and second round picks, isn't going to equate to trading up to the top of the first round. Can you think of any team that would want to do that? If the Cavs picked in the top 5, would you want them trading down for a couple of mid-first rounders? ... and we're one of the worst "depth" teams in the league.

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however, if we can get a late teen / early 20s pick, then we could just use that pick. there are some interesting big guys that will be available in that range (and we can get rid of Harangody and/or Hollins)


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I just hope Grant isn't stupid and tries to resign Jamison.

That would be a nightmare

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Jamison will be destroying some other teams chances at a title next year as he "chases" a ring


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