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Thanks Mourg.

Sucks for Brooks. As I posted in that thread, he really dominated the Shrine game.

I don't get the hype around Jones. What did he have, 4.5 sacks? 10 over the course of three years? And some are calling him top 40?

Bummer for Barron.

Ingram's got to learn to use his hands better if he's going to be a DE.

1) I'm thinking Burfict will fall in the draft and fall HARD. I'm thinking he will be there in the 3rd round.. I'd draft him if so.

2) I really want Michael Floyd. I think he is a great WR and would really help stretch this offense. I'm crossing my fingers he is there at 22.

Browns: This week's NFL combine is about much more than Robert Griffin III

Published: Monday, February 20, 2012

By Jeff Schudel
JSchudel@News-Herald.com
@jsbrownsinsider

Oklahoma State's Justin Blackmon, left, against Stanford's Myles Muagututia, right, during the Fiesta Bowl NCAA college football game Monday, Jan. 2, 2012, in Glendale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Paul Connors)

Contrary to what the situation might seem after reading the comments of prominent draft analysts last week, the NFL scouting combine that begins Wednesday in Indianapolis is about far more to the Browns than just Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III.

A total of 327 players will be measured, tested, timed and prodded by all 32 teams in the NFL. Most importantly, they will be interviewed.

The Browns' entourage will be led by General Manager Tom Heckert. Team president Mike Holmgren runs the show in Berea, but draft preparation is definitely Heckert's baby.

"We think we have a pretty good defense; we really do," Heckert said during a season wrap-up, the last time he made himself available to the media. "We think that's only going to get better with the young guys playing more, and we think we have a chance to be really good on defense.

"Obviously, on offense we need to upgrade all over the place. We want guys that score touchdowns. We've got to protect better. We are looking at all the positions."

Last week, NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock and ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay said if they were running the Browns' draft, they would package the fourth and 22nd picks in the first round in a trade with the Rams for the second pick and use it on Griffin.

If the Browns do make that deal with the Rams, they won't make their next selection until they pick fifth in the second round — 37th overall. By then, they could get shut out of the top wide receivers in the draft.

According to Mayock, the wide receiver talent drops after the top four, which he lists as Justin Blackmon of Oklahoma State, Kendall Wright of Baylor, Michael Floyd of Notre Dame and Mohamed Sanu of Rutgers. All are projected as first-round picks.

"I think as far as Blackmon is concerned, you have to look at him a little bit like Larry Fitzgerald a few years ago (2004), which (means) I don't think he's going to run a great 40," Mayock said during a conference call. "I think he's going to run a 4.5 or a 4.52 or somewhere in there. And I think you have to say that's OK, because he's big, he's physical; he's got tremendous body control and tremendous ball skills.

"I don't think you're going to see a guy that wows you with vertical speed, but his body control, hands, ability to catch the football are exceptional."

Wright, the fastest among the top-rated receivers — coincidentally, Griffin's college teammate — has been clocked at 4.42 in the 40-yard dash. Joe Adams of Arkansas is projected to be among the fastest receivers at the combine (an estimated 4.38 40-yard dash), but NFLdraftscout.com ranks Adams as no better than a third-round pick.

Alshon Jeffery of South Carolina will also attract attention at the combine, and he could be available with the 37th pick. But Mayock is not a big fan of Jeffery's.

"Alshon Jeffery does not separate," Mayock said. "What those guys run (at the combine) is going to be very important."

Jeffery has run the 40-yard dash in 4.56 seconds. Mayock was critical of Jeffery leaving South Carolina after his junior season. He caught 88 passes for 1,517 yards and nine touchdowns as a sophomore in 2010. This past season, the Gamecocks' starting quarterback was kicked off the team and Jeffery's production took a huge hit — 49 catches for 762 yards and eight touchdowns.

Of course, the Browns could upgrade wide receiver in free agency, which begins on March 13 — about six weeks before the draft. But because free agency doesn't start until two weeks after the combine ends, wide receiver will be a prime position of focus for the Browns.

One can't-miss back

There are no guarantees at any position in the draft, but the one running back with first-round credentials heading into the combine is Trent Richardson of Alabama.

Almost nothing Richardson does in Indianapolis this week is going to knock him out of his top-10 projection. If the Browns don't trade the fourth pick, they could upgrade running back instantly by taking Richardson.

Other backs who will be studied closely in Indianapolis include David Wilson of Virginia Tech and Lamar Miller from Miami, Fla.

McShay offered this critique of Wilson during his conference call: "I like him," McShay said. "I don't think he has great vision and patience as a back. He flashes it, but sometime he gets a little greedy and tries to bounce too many inside runs to the outside. I think he's good at just about everywhere else. His adequate hands can be a weapon in the passing game. Good agility, good power, very good balance I think as a runner, but he's just not a huge guy, not great in terms of his initial explosiveness."

The combine will be important for the 5-foot-10, 205-pound former Hokie. He had a reputation as a fumbler in college and has to prove to NFL teams he can catch the ball. He rushed for 1,709 yards on 290 carries and caught 22 passes for 129 yards and one touchdown.

Mel Kiper Jr. ranks Miller as the second-best back behind Richardson. Kiper projects the former Hurricane as a first-round pick going to the Bengals with the 21st pick. Miller (5-11, 212) rushed 227 times for 1,272 yards and nine touchdowns as a redshirt sophomore in 2011. He caught 17 passes.

Beefing up the line

Fans have differing opinions about how good Colt McCoy can be or whether Peyton Hillis should be re-signed, but they are unanimous in saying the offensive line has to be improved.

When Heckert comes out and says publicly, "We've got to protect better," you know a part of the combine will be dedicated to unearthing a right tackle and at least one guard.

Mayock said this draft is a good one for guards and centers. The Browns don't need a center because they have Alex Mack, but they will be looking at guards, especially since there is no guarantee Eric Steinbach will return from the back surgery that kept him out all of 2011.

"David DeCastro (Stanford guard, 6-5, 312) to me is a first-round interior offensive lineman," Mayock said. "Peter Konz, the center from Wisconsin, is a late one to mid-two. I think (Kevin) Zeifer from Wisconsin is also in that same range, and you might get Ben Jones from Georgia Tech late in the second round. For the first three rounds, you can get a lot of quality at center and guard."

Konz is 6-5, 315 pounds and can play guard in the NFL. Zeifer is 6-4, 318.

Bobby Massie (6-6, 325) from Mississippi is a player teams will be eyeing as a right tackle. He is projected as a second-round or third-round pick.

Can people answer me this????


Why do people still talk to Todd McShay???? The guy is a moron...

Is it because the guys worth speaking to aren't available???

Everybody who disagrees with me is a moron.

Todd McShay is a moron.


Mel Kiper, Mike Mayock, Charles Davis, Pat Kirwan, Gil Brandt, Charlie Casserly >>> Turd McShay.

The Browns better not burn #22 on a RT.

Ugh...

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The Browns better not burn #22 on a RT.

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i'm not a Ryan Tannehill fan either.

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Here is the complete Combine schedule NOT from some fan site: http://www.atlantafalcons.com/2012/02/complete-combine-schedule-released/


Wednesday, Feb. 22
Day 1 arrivals: kickers, special teams, offensive line and tight ends.
Registration, hospital pre-exam and X-rays, orientation and team interviews.

Thursday, Feb. 23
Day 2 arrivals: quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs.
Measurements, medical exam, media, psychological testing and team interviews for K, ST, OL and TE.
Registration, hospital pre-exam and X-rays, orientation and team interviews for QB, WR and RB.

Friday, Feb. 24
Day 3 arrivals: defensive line and linebackers.
Registration, hospital pre-exam and X-rays, orientation and team interviews for DL and LB.
NFLPA meeting, psychological testing, PK/ST workout, interviews for K and ST.
Measurements, medical exam, media, psychological testing and team interviews for QB, WR and RB.

Saturday, Feb. 25
NFL Network live coverage from 9 a.m.-7 p.m.; NFL.com streaming live all day
Day 4 arrivals: cornerbacks and safeties.
Registration, hospital pre-exam and X-rays, orientation and team interviews for CB and S.
Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) for K, OL and TE.
Measurements, medical exam, media, psychological testing and team interviews for DL and LB.
NFLPA meeting, psychological testing, PK/ST workout, interviews for QB, WR and RB.

Sunday, Feb. 26
NFL Network live coverage from 9 a.m.-7 p.m.; NFL.com streaming live all day
Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) for QB, WR and RB.
NFLPA meeting, psychological testing, PK/ST workout, interviews for DL and LB.
Measurements, medical exam, media, psychological testing and team interviews for CB and S.

Monday, Feb. 27
NFL Network live coverage from 9 a.m.-7 p.m.; NFL.com streaming live all day
Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) for DL and LB.
NFLPA meeting, psychological testing, PK/ST workout, interviews for CB and S.

Tuesday, Feb. 28
NFL Network live coverage from 9 a.m.-7 p.m.; NFL.com streaming live all day
Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) for CB and S.

that's the same schedule

Almost certainly... but it is from a source that is permitted.
It also is pleasantly devoid of the other site's author comments on "what to watch for".

... or they'll suffer the wrath of oobernoober!

Just clicking

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else but here are some news and notes from Mary Kay today

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Cleveland Browns at the NFL Combine: News and Notes
Published: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 12:51 PM Updated: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 2:01 PM
By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer
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AP FileAlabama's Trent Richardson will work out for teams on March 27.
INDIANAPOLIS -- Plain Dealer reporters Mary Kay Cabot and Dennis Manoloff will provide updates through Sunday from the NFL Combine, where more than 300 NFL players will be evaluated by all 32 teams:

RICHARDSON MAR. 27: Alabama running back Trent Richardson, who underwent a minor knee scope about three weeks ago, will work out for teams on March 27. Richardson, a Heisman Trophy finalist, is on the Browns radar at No. 4. Only one tailback was taken in the first round last season -- Richardson's former teammate Mark Ingram. In fact, according to Lindy's Sports Pro Football draft book, none of the NFL's top five rushers in 2011 were drafted in the top 50. -- MKC

WALLACE FRANCHISED? If the Browns were hoping Steelers speedy receiver Mike Wallace would be available as a RFA, they'll be disappointed. Steelers GM Kevin Colbert indicated today that the club might franchise Wallace. "We want Mike to finish his career with the Steelers,'' Colbert said. -- MKC

FREE AGENTS: Something could happen this week with one or more of the Browns' free agents. Browns GM Tom Heckert is working to get some of the re-signed, and the Browns are prepared to use their franchise tag. Right now, the likeliest candidate is D'Qwell Jackson, who's seeking a five-year deal. Heckert might meet in Indy with Jackson's agent Brian Mackler. -- MKC

VIKINGS MIGHT DEAL NO. 3: Vikings GM Rick Spielman said today he anticipates there will be interest in the No. 3 overall pick and that he'll be willing to trade down. He said the Vikings still like QB Christian Ponder, but are studying Stanford QB Andrew Luck and Baylor QB Robert Griffin III. -- MKC

SHURMUR AT PODIUM: Browns coach Pat Shurmur will address the national media today here at 4 p.m. He'll be peppered with questions about RG3. Heckert is not on the schedule yet. -- MKC



NFL Combine Interview: Philip Blake, Baylor

The Plain Dealer's Dennis Manoloff caught up with Baylor's Philip Blake at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Dennis talked with the center about his quarterback of two years, Robert Griffin III, and what kind of player the Browns would be getting if they do select Griffin. Blake also mentioned during his media session that he has talked with the Browns.

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RG3's CENTER: Philip Blake, Baylor's center the past two seasons, said quarterback Robert Griffin III will have no problem taking snaps under center as a professional.

Griffin won the Heisman Trophy in 2011 while throwing out of the shotgun.

"He was under center in practice and never had any issues,'' Blake said. "He was just as good. Robert's a very smart guy. He can adjust to anything.''

Blake, projected to go in the fourth round, is a converted tackle. He said the Browns were one of the teams with which he met Thursday morning. -- DM

OSU's ADAMS: Ohio State starting left tackle Mike Adams said he's talked to the Browns and that they've discussed using him at right tackle. Adams is a possible candidate for the Browns at No. 22 overall. The Redskins have also talked to him about RT. -- MKC

HARBAUGH ON LUCK: 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh on his former Stanford QB Andrew Luck. "He's got all the qualities mentally and physically. He's as prepared as anybody you're going to find.'' -- MKC

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By NFL.com Staff |
Published: February 23rd, 2012 | Tags: 2012 NFL Scouting Combine, Andrew Luck, Cleveland Browns, Pat Shurmur, Robert Griffin III
INDIANAPOLIS — Pat Shurmur wants you to know that the Browns aren’t scared to gamble come draft day.
“I wouldn’t say we’re hesitant to do anything,” Cleveland’s coach said. “We’re excited about the fact that we’re going to make our team better with this draft, and I think that’s the way we approach it. We’re not hesitant at all.
“… I think we’re willing (to move up). With two first-round picks, we have flexibility. We can just stand pat and take two really fine players, guys that we hope would be starters for us. And then, obviously with two first-round picks, you have flexibility if you want to do something.”
It’s no confirmation that Cleveland will wheel and deal come April’s draft, but Shurmur’s heard the rumors about chasing after Baylor’s Robert Griffin III, and will not pass up the opportunity to roll the dynamic signal-caller through the car wash at this week’s scouting combine.
Griffin appears to be a logical target for the Browns, but Shurmur indicated that he and his staff (minus general manager Tom Heckert, who’s home sick in Cleveland) haven’t ruled out Stanford’s Andrew Luck, presumably the draft’s top pick.
Asked if the Browns have yet to concede Luck to the Colts, the suddenly daring Shurmur left it open to interpretation: “Well, I don’t know how you want to say it or write that. But we’re going to talk to him.”
– Marc Sessler

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/23/shurmur-browns-willing-to-deal-draft-picks/

Purp, how excited are you for the ST and K workouts?

When will the "official" measurements for guys like the top QBs be out?

A couple first results of note:

Riley Reiff came out with an arm-length of only 33.25 inches - which might draw some Robert Gallery worries that early in the draft. Tony Bergstrom also came in at 32 inches, which likely signals a move to guard.

We all know that RGIII is just as tall as Luck anyway.

I remember somebody posting a picture of them standing next to each other at the Heisman ceremony and they were obviously the same height. And RGIII is a known sloucher so he is probably at least 6'6". Also, we could ask Jordan Norwood's father how tall he is.

I thought Reiff would be lucky to be a RT and likely was a guard at the next level. Jonathon Martin will shoot up the boards after this week. His long arms and great feet are gonna wow. Mike Adams has a chance to get into the top 12 this week, right now I have him going to Zona.

Where are you seeing the measurements? Is it online yet?

They were showing some of the measurements earlier on NFL network but havent reallly paid a lot of attention to it.

I've seen them listed online here, no clue about the accuracy:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/combine/ot.html

Thanks. Strange that they round heights though

Brown's notes

2012 NFL Scouting Combine: Browns coach Pat Shurmur looking forward to meeting RG3; other highlights



By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal sports writer
Published: February 22, 2012 - 01:55 PM


Coach Pat Shurmur and offensive coordinator Brad Childress met with reporters this morning before heading to Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine. Here are some highlights from the interviews:

• The Browns’ bigwigs have said they want to acquire a quarterback who can compete for a starting job with Colt McCoy and Seneca Wallace. And with the Browns owning the fourth and 22nd overall picks in this year, most draft gurus believe the Browns will try to pick Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III early in the first round — even if they need to trade up to the No. 2 slot to do it — as long as they don’t acquire another quarterback such as Green Bay Packers backup Matt Flynn in free agency. Of course, it’s too early to know how it will play out, but Shurmur is looking forward to learning more about RG3 this week at the combine in Indianapolis.

“I’ve never met the man,” Shurmur said of Griffin. “So that’s why this combine is going to be so important for me, and that’s the case of a lot of the draftable players. I’ve watched them all on tape — all the guys that we’re going to interview — and I have opinions on them. But (Griffin) is obviously very accomplished as a college quarterback, and as we go through it all, we’ll determine whether he’s what everybody says he is.”

So is it premature to say the Browns will kick McCoy to the curb and trade up to draft Griffin? “Folks are making predictions when we’re still gathering information, and I think that’s the important part,” Shurmur said. “That’s the exciting thing about the combine. You have over 300 athletes in one place and you have most of your organization here, and we’re digging to try to find everything we can about a player, and so that’s where we’re at.”

NFL teams are allowed to interview as many as 60 players at the combine, and Griffin will certainly be on their list. “I saw the comebacks that you guys saw,” Childress said of Griffin’s career at Baylor. “The guy (was) making plays that were there and some that aren’t there.”

Griffin played in a spread offense at Baylor. But Childress doesn’t think the Browns should not hesitate to draft a player just because he hasn’t been schooled in the West Coast offense. “I don’t think there’s a hesitation if you feel like the guy’s the quarterback that you’re looking for,” Childress said. “Quarterbacks are like buying cars. If you don’t like it, you need to move on. If you don’t like the way it feels, or handles or looks, you need to move on. If there’s something that bothers you, you move on. With that said, you typically don’t ever want to pass a franchise quarterback if there’s one there. But somebody’s going to have to deem that in the first year, not say after year six, how that guy’s going to be.”

Childress also said it’s wise to play to the strengths of the quarterback and seemed open to the idea of adjusting the offense depending on the quarterback’s skill set. “It is a balance,” Childress said. “Somewhere you have a system that you play to, and I know that (Denver Broncos offensive coordinator) Mike McCoy did a tremendous job with a different skill set with Tim Tebow in developing things around the quarterback. Does your scheme have to change? You usually try to play to whatever somebody’s strengths are.”

As for McCoy, he’s healthy again after missing the final three games of the 2011 season with a concussion, Shurmur said. Childress said he views McCoy as a second-year quarterback who has not had the benefit of an offseason. Both Shurmur and Childress said they expect McCoy to improve. No matter what the Browns decide, they know it’ll be vital to the organization’s attempt to reverse its fortunes. “It’s obviously very important that we do the right thing when it comes to the quarterback, so we try to evaluate it all and then in relation to the other needs on the team as well,” Shurmur said. “It’s important that we make the right decision.”

• Shurmur said he will retain play-calling duties, but he will be in constant communication with Childress, who will be stationed in the press box during games. “Unless things change, Brad will be upstairs,” Shurmur said. “During the week, you decide what the plays are going to be. That’s what you write on the card, and then you call them. There’s constant interaction between the play-caller and the other people on offense. Every place I’ve been, that’s always been the case. So, yeah, I’ll be on the field right now and calling (plays), but it’s constant communication. People talk about halftime adjustments. Well, there’s adjustments going on all the time, and that’s why we wear the headsets so that we can communicate.” Childress, a former head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, said the team’s play-calling plan doesn’t bother him. “It really is all collaborative,” Childress said. “It’s not like somebody’s going to pull something out from 1965 and everybody goes, ‘What the hell is that?’ But it’s all about the game-planning. … I think everybody’s going to have a hand in it, and I’m good with it.”

• Other highlights: Shurmur reiterated that the Browns want to re-sign starting middle linebacker D’Qwell Jackson, who’s scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent on March 13. Shurmur said the team hasn’t made a decision on whether it will place the franchise tag on Jackson. “We’re going to be willing to use (the franchise tag),” Shurmur said. “As you go through signing our free agents, then we’ll see what’s the best place to use that tag.”… Shurmur said he has talked to running back Peyton Hillis, who’s also set to become an unrestricted free agent, a few times since the end of the season. Shurmur said he liked the way Hillis played last season once he was healthy, but he said he doesn’t know if Hillis will be back with the team. … Shurmur also wouldn’t get into specifics when asked if the Browns will try to retain kicker Phil Dawson, but he said there’s work being done to bring back cornerback Dimitri Patterson and free safety Mike Adams. … Shurmur said Eric Steinbach is doing very well and working out as he tries to come back from a season-ending back injury and a subsequent surgery. Shurmur did not commit to Steinbach as a starter. … Shurmur said he sees Jason Pinkston as a guard and wants him to continue to develop at guard instead of moving to tackle. … When asked if the Browns need to upgrade at right tackle, Shurmur mentioned Tony Pashos but said, “we’ll have to see who’s gonna play there at this point.” … Shurmur did not rule out making changes at linebacker, but he was pleased with group’s performance last season. … Shurmur said the Browns will try to get better at right defensive end. … Shurmur said he thinks Usama Young can still start at free safety, even though Young is better near the line of scrimmage and played strong safety last year after T.J. Ward suffered a season-ending foot injury. … Childress thinks it’s interesting that Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill was able to transition from wide receiver to quarterback. Childress considers it a plus and believes it shows Tannehill is a stellar athlete. Childress also said Tannehill would probably immediately recognize concepts from the Browns’ offense because he played in Mike Sherman’s West Coast offense at Texas A&M.

Unofficial height that I have seen on RG3: 6' 2 3/8"

I believe QB's get measured today so we will see. I did notice yesterday that Mike Adams who was listed as 6'8 came in at 6'7 and Brewster came in at I believe in inch shorter and at 312 pounds.

Loyal...a lot of good stuff in this article...thanks for sharing.

http://walterfootball.com/combine2012weighin1.php

By Charlie Campbell.
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2012 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Offensive Linemen

Ohio State tackle Mike Adams (6-7, 323) is Mr. Consistent. At the Senior Bowl, his weight was exactly the same. If anything, that helps NFL teams to know that Adams doesn't let himself get out of shape or lose bulk while just doing workouts. If Adams performs well in the on-field drills, he can solidify his stock as a late first-rounder.

The Combine is going to be very important for Florida State offensive tackle Andrew Datko (6-6, 315). He missed the majority of the 2011 season with a shoulder injury. His physical is critical for him to show that his injury is behind him and teams shouldn't worry about him re-injuring the shoulder. Datko checked in with a slightly below average arm length of 33 7/8.

Stanford standout guard David DeCastro (6-4, 316) had solid measurements. He was slightly shorter and heavier than his listed numbers (6-5, 310). The Combine workouts shouldn't have much of an impact on him, but the interviews could push a team to feeling they have to come away with him on draft day. He was known as a leader in the Stanford locker room.




Like Adams, Georgia guard/tackle Cordy Glenn (6-5, 345) was spot on with his Senior Bowl measurements. Glenn's arms (35 3/4) were some of the longest of any of the offensive linemen. That will help his argument to be considered as a tackle for teams needing an edge blocker.

The consensus top rated offensive linemen, USC left tackle Matt Kalil, checked in at 6-foot-6, 306-pounds. That is a little shorter and heavier than his stated weight (6-7, 295). Kalil's arm length (34 1/2) was nothing to be concerned about. His bench press number will be worth noting because he could use some more power for run blocking.

One has to laugh at Washington tackle/guard Senio Kelemete (6-4, 307) growing an inch and gaining seven pounds from the Senior Bowl. He measured in at 6-foot-3, 300-pounds in Mobile. Obviously, there was some human error in one of the measurements, but if Kelemete could continue to add height, it could help his draft status.

The top-rated center in the draft, Wisconsin's Peter Konz, had a respectable check-in at 6-foot-5, 314-pounds. His arm length (33) isn't a concern for an interior lineman.

Stanford offensive tackle Jonathan Martin (6-5, 312) produced some solid measurements, and his arm length (34 inches) shouldn't hurt his stock. If he shows good athleticism in the field drills, he could get a nice boost from the Combine.



Ole Miss offensive tackle Bobby Massie (6-6, 316) is a powerful lineman. His strength is even more impressive with his long arms (35 inches). Massie is a sleeper day-two prospect who could yield a big reward at the next level.

Iowa State guard/tackle Kelechi Osemele (6-6, 333) had the longest arms of any of the offensive linemen at the Combine (35 7/8). That should help his stock and illustrate why he could be a right tackle in the NFL. His weight is the same from Senior Bowl, but if he dropped down into the low 320s, that might help his quickness and ability to mirror speed rushers.

Boise State offense tackle Nate Potter (6-6, 303) is lighter than most, but he had quality arm length (34 5/8). He has been a good pass protector in his collegiate career and had the body type to match up with speed rushers. He needs to show some quick feet in the on field drills.

One of the rising prospects in the past couple months has been Iowa left tackle Riley Reiff, who went from the teens to the top 10 and passed Jonathan Martin as the second-rated tackle by many pundits. Reiff (6-5, 313) had good height and weight, but his arm length (33 1/4) is a little shorter than expected. Some teams will be concerned about his arms being less than ideal for a franchise left tackle.

Florida State offensive tackle Zebrie Sanders must have been drinking the same water as Kelemete because Sanders grew from his Senior Bowl measurements. In Mobile about a month ago, the former Seminole was 6-foot-5, 308-pounds. He checked in at 6-foot-6, 320-pounds Thursday. He had a bad performance at the Senior Bowl and needs a good Combine to help change his momentum.





2012 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Tight Ends

Clemson tight end Dwayne Allen (6-3, 255) is thickly built. If he runs well at that size that could help his stock, as many teams will like the size he brings to run blocking. There were only two tight ends that were heavier than Allen.

Georgia tight end Orson Charles has been hitting the gym. Charles (6-2, 251) was an inch shorter and 10 pounds heavier than his listed weight in college. That added bulk could make Charles a better blocker.

Stanford tight end Coby Fleener (6-6, 247) won't run at the combine because of an ankle injury. His 10-inch hands were the third largest of any of the tight ends. Fleener is a late first-round or high second-round pick right now. A strong Combine could have helped push him into Round 1. Now teams will have to wait until his Pro Day to get a gauge on his foot speed.

Louisiana-Lafayette tight end Ladarius Green (6-6, 238) needs to add some more bulk to his frame. Green did tie with Oregon's David Paulson for the largest hands of any tight end. If he is unable to add weight, he could be pigeonholed into a receiving, situational tight end. He also could be considered as an H-back, but it would be ideal if he could add 12 pounds to be a viable three-down tight end. Green weighed the least of any tight end at the combine.

The title of largest blocking tight end belongs to UCLA's Cory Harkey (6-4, 260). Teams that need a goal-line tight end could give him a hard look as a late-round pick.

Louisiana-Lafayette tight end Ladarius Green (6-6, 238) needs to add some more bulk to his frame. Green did tie with Oregon's David Paulson for the largest hands of any tight end. If he is unable to add weight, he could be pigeonholed into a receiving, situational tight end. He also could be considered as an H-back, but it would be ideal if he could add 12 pounds to be a viable three-down tight end. Green weighed the least of any tight end at the combine.

Would love to add this kid in the 4th. He just has that great body control for a guy his size, reminds me a lot of K2.

12 lbs is a piece of cake to add.

Heck, get him onto a solid diet and a quality strength program immediately after the draft and he could add that by the start of training camp... start of the season at the latest.

Man, that's a big piece of cake.

Well, if I can add 25 lbs of lean mass in 6 months on my own without nutritionists and working out in my spare time, I would expect that a guy getting paid to be an athlete all day can add half that in half the time.

I was envisioning a 12pound piece of cake. That's all.