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We have our first cut of the off-season!

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Oakland released cornerback Stanford Routt on Thursday, less than a year after the team gave him a “five-year, $54.5 million” contract. (It was originally a three-year, $31.5 million deal, then the team restructured the deal.)




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Who?

I mean .... "We gotta get that guy!"

Man .... that's a lotta coin for a guy who has only started 23 games in the past 5 years. He had a whopping 24 tackles, 1 sack, and no INT for an average of $10 million this year.

I suspect that the Raiders are going to go into housecleaning mode with a whole new front office, and with the passing of Al Davis.


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this was the guy who claimed to be just as good as Revis. Guess the raiders didn't think so.


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We have our first cut of the off-season!

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Oakland released cornerback Stanford Routt on Thursday, less than a year after the team gave him a “five-year, $54.5 million” contract. (It was originally a three-year, $31.5 million deal, then the team restructured the deal.)




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Steelers already cut CB McFadden as well. Guess it stinks to be a CB this time of year.

(I would consider Routt if we didn't have nickelbacks already. He's a very good coverage guy but can't tackle worth anything)


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this was the guy who claimed to be just as good as Revis. Guess the raiders didn't think so.




I'm pretty sure their only problem w/ him was he was so ridiculously overpaid under good ol' Al's rule. Now things will be run a lot more wisely . . .

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That, and he was a PI machine.


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Continuing a proud Cleveland tradition. Flag magnet if I am thinking of the right guy. Pass.


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this was the guy who claimed to be just as good as Revis. Guess the raiders didn't think so.




I'm pretty sure their only problem w/ him was he was so ridiculously overpaid under good ol' Al's rule. Now things will be run a lot more wisely . . .




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Hines Ward is one of the iconic Pittsburgh Steelers. As such, Ward playing football in anything but black and gold would feel like a mismatch.

But NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora told “NFL Total Access” Friday that Ward won’t be back next season, according to his sources.

As the Steelers work to restructure contracts and manuever below the salary cap, the circumstances are dictating the twilight of Ward’s 14-year career. On the books, he has one year and $4 million left on his current contract. On the field, Ward also took a backseat to youngsters Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown, posting his lowest receiving totals since his rookie season in 1998.

The Steelers have adjusted the contracts of CB Ike Taylor and linebackers Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley. They might not be done, as La Canfora suggested S Troy Polamalu ($6.25 million next season) and QB Ben Roethlisberger ($11.6) could be next.

Ward has left the window open to playing elsewhere next season, but the choice might not be his if he can’t work out his own restructured deal.




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Let me be the first to say....NO!

I don't know if there's an NFL player I dislike more.

His cheap, head hunting crack backs have injured and ended the seasons of many a player.

He's going to get his due in short order. I fully expect him to have major ramifications from the concussions he's sustained both dealing those cheap shots and the onfield payback he's gotten from them.

He's made his bed. Now he has to sleep in it.


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LOL,, I think he means, NO, we don't need to get this guy!


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Let me be the first to say....NO!

I don't know if there's an NFL player I dislike more.

His cheap, head hunting crack backs have injured and ended the seasons of many a player.

He's going to get his due in short order. I fully expect him to have major ramifications from the concussions he's sustained both dealing those cheap shots and the onfield payback he's gotten from them.

He's made his bed. Now he has to sleep in it.




I don't like the guy.. but I'm not gonna sit here and wish that his body suffers post-football.


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i don't think he was wishing. i think he's being pragmatic. just like harrison, you deal blows with your head and the consequences will come at some point.


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I hope they keep Whines Hard on the team at least one more season.

We only have to see him twice a year at this rate, out of football we'll see him every weekend on some network.


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Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward wants to finish his career in Pittsburgh and has offered to restructure his contract to do it.

Ward posted on his Facebook page Saturday that he already told the Steelers he's willing to work with them on altering his deal so he can remain with the team.

"I don't normally like to respond to rumors, but as I've said all along, I want to finish my career with the Pittsburgh Steelers," Ward wrote. "And as I've already told the organization, I am willing to work with them to restructure my contract to make sure this happens."

On Friday, NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora reported the Steelers plan to cut the franchise's all-time leading receiver, who recently underwent ankle surgery.

The 35-year-old Ward is scheduled to make $4 million in 2012. He's coming off a season in which he finished with 46 receptions for 381 yards and two touchdowns, the lowest totals in each category since he was a rookie in 1998.

Ward became the eighth player in league history to reach 1,000 career receptions in Pittsburgh's regular-season finale against the Cleveland Browns. He and Jerry Rice are the only players to ever reach 1,000 receptions and win multiple Super Bowls.

Yet Ward's role within the offense diminished as Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders passed him on the depth chart and Mike Wallace became a Pro Bowl-caliber player. Ward pushed aside speculation he would retire after the Steelers' season ended with a 29-23 overtime loss to the Denver Broncos in the wild-card round.

"No, I'm not even thinking about that," Ward said at the time.

Wallace, Brown and Sanders have spoken at length about Ward's leadership and all want No. 86 to be on the field next season.

"He sets the tone in the room," Brown said of Ward. "We definitely want to help a guy like him win."

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Maybe he should just consider retiring this year.....doesn't sound the Steelers want to keep him...

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Let me be the first to say....NO!

I don't know if there's an NFL player I dislike more.

His cheap, head hunting crack backs have injured and ended the seasons of many a player.

He's going to get his due in short order. I fully expect him to have major ramifications from the concussions he's sustained both dealing those cheap shots and the onfield payback he's gotten from them.

He's made his bed. Now he has to sleep in it.




I don't like the guy.. but I'm not gonna sit here and wish that his body suffers post-football.




I'm not here wishing Hines Ward is eating through a straw in ten years.

I'm saying if you play dirty, give cheap shots and generally p off every team you play against by purposely injuring their players unnecessarily....then you get what comes to you.

It's called karma.

He's given cheap shots to at least a half dozen Browns over his career. I remember he knocked out Earl Little by blindsiding him away from the play...then stood over him like a man

I was watching a Bengals Stillers game and saw this and thought...he's going to get himself killed pulling crap like this. Keith Rivers was out the rest of the season from this shot.



And here's one of him getting his....



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Ward is a ., who cares if he gets what is coming to him?

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-3 Yards.


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This is the time of year many NFL veterans dread. It's when that contract that looked so appealing just a few years ago -- in an era where nothing is fully guaranteed in this league -- suddenly becomes much less palatable.

It's a time for teams to get cap-compliant and prepare for the 2012 season; a time of contract restructuring, and in many cases, of players being released. "Cap Casualty Season," you could call it. Age, injury, lack of production, a bloated contract or all of the above can lead to many a player looking for a new home. Just ask Stanford Routt, who a year ago at this time was becoming one of the highest-paid corners in the NFL with the Raiders, and is now on free agent visits. (Albeit pocketing that $20 million guaranteed surely provides some solace, and the immediate interest from outside clubs has been significant.)

For many others, the segue to that next team, and next contract, could be far more drawn out and circuitous. In many cases, it's a hulking, ominous, looming roster bonus that leads to a departure. Of course, Peyton Manning immediately comes to mind on this subject -- something that has been covered ad nauseam. But beyond Peyton, the majority of those set for big roster-bonus paydays are in good shape. Kevin Kolb has the biggest -- a $7 million roster bonus due March 17 with the Cardinals -- and absent a power play for Manning himself, Kolb's in good shape for pocketing that.

Other bonuses, like New England's Tom Brady ($6 million), Philadelphia's Cullen Jenkins ($5 million) and Cincinnati's Leon Hall ($5 million), seem automatic to be picked up, even with Hall coming off injury. Routt's former secondary partner in Oakland, Michael Huff, however, could be in serious danger of hitting the open market with a $4 million roster bonus due by March 16. (And with the Raiders still over the cap, an exodus could be coming; more on that below.)

Otherwise, some the biggest roster bonuses go to San Francisco's Frank Gore ($3.6 million), Jacksonville's Mike Thomas ($3.5 million) and Marcedes Lewis ($3 million), Denver's Champ Bailey ($3 million) and the New York Jets' Antonio Cromartie ($3 million). Again, all likely to stay put, with all of those players just one year into their latest contracts. A few young players with roster bonuses at least worth monitoring: Mark Sanchez is due $2.75 million on the 15th day of the league year, which begins March 13; and Dez Bryant, also underachieving, is due $1.44 million on the 10th day of the league year.

But Huff isn't the only defensive back to be staring at an uncertain future. Terence Newman already got one more year in Dallas than many figured, and with a $6 million base salary coming off a subpar season, this could be the end. The Vikings, in rebuild mode, face a dilemma with corners Antoine Winfield ($7 million base) and Cedric Griffin ($4.1 million), and it's hard to imagine both of them back. The Ravens carried Domonique Foxworth a year longer than I thought they would, given his injury history, but I can't imagine they pay his $7 million base coming off another lost season.

As for pass-catchers, the Ravens are very unlikely to pick up Lee Evans' $1 million roster bonus. He gave them nothing after the trade with Buffalo and couldn't finish a catch in the AFC Championship Game that would have sent Baltimore to the Super Bowl. Green Bay faces a $2.2 million roster bonus for Donald Driver, but the Packers are loaded with young weapons at wideout. Meanwhile, the Steelers are going to have to start paying their young wide receivers, which is why league sources say the Steelers won't bring back Hines Ward and his $4 million salary. Pittsburgh, like Oakland, is still trying to get under the cap. And at tight end, as much as Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan loves tight end Chris Cooley, he is oft-injured and his $3.8 million base may be too steep, especially if Fred Davis is brought back.

On the offensive line, St. Louis' Jason Smith won't be back at his current base salary ($10 million), according to a league source, and is a candidate to be cut. San Diego is very unlikely to bring back tackle Marcus McNeill with his $10.5 million base. Arizona has Levi Brown counting $17 million against the cap, with over $8 million in base salary, which will lead to a restructured deal or him hitting the open market, too. Willie Colon ($4.5 million base) is not willing to take a pay cut to stay in Pittsburgh following another injury-marred season, and at his age, Steve Hutchinson ($6.95 million base) might not make sense for a rebuilding Vikings team.

The Raiders have difficult decisions with linebackers Aaron Curry ($5.75 million base salary) and Rolando McClain, whose off-field issues and attitude may have worn out his welcome with new GM Reggie McKenzie trying to establish a new mentality as Oakland's general manager. Kamerion Wimbley, another highly paid Raiders linebacker (due to make $11 million in 2012), is not interested in taking a pay cut to stay, league sources said. Oakland defensive lineman Tommy Kelly ($6 million base) is another potential cap target. The Raiders are likely to restructure Richard Seymour's massive deal, as well.


Aaron Kampman's injury woes and $4.6 million salary may be too steep for the Jags. Carolina loves linebacker Thomas Davis, but after yet another major injury, it's more likely he returns on a reworked contract than on his existing one.

In any given year, there are always a few shockers, or unexpected moves. But in general, if you follow the money, and play a little arm-chair Moneyball, many of the forthcoming transactions are not all that difficult to figure out. Come 2013, with the cap likely to spike dramatically with new TV money coming in and teams required to spend 90 percent of that figure in actual payroll dollars, perhaps less name players will be left on the street.

In fact, I strongly believe by 2013 or 2014 we see most teams re-investing even more heavily on their own talent to meet that 90 percent threshold, which would mean even less prime, mid-20s talent getting anywhere near the market. Those who do become available will carry significant concerns with injury, attitude, work ethic or off-field activities.

It will make even more sense to spend on those players you already know and have developed as the economics of this new CBA play out in the coming years, and the revenue streams continue to pour in.

But in the mean time, there will be a bloodletting of talent, and those purges will only increase after the combine, with some players willing to restructure during February meetings with team officials and others awaiting their chance to test the market.




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Steelers release Hines Ward

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Hines Ward, the Steelers all-time leading receiver, Super Bowl XL MVP and one of the most popular players in the team's recent history was released by the Steelers this afternoon, according to a release from the team.

"We had a conversation today with Hines Ward and informed him that we plan to release him of his contract prior to the start of the 2012 NFL calendar year," Steelers President Art Rooney II said in the release.

"Hines has been an integral part of our success since we drafted him in 1998 and we will forever be grateful for what he has helped us achieve. He has meant so much to this organization, both on and off the field, and we appreciate his efforts over the past 14 years. Hines' accomplishments are numerous, and he will always be thought of as one of the all-time great Steelers. We wish him nothing but the best."

Ward was originally drafted by the Steelers in the third round of the 1998 NFL Draft out of Georgia. He spent 14 years in Pittsburgh and became the team's all-time leader in receptions (1,000), receiving yards (12,083), receiving touchdowns (85) and 100-yard receiving games (29). Ward is the eighth player in NFL history to reach 1,000 career receptions and joined only Hall of Famer Jerry Rice as the only two players in league history to post 1,000 career catches and win multiple Super Bowls.

Ward was the MVP of Super Bowl XL after leading the Steelers to a 21-10 victory over the Seattle Seahawks. He posted a game-high 123 receiving yards on five receptions with one touchdown.

The Steelers' 2008 Walter Payton Man of the Year, Ward was named to four Pro Bowls (2002-05) and was a member of the team's 75th Season All-Time Team.

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Hope a Girl Scout cheap shots him while walking out of Steelers headquarters after cleaning out his locker.


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I actually kind of feel bad for him a little.

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The list of players I hope the Browns pick up just so we can cut them and hurt their feelings has been increased to 2.

Corey Fuller
Hines Ward

I'll never forget that his 1,000th "catch" was a 3 yard loss.


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I don't feel bad for him. This happens as teams need to move in another direction.


That said, I've always liked him and don't buy in to the cheap shot stuff. He went out there to block when he didn't have the ball, and he did.


I wish we had receivers who did that. I'd embrace that!


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My biggest gripe with him is when we beat them on a nationally televised game (forget the year) and with time still left on the clock the cameras showed him going to the locker room. When they win you always see him on the field after the game with that goofy smile and celebrating. But when he loses he didn't have enough class to congratulate the winners.

Ever since then, I have had 0 respect for him.

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That's cool. You can not like him for that, but it's not a reason to put him down and call him a cheapshot artist.


I would have been very happy had he been a member of the Browns the last 14 years.


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Maybe he can call T.O. and get into the Arena league.


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For me, I never really cared if he was a cheapshot guy or not. I just never liked him. Not really sure there was ever a reason, either, lol. Maybe because he always found a way to beat us.

Now, Polamalu's a guy that I hate because he's on the Steelers, but I'd love to have him on the Browns.


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My biggest gripe with him is when we beat them on a nationally televised game (forget the year) and with time still left on the clock the cameras showed him going to the locker room.




Thank You! I'm the only one of my friends that remembers this happening - it was glorious to see.

And Peen... I don't think he's a cheap shot artist or whatever - I've always thought him to be a loser and a jagoff since that moment.


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My biggest gripe with him is when we beat them on a nationally televised game (forget the year) and with time still left on the clock the cameras showed him going to the locker room. When they win you always see him on the field after the game with that goofy smile and celebrating. But when he loses he didn't have enough class to congratulate the winners.

Ever since then, I have had 0 respect for him.




I disagree.I've always thought it to be dishonest to congratulate someone for kicking your ass.It doesn't feel good and I hate them even more for doing it.


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I don't hate (hate is such a strong word) the guy, I just hate that smile on game days against the Browns. I promise not to miss your smile Hines.

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I assume he'll either resign with them, or get picked up by Washington...


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My biggest gripe with him is when we beat them on a nationally televised game (forget the year) and with time still left on the clock the cameras showed him going to the locker room. When they win you always see him on the field after the game with that goofy smile and celebrating. But when he loses he didn't have enough class to congratulate the winners.

Ever since then, I have had 0 respect for him.




I disagree.I've always thought it to be dishonest to congratulate someone for kicking your ass.It doesn't feel good and I hate them even more for doing it.




If that's the case, then why would he go onto the field after a game where they kick someone's ass and look to shake hands?

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Wow.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/763502...ith-source-says

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The Pittsburgh Steelers have informed defensive end Aaron Smith that he is being released, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton.

The 35-year-old Smith is entering the final year of his contract and was scheduled to make $2.109 million.




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Smith hasn't been able to stay healthy anyways, and both he and Ward are on the wrong side of 35...

Positive PR spin would be that Pitt is getting "younger" because that D is OLD in some spots...

Farrior could be next on the chopping block..


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SAN DIEGO -- As tough and nasty as any player in the NFL, whether it was putting Albert Haynesworth on his back or getting in the last shot in a tangle of large bodies, Kris Dielman found it hard to end his NFL career.

With one of his young sons babbling in the background, the San Diego Chargers' four-time Pro Bowl left guard choked up as he announced Thursday that he was retiring at age 31 because of a scary concussion that led to changes by the NFL.

"I had nine great years," said Dielman, who recalled that no one believed he'd make it past his first training camp after signing as an undrafted rookie in 2003. "It just sucks that it has to end this way, but it is."

Dielman said it was his decision to retire 4½ months after sustaining a concussion in a helmet-to-helmet collision with a New York Jets defender.

"I've got to get out when the getting out's good still," he said. "It wasn't worth what would happen if I would have kept on playing. I've got a beautiful family I want to be around. I live in a great place, so I want to enjoy it. It's been a great nine years. I had a lot of fun; a lot of memories."

Dielman was staggered by the injury early in the fourth quarter of an Oct. 23 game against the Jets, but he continued to play because the Chargers were out of offensive linemen due to other injuries. The team didn't diagnose his condition until after the game.

Dielman suffered a grand mal seizure on the flight home. The team plane was met by an ambulance, and Dielman was hospitalized overnight.

Ten days after Dielman was hurt, the NFL's injury and safety panel told game officials to watch closely for concussion symptoms in players. Officials were told that if they believed a player had sustained a concussion, they were to take appropriate steps to alert the team and get medical attention for the player.

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So why is it that the Browns were lambasted in the media ...... and harangued by every commentator and announcer about the McCoy situation ....... but this one didn't even make a blip on the radar screen?


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That, YT, is a great question.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82...ut-by-steelers-

he decisions aren't becoming any easier for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and veteran linebacker James Farrior soon might be up on the team's chopping block.


One day after the Steelers released wide receiver Hines Ward, Farrior's agent told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review he believes his client could be one of the next to go.

"It's not a done deal, but the percentages just aren't there," Ralph Cindrich, who represents Farrior, told the newspaper Thursday.

Cindrich said he has yet to have any discussions with the Steelers, and it's not known whether or not Farrior, 37, would be willing to restructure his contract or take a pay cut. Farrior, the team's defensive captain for the last eight seasons, is entering the final year of a contract that's scheduled to pay him $2.825 million in 2012, according to the Tribune-Review.

NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora reported Thursday the Steelers will cut either Farrior or Larry Foote because they can't afford to retain both linebackers.

Cindrich said Farrior wants to stay with the Steelers, who have spent the offseason maneuvering to get under the salary cap. The Steelers have restructured the contracts of offensive tackle Willie Colon, linebackers LaMarr Woodley and Lawrence Timmons, cornerback Ike Taylor and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, and they also cut cornerback Bryant McFadden and wide receiver Arnaz Battle.


As of Feb. 6, the Steelers were $22.5 million over the cap, according to NFL.com research. According to the Tribune Review, the team had cut about $34 million from the salary cap and created $23.6 million in cap space as of Feb. 15.

La Canfora also reported the Steelers plan to place a first-round tender on wide receiver Mike Wallace, perhaps the team's biggest offseason priority. Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert has said the team wouldn't re-sign any of its own free agents, including Wallace, before the start of free agency March 13.

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