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She brought up RG3 any chance she got. Even when the question wasnt about him....as stated above looks like Mary Kay has a new crush!
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So ...... because she, like almost every other local and national reporter thinks that the Browns are going to take RG3, even if they have to trade up for him ....... and she answers questions accordingly ....... that means she has a crush?
The great thing about all these opinions from the fans and media, local and national...they will have exactly "zero influence" over what the Browns do on draft day.
Holmgren, Heckert, the coaches and scouts will have the chance to judge every qb and to consider every qb option before they decide on the Browns draft strategy.
I'm comfortable with whatever the front office decides to do, even if it's contrary to my opinions. All the banter and debate, while fun and informative is meaningless when it comes to the ultimate decisions made by this front office.
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I believe that she said, as almost every major sports reporter has opined, that the Browns are likely to go after RG3.
Really??? I must have missed that in her column [/sarcasm]
I stoped reading her column about half way through.... I'm ok with having an opinion on something, but when every answer is the same "the browns will trade their 4th and 22nd pick for RG3" I just get tired of reading...
Ok, this is wierd,, me defending a Media type LOL
MKC did an decent job first time out of the blocks..
As for mention of RG3 so often,, if you take a moment to read the questions, you will see that she only mentioned him when she was answering a direct question or if somehow, it related to the question.
RG3 is on the front page of all Draft talk so it's no wonder that he's being mentioned so often. It's the nature of the beast..
Don't you think though that she's picking the questions that end up in that column?
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I believe that she said, as almost every major sports reporter has opined, that the Browns are likely to go after RG3.
Really??? I must have missed that in her column [/sarcasm]
I stoped reading her column about half way through.... I'm ok with having an opinion on something, but when every answer is the same "the browns will trade their 4th and 22nd pick for RG3" I just get tired of reading...
Ok, this is wierd,, me defending a Media type LOL
MKC did an decent job first time out of the blocks..
As for mention of RG3 so often,, if you take a moment to read the questions, you will see that she only mentioned him when she was answering a direct question or if somehow, it related to the question.
RG3 is on the front page of all Draft talk so it's no wonder that he's being mentioned so often. It's the nature of the beast..
I knew someone would state that, and yes I understand there are a lot of questions about the draft... but every answer she gave was the same... not even acknowledging another scenario...
I've never been a big fan of ask tony, so I doubt I'll like ask MK much more...
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I believe that she said, as almost every major sports reporter has opined, that the Browns are likely to go after RG3.
Really??? I must have missed that in her column [/sarcasm]
I stoped reading her column about half way through.... I'm ok with having an opinion on something, but when every answer is the same "the browns will trade their 4th and 22nd pick for RG3" I just get tired of reading...
Ok, this is wierd,, me defending a Media type LOL
MKC did an decent job first time out of the blocks..
As for mention of RG3 so often,, if you take a moment to read the questions, you will see that she only mentioned him when she was answering a direct question or if somehow, it related to the question.
RG3 is on the front page of all Draft talk so it's no wonder that he's being mentioned so often. It's the nature of the beast..
Don't you think though that she's picking the questions that end up in that column?
I'm certain of it.... How many questions do you think she got that don't involve the QB position in the discussion?
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I believe that she said, as almost every major sports reporter has opined, that the Browns are likely to go after RG3.
Really??? I must have missed that in her column [/sarcasm]
I stoped reading her column about half way through.... I'm ok with having an opinion on something, but when every answer is the same "the browns will trade their 4th and 22nd pick for RG3" I just get tired of reading...
Ok, this is wierd,, me defending a Media type LOL
MKC did an decent job first time out of the blocks..
As for mention of RG3 so often,, if you take a moment to read the questions, you will see that she only mentioned him when she was answering a direct question or if somehow, it related to the question.
RG3 is on the front page of all Draft talk so it's no wonder that he's being mentioned so often. It's the nature of the beast..
Don't you think though that she's picking the questions that end up in that column?
I'm certain of it.... How many questions do you think she got that don't involve the QB position in the discussion?
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..... that means she has a crush?
Yes, it means she has a crush.
But she is not alone in that. Many fans want RGlll and many/most reporters, draft sites, etc think we will take him even if we have to trade up to get him.
And I agree with you that the reason she mentions him, even when the question had nothing to do with him, was because she was asked if we would consider this guy or that guy with our first pick and she simply reiterated that no, we will likely shoot for RGlll.
I don't mind Mary Kay. Watched her a lot on the Browns shows on STO. Often she's the one who made the most sensible comments. The only thing I don't like about her is that she is relentless in her questioning regarding issues that have already been answered with the same answer multiple times.
She's been at this a long time covering the Browns. She's got the cred.
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I believe that she said, as almost every major sports reporter has opined, that the Browns are likely to go after RG3.
Really??? I must have missed that in her column [/sarcasm]
I stoped reading her column about half way through.... I'm ok with having an opinion on something, but when every answer is the same "the browns will trade their 4th and 22nd pick for RG3" I just get tired of reading...
Ok, this is wierd,, me defending a Media type LOL
MKC did an decent job first time out of the blocks..
As for mention of RG3 so often,, if you take a moment to read the questions, you will see that she only mentioned him when she was answering a direct question or if somehow, it related to the question.
RG3 is on the front page of all Draft talk so it's no wonder that he's being mentioned so often. It's the nature of the beast..
Don't you think though that she's picking the questions that end up in that column?
I'm certain of it.... How many questions do you think she got that don't involve the QB position in the discussion?
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lol I think she only picked questions from people that come here.  Anyway I agree she answered the questions and if people dont like the answers well thats probably because they dont agree with the answers. She sees the Browns moving up to get RGIII so every draft question will reflect that. Now if Tony was answering those qestions he would say. Ive been telling the Browns they have to move up and get RGIII but Randy Lerner doesnt listen to me. Or I told Mike they need to get a QB early this year by moving up. Anyway wasnt bad wasnt great but I dont expect an opinion peice to great anyway.
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lol I think she only picked questions from people that come here.
Anyway I agree she answered the questions and if people dont like the answers well thats probably because they dont agree with the answers.
She sees the Browns moving up to get RGIII so every draft question will reflect that.
Now if Tony was answering those qestions he would say.
Ive been telling the Browns they have to move up and get RGIII but Randy Lerner doesnt listen to me.
Or I told Mike they need to get a QB early this year by moving up.
Anyway wasnt bad wasnt great but I dont expect an opinion peice to great anyway.
No, not really bad at all for a first effort.
the Grossi comment was funny..
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Hey, Mary Kay: Hopefully 2011 was a learning season for Coach Shurmur. Give me three reasons why he should warrant the confidence of Mike Holmgren to stick around for the long term and Browns fans can look forward to the future. -- John Kusich, Hermitage, Pa.
Hey, John: Here you go: 1. He had no off-season to install his system and didn't know his personnel. 2. He wore too many hats and now has an OC in Brad Childress. 3. He'll have more playmakers this year on offense.
Read between the lines. This is no endorsement of the Browns bad head coach.
I'm thinking Schurmur is so messed up, he could keep the Packers or the Steelers out of the playoffs if he were their head coach.
I really hope he does SOMETHING to inspire confidence in his coaching abilities in the next few game opportunities.
Holmgren says nobodys going to work harder than Colt McCoy this off-season? Well Pat Schurmur Needs to work harder than Colt McCoy this off-season, because we don't need any, ( less than obsessed),part time coaching commitment, and we Certainly don't need anymore " Aw shucks, what should I do in this game situation. " types of displays.
Read between the lines?
1, He didn't know. 2. It was too hard. 3. It was the players fault.
You can do it Pat Schurmur! Go get em!
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Pat Shurmur was an incredibly inexperienced candidate for head coach. He probably would have had difficulty with a perfect off-season .... but we all know that didn't happen. Shurmur was trying to figure out how to be a head coach, how to install his system, and what his new player could, and could not do. That's a tall order for a guy who had only been a coordinator for a couple of years, and who had never been a head coach at any level.
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I do think he is the proverbial 800 pound elephant in the room. ( anexoric elephant? ) , maybe its an 800 pound gorilla.
He's the ? nobody discusses.
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Bill Belicheck used to be viewed as a failed HC.
Then something mysterious happened... He won a Super Bowl(3)...
And then suddenly he was one of the greatest coaches ever...
And now, it's been 7 years since he last won a Super Bowl, and people are questioning how good a coach he is again...
See the pattern? Tom Coughlin has basically been "fired" mid season by the Giants twice, except for the fact that each time his team went on to win the Super Bowl...
I'm not saying every coach needs to win the SB to keep his job (Except for Maybe Andy Reid...) But instant successes like Smith in ATL and Sporano's first year in Miami have clouded peoples judgement on HCs...
IMO: A Good coach needs great players to win, a great coach can get by with good players occasionally.
Pat Shurmur currently has 1 great player (J.T.) and a couple good ones (maybe) and while it sounds like I'm making excuses, I'd ask what you think anyone could do with the (offensive) talent on this team..?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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What did "Hey Tony" do that was so bad again? He spoke truth to power. He insulted the owner. He said the, owner was irrelevant, but I thought that was exactly what the owner was trying to put out there by making Holmgren the president in charge of all team activities that usually would include the owner, like at rules committee meetings and league meetings representing the teams interests.
So Hey Mary K, where can I read what Tony is going to say about the Browns in the future, or is he completely out of the loop.
Hey! we all can start a new thread on the coach, this is the Hey Mary K, or is it Kaye.
This is gonna be as hard to get used to as Ben Gay running back.
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Read between the lines.
Why? the only reason to read between the lines is if you basically don't agree with her take.. I happen to think she's correct..
First year HC, First time trying to run an off season program when he needs to install a new offense, and then have it be non existent, lacking some talent.
yeah,, it's all Shumur.. 
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
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I do think he is the proverbial 800 pound elephant in the room. ( anexoric elephant? ) , maybe its an 800 pound gorilla.
He's the ? nobody discusses.
I believe there is a fire Shurmur thread on these boards somewhere? Problably not in this thread though thus the elephant is in another room.
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
Just like this guy from ESPN? and he didnt even say anything mean. Just a major misunderstanding Link
ESPN Fires ". In The Armor" Scribe
ESPN has acted swiftly and definitively to the outrage of its own creation. The headline writer? Gone. The anchor (Max Bretos) with a similar slip of the tongue? Suspended. Thirty days. The radio guy who made the same mistake? Someone else's problem—he's not an ESPN employee. Phew.
If your in the public spotlight and a reporter you better be aware of what you write. End of Story for Tony and rightfully so IMHO.
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
Lots of folks feel as you do.. He wasn't actually run out of town on a rail. He's still got a job, still working, grabbing the paycheck. he's not been fired. Just reassigned.
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
Lots of folks feel as you do.. He wasn't actually run out of town on a rail. He's still got a job, still working, grabbing the paycheck. he's not been fired. Just reassigned.
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
Lots of folks feel as you do.. He wasn't actually run out of town on a rail. He's still got a job, still working, grabbing the paycheck. he's not been fired. Just reassigned.
Reassigned to what?
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What did "Hey Tony" do that was so bad again? He spoke truth to power. He insulted the owner. He said the, owner was irrelevant, but I thought that was exactly what the owner was trying to put out there by making Holmgren the president in charge of all team activities that usually would include the owner, like at rules committee meetings and league meetings representing the teams interests.
Tony also used the word "pathetic". Amazing how leaving that little tidbit out can make a post sound so much more convincing.
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As a beat reporter, you just can't do that. Tony knows better, hence the reason he deleted that tweet almost immediately.
I think the PD did the right thing, the guy did not deserve to lose his job, but I think he deserved to lose the privledge to cover the team.
I know we all make fun of MKC, but I honestly believe she will do fine with just reporting Browns news, which is all you should get from beat reporters.
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sperg...I can't disagree with your comments above...I too believe Mary K will do a fine job and may very well do a better job of reporting on the Browns.
Concerning Grossi...he still has a job with the PD...it's just a different job, now.
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
Lots of folks feel as you do.. He wasn't actually run out of town on a rail. He's still got a job, still working, grabbing the paycheck. he's not been fired. Just reassigned.
Reassigned to what?
I'm not actually sure, but it was reported numerous times that he's still at the PD and has been reassigned.. to what, I'm not sure. Last time this happened, he was shifted to cover the NFL as a whole. This time, I don't know.
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What did "Hey Tony" do that was so bad again? He spoke truth to power.
Whose truth? that's the problem. He spoke his mind,, That's what he thought. I personally think he's a fool for saying the things he said, they simply aren't accurate at all.
But what it showed was a bias. When you are a reporter (not a columnist) you have to report as unbiased as possible.
Allowing Personal feelings to enter the picture when reporting the "facts" just isn't the right way to do things.
His credibility went out the window. How can you be sure that anything he writes about the Browns isn't tainted by his own beliefs? I guess you wouldn't care if you agree with him, but what if you don't. What if all you want is the facts so that you can make up your own mind..
Secondly, what made Tony come to those conclusions about Lerner? What exactly did Lerner do to earn that kinda garbage talk?
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I don't agree with Tony's take on Lerner but I don't think he deserved to be run out on a rail either.
Lots of folks feel as you do.. He wasn't actually run out of town on a rail. He's still got a job, still working, grabbing the paycheck. he's not been fired. Just reassigned.
Reassigned to what?
I think that the announcement said general NFL. He'll cover league business, compile wire reports, maybe write a "scouting report" on upcoming opponents, other fun crap like that most likely.
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I never understood why he stayed on the beat so long, don't most people do that for a little bit, then move on to something where they can offer opinions and insight?
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I think that Terry Pluto went that route, but I'm not 100% sure.
I would think that being a beat reporter could be quite a badge of honor, as long as you can do it. (especially with the Hall of Fame vote included)
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