Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#663055 02/21/12 12:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Rookie
OP Offline
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
OHNOOOOOOOOES!


Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Rookie
OP Offline
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
oops heres part of the article
The Tim Tebow debate has raged into the off-season, and by now we know the usual detractors: guys like Terrell Suggs, Nick Barnett, Shawne Merriman, Brady Quinn ...

Wait. What?

That's right, in a thoroughly reported feature by Yahoo! Sports NFL writer Michael Silver in the March issue of GQ, one of the Tebow critics is actually fellow Denver Broncos quarterback Brady Quinn.

And it's not just one subtle jab, either. Early in his piece, Silver gets Quinn talking about how Tebow got promoted to starter:

Early in the season, there was a game when Kyle [Orton] got hurt and the coaches were calling for me to go in, but Kyle got up and finished the game out. So I was the second-string guy. Then, a few weeks later, they decided to put Tim in. I felt like the fans had a lot to do with that. Just ’cause they were chanting his name. There was a big calling for him. No, I didn't have any billboards. That would have been nice


Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Legend
Online
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Wow ..... what a whiner.

I wonder just how much attention (or how little) he gets when he hits the open market.

Frankly, I hope that Miami, Minnesota, or the Deadskins find him irresistible and sign him to be their new starter. Yeah ...... I know ....... but it would be nice .......


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Rookie
OP Offline
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Maybe he'll get a billboard promoting Summers Eve D-Bags

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
As my co-worker said (in his best John Gruden typing voice) "You've got to at least keep your comments in bounds."

Why in the world is BQ being interviewed by anyone?

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Not saying he's right or wrong.. But damn,,, I really thought Quinn was a classier guy than that.... Guess not.. I guess he thinks it's ok to throw his teammate under a bus...

But then, if Fox wants two new QB's to compete next year, I think the writing is probably on the wall for either Tebow or Quinn or perhaps both.. We'll see.


#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Rookie
OP Offline
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
yea kinda suprised he went that route too

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Quote:

Early in the season, there was a game when Kyle [Orton] got hurt and the coaches were calling for me to go in, but Kyle got up and finished the game out. So I was the second-string guy. Then, a few weeks later, they decided to put Tim in. I felt like the fans had a lot to do with that. Just ’cause they were chanting his name. There was a big calling for him. No, I didn't have any billboards. That would have been nice.




"Now I'm done."

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825
A
Legend
Offline
Legend
A
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825
Wow. He throws the current starting qb under the bus.

He blames the fans. (that will endear them to you brady)

He claims tebow, in essence, looks for cameras to pray.

He blames the broncos success on the qb "tiring out the d line and the d-backs".

How long has he been in the league? Why isn't he a starter?

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Doesn't that sound a whole lot like sour grapes? Or am I reading into this.


#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Rookie
OP Offline
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 44
Didnt someone go after him in our locker room once??

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,988
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,988
Quote:

Maybe he'll get a billboard promoting Summers Eve D-Bags







Joe Thomas #73
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,620
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,620
Quote:

Maybe he'll get a billboard promoting Summers Eve D-Bags




Best post I've read in a long time

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Legend
Online
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Quote:

Didnt someone go after him in our locker room once??




It was rumored that Shaun Smith was the guy who punched Quinn in the face in the locker room.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Quote:

Didnt someone go after him in our locker room once??




There was an altercation reported, but damn, that was soooo long ago, I just don't remember what it was about.. and yeah, I think it did have something to do with him..


#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825
A
Legend
Offline
Legend
A
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825
Quote:



and yeah, I think it did have something to do with him..




Ya think? Geez, captain obvious strikes again! I would've thought quinn got punched in the face because Dawson said something that smith didn't like.


Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,151
K
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
K
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,151
i find this the most interesting because this kinda crap happened FOR him here in Cleveland...

Quinn may have never gotten a shot had the fans in Cleveland been all about getting him in cuz he was our 1st round Golden Boy...Karma bit him in his hind parts here and hes griping about it.

The exact thing happened FOR Tebow that happened FOR you. Cept he got his team to the playoffs...regardless of how he got them there or whatever...he got em there AND won a playoff game. Stop being a brat.


"It has to start somewhere
It has to start somehow
What better place than here?
What better time than now?"
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
D
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
D
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
I could care less about Quinn...he was a major bust for us and can go to hell

What I'd like to know though is if anyone knows what kind of pick we get for his trade...all it says is "cond. pick"...somewhere it was worded as "as high as a 3rd and no lower than 6th", but I'm starting to fear we will get no pick at all...in all mocks around the web, it's the Eagles who have the Broncos 6th rounder from another trade (LB Mays), but that trade came after Quinn...so...do we get a 5th? or nothing at all? I can't believe there still isn't an exact draft order out there (minus comp picks)...anyone?


#gmstrong

"Players come along at different points in time" - Ray Farmer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,850
N
Legend
Offline
Legend
N
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,850
anyone else smell the irony that he blames/blasts fan pressure on the ousting of the starting QB for the fan-favorite?


#gmstrong
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Brady Quinn just became my favorite scrub player.

Nothing he said wasn't true but probably not the brightest idea to speak about it.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Legend
Online
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
I would have to guess that our conditional pick will be a 7th at best, given that Quinn hasn't throw a single pass for the Broncos.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660
Quote:


Maybe he'll get a billboard promoting Summers Eve D-Bags




BQ Manpons


[Linked Image]

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Quote:

Browns (conditional between third and sixth round)


Traded Brady Quinn to Broncos for rights to Peyton Hillis, 2011 sixth round pick (#168-Demarcus Love), 2012 conditional pick (between third and sixth round conditional on Quinn's playing time) (?-?) on 2010-03-14



Unconfirmed, but Quinn didn't play, so we're suspecting pick will be sixth round.





http://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Years/2012.htm

Demarcus Love went to the Vikings.. must be a typo

Last edited by Damanshot; 02/21/12 06:12 PM.

#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
D
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
D
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
Quote:

Demarcus Love went to the Vikings.. must be a typo




It's not...he's the player that got selected with that particular pick..but we traded that pick to go get Pinkston

If what that site says is true, then we should get the Broncos 5th since they traded their 6th to Philly and our pick was conditional anyway...right? or maybe we get the 6th and Philly the 5th?


#gmstrong

"Players come along at different points in time" - Ray Farmer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Quote:

Quote:

Demarcus Love went to the Vikings.. must be a typo




It's not...he's the player that got selected with that particular pick..but we traded that pick to go get Pinkston

If what that site says is true, then we should get the Broncos 5th since they traded their 6th to Philly and our pick was conditional anyway...right? or maybe we get the 6th and Philly the 5th? [/quote

Ahh,, Ok on the pinkston thing. Guess I didn't pay attention to that.

Quote:


183 6-24 Broncos Eagles



Traded Joe Mays to Broncos for J.J. Arrington, 2012 conditional sixth round pick (if Arrington does not make 53-man roster) (?-?) on 2010-07-30






So this is what you were talking about right?


#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,426
R
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
R
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,426
Looks like Brady's backpedaling on his comments.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...rate-portrayal/
Quote:

“The comments attributed to me in a recent magazine article are in NO WAY reflective of my opinion of Tim and the Broncos,” Quinn wrote. “Tim deserves a lot of credit for our success and I’m happy for him and what he accomplished. Most importantly, he is a great teammate.

“That interview was conducted three months ago, and the resulting story was a completely inaccurate portrayal of my comments. I have addressed my disappointment with the writer and have reached out to Tim to clear this up. I apologize to anyone who feels I was trying to take anything away from our team’s or Tim’s success this season.”



Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577
Quote:

I could care less about Quinn...he was a major bust for us and can go to hell

What I'd like to know though is if anyone knows what kind of pick we get for his trade...all it says is "cond. pick"...somewhere it was worded as "as high as a 3rd and no lower than 6th", but I'm starting to fear we will get no pick at all...in all mocks around the web, it's the Eagles who have the Broncos 6th rounder from another trade (LB Mays), but that trade came after Quinn...so...do we get a 5th? or nothing at all? I can't believe there still isn't an exact draft order out there (minus comp picks)...anyone?





http://www.draftinsiders.com/node/35

6th Round
Cleveland from Denver (QB Brady Quinn)


SaintDawg™

Football, baseball, basketball, wine, women, walleye
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,338
L
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
L
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,338
Hey Refs, I seen this apology from Quinn. It might be written by a blog columnist but has the apology. Maybe a better one will come up so if you read and want to remove be my guest. I just came across it.

..
Quinn apology
Brady Quinn apologizes for Tebow remarks, claims an ‘inaccurate portrayal’

By Doug Farrar | Shutdown Corner – 4 hours ago.
Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn horse around during the 2011 preseason. (AP)Denver Broncos backup quarterback Brady Quinn must have known that his comments about Tim Tebow would go over like a lead balloon when he spoke to Yahoo! Sports' own Mike Silver about the man who helped get the Broncos to the playoffs, and became a national phenomenon in the process.

Silver's excellent article, written for GQ Magazine, explored the Tebow trend through the quotes of many involved -- coaches, front office personnel, teammates and opponents. Some comments (mostly from the opponents) were fairly inflammatory, but the quotes from Quinn were especially odd.


Early in the season, there was a game when Kyle [Orton] got hurt and the coaches were calling for me to go in, but Kyle got up and finished the game out. So I was the second-string guy. Then, a few weeks later, they decided to put Tim in. I felt like the fans had a lot to do with that. Just 'cause they were chanting his name. There was a big calling for him. No, I didn't have any billboards. That would have been nice.

We've had a lot of, I guess, luck, to put it simply.

The real zinger from Quinn had to do with Tebow's public displays of faith, which do get on the nerves of some, but this was a bit much:


If you look at it as a whole, there's a lot of things that just don't seem very humble to me. When I get that opportunity, I'll continue to lead not necessarily by trying to get in front of the camera and praying but by praying with my teammates, you know?

Well, Quinn has had that opportunity. Like Tebow, he's a first-round draft pick. Unlike Tebow, he's failed to turn that status into anything resembling a meaningful professional career. In the end, this comes off as sour grapes from a guy who couldn't beat out Tebow or Kyle Orton for the starting job.

Did the Broncos bow to the billboards when making Tebow their starter? Perhaps. But had Tebow failed miserably, and not displayed a unique ability to come up big when the situation called for it despite his frequently unimpressive stats, there's little doubt that the Broncos would have made a switch.

In any event (and one would assume after getting a fair amount of heat for his comments), Quinn sent an apology through his Twitter account:


The comments attributed to me in a recent magazine article are in NO WAY reflective of my opinion of Tim and the Broncos. Tim deserves a lot of credit for our success and I'm happy for him and what he accomplished. Most importantly, he is a great teammate. That interview was conducted three months ago, and the resulting story was a completely inaccurate portrayal of my comments. I have addressed my disappointment with the writer and have reached out to Tim to clear this up. I apologize to anyone who feels I was trying to take anything away from our Team's or Tim's success this season.

I was cool with the apology -- Quinn doesn't have a history of jerkiness -- until he claimed misrepresentation. While it's possible that some stuff was left on the floor, there's enough of what was used to question how misrepresented Quinn was, unless he was blatantly misquoted. And knowing Silver as I do, I doubt very much that this was a hatchet job -- it's not his style.

Update: I talked to Silver a couple hours after this post was first put up. He told me that he still had the audio of the December, 2011 interview, everything is accurate, and he sent a copy of the audio to Quinn, just to be a straight-up guy. Again, that's how Mike does things.

In any case, this adds to an offseason that will most certainly be filled with ancillary drama for the Broncos. As John Elway and John Fox endeavor to re-work Tebow's mechanics at the same time they meet him in the middle from a schematic perspective for the future of the team, you can bet there will be all kinds of talk about this hot-button player -- and the inevitable less-successful co-stars who reach for a piece of the spotlight.


"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,511
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,511
Quote:

Wow. He throws the current starting qb under the bus.

He blames the fans. (that will endear them to you brady)

He claims tebow, in essence, looks for cameras to pray.

He blames the broncos success on the qb "tiring out the d line and the d-backs".

How long has he been in the league? Why isn't he a starter?




Couldn't have summed it up better... just crazy that he would say all that publicly... sounds like a lot of sour grapes.


<><

#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
O
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
O
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
Quote:

I could care less about Quinn...he was a major bust for us and can go to hell


He was beaten out by a guy that couldn't complete 48% of his passes and who was also adored far more than he was. I'm pretty sure Quinn is there already.


***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Legend
Online
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
He was beaten out by Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson, Kyle Orton, and Tim Tebow.

He'll be a free agent ...... and he probably won't be any team's "big signing".


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,826
M
mac Offline
Legend
Offline
Legend
M
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,826
Silver says Quinn’s comments were taped


February 22, 2012

Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports has a knack for getting people to say interesting things on the record. As a result, Mike Silver often is accused of misquoting people when the interesting things they say get other people talking.

As a result, Silver makes sure that people actually said the things he says they said.

Regarding the claim by Broncos quarterback Brady Quinn that his comments questioning the humility of Tim Tebow and the decision to give him the starting job after Kyle Orton was benched reflect a “completely inaccurate portrayal” of Quinn’s remarks, it’s important to note that Quinn never specifically said that he didn’t say what Silver says Quinn said.

That’s because Quinn said what he said.

“The interview was taped,” Silver told PFT on Tuesday night via email. “Brady has a copy of the audio file. I agree that his tone was not bitter and that the entirety of the (50-minute interview) presented a balanced perspective toward Tebow.”

That’s charitable of Silver, even though it could support an argument that Quinn’s comments were “taken out of context.” But that wouldn’t be accurate. As we’ve explained in the past, taking words out of context means isolating a quote in a way that, absent the full content, alters its meaning. Here, the words stand alone. And while Quinn said plenty of good things about Tebow, too, an actual or perceived insult tends to have a bigger impact.

web page


FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL

Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,877
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,877
This much to do about nothing.

Nothing he said is untrue. Tebow himself admits he does this in front of the cameras to promote his faith. I'm sure it rubs some in the locker room the wrong way.

Many on here have speculated just how good a QB Tebow actually is or is not.

If this was a backup on any other team talking about any other starter would anybody waste more than 10 seconds discussing it?

Just another way for ESPN to fill air time for a day to two with "Tebow Talk".


"People who drink light 'beer' don't like the taste of beer; they just like to pee a lot."
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Quinn has worries, I just don't think this article is his biggest worry.

Quote:

John Fox wants two new quarterbacks to compete with Tim Tebow


The decision makers in Denver have declared repeatedly that Tim Tebow will enter training camp as the Broncos’ No. 1 quarterback, but they want to have someone who can compete with him. Now Broncos coach John Fox has said he doesn’t just want one quarterback to compete with Tebow, but two.

Fox told Mike Klis of the Denver Post that he expects two new quarterbacks on the roster this year.

“Numbers wise that’s accurate,” Fox said of the Broncos acquiring two quarterbacks. “Who, what, where, when, what market — it’s still way too early how we get those quarterbacks.”




web page


#GMSTRONG
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
1
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
1
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Cant wait until we have something meaningful to talk about!

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577
March 13. Geeeeez.. 20 days.


SaintDawg™

Football, baseball, basketball, wine, women, walleye
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,070
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,070
Was that in the weight room or am I confused once again? Thought it got physical. . . .

Can't imagine this opinion counts for a bunch. Not a starter, after all.


"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,587
B
Legend
Offline
Legend
B
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,587
It's easy for things to be taken out of context. A comment made by Quinn that really wasn't intended as a rip can be read that way, especially by a Tebow fan.

I think they have cleared the air, so I'd give Quinn a break on this one.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

GM Strong




[Linked Image]
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,879
Quote:

It's easy for things to be taken out of context. A comment made by Quinn that really wasn't intended as a rip can be read that way, especially by a Tebow fan.

I think they have cleared the air, so I'd give Quinn a break on this one.




He probably meant every word of it,, and he's certainly free to do so. My only comment on Quinn is that I'm disappointed in him..I thought he was classier than to speak out like that about a teammate.. Apparently I was wrong.


#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Page 1 of 2 1 2
DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Quinn debunks year of Tebow

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5