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But it WOULD sell some tickets to the show I bet ... and could be fun to look at ... even if it was disturbingly fun like DA's 10-6 season ... 
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I wish folks would just leave my 22nd selection out of any trade scenario.
Why's that???
I got news for ya'...YOU think we can sit at 4 and get Griffin if we want em'...Ain't happenin'...
Obviously FA has a major bearing on all of this just like any other year...
If the Skins and Miami go into this draft with zero QB moves in FA...I bout' guarantee u we spend the 22 to get up to 2 to grab Griffin...IF WE WANT HIM...
Any Mock u do...ANY...That has us going to #2 for Griffin...U would be wise to include 22 in the trade...If u don't...U gonna be left in the dark...
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But don't forget that we could offer the #4 and the #37 and it's STILL better than Washington's #6 and #39 ...
Not only by value of picks ... but because the #4 pick means Luck and Griffin will be gone, but St. Louis will be GUARANTEED to STILL get Kalil OR Blackmon (if not both).
If they fall to 6 the best guy on the board could be Richardson ... and with Steven jackson already on board that might mean they take .... who? Reach for Reiff? Take a risk on Coples?
The #4 represents a spot where they can still take a guy that they would conceivably take at #2 anyways ... so I wouldn't be so quick to offer the #22 unless I am willing to bet my JOB on the guy if I am H or H ...
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Put the best engine,, maybe a Chevy or Ford Crate motor,, 600 HP at the Crank,,, in a crapbox that has a rusty frame,,, and what you have is a VERY fast rust bucket that probably won't finish the quarter mile with out the driver falling through the floor....
Maybe this is where our analogy parts ways then.. I don't view our two first round OL with younger support guys, our two second round WRs with Josh Cribbs and Norwood, our solid TEs and our 2nd round RB with Hillis as a crap box... are they a new Ferrari? Not exactly.. but in a car analogy, they aren't a rusted out crap box either...
The other analogy you could make is that if the players are the car and the QB is the engine.. then the coach is the driver with the key...  and as anybody who watches racing can tell you, the fastest car doesn't always win.
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Put the best engine,, maybe a Chevy or Ford Crate motor,, 600 HP at the Crank,,, in a crapbox that has a rusty frame,,, and what you have is a VERY fast rust bucket that probably won't finish the quarter mile with out the driver falling through the floor....
Maybe this is where our analogy parts ways then.. I don't view our two first round OL with younger support guys, our two second round WRs with Josh Cribbs and Norwood, our solid TEs and our 2nd round RB with Hillis as a crap box... are they a new Ferrari? Not exactly.. but in a car analogy, they aren't a rusted out crap box either...
The other analogy you could make is that if the players are the car and the QB is the engine.. then the coach is the driver with the key... and as anybody who watches racing can tell you, the fastest car doesn't always win.
I don't know about that. I saw an awful lot of rusted out crap box last season. I'm all for shopping for tires and a new starter.
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Yeah, but if your engine is serviceable, and you've got flat tires, a leaky tank, a slipping transmission, no fenders and your airbags deployed 7 months ago ... why replace the engine first? 
The problem for some with that thinking is that they don't think the engine is serviceable. Theres the rub
Do you want an engine firing on 4 cylinders that can barely keep up with the pace car, or a v8 that can win the race? 
Put the best engine,, maybe a Chevy or Ford Crate motor,, 600 HP at the Crank,,, in a crapbox that has a rusty frame,,, and what you have is a VERY fast rust bucket that probably won't finish the quarter mile with out the driver falling through the floor....
Chicken or the egg?
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Thanks for that explanation, because I'm done. Like beating a dead horse, those facts are lost to some and the conversation is going nowhere, but once again thanks. 
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Obviously you've never tried sticking hand up a fraulein's skirt,
the act and the word is verboten.
Indecision may,or maynot,be my problem
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Obviously you've never tried sticking hand up a fraulein's skirt,
the act and the word is verboten.
Oh! Good grief.
Guess I better brush up on my German. 
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Yeah, but if your engine is serviceable, and you've got flat tires, a leaky tank, a slipping transmission, no fenders and your airbags deployed 7 months ago ... why replace the engine first?
The problem for some with that thinking is that they don't think the engine is serviceable. Theres the rub
Do you want an engine firing on 4 cylinders that can barely keep up with the pace car, or a v8 that can win the race?
Put the best engine,, maybe a Chevy or Ford Crate motor,, 600 HP at the Crank,,, in a crapbox that has a rusty frame,,, and what you have is a VERY fast rust bucket that probably won't finish the quarter mile with out the driver falling through the floor....
Chicken or the egg?
Not really. You can still roll the car without an engine.. Try doing anyting with an engine and no car to put it in.
Hey,,, are we tired of the Car Analogies yet? 
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Since these "draft experts" are almost universally wrong. I am going to say that the Browns do not trade up to #2, nor do we take Griffin (unless he falls to 4 AND Big Shurm/Holmgren think he can run THEIR WCO).
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jc What's up with all this car talk? Are cars really analogous to modern football strategy? Pretty soon we'll be hearing about how complex world economies can be accurately explained by '10 guys in a bar.....' Oh, too late
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