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Round 1.

1. Colts - Andrew Luck QB Stanford
2. Redkins- Robert Griffin III QB Baylor (Rams gain 2013 1st and 3rd, 2012 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th)
3. Vikings - Matt Kalil OT USC
4. Browns- Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M (I believe he is our target and it now looks like that target won;t make it out of the top 10, if we want him probably have to take him here)

5. Bucs- Maurice Claiborne CB LSU
6. Rams - Justin Blackmon WR OKST
7. Jags- Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina
8. Miami - Donatari Poe DT Memphis

9. Carolina - Michael Brockers DT LSU
10. Bills- Quinton Coples DE UNC
11. Chiefs- Trent Richardson RB Alabama
12. Seattle - Riley Reiff OT Iowa

13. Arizona - Jonathon Martin OT Stanford
14. Cowboys - Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
15. Eagles - Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
16. Jets - Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama

17. Bengals - Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama
18. Chargers- Cordy Glenn OT Georgia
19. Bears - Kenny Wright WR Baylor
20. Titans - Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois

21. Bengals - David Decastro OG Stanford
22. Eagles - Luke Kuechly ILB BC *Browns receive Eagles two 2nd round picks)
23. Lions - Mike Adams OT Ohio St.
24. Steelers -Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State

25. Broncos - Fletcher Cox DT Miss. St.
26. Texans - Reuben Randle WR LSU
27. Patriots - Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
28. Packers - Devon Still DT Penn St.

29. Ravens - Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama
30. 49ers- Stephen Hill WR Georgia Tech
31. Patriots - Nick Perry DE/OLB USC
32. Giants - Andre Branch DE Clemson

Round 2.
33. Rams - Zebrie Sanders OT Florida State
34. Colts - Alameda Ta'amu NT Washington
35. Vikings - Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina
36. Bucs - Lamar Miller RB Miami

37. Browns - Vinny Curry DE Marshall (fits Heckerts idea of a DE another Sheard)
38. Jags - Coby Fleener TE Stanford
39. Rams - Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina
40. Panthers - Zach Brown OLB UNC

41. Buffalo - Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State
42. Dolphins- Bobbie Massie OT Miss.
43. Seahawks - Brandon Weeden QB OKST
44. Chiefs- Doug Martin RB Boise State

45. Cowboys - Mark Barron SS Alabama
46. Browns from Phily- Mohamad Sanu WR Rutgers (he doesnt fit every offense but he certainly fits here)
47. Jets - Brandon Washington OG Miami
48. Patriots - Joe Adams WR Arkansas

49. Chargers - Ronnell Lewis OLB Oklahoma
50. Bears - Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
51. Browns from Phily - Mitchell Schwartz OT Cal (really like this kid, he may not end up going until the 4th but he is gonna stud out for someone)
52. Titans - LB Lavonte David Nebraska

53. Bengals- David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
54. Lions - Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
55. Falcons Jayron Hosely CB VT
56. Steelers - Josh Norman CB Costal Carolina

57. Broncos - Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
58. Texans - Jonathan Massaquoi DE/OLB Troy
59. Saints - Brandon Brooks OG Miami (Ohio)
60. Packers - Bruce Irvin LB West Virginia

61. Ravens- Peter Konz C Wisconsin
62. 49ers - Kirk Cousins QB Michigan St.
63. Giants - Ladarius Green TE La.-Lafayette
64. Patriots - Chris Givens WR Wake Forest

Round 3

65. Colts - Dwight Jones WR UNC
66. Rams - Orson Charles TE Georgia
67. Vikings - Jaye Howard DE Florida
68. Browns - Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M (will be one of the biggest steals on draft day)

69. Bucs - Brandon Thompson DT Clemson
70. Rams - S Markelle Martin OKST
71. Jags - Bobby Wagner LB Utah St.
72. Bills - Jared Crick DE Nebraska

73. Phins - Cam Johnson DE Virginia
74. Bears - Chris Polk RB Washington
75. Chiefs - Nick Foles QB Arizona
76. Seahawks - Chris Rainey RB/WR Florida

77. Eagles - Kevin Zeiter OG Wisconsin
78. Jets - LaMichael James RB Oregon
79. Raiders - Forefeited
80. Chargers - Marvin Jones WR Cal.

81. Bears - Marcus Forston DT Miami
82. Cards - Billy Winn DE Boise ST.
83. Cowboys - Jake Bequette DE/OLB Arkansas
84. Titans - Nick Toon WR Wisconsin

85. Bengals - George Iloka FS Boise State
86. Falcons - Ben Jones C Georgia
87. Lions - Dwight Bentley CB La.-Lafayette
88. Steelers - Kendall Reyes DE UConn

89. Broncos - Tommy Streeter WR Miami
90. Texans - Josh Chapman NT Bama
91. Saints - Juron Criner WR Arizona
92. Packers Mike Brewster C Ohio St.

93. 49ers - Amini Silatou OG Midwestern State
94. Pats - Corey Fuller WR Texas A&M
95. Giants - Brian Quick WR Appalachian State

Browns Only
4a. Robert Turbin RB Utah State
4b. Brian Broyles WR Okla.
Package 5th and 6th to get back in the 4th
4c. Josh Kaddu OLB Oregon

Sup picks we add speed, speed and more speed.

Wow trading out of 22 for 2 2nd rounders, would be a big mistake in my mind.
Sanu I like ehh, halfway.

Only 1/3 of the first round being defensive front 7 players?
Anythings possible, I remember one year there was a run on one position in the mid to late 1st round, it was either offensive linemen or Wr's I can't remember which.

I just can't figure taking a project QB at #4 overall, because he is a project, unless you think he can come in and start day 1?

I like the trade with the Eagles though, 3 2nds sounds nice... Unless it's 2009...

I have to say I agree with you more than just about anybody here as it pertains to football.

But you're going to have to explain Richardson to Seattle for me.

There are others but that one stands out like a sore thumb.

Marshawn Lynch is going to be signed to a very healthy deal pretty shortly. He's beloved by the team and the city. He's 25. And if they don't come to a 6 or 7 year deal like I expect then he's going to be franchised for sure.

Why in the world would they be drafting RB?

I'd almost guarantee they're drafting a pass rusher in that slot.

I would assume that means they do not resign Lynch...

I messed up when dropping them in. Richardson to the Chiefs, they need a heavy workload back and Seatle needs a RT. Thanks Held I proofed this thing but still missed that.

I see Tannehill as a better version of Locker with better accuracy. I think he knows the offense very well but Holmgren likes to sit his QBs for a year so we may see another year of Colt while Tannehill is groomed in film study and cleans up his mechanics.

personally, I would play him and let him learn from under center. experience is what he needs.

No worries!

Thanks for the work putting this on the board!

I posted it elsewhere but I really do believe that the organization realizes how slow we are comparatively to other teams.

I fully expect us to get much faster at all levels for big ticket FA and draft acquisitions.

That's why I like Bruce Irvin and Lavonte David among others.

Ryan (not Brian) Broyles is one exception. I see him as the second coming of Derek Mason and man would I love to have that.

Please please pretty please!

I think Broyles would be the best player the Browns could add compared with current value. Lavonte David is #2 to him.

I agree.

I think we end up with Tannehill at 4 unless we drop a couple spots and draft him at 6 or close.

btw...saw Tannehill throwing it around with WRs before the drills.

He looks like a stud tossing it around.

Combine that with some serious athleticism and experience under Sherman in the WCO....

Holmgren is going to figure out how to sell this but he will....bank it.

I think Sanu's crispness in and out of his breaks makes up for in line speed. My chin dropped watching him at the combines. Reminded me of Jerry Rice to be honest.

It's funny but I thought this was some of the slowest looking receivers running the drills at the combines that I have seen, just really choppy. Even Blackmon didnt impress the way i was expecting.

The back end corners and linebackers appear to be the ones with the real speed in this draft.

I can't wait for the Dalton/Green comparison's if we come away with a QB/WR combo out of this draft...

How about Blackmon at 4, Wright at 22, and Tannehill at 37?

Watch that youtube video of Tannehill against northwestern in the Meinike care care bowl. The throws that kid made and were more often than not dropped were amazing and every single route is a play we run. We really get to see how he would look in this offense.

do you have a link for the game?

a. I really hope we find our speed at WR in free agency as a top flight guy.
b. Maybe I need to look at Sanu more closely. Both you and peen are all over him.

Because I literally dedicated about an hour to watching RG3, then I watch this.

Seriously people need to just watch these two prospects back to back.

The footwork difference between the two is absurd.

Is RG3 the better athlete? Yep!

Is Tannehill the better QB and NFL prospect Year 1 & 2. Yep! And it's not close.

If you gave me the choice between the two I'd take Tannehill for 20 teams and RG3 for the other 12 teams.

If I had a locked in guy, top guy, under contract, for the next two years then yes I might gamble and see what I could make with RG3.

But for the Browns...

Tannehill every day.

Couple that with experience in the WCO, no brainer.

He's going to be our pick at 4. The front office will have to sell it after it happens.

By the way 5:51 and 6:11 are why he does need some work. It wasn't all good but comparing the footwork between the two it's not close.

I'm not impressed by Tannehill. I think that he is a really average type QB.

I dunno ..... we'll see how he does and how RG3 does, because both guys are going to go pretty high in this draft. I just hope that Tannehill goes somewhere other than Cleveland.

If I thought the Eagles were interested in Blackmon like I've read occasionally, and I knew Dallas wouldn't take him at 13, I'd trade with Philly back to 14 and Grab Tannehill there...

Maybe we get Desean Jackson out of it? I'd rather a 1st next year and their 2 2nds this...

We'd be like the Reverse-Lions, Not Drafting (one of) the Top WRs in consecutive years...

If given the option would you take Tannehill (as the browns) over Luck?

Oddly I've expressed the opinion that'd I'd trade the farm for Luck, but I hadn't really evaluated his game well enough to make that statement. Hype is easier.

Tannehill would be a TERRIBLE reach at 4. You just don't take a project player like that so high. If we're going to go that route, it would be a whole lot smarter to take Claiborne at 4 and move up from #22 to get Tannehill if we have to. Even then, I'm not sure I'm all that crazy about getting him. Big risk, IMO. Almost too big of a risk to pick him in the first at all.

just looking at that video,, but that wasn't all that impressive.... what am i missing

I wouldnt take him at 4. He will probably go in the early teens. I think his stock will rise after his pro day, but doubtful he's top 10. Of course a lot of QB speculation will depend on what happens in FA.

J/K

If we take Tannyhill at # 4, it will set this orginization back another 10 years, becuase I guarentee we will be right back here to the same spot next year, talking about which QB to take at # 1 pick.


There is NO way unders gods green earth Holgram takes Tannyhill at # 4...Zero....Ono......If Tannyhill is Heckerts pick (Which he isnt) than Heckert will either trade back into spots 15-25 to pick him or he will be FIRED AFTER DAY ONE OF THE NFL DRAFT....

Love this mock, but Sanu past pick #36 of the Bucs won't happen...TB hired half the Rutgers staff and they love Sanu and need another WR

That's why I hope we trade that #22 pick with NE and stay in the late 1st, nab Sanu there and Curry at #37...I'd be very happy if we get at least 1 of them as I have a very good feeling on them but realistically we won't get both even if Heckert really likes them too

I like Schwartz too but that might be a bit too high for a RT only...I'm also not that sure if he can start day 1, pushing him further down...I would have selceted OLB David there (or RB Wilson as BPA) and Schwartz in the 3rd, although I also like C.Judie, but I think there's a chance that he'll drop into the 4th because of his injuries...RBs in the 4th that I like include Turbin, Pierce and I'm very high on C.Gray...let's make this an Aggie draft...Tannehill at 4, Judie and Gray with the two 4ths and CB Frederick with a late comp pick....I like them all

Good job though...the 32 GM mock I take part in starts March 24th, hopefully we have some questions answered regarding the QB market till then

Looking at that vid I have to say that I don't like Tannehill's zip on his throws...he looks like a touch passer to my eye...if you look at RG3...his throws travel through the air much faster or is it just me?

If given the option would you take Tannehill (as the browns) over Luck?

Luck has the bigger chance to hit due to his ability to read defenses. They are however more similar than most believe. These are 3 really good QBs. Luck you can drop him in any system and he should do ok. Tannehill has been groomed in the WCO and those QBs generally dont do to good once they get out of it.

RG3 imho is made for more of a vertical stretch offense where he can buy time with his legs to allow those big plays to develop. He can probably run this system but he would be the biggest risk of the top 3.

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Tannehill has been groomed in the WCO and those QBs generally dont do to good once they get out of it.

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I disagree with this but let's take this into a longevity scenario...

What happens when Holmgren disappears...Heckert leaves for a President's job...Hopefully takes over HERE...And Shurmer moves on...And the new guys want a Vertical Stretch Offensive System put in place???

There goes Tanny...Although I think it's BS that he couldn't run both...Unlike McCoy...We KNOW he couldn't fit a Vertical Style...Yes MAC...Yes DAMAN...Some of us SEE this today...

We disagree with this concerning Griffin...But I think he could run BOTH styles of offense and would be here till he retires...Same with Luck...And I believe Tanny could as well...If YOU don't think Tanny can run both then it's stupid to draft him...Unless of course we stick with the WCO even with a HC change...

I threw in my mouth once I got to 4...hard to move forward after that

You have been building up to this mock draft for months now

Just say no to Tannehill

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I would consider Sanu at #22, so if we get him AND Schwartz by trading back with Philly, then I would be ecstatic.

I also like the though of getting Broyles even if he is a PUP candidate to start the season.

Sad that we just miss out on L.Miller, C.Polk and L.David in your draft, but I would be pretty happy with this one (outside of the #4 pick, but you knew that already )

have you watched Tannehill against a good defense? or an above average one though? I was not impressed with him.

Tannehill vs. Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Arkansas last season was not good.

game logs:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/232059/ryan-tannehill

vs. Arkie (his worst games were vs. OU and Tx, but youtube doesn't seem to have these breakdowns for those games on him)

Tannehill at 4 would be insanity of the highest degree. Theres MAYBE an argument at 22...but at 4?

I would lose it. You don;t draft a project QB with limited experience at 4. Ever. Even if the mob makes threats against your family.

I bet we go Claiborne at #4
and I bet we take Tannehill at #22

I need to watch more Tannehill, but I think I'd be ok with that if the cost for RGIII gets outrageous (which I don't think it will. One week until Manning is cut.) I'd prefer one of the top-end receivers (Floyd, Wright, Blackmon if hell breaks loose) at 22, but there are scenarios where I wouldn't be upset with this scenario. The #22 pick is lagniappe.

Charles Davis has Tannehill going at 6 to the skins with us getting RG3.
Albert Breer has Tannehill going at 8 to Miami. Chad Reuter going 12 to Seattle. Steve Wyche 6 to the Skins. Casserly 22 to the Browns.

Now most of those mocks has RG3 going to Cleveland.

I think Washington gets RGIII, Flynn to the Dolphins, Manning to Arizona.

I think we snag Tannehill at 22 and he sits behind Colt this year while they continue to build the WCO.

Lagniappe is our 4th. We need to make good use of 22.

I hope we get a RDE or a RT there.