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Unfortunate to lose him, his versatility will be missed. I thank him for his playing time here, and wish him well there, just hope his new team stinks it up.
Broncos signed S Mike Adams, formerly of the Browns.
Adams started all 16 games at free safety last season, excelling in coverage. Rahim Moore is expected to get another shot at free safety, leaving Adams to play more in the box than he should at strong safety. According to Pro Football Focus, Adams wasn't nearly as good in run support last season.
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I guess maybe it's a good sign that we finally have players that other teams WANT. 
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I always liked Mike Adams and he's since coming here. Unfortunately he's getting a little old.
Trying to think of why we wouldn't resign him, I figure, Usama Young, TJ Ward, Eric Hagg, and probably Sheldon Brown will be our safeties next year.
Sheldon as a FS (that or we'll find someone that can fit the bill hopefully). I just don't think Usama Young is that good, although I appreciate he can step in and play corner if there's an emergency as Mike Adams could. And Usama has to be younger
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Oh man, he was one of my favorites, paps Adams. It's sad to lose a guy that has been consistent and a hard worker on the team for multiple years. Good luck Adams!!! 
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Never been a fan...he was better than Elam, which isnt saying much "Excelling in coverage" Don't like most of the options from the draft...but there are some mid to late round flyers worth taking....Hagg or rook at FS in 2012...there's a shortage of quality FS around the league
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I liked Mike Adams. He was an absolute team player, and did everything asked of him, and did it well.
I think that his age entered into it, and I think that the team knows that they must be able to stop the run, especially in our division.
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Because now we can take a RB and a FS in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft.. because that will help us fill holes.. 
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I don't know of many FS I want that early in this draft.
For whatever reason, it almost seems like FS in college is an endangered species lately.
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I don't know of many FS I want that early in this draft.
For whatever reason, it almost seems like FS in college is an endangered species lately.
We are in agreement twice in one day 
I don't think that anyone is talking about him, but I think Dockery could be a surprise candidate for FS.
He reminds me of a young Felix Wright, but needed to add some muscle this off season.
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I don't know of many FS I want that early in this draft.
For whatever reason, it almost seems like FS in college is an endangered species lately.
We are in agreement twice in one day
See, you're getting smarter all the time .....  lol
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definitely gonna miss him.. i dont think Hagg is ready for more PT behind Ward/Young...
Hopefully those two can stay healthy.
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Good luck Mike. Hope you get a chance to start out there.
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I don't know of many FS I want that early in this draft.
For whatever reason, it almost seems like FS in college is an endangered species lately.
The highest rated FS in the draft according to the one site I saw was in the late 40s I think overall... which is why I said we could take one in the 2nd or probably 3rd round...
However the underlying joke, perhaps I should have put it in purple.. is that we let 2 decent players go so we can draft 2 players and hope they are as good as the 2 we let get away... it's hard to fill the holes we had last year when you have to fill other holes that you created.. any chef can tell you that.
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Young sucked at free safety so did Mike Adams. Frankly we got zero from the position until Hagg actually came over the top and broke up a pass near the end of the season. FS was every bit as bad as RDE, WLB and QB last year.
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Nah, Adams was EXCELLENT in coverage  
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Why do people not want to re-sign "good but not great" guys we have on our team but are ok with doing the same with FA from other teams(Rucker)?
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Why do people not want to re-sign "good but not great" guys we have on our team but are ok with doing the same with FA from other teams(Rucker)?
Rucker wasn't brought here to be a starter.
Adams MAY have started at FS here, but probably would have been a situational guy...
I liked him. But he's getting older.
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who knows, I wanted the Browns to resign him.
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Young sucked at free safety so did Mike Adams. Frankly we got zero from the position until Hagg actually came over the top and broke up a pass near the end of the season. FS was every bit as bad as RDE, WLB and QB last year.
I liked Adams, his versatility was good. Good fill in, but that is it. We need a bonafide starter. They don't need to be a stud, just someone who can do the fundamental things naturally. Mike is a back-up, we need starter quality. Like I said I like him, but won't miss him.
I also think Haag will play alot. They put him in for a reason at the end of the year....experience. I also like Dockery. I thought Haag look the part, but most just remember a missed play he had.
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well according to his interview someone on here linked he was given the keys to the car, right?
And yes I am too lazy to look it up, but I know I read it here somewhere.
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Hillis departure was an injury/ team thing. Steiny departure was scheme, age, injury and money. Adams was let go for a serious decline in play combined with the fact we already have 2 more strong safeties ahead of him on the depth chart and he just doesnt have the wheels left to play over the top anymore.
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You can't really believe that. I respect a lot of your opinions but Hagg was horrible when he was in there. I did like Dockery when I saw him play however.
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Why do people not want to re-sign "good but not great" guys we have on our team but are ok with doing the same with FA from other teams(Rucker)?
Rucker wasn't brought here to be a starter.
Then someone in our FO was lying to him...
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Rucker wasn't brought here to be a starter.
Then someone in our FO was lying to him...
Was he? I assume he was the Run stopper part of a rotation opposite Sheard...
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He said in his press conference that he was told he would start.
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I may have only heard of Frostee Ruckers name during about 5 games when he was playing the Browns, but everytime his name was mentioned, it was a negative for him. ( interesting way to listen to a radio broadcast of a game, every time a guys name is mentioned, was it a positive play or a negative play for him, in that game situation? Frostee Rucker was getting ran around and schooled every time I heard him mentioned on a Bengals Broadcast. And I remember hearing it alot, ... Dave Lapham just always trying to put a positive spin or excuse on the bad play he would have just had. Maybe my memory is all wrong. 
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Don't worry, I don't think many people trust your player evaluations as it is.
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Don't worry, I don't think many people trust your player evaluations as it is.
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I will miss some of the run support. We must have a world of faith in those left behind. Thanks for the work here and I wish him well until he plays us. Draft will target this position, I assume. 
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Lack of Sig Picture..
Took me a minute...
Everything makes sense again..
Not really..
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I will miss some of the run support. We must have a world of faith in those left behind. Thanks for the work here and I wish him well until he plays us. Draft will target this position, I assume.
I dont see ANY safeties worthy of a high pick..
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I will miss some of the run support. We must have a world of faith in those left behind. Thanks for the work here and I wish him well until he plays us. Draft will target this position, I assume.
I dont see ANY safeties worthy of a high pick..
Barron is projected in the late 1st round. I think he's more of a SS though...
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He said in his press conference that he was told he would start.
And as of now, he will. He'll start 1st down out, likely get 2nd down, and then 3rd down will probably be more of a mix bag. I can see how that'd make him more of the starter now but not the answer long-term. As of now, I'd see him and Benard for the rotation there at RDE with King Kong being the pass rush specialist. It'll work for rotational purposes at least but we'll still need to draft our RDE of the future.
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Adams leaving doesn't bother me all that much. He was a decent player, but I think we can do better with guys already on the team.
What does bother me is our relative inactivity in FA, be it not showing any interest or our inability to get people signed.
It would be nice if we could shore up a few positions before the draft....but...we just stand on the sidelines twiddling our thumbs.
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I think that it's obvious that it's going to take a special (desperate?) WR for us to make a move there. I would like to see us make a move to bolster the LB corps.
Of course, with 13 picks (at least) in the coming draft, maybe Heckert feels that he can fill all of the holes this year in one fell swoop. He does seem able to find solid OL later in the draft, so maybe he'll come up with a 3rd/4th round RT.
Back to Adams, he's good in coverage as a center fielder type. However, he is getting up there in years and as the old saying goes, it's better to cut ties a year too soon than a year too late. I am not at all impressed with our Safety corps ... or would "corpse" be a better description? Ward always seems to be hurt, Young is "Bleh", Hagg didn't show much of anything, and we were forced to see Ray Ventrone in coverage .... something I never want to see again. (unless we're talking about punt/kickoff coverage)
Now maybe they are considering moving Brown to Safety. That would make sense as he could play center field probably as well as anyone else on the team. We could let guys like Patterson, Skrine, and Dockery battle it out for the starter spot. I think that those 3 have some pretty solid talent, and all have solid speed. Skrine, in particular, seems to have good hips for the position, and looked comfortable coming out of his backpedal when I could see him.
I could see us flipping Brown to Safety and drafting another 4th/5th round CB. Heckert does seem to have a real feel for the position.
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Ward always seems to be hurt
Ward started all 16 games his first year. Then in his second year, 2011, he started 8 games before being injured and missed the entire second half of the season.
"Always seems to be hurt" has the conotation of numerous injuries. Ward has been hurt just once although it has unfortunately been an 8 game injury.
I only pointed it out because to me he doesn't always seem to be hurt. It seems to me that he's been hurt once.
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