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PFT: Vontaze Burfict bombs his Pro Day, too
Posted by Evan Silva on March 16, 2012, 4:49 PM EDT
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Arizona State linebacker Vontaze Burfict bombed the Combine. His interviews were described as disastrous, and his forty time and jumps were pathetic compared to the rest of the linebackers invited to Indianapolis.
So Burfict surely prepared and rebounded at his Pro Day, right?
Wrong.
According to SI.com draft analyst Tony Pauline, Burfict was “not good in position drills” at the Sun Devils’ Friday workout, and Pauline acknowledged that he’s “watering that down.” One scout told Pauline he “actually felt bad for [Burfict].”
Burfict managed only 16 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press. With poor measurables and game tape, and suspect on- and off-the-field character, Burfict may struggle to be drafted at all in April.
Sticking by the comments I made at the combine, which is that he's a late-round guy who's gonna be in prison in a few years.
Of course I may have been a little too optimistic...
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What a shock ..............
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the worst part of all of this is that he had to know he was going to bomb them (he didn't go into it without at least trying each once, right?)
so, why not feign an injury? that's what I would have suggested if I was his agent and just hope someone takes a chance on drafting you based on name recoginition
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I stillthink he's worth the risk of a 4th
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Who was it that said he was a guaranteed first round pick? The guy is all attitude.
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Opinions are allowed to change at the combine. I once was a huge pimp of Jonathan Scott from Texas...until he came to the combine looking like a guy who didn't really love the game. I pretty much ran rough-shod over a trio of old ladies so that I could be the first to jump off his bandwagon.
Now if someone comes along and STILL says he's a 1st round guy, well...
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wow...
dude went from possibly being selected in the 1st round to probably not being drafted at all... incredible.
get him with a 7th round compensatory pick?
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I wouldn't touch this guy with a 7th, let alone a 4th.
This is the kind of guy who is going to come to camp massively out of shape, have a coach get all over him .... punch the coach, ending his career ..... and then probably winding up in jail for a violent offense against a much weaker victim before he hits 30.
If I had every single pick in the 4th through 7th rounds, I would still pass on the guy.
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Kiper still had him late first b efore the combines lol Most of the "experts" had him as a top 5 linebacker.
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Some of these guys grow up in the hood or burbs and don't know a thing about work ethic. At one time it all came naturally and they were at the top of the pile simply because they were bigger and stronger. So, they didn't work to get better. They didn't count on the fact there are a lot of players who keep working to be players. I agree with the scout....I do feel sorry for the guy. His shot in life was to be a football player just as that was Clarett's shot in life.It shows how weak minded some of these guys really are. It's almost as if they are given a winning lottery ticket 2 years out, but told it takes doing this and doing that....all very attainable stuff, and they flub it up. I think you are wrong about the prison thing. He's a big enough boy that someone isn't going to mess with him, they are just going to shoot him. Wow, I forgot about Jonathan Scott.  That's OK....I was convinced Pig Prather was a solid player out of Miss. St.....at least until he scored maybe a 4 on the Wonderlic. If you can tie your shoes and manage to not drool on your hands you'll score at least a 5.
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Pretty funny how people here say that some posters don't know WTF they're talking about. I'm talking about the posters here, and there are a handful, who actually form their own opinion by watching decades worth of college and pro ball.
The media says this and the media says that. If you knew so much why don't you send your resume to the Browns....
That kind of talk.
Then it pretty much ends up just like those posters said it would be...
And crickets.
Oh well.
Maybe it'll be a lesson to dial down the rhetoric toward people here that make out of the consensus calls on prospects due to their own due diligence.
But probably not.
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I wouldn't touch this guy with a 7th, let alone a 4th.
This is the kind of guy who is going to come to camp massively out of shape, have a coach get all over him .... punch the coach, ending his career ..... and then probably winding up in jail for a violent offense against a much weaker victim before he hits 30.
If I had every single pick in the 4th through 7th rounds, I would still pass on the guy.
We always have Frostee to mentor him.
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wow...
dude went from possibly being selected in the 1st round to probably not being drafted at all... incredible.
get him with a 7th round compensatory pick?
We don't have a 7th round compensatory pick. He probably wouldn't even be worth that much.
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I wouldn't ask this guy for the current time let alone waste a draft selection on him. I've been saying this same thing since I watched a game of his last year. Waste, prima donna, hype, jackass and loser. Done.
Whomever bet he would go in the first round deserves to be banned from the board.
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I think that poster has to self ban himself for 2 years, or some such terms.  
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Just clicking. Smells like a Bengals pick. I'm not talking smack either.
They seem to love taking once highly-regarded linebackers that end up falling due to character or combine concerns.
Maualuga, Thurman, Brooks all come to mind immediately.
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Pretty sure it's LOYALDAWG
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I can do 16 reps of 225. That is kinda sad for a LB'er.
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I could see the Ravens drafting him and Ray Lewis taking Burfict under his wing.
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and then probably winding up in jail for a violent offense against a much weaker victim before he hits 30.
Does this guy have a violent legal past? The way everyone talks about him destined for prison, I'd figured he would ... but he doesn't even have an arrest record.
Am I missing something?
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So, they didn't work to get better. They didn't count on the fact there are a lot of players who keep working to be players.
Ya see it in just about every line of work ... shame
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Just clicking. Smells like a Bengals pick. I'm not talking smack either.
They seem to love taking once highly-regarded linebackers that end up falling due to character or combine concerns.
Maualuga, Thurman, Brooks all come to mind immediately.
My first thought was, That settles it, he's gonna be a Bengal.
Well since Al Davis died, we can't be sure the Raiders would jump to take him.
The Bengals a few years back, took an out of shape offensive tackle who just got mad and walked out on his pro day, Then failed to catch a plane to meet his team for the first time.
But in large part it has worked out for them.
 , He's still a football player.
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Guy is a disaster. Damn shame too because he had so much promise. The comments about his coaches screwing him up will probably hurt him more than his measureables... no coach wants a guy who threw the old staff under the bus like that. As of right now, I still think he'll be drafted late by a team like the Ravens who have the locker room to mold him but I will not be surprised in the least if he goes undrafted.
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I believe 100% somebody can turn this kid around.
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I don't think so Mutt.
You learn work ethic fairly young. Your Daddy didn't pay you much to rake the leaves and cut the grass.
If we could hire the guy at $15 a hour, I would, but we can't. We have to hire him at maybe $1000 a hour.
I would do that if he was my qualified brain surgeon or my qualified legal representative if I was in deep legal trouble, but he isn't qualified as a football player at this point.
Let him gain his credentials elsewhere and sign him in 5 years, if he gets there.
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I thought the same of Mo Clarett, so did Shanahan.
It takes more than talent to succeed at the pro level, because there are those with less athletic talent and more intelligence and desire, who are better players.
There are athletes and players, they are not necessarily the same.
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Arizona State linebacker Vontaze Burfict began “draft season” rated as a first-round pick, at least according to January mock drafts from guys like ESPN’s Todd McShay. Three months later, there’s legitimate doubt about whether Burfict will be drafted at all.
NFL Network’s Mike Mayock doesn’t think there’s a whole lot left to talk about. He has Burfict rated as an undrafted free agent.
“I put his tape on with absolutely zero preconceived notions,” Mayock explained in a Thursday conference call with media. “I watched three tapes and really didn’t like him as a football player.
“I think he’s a non-draftable kid. For me, he’s a free agent.”
The common misconception with Burfict is that his problems occurred during the pre-draft process, when Burfict bombed at the Combine and again at his Pro Day. As Mayock has explained, however, Burfict’s fall occurred during games. He’s just not a good player.
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Unbelievable. This guy screwed up his entire life because he didn't like a coach. With that said, if Burfict was available in the seventh round I would have no qualms with taking him. Bring him into camp, if he doesn't act right you cut him. There is no way all of our draft picks make the team anyway with all the picks we have.
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Unbelievable. This guy screwed up his entire life because he didn't like a coach. With that said, if Burfict was available in the seventh round I would have no qualms with taking him. Bring him into camp, if he doesn't act right you cut him. There is no way all of our draft picks make the team anyway with all the picks we have.
he screwed his entire life because he didn't like the coach and then didn't just work to put himself in peak physical condition. he could have slid by if he could convince a team that the coaching just wasn't putting him into the proper situations if he aced the combine stuff.
but, umm, if you have haphazard game-tape, come off as an ass in interviews, and bomb the athleticism drills, then you have pulled the trifecta.
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but, umm, if you have haphazard game-tape, come off as an ass in interviews, and bomb the athleticism drills, then you have pulled the trifecta.
He's an over achiever. 
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Vontaze Burfict: Blah Blah Blah . . . Vontaze Burfict: Draft me and you get a great middle linebacker Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2012, 8:08 PM EDT With the NFL draft starting in six days, Vontaze Burfict knows he needs to change perceptions about him. Burfict, the former Arizona State linebacker who struggled at the Combine, bombed his Pro Day, wasn’t invited to visit any teams and was described as “non-draftable,” has given an interview to Sports Illustrated in which he insists he has what it takes to be a tremendous NFL player. “Whoever picks me in the draft,” Burfict said, “is going to have a great middle linebacker.” The Sports Illustrated story about Burfict opens with the news that he was spending the day in Las Vegas, and frankly, it wasn’t very smart of Burfict and whoever is advising him these days to have him conduct his interview from a Las Vegas hotel room. There’s nothing wrong with a guy taking a vacation in Las Vegas, but if Burfict is giving interviews in an attempt to change public perceptions about him, he ought to allow some reporters to come join him when he’s busting his butt in the gym, not calling reporters up in between playing blackjack and walking the Strip. The criticisms of Burfict include his slow 40 times and his hot temper. Burfict says that while it’s true he has some anger issues, he thinks he’s misunderstood. “[P]eople think I have a bad attitude because of the personal fouls on the field, or I ran a slow 40 at the Combine,” he said. “I’m just real competitive, and I hate to lose. Because of the position I play … you have to have some emotions running through your head. When I’m on the field, I play with anger and aggression; just want to hit somebody. Certain people think, He’s probably like that off the field. I’ve never been arrested, never been pulled over for anything. I wish that all 32 teams could just chill with me for a day and see what kind of person I am off the field. I’m soft-spoken and shy. I’m a laid-back guy.” It’s too late for Burfict to chill with an NFL team before the draft. But it’s not too late for him to prove that he can be a great middle linebacker. Probably by catching on somewhere as an undrafted free agent.
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Sources: Browns Interested In Troubled LB Vontaze BurfictApr 11, 2012 By: Will Burge Over the past few seasons Browns’ General Manager Tom Heckert has shown that he is not afraid to take risks on players who have a questionable history. He may be looking to do it again this year. Multiple sources tell ESPN Cleveland that the Browns have an interest in drafting troubled Arizona State linebacker Vontaze Burfict. One source said, “It would be a late round value pick,” if the Browns were to select the linebacker who has as many red flags as he does talent. Entering his junior season, Burfict was widely regarded as one of the best linebackers in the country and a possible top 5 draft pick. Unfortunately, a locker room fight in the preseason, a mediocre year on the field, and poor interviews and performance at the combine have caused his stock to plummet to the point where experts think he may not even be drafted. During pre-combine interviews, Burfict blamed coaches for his poor junior season and tried to justify punching teammate Kevin Ozier in the face after a practice. He then hit the field and was equally as underwhelming. He posted the second worst vertical leap among linebackers and the worst broad jump. He did not participate in the bench press or shuttle runs. Despite the poor combine performance and questionable interview skills, Burfict is still an intriguing talent and sources say that is something Heckert recognizes. Burfict plays middle linebacker, the same position as D’Qwell Jackson who just received a 5 year $42.5 Million contract extension. Perhaps Heckert feels that Jackson could teach Burfict how to become a professional and eventually develop him into the heir apparent at middle linebacker. In the past, Heckert has not shied away from drafting players with a spotted history. In 2011, he drafted Greg Little and Jabaal Sheard who both had off the field concerns, but they both performed well with no distractions during their rookie seasons. Sheard led the team in sacks and forced fumbles while Little led the team in catches and receiving yards. If the Browns do select the 6’2” 260 pound linebacker in the 2012 draft, it will be in the late rounds and he will be a project. It is exactly the type of low risk, high reward choice a team can afford to make in the final rounds of a draft where they hold 13 picks. Will Burge covers the Browns for ESPNCleveland.com and hosts 3 Deep, Monday - Friday from 7pm-9pmhttp://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=19&post_id=883
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No, please no.
Just use the selection on me. I'll sign a $10 contract and they can cut me 1 minute later. I'll impact the team as much as this loser.
Ugh, I want to barf just thinking about this guy on our team.
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if he's there in the 7th round.. why not?
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if he's there in the 7th round.. why not?
I agree, if we only burn a 7th on him, he's worth that roll of the dice.
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Exactly, secure exclusive rights to him. Late rounds are where you take chances. This guy has talent, why not try to harness it?
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7th rounders very rarely become anything. If we take Burfict in 7th he'll still probably be a practice squad player who is cut in a season or two. As long as Trevathon isn't still on the board or something ridiculous like that I won't mind it.
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Man, I gotta disagree.
A guy who cares so little about his professional future in a business/game that he shows up horribly out of shape, and bombs every test there is for his position, including just talking to coaches is not a good risk to me. He has every red flag there is, and I would draft a punter before I would even look at him.
The guy may have some decent tape ..... but he showed a massive, massive lack of commitment there. I want guys late who love the game so much that they will run through anything put in their way to make a team and contribute. I don't want guys who can't even get themselves in playing shape with their careers on the line.
If I'm the Browns, he's off my board entirely.
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and maybe, just maybe the kid is teachable at the next level. if not, we wasted a 7th, not a big deal. that's why they call them projects.
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Coming into college, he was THE most highly regarded player to ever go to ASU..even higher than Terrell Suggs. If he's there in the 5th/6th/7th, I wouldn't mind taking him. If he doesn't pan out you, you can just cut him. We have 13 picks this year. Using one of our late round picks on a guy who is very talented but troubled doesn't bother me in the least. What do we have to lose? I'd understand not wanting to use a high pick on him, but in a year where we have 13 picks, using a late round flier on him is 100% the right choice. If he shows any negative attitude, just cut him.
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Let's not forget that targeting him can also include as an undrafted free agent.
I think he's a risk worth taking in the 6th or later.
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