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Can someone explain to me why a guy like Jonas Valanciunas was in the draft LAST year..?
Knowing that he wasn't going to be able to play in the NBA until NEXT year..?
I'm pretty sure he declared thinking he was going to be able to get out of his current euro-contract ... and then a day before the draft, it came out that he wasn't going to be able to get out of that contract.
That's part of the speculation of why the Cavs passed on him. Or that they were looking at doing a trade where somebody would pick up Jonas around the 8-9 pick, and TT was part of the swap. But then the Raptors took him anyway at #5. I think Jonas intended to play for the NBA, but just couldn't get out of his current obligations.
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Sophomore wing Harrison Barnes, junior power forward John Henson and sophomore point guard Kendall Marshall all are entering the NBA draft, the school announced Thursday. Add them to 7-footer Tyler Zeller, who is graduating, and the Tar Heels lose four-fifths of the starting lineup that led them to the NCAA regional finals.
Another player, reserve forward James Michael McAdoo, is pondering his decision this weekend, though his father said Wednesday he expects the freshman forward to be back in a UNC uniform next season.
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all 5 could be lottery picks.
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Good, I hope everyone declares, because we have 4 picks in this draft, and the deeper the draft, the better for the Cavaliers.
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I don't know how, but I have this weird feeling that we're going to wind up with a 3rd first round pick somehow.
I have no idea how or why ...... I just have this feeling .......
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we could likely package our 2 2nd round picks and get back into the 20s.
teams in the 20s might not have a free roster spot for a guaranteed contract. contracts in the 2nd round are not guaranteed and they can also lock it into a European player they plan on bringing over in a few years.
it's not a bad plan (you only want so many rookies on a team in the first place)
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I don't know how, but I have this weird feeling that we're going to wind up with a 3rd first round pick somehow.
I have no idea how or why ...... I just have this feeling .......
I haven't followed how the Kings are doing but don't we get their 1st round pick if they make the playoffs?
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I don't think we'll have to worry about that
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I don't think we'll have to worry about that
We have a better chance of the Heat collapsing this year, and using one of our two first round "claims". 
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The standing are interesting now. We're sitting with the 7th worst record, but we have the same number of wins as the #4 team. Lottery odds are much better around the 4 spot (12% odds) ... as opposed to about 6% odds at the number 6 spot. I don't think we're going to "catch" the bottom 3 teams though. As bad as the Cavs might look right now ... those teams are terrible!
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How do you only win 7 games?...
I have a feeling that in due time the Cavs might be fun to watch with the amount of draft picks they have and how deep this draft is...
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8 1st round draft picks over the next 5 years. 7 2nd round picks over that time. That's a full friggin' roster of players.
now, alot of those are going to be later 1st round picks (Lakers, Heat) and we might have to swap one of those 1st to a 2nd (Kings - though I think they "just miss the playoffs" one of these years and we get it).
still, that's alot of picks. alot of chances to get good solid players if we can just get a 2nd star to pair with Irving in this draft. that is why it's so important that we get as high as we can get in this draft. a Davis, MKG, or Beal would be huge to this team. A Barnes, Lamb, or Moultrie could be too (if we can figure out which one is going to be a star --- they each have bigger issues to overcome than the 1st 3 guys).
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I have full confidence Chris Grant is going to do this thing right.
He's afforded the luxury that Danny Ferry wasn't. They don't have to reach or overpay to get better. There is no clock ticking right now.
The Kyrie Irving clock may start ticking one day, but if Tristan Thompson continues to grow, and they can get another good player over the next 2 years through the draft, then I think you could possibly have an OKC type situation where guys are going to want to stay.
There is no guarantee that KI wants to stick around, maybe he has thought about it, maybe he hasn't, but if you surround him with good players and a coach like Scott, your chances are pretty good of having the same thing the Thunder have.
Although I'm sure if Irving continues to impress, ESPN will start their campaign to get him out of Cleveland just like they did with Lebron. (They did)
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Is anyone watching this atrocity against the bucks?
We have one player. No one made a bucket while he's on the bench. Outscored 20-1 while he sat. Jesus.
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We need a center BAD. Varejao is great, but the cupboard is bare after that. completely.
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We have one player. No one made a bucket while he's on the bench. Outscored 20-1 while he sat. Jesus.
This is why we still need to tank. Kyrie needs help. Nah we'd be better off slipping into the 8 spot and getting crushed instead 
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I have us drafting 3rd and taking Bradley Beal.
I could live with that.
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Davis, MKG, or Beal would be amazing to our team.
If we could also get 2 more rotation players with the Lakers pick + our 2x2nd rounders (couple them together for a late 1st?) that would make us a young team on the rise.
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I still like Jeremy Lamb too, but he's going to be atrocious on defense the first couple of years while he fills out.
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I know I have said this before, but I think it's hilarious how similiar this current Bulls team and the Cavs the last few years they had LBJ are. Chicago's supporting cast is a little better while Lebron straight up is a little better than D-Rose.
You can argue how much better any of those are, but you can't argue that they are not built for the post-season.
If Chicago doesn't deliver this year, there won't be any campaigns to try and push Rose out of Chicago by taking shots at the team or anything like that. Just look at the market. It's 100% sour grapes, but it's also true.
I know Rose is signed with the Bulls and has never talked or left things open about leaving, but I do think the media and the way they viewed Cleveland, played into it. ESPN was always so negative about Cleveland and the city that I think that played into free agents not wanting to come there (I'm sure it's not the only reason, I know) which made it probably a lot harder for LBJ to consider staying. I know they talked about it in Beijing but I don't think it was as close to a done deal, the more I think about it.
Just letting out my two cents. I think OKC is going to win it all this year. I think it's Durant's time.
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My dream road for the Heat is getting tougher to pull off with the Cs winning too much lately and the Pacers losing too much.
But, it's still possible and only a couple games outside of the current seedings to happen:
Round 1: Heat vs. Celtics - noone can convince me that the Knicks, 76ers or Hawks would be a tougher 1st round opponent than the Celtics in their likely "last hurrah" in the current configuration.
Round 2: Heat vs. Pacers - assuming they get past Boston, I think the Pacers offer a tougher matchup than the "at times punchless" Magic. I'm hoping Indiana passes Orlando for that 3seed.
Round 3: Heat vs. Chicago - if the Heat get here, then obviously alot hinges on Rose being fully healthy. If he is, then it could be a blessing the team got used to doing things without him. Maybe Taj has his PJ Brown moment? Last year was closer than the 4-1 indicated and it'd be a fun series.
Finals: Heat vs. Thunder - seems to be the Final that the general public wants to see. It's going to be really tough for OKC to get this far though. The West is brutal with tons of landmines in every round, while the Heat could conceivably walk through the East with the Knicks, Hawks(6over3?), Pacers (if they knocked off Bulls).
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If you look back at the Celtics, they won it in 2008, went back to the finals in 2010 (the year of the infamous game 5), and in between they took the year off errrrrrrr went through injuries.
So 2012 would figure them to be a competitive team in the playoffs. I still think they're done and don't pose a threat for a title, but they could be a thorn in Lebron's side. I would still sign up for that series though.
For once, the west looks kind of weak. I know they still have teams that win a bunch of games, but aside from OKC, does anyone stick out? I know the Spurs are quietly putting together a really good season, and could be hungry and pissed off considering what happened last year, but I just don't know if they could take down OKC.
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Ok, let's play the same game with the Thunder. Toughest road for them:
Round 1 - Jazz: really came on in the 2nd half, have 4 legitimate frontcourt players. They could be this year's Memphis in that they are the low seed that noone wants to play in a 7game series (and they might not even make the playoffs)
Round 2 - Mavericks: Memphis has too many injured parts that I think they won't be efficient enough come playoff time (Conley and Randolph in particular). Denver has been disjointed all year. The Clippers would get exposed by the Thunder. That leaves defending champ Dallas as the toughest 2nd round opponent. And, the Thunder have done a great job on them so far this year. Still, if Dallas can keep it close, then it's tough to count out Dirk down the stretch.
Round 3: Spurs - they just have another gear when Manu is healthy. Westbrook has struggled with Parker. And they have enough depth to give the Thunder a full run. It would be a big brother v. little brother feel to it though. The underappreciated teams in the West that were built from within. One nearing the end of their title contention and the other just entering. It would be an interesting battle and I never count Pops and Tim out of a series.
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I'm interested to see how the Mavs respond in these playoffs.
They were able to soak it in as champs a bit longer because of the layoff, I wonder if that's good or bad. I think it obviously depends on how these vets do with wanting to go after it again. They really wanted it last year, a lot of those guys saw it as maybe their last true shot. I think OKC is coming back stronger this year.
I think the East is Miami's to lose still, even with them not looking so hot right now.
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I think it took everything out of the Mavs last year. Would not shock me if they lost in the first round.
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I think it took everything out of the Mavs last year. Would not shock me if they lost in the first round.
depends on the matchup, but I don't think that would shock many people. you take out Chandler and put in a disinterested Odom and that is what happens in a pretty even conference.
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Right now they'd be matched up against the Clippers, and I think that would be favorable for them. Mark me down for not buying into the Clippers.
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Right now they'd be matched up against the Clippers, and I think that would be favorable for them. Mark me down for not buying into the Clippers.
when someone other than Chris Paul starts playing defense on that team, then I might believe them a bit.
even DeAndre who supposedly is the "key" to their defense just swats the ball as hard as he can (which gives the ball right back) and also is quick to jump on the driver opening up easy weakside passes.
they are a fun team to watch that needs 2 wing defenders who can knock down outside shots from being an elite team.
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I have us drafting 3rd and taking Bradley Beal.
I could live with that.
The though of Anthony Davis being a real possibility is making it hard for me to sleep at night. I think Irving + Davis is a guaranteed ring. They are both MVP calibre players, and Anthony Davis will win a bunch of DPOY awards.
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Is there ANY way if we don't get the 1st pick in the lottery, beyond trading Kyrie himself, that we could trade for it?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Is there ANY way if we don't get the 1st pick in the lottery, beyond trading Kyrie himself, that we could trade for it?
Nobody will trade away Anthony Davis. So I don't see that happening.
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Is there ANY way if we don't get the 1st pick in the lottery, beyond trading Kyrie himself, that we could trade for it?
Considering Ted Stepien is dead, I'd say no.
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Is there ANY way if we don't get the 1st pick in the lottery, beyond trading Kyrie himself, that we could trade for it?
If the Cavs win the lottery and are sitting at #1 ... is there anything you'd trade away to someone else looking for that spot? Considering the teams that will be there will probably be worse off than we are ... that's probably your answer.
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Anthony Davis showed why he deserves to be the #1 pick. Did nothing on offense but still completely dominated.
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Is there ANY way if we don't get the 1st pick in the lottery, beyond trading Kyrie himself, that we could trade for it?
If the Cavs win the lottery and are sitting at #1 ... is there anything you'd trade away to someone else looking for that spot? Considering the teams that will be there will probably be worse off than we are ... that's probably your answer.
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Anthony Davis showed why he deserves to be the #1 pick. Did nothing on offense but still completely dominated.
Why are we talking about Greg Oden in the National Championship game?
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Anthony Davis showed why he deserves to be the #1 pick. Did nothing on offense but still completely dominated.
Why are we talking about Greg Oden in the National Championship game?
well, if his knees held up, then he likely would have been a top flight NBA guy.
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Davis is so much more athletic than Oden.
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Davis is so much more athletic than Oden.
but not nearly as big. trade-offs.
anyways, here's hoping the whole Kentucky lot declares for the NBA now. the more in the draft, the better the Cavs options at their spots.
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This draft is going to be very deep.
In respect to Sullinger.....How bad did he hurt his draft stock by staying an extra year? Wasn't he probably going #1 overall last year?
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