Quote: So as I said before, it's just par for the course with this wretched franchise.
Go root for Buffalo then (or the Jets since they're getting a QB that's 10X better than McCoy). You are now on my Ignore List (and that's not an easy list to get on).
Thanks Phil. No, I'll be at the Browns bar every Sunday just like I have been for the last 10 years. Of course it's more in a mocking manner of "gee I wonder how we'll make ourselves look like fools and lose THIS weekend?!?" rather than an actual excitement for real NFL football. Ah well, so goes the life of a Cleveland sports fan.
On to more pressing FA news. So about that 3rd string punter....
Fear us, for we are the BROWNS, led by the mighty BM! Only in Cleveland.
Quote: Doesn't really affect us... we couldn't really stop *anyone* from running the ball, so it really doesn't matter that they get someone with some notoriety.
well, it's one more team that might pass on Richardson and let him fall all the way to #22 on draft day
Quote: So as I said before, it's just par for the course with this wretched franchise.
Go root for Buffalo then (or the Jets since they're getting a QB that's 10X better than McCoy). You are now on my Ignore List (and that's not an easy list to get on).
Thanks Phil. No, I'll be at the Browns bar every Sunday just like I have been for the last 10 years. Of course it's more in a mocking manner of "gee I wonder how we'll make ourselves look like fools and lose THIS weekend?!?" rather than an actual excitement for real NFL football. Ah well, so goes the life of a Cleveland sports fan.
On to more pressing FA news. So about that 3rd string punter....
rofl, these kids are clueless. I can't wait for another 4 win season...again. Everyone is just butt hurt that Tebow stomped their beloved Buckeyes.
Tebow was 10 times the college (and NFL) QB that Colt is/was. Throw up all the numbers you want, the SEC is by far the most superior college division and Tebow dominated it.
He was a backup WR. he spent 4 years in Cincinnati, and caught about 30 catches per year. No biggie.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: He was a backup WR. he spent 4 years in Cincinnati, and caught about 30 catches per year. No biggie.
Thanks, hadn't had a chance to look it up, I had assumed he was a 1st-2nd year player (which I would have seen had I read the whole article and not skimmed for numbers...I know it's hard to read a 10 sentence article...*sigh*).
Have any of our receivers had 124 catches across a 4 year span?
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
came out of Florida. Cincy seems to like players that are Gators or Bulldogs. I thought the Browns would look at him. He would have been a upgrade over Massaqiou or Norwood, kinda of a unknown when you play in the shadows of A.J Green,Chad Johnson, and Terrell Owens.
Who was the kid a couple years back from U of Cinci who had a few monster years in college? I cant remember his name but I'm pretty sure I've not heard it in the NFL.
Quote: Bears making a couple good moves this year.
as long as they get some OL in the draft
Now that they're clear of the Cutler trade price, that's possible. The Skins will see this coming.....RG3 might be good, but they'll have trouble adding good young talent around him. You can't fix everything in FA, especially since it costs so much and you're getting a player that someone it letting go.
The Bears could be very dangerous....but that defense is getting old.
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
i can see the Lions regressing this year though. the Vikings I just don't have a good grasp on. they have alot of good pieces but such glaring weaknesses at others (like their secondary and an OL that is falling apart)
And word around the water cooler, Johnny Knox is trying to return to the field this year after a vertebral fusion procedure on his back. He might miss training camp or more....how that guy didn't die is beyond me. Awful!
Be careful...
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
Speaking of the Lions, I'm going to toss a name out there that most will likely laugh at but I think could be an interesting pick up
QB Drew Stanton
Here was the wrap on him out of college courtesy of www.SI.com
POSITIVES: Smart, hard-working passer with an NFL arm. Patient in the pocket, poised under pressure and buys time for receivers. Throws with an over-the-top delivery, accurate and nicely places the pass. Does not force the ball into coverage.
NEGATIVES: Not an elusive passer who can escape the rush. Struggled with injuries late in his senior campaign. Holds the ball too long in the pocket. Gets rattled, lose confidence and the roof will cave in.
I actually liked the look of this guy coming out of school 4 (I think) years ago. Limited game experience but hasn't looked horrible.
The Associated Press reports the Jets are now trying to trade QB Drew Stanton after acquiring Tim Tebow from the Broncos.
Stanton just a signed a reasonable one-year, $1.25 million deal. The Jets have to hope that a team in need of a quality backup, such as the Rams, Raiders or Packers prefers Stanton to the mediocre veteran options still available. The best they can hope for is a late-round pick. Stanton chose the Jets over the Bucs and Chiefs, who went on to sign Dan Orlovsky and Brady Quinn respectively. Related: Chiefs, Buccaneers
Source: Larry Lage on Twitter Mar 22 - 3:02 PM Player Outlook Game Log Career Stats Draft Advice Drew Stanton - QB - Jets Jets QB Drew Stanton is reportedly hoping that the team will release him after Tim Tebow's acquisition. Stanton didn't draw any known interest from teams other than the Jets before signing a one-year, $1.25 million deal on March 16. Plenty of teams would be interested in an athletic second- or third-stringer, though. Reentering the free agent market would allow Stanton to have a say on his new club.
Source: New York Daily News Mar 22 - 10:20 AM Player Outlook Game Log Career Stats Draft Advice Drew Stanton - QB - Jets Newly acquired Jets QB Drew Stanton reportedly may ask for a trade or his release after the team's addition of Tim Tebow. Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum was noncommittal about Stanton's future in a Wednesday night conference call. "We'll see," said Tannenbaum. "... When we signed Drew, we didn't think (Tebow) was a possibility." Tannenbaum confirmed Tebow would be the No. 2 quarterback behind Mark Sanchez, leaving Stanton potentially ahead of only Greg McElroy on the Jets' depth chart.
He would be sitting on the bench watching Richardson is why...
I'm really starting to believe this.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I am certainly not opposed to taking Richardson if he has as much impact and value as someone like Adrian Peterson. If the coaching staff believes that Richardson will have THAT much of an impact on the offense, colt handing the ball off, teams game planning, then Richardson is not a bad pick at all.
For example, I think most would be happy if the first round of the draft went something like this. Of course the people who think the drafting a RB that high is wrong will not but, yeah...
1a: Richardson 1b: Michael Floyd, Kendall Wright(I know he had a crappy forty time but when you watch him play he doesn't look slow), Steven Hill? Alshon Jeffrey? Reaching????
Of course we could go with many positions here, RT, RG, something to sure up the offensive line because of the recent loss of Steiny. Unless a stellar OT or OG is here or another surprise player slip in the draft then this is the time to get our WR. If not maybe Jeffrey in the second, I am not sure........
At least 1 person isn't happy with the signing...Matt Forte
Bears add Michael Bush to Roster By Michael C. Wright | ESPNChicago.com
The Chicago Bears agreed to terms Thursday with former Oakland Raiders running back Michael Bush, and franchise back Matt Forte isn't happy about it.
Bush gets a four-year contract worth up to $14 million, including $7 million in guaranteed money, according to a source.
The Bears paid Michael Bush better than a backup but he'll come in handy, especially if Matt Forte decides to hold out, Kevin Seifert writes.
"There's only so many times a man that has done everything he's been asked to do can be disrespected!" read a post on Forte's Twitter account early Thursday afternoon. "Guess the GOOD GUYS do finish last ..."
Later in the day, Forte attempted to more succinctly direct his ire with the following two posts on his Twitter account: "for the record I'm not mad at the signing of another running back. This is 4th time that's happened. I embrace competition as well as help." He added, "But as for not taking care of ur own and undervaluing a player under his market value is another story! #twitterrant"
Forte recently was designated the club's franchise player as the sides work to come to a long-term deal. The signing of Bush could be viewed as somewhat of an insurance policy for the Bears in the event Forte decides to hold out. The sides have until July 16 to come to an agreement on a multiyear extension. After that date, Forte must play under the tag, which comes with a salary of $7.74 million.
"Since drafting Matt in 2008, the Bears have signed Kevin Jones, Chester Taylor and Marion Barber, all ostensibly to serve as Matt's backup," Forte's agent Adisa Bakari said. "To sign yet another running back, prior to completing a contract with Matt, suggests disregard for Matt and his contributions to the Bears."
Forte has said in the past that he would be "hard to find" if the Bears tagged him, but the Bears have been adamant in expressing a desire for the sides to come to a long-term agreement.
"Matt is going to play his football for the Chicago Bears, you start with that," coach Lovie Smith said at the NFL scouting combine. "In time, hopefully, we can get an agreement in place that suits Matt, and we feel comfortable with. I think it's just a matter of time. That will happen eventually."
Bush empathizes with Forte and said he figured his new teammate will hold out.
"I can understand where the guy's coming from," Bush said. " Everything they've asked for, he's done. It's one of those things where you want to be rewarded for your success. I understand, but that has nothing to do with me. It'll be great working with him."
What the Bush deal most likely signals is the end for Barber, a 2011 free-agent acquisition, who carries a cap charge of $2.25 million into the 2012 season.
Releasing Barber would represent a cap savings of $2 million.
A fourth-round pick of the Raiders in 2007, Bush ran the ball 632 times for 2,642 yards and 21 touchdowns over four seasons, despite missing his rookie year because of a broken leg suffered in college at Louisville. Bush, 27, is coming off his best season as a pro, a campaign in which he gained 977 yards on 256 attempts in addition to scoring seven TDs.
Bush had 43 carries in Oakland's first six games for just 138 yards and a 3.2 average per carry. But after Darren McFadden was injured, Bush rushed for 839 yards on 213 attempts. He had 418 receiving yards and one touchdown through the air as well.
Bush carried 24 times for 69 yards and a touchdown in Oakland's Week 12 victory over Chicago, which kick-started the Bears' five-game slide at the end of 2011.
The acquisition of Bush marks the Bears' third attempt in as many years to bring in a capable backup for Forte. The Bears paid Taylor $7 million guaranteed in 2010, before releasing him on Sept. 3 after the veteran averaged just 2.4 yards on 112 carries.
The Bears didn't fare much better with Barber, who was signed on Aug. 1 to a two-year contract that included a $500,000 signing bonus and base salaries of $2 million and $1.9 million in 2011 and 2012, in addition to a $100,000 workout bonus. Barber rushed for 422 yards and six touchdowns last season, but missed the first three games because of a calf injury.
Barber missed the final two games with a calf injury as well.
His most memorable moments came in a 13-10 overtime loss in Week 14 at Denver, a game in which two Barber mistakes (falling out of bounds to stop the clock just after the two-minute warning with his team leading 10-3, and fumbling in overtime) led to the Broncos scoring 10 unanswered points in the last 2:08 to tie the game with three seconds remaining in regulation, before eventually winning on a 51-yard field goal by Matt Prater in overtime.
The Bears haven't made any announcement regarding Barber's future. But it's highly unlikely they will carry Bush, Forte, Barber and Kahlil Bell -- recently tendered a qualifying offer worth $1.26 million -- on the roster.
Bush started in 19 games over four seasons with the Raiders, which likely gives the Bears confidence in his ability to fill in for Forte.
Bush, who said his decision came down to the Bears and Cincinnati Bengals and also had a visit planned with the Seattle Seahawks, wasn't being pursued as a starting option.
"I was kind of surprised," Bush said. "Every meeting that I went to, they were saying they wanted to do a two-back system. I can't argue with that.
On Twitter, former Bears tight end Greg Olsen weighed in on the acquisition of Bush.
"If u have a stud 3 down guy like @MattForte 22 why keep paying backups big $ every yr?" Olsen wrote. "Crazy !! Matt deserves better."
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Wasn't Forte upset last year that he was being overworked?
Now he's unhappy because they signed a quality guy so he won't be as overworked .....?
A 4 year, $14 million does isn't some huge starter level deal, and Forte is guaranteed at least $7.7 million for this year under the franchise tag. (More than twice what Bush will make if he makes every dollar)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Just my .02...This time of year teams are over spending for average players with promise, no team wants to be the one that passed over so n so, becuase everybody knew they would be a star or everybody knew they couldnt play,...Come time for training camps & late cuts, there are going to be some desent WR coming availible as the summer wears on, Browns know this and we can then at a cheaper price get a veteran which is what we need, at a desent 1-2 year contract, & common thats all we want them for anyway, Round # 1 #4 Richardson #22 WR Round # 2 OT Round # 3 - 7 LB CB and we draft atleast 1-2 more WR
i'm not sure I understand the problem some players have with the franchise tag. I understand the desire for a long term deal but, unless the rules have chnaged, they still get paid top 5 average for their position, right?
Quote: i'm not sure I understand the problem some players have with the franchise tag. I understand the desire for a long term deal but, unless the rules have chnaged, they still get paid top 5 average for their position, right?
in salary yes. they miss out on that big signing bonus and as we all know RBs have a short shelf life (so if they don't get the deal when they can, they likely never will)
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