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RG3 wows in workout, deserves first-pick consideration By Gil Brandt Published: March 21st, 2012 | Tags: 2012 pro days, Baylor, Kendall Wright, Robert Griffin III The workout that Robert Griffin III had Wednesday at Baylor was outstanding. I’m not sure whether he or Andrew Luck should be the No. 1 overall draft pick. Of the 51 passes that he threw, just two weren’t catchable. His arm strength is very, very good; he threw the ball with ease 60 yards down the field. His anticipation was very good; he was able to hit receivers coming across the field. Griffin has excellent feet, and he’s equally good going to his right or his left. Many players are better off going one way or the other, but he was equally impressive both ways. There’s no question in my mind, after seeing him work out today, that he’s going to be a very, very good NFL quarterback in the future. He’s got everything you need in a passing arm, and he’s got speed and quickness of feet. I talked to a linebackers coach after the workout, and he said he hopes he doesn’t have to play against Griffin more than once every three or four years. Also, everybody “oohed and ahhed” at some the catches that Kendall Wright made. The thing about him is, you can’t throw the ball over his head on deep routes. But he’s a very, very athletic guy who’s very strong. http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/21/rg3-wows-in-workout-deserves-first-pick-consideration/
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Man I wish we could have got this kid.
I seriously would contact the Colts and see if there is any way they would trade out of the #1 spot. a real NFL franchise QB would do so much for this team.
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Man I wish we could have got this kid.
I seriously would contact the Colts and see if there is any way they would trade out of the #1 spot. a real NFL franchise QB would do so much for this team.
They did 10 days ago.
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Also, everybody “oohed and ahhed” at some the catches that Kendall Wright made. The thing about him is, you can’t throw the ball over his head on deep routes. But he’s a very, very athletic guy who’s very strong.
what does he mean by that? when reading at first, I thought he meant that you can't overthrow him because of his speed. but, he throws the "But" in there next which seems to indicate that K-Wright can't reach up and grab high passes?
color me confused on this one. interpretor please.
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Also, everybody “oohed and ahhed” at some the catches that Kendall Wright made. The thing about him is, you can’t throw the ball over his head on deep routes. But he’s a very, very athletic guy who’s very strong.
what does he mean by that? when reading at first, I thought he meant that you can't overthrow him because of his speed. but, he throws the "But" in there next which seems to indicate that K-Wright can't reach up and grab high passes?
color me confused on this one. interpretor please.
I thought the same thing when reading that statement ... perhaps he is stating that the kid doesn't have a very big catch radius, I don't know?
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He's a burner who you can't throw over, but he's ALSO a tough inside route runner that catches everything within 10 yards with one hand. There.. I fixed it. 
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yeah, that's what I thought he was saying. Not just a straight line guy, he's a tough guy, too. But I've seen him play a number of times, so I already had that opinion of him. I could see why it would otherwise be confusing.
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Just finished watching it. I thought he looked pretty good. he did a good job of staying on his toes when he dropped back and showed improved footwork and added a little leg to his throws which gave him more punch on his passes. He has also tightened up his throwing motion a bit. He solidified his spot. A lot of guys revert to their old ways but you have to give him credit, he came a very long way from where he was at the bowl game to now. He was impressive in the strides that he has taken in such a short period of time. Kenny Wright looked great. He made some wonderful catches and his ability to run under the ball is as good as anyone's in this draft. Steve Smith lookalike. I will take Wright and Jeffery over Floyd and blackmon
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Man I wish we could have got this kid.
I seriously would contact the Colts and see if there is any way they would trade out of the #1 spot. a real NFL franchise QB would do so much for this team.
They did 10 days ago.
I'd do it again, and again,. and every day until the draft.
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Man I wish we could have got this kid.
I seriously would contact the Colts and see if there is any way they would trade out of the #1 spot. a real NFL franchise QB would do so much for this team.
They did 10 days ago.
I'd do it again, and again,. and every day until the draft.
It's water under the bridge man ... Let it go.
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If there's any way, I hope they are pursuing it. I don't expect them to be able to make a deal ...... but could you imagine the looks on the Redskins' front office types if we traded to 1 and took RG3?  
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I don't expect them to be able to make a deal ...... but could you imagine the looks on the Redskins' front office types if we traded to 1 and took RG3?
If we were to somehow swing a deal with the Colts (which would never happen), and we took RG3 over Luck, I'd officially lose all faith in the regime.
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Man I wish we could have got this kid.
I seriously would contact the Colts and see if there is any way they would trade out of the #1 spot. a real NFL franchise QB would do so much for this team.
We could have if the eggheads in Berea had given it a little thought rather than goof it up.
Idiots.
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Hell I still don't believe they made a huge offer for RG3 the first time around. I just can't get around the fact that Heckert is a diehard build through the draft guy. You just cant offer up 3 first and a 2nd and still sale the whole we are building this thing the right way speach. Whole situation was odd.
If they did, I am sure there was more than a little internal conflict. Is Homey stepping on Heckert's toes?
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I don't think that the case at all.
I think they both see what everybody else sees...a guy who has a real good chance to be extra special at the position and decided we had to get him, except we flubbed it up.
I have a feeling that is the move that runs those guys out of town. Maybe soon if Griffin has a great rookie campaign and Colt leads us to 5 wins.
This will be a great case study. The Skins give up 3 #1 picks(and a 2nd), and we give up nothing. We both had similar teams talent wise as evidenced by the records of each.
They spend in FA and we for the most part don't.
We will be able to see which team wins, and which doesn't over the next several years.
I am not predicting which one will. I am just saying it will be a case people can look at to see which method of team building is better.
I will say that from a fan standpoint, I'd feel better as a Skins fan right now than I do as a Browns fan.
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You sure are bitter about this RGIII thing. I hope you are not serious about running H/H out of town, blowing the whole thing up again, and starting over again.....
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I don't expect them to be able to make a deal ...... but could you imagine the looks on the Redskins' front office types if we traded to 1 and took RG3?
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I think it's an agree to disagree thing, but I still don't see how we flubbed it up.
What were we supposed to do? Offer more than two future firsts and a second? Where does that leave us?
With a talented but question-mark filled QB on a terrible offense with little ammunition. To even think about success down the road, you're talking about hitting big time on every single second/mid-round pick, and hoping that in the meantime the kid isn't ruined by bad habits acquired from playing behind a suspect line with little to no weapons.
I'm not really a fan of this regime thus far, but I'm very, very happy we didn't outbid the Skins.
I'd give up two firsts and a second to move up to 1 and take Luck, and even then I'd be very worried.
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The right QB can turn a team around. (offense anyway) The wrong QB will drag down the OL, the receivers, the RBs the TEs ......... and make all of them look far worse than they really are.
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Maybe I'm an idiot but I thought we offered them two first round picks this year and next years first and they turned us down.... Takes two to trade....
Good for him.... Now I hope the draft can get hear so I can stop hearing about how we're not gonna get rg3....
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You sure are bitter about this RGIII thing. I hope you are not serious about running H/H out of town, blowing the whole thing up again, and starting over again.....
We might have to. It's not that I want it.
They have to live with their decisions and or lack of action.
It's not a matter of being bitter. It's being upset we were all in for the guy but didn't think about what it was going to take, and we did want to be all in. The team identified QB as a weak link that had to be fixed and they had a great chance to do that but couldn't figure out it was going to take 1 more pick, as any moron could have figured out the Skins were going to do that since our 3 were better than their 3. You, or anybody else can't tell me had we felt the 2nd round pick was going to be the deciding factor, would of at that point said, no, that's too much. Nope...don't even go there. Once you are in for three #1 picks, a 2nd is chump change when it's a guy you are willing to get.
So now we sit with a QB who knows is going to be replaced at the earliest time. That's going to work well....Right.
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Homey messed up by speaking out. RG3 goes on to be star it will be well they should have offered more. RG3 sucks, it will be these idiots offered up more than 3 firsts for this turd.
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Homey messed up by speaking out. RG3 goes on to be star it will be well they should have offered more. RG3 sucks, it will be these idiots offered up more than 3 firsts for this turd.
I agree, he did mess up. The pressure is getting to him.
And I have said this before.....this is a no win for them. The guy works out, they are dead. The guy falls flat, everybody knows they wanted him bad but totally dumb lucked in to not getting him because they were too stupid to read the hand.
If the guy ends up sucking, we can laugh at the Skins all we want, but the fact remains he is the guy we really, really wanted. We can't pretend different, so we might as well have done what it takes to get him.
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See I think this one was a Holmgren move and not a Heckert move. Heckert, we inquired about Bradford but they were asking for the moon. WE inquired about trading up to #1 for Cam but it was a bit higher than we were willing to pay.
This year Heckert is just emphasizing building through the draft more than ever. We have our scouts circle Tannehill like Custer at Little big Horn. We are showing no interest. Then the peculiar report of a weird disinterest. Next we make an offer every bit as good as the Skins made.
Move screams Holmgren. If we went all in as he said, it was the Holmgren move.
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The right QB can turn a team around. (offense anyway) The wrong QB will drag down the OL, the receivers, the RBs the TEs ......... and make all of them look far worse than they really are.
I'm not exactly sure RG3 is that guy, especially not for us, where we stand (and taking into consideration what we'd have to mortgage to get him). I'm not saying he's not, either.
Look, we both agree that McCoy is a dud. We differ on RG3, but that's not the point.
I don't know exactly what you mean by 'turn around' but I'm assuming from some of your past posts (and I could be wrong) that you envision some scenario where we draft RG3 and win 8-10 games next season. And that, frankly, is a pipe dream.
Go down the list of QB's drafted in the first round in the last 20 years. The average of net wins with new QB's who start in the first round?
Zero.
The average of net wins with new QB's taken in the top five?
One.
If we were to have made the move to get RG3, we would likely still be looking at a 5-6 win season, staring down the barrel of 2 years without a first rounder (and one year of not picking until the third round).
To me, that's a massive gamble with little probability of success.
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The right QB can turn a team around. (offense anyway) The wrong QB will drag down the OL, the receivers, the RBs the TEs ......... and make all of them look far worse than they really are.
Go down the list of QB's drafted in the first round in the last 20 years or so. The average of net wins with new QB's who start in the first round?
Zero.
While I actually do agree with most of your post. This part stood out to me. I get averages and I'm pretty sure I agree with your math . However, *IF* RG3 turns out to be similar to Cam Newton, Carolina moved from 2 to 6 wins by adding him. This year, I would bet my next paycheck that the Colts will win more games this year than last *IF* Luck starts and stays healthy.
On average though most 1st round QBs in the past have been complete duds. I really do feel like RG3 will be something special in the NFL though.
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Maybe so my friend....and between the two, I like Heck over Homie.
It is known Homie put his thumb on Colt when he was drafted, so to be fair, I can't hold that against Heck.
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Maybe so my friend....and between the two, I like Heck over Homie.
It is known Homie put his thumb on Colt when he was drafted, so to be fair, I can't hold that against Heck.
I gave Colt a fair shot and until the last few games of the season, I kept it up. Where we drafted Colt and with the lack of players really wanting to play in Cleveland, have we had any better options? I guess we could have stuck with Jake or Seneca, but that doesn't seem all that stellar either.
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If there's any way, I hope they are pursuing it.
I don't expect them to be able to make a deal ...... but could you imagine the looks on the Redskins' front office types if we traded to 1 and took RG3?
If we were to somehow swing a deal with the Colts (which would never happen), and we took RG3 over Luck, I'd officially lose all faith in the regime.
See PDR, we can agree on something. Anyone talking about taking RG3 over Andrew Luck is just being stupid. I don't give a damn what Gil Brandt says.
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Just clicking.. How popular was RG3 this time a year ago? I don't really remember hearing too much about him then. It seems he went from a decent QB to the best in a long long time in just a couple of months. Luck has always been heralded, but has RG3? Just curious. Thanks.
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This time last year he was considered a mid round draft prospect of course that was at the receiver position lol.
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This time last year he was considered a mid round draft prospect of course that was at the receiver position lol.
He didn't say Tannehill
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Hey guys.. I look at it this way, If we HAD gotten the right to draft RGIII, He would have torn something the first day of camp and been out for two years.
We were actually spared the false hope and now can just muttle on like we have been the last ten years.
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what does he mean by that? when reading at first, I thought he meant that you can't overthrow him because of his speed. but, he throws the "But" in there next which seems to indicate that K-Wright can't reach up and grab high passes?
color me confused on this one. interpretor please.
It makes sense to me, It's talking about a play over the receivers head.
Imagine a pass thrown with little arch, but mid arch the rec, throws his hands above his head and catches the ball arms fully extended about half the distance the ball would have traveled through the air if it werent touched.
I think it's saying he doesn't make that catch well, but then I wouldn't expect that kind of a catch from any receiver less than 6'1.
How often does anyone ask a receiver to make that catch? Not very often. I saw Michael Jackson make one vs the Packers in 95 over the middle, and was wow'ed and it has stuck in my mind.
I think it's saying, if you throw the ball over his head on deep routes, he's not going to come down with the ball.
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I don't think that the case at all.
I think they both see what everybody else sees...a guy who has a real good chance to be extra special at the position and decided we had to get him, except we flubbed it up.
I have a feeling that is the move that runs those guys out of town. Maybe soon if Griffin has a great rookie campaign and Colt leads us to 5 wins.
This will be a great case study. The Skins give up 3 #1 picks(and a 2nd), and we give up nothing. We both had similar teams talent wise as evidenced by the records of each.
They spend in FA and we for the most part don't.
We will be able to see which team wins, and which doesn't over the next several years.
I am not predicting which one will. I am just saying it will be a case people can look at to see which method of team building is better.
I will say that from a fan standpoint, I'd feel better as a Skins fan right now than I do as a Browns fan.
Lol I cant believe you actually said this? Giving up your 1st round picks for the next 2 years and spending in FA (hows Washington done on that front in the past) is a case study to judge this org?
Ive seen your next couple posts where you say that 'if RG3 is great we messed up' 'if he flops we messed up'. How backwards is that thinking? I feel as it Tebow mania is taking over again. 
How about this, we made what we thought was a good offer. Washington trumped it. We get to keep our picks Washington gets to overspend in FA.
I know somewhere it was said what our offer was I didnt actually see what it was so cant speak to that but lets say we had gone over the top and offered the same. a 1st this year and the next 2 years 1st picks plus a 2nd this year.
We will have plenty of time to see who came out better once we see who our 4 players are across the next 3 years (as well as who the Rams get) and then compair to RG3.
Not to mention Im still of the feeling we are looking next year to get our QB Ive said it from the start. You can see the game plan in place.
Year 1 lame duck head coach- Keep him did good draft players and make trades for players that fit system but not his system.
Year 2 Get new head coach have strike let 3rd round pick QB take over blame lack of everything and give new coach experance.
Year 3 Blame 3rd round pick Qb for problems team is almost built now
Year 4- Get Franchise QB Coach should now be ready to actually lead team with 2 years under his belt.
Year 5- Make Playoffs (Yeah no playoff tickets for us from Mike lol their jobs are safe)
Year 6 - Go deep in Playoffs including first ever playoff game at CBS
Year 7 - Make Super Bowl.
If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
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What will fade into history first?
The Browns did not do enough to get Rg3 on the day the trade was made to give the Redskins the #2 overall pick.
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The lack of offseason and new coaching staff during a lockout at the start of the 2011 season is a legitimate excuse for current suckage from the quarterback.
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So now we sit with a QB who knows is going to be replaced at the earliest time. That's going to work well....Right.
It sure as hell should. If somebody tells me I'm not good enough, I'm going to prove them wrong, as would any man with some sense of pride, or confidence.
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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So now we sit with a QB who knows is going to be replaced at the earliest time. That's going to work well....Right.
It sure as hell should. If somebody tells me I'm not good enough, I'm going to prove them wrong, as would any man with some sense of pride, or confidence.
definitely drives up ur determination and motivation to succeed.
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Certainly we still know nothing really about how good a QB he'll be 3 years out but I'm just some goof with an internet connection in New Jersey checking old games and highlight clips and I could tell this kid was truly special. Yea, it's speculation but seriously, it's just dawning on everyone that this kid has "it". How do you not see it screaming at you? How did they NOT make the decision 2 months go that they needed to make it happen.
Water under the bridge. Yea, this is salt on future wounds but we've got to make the best of our sitiuation. Get Colt some quality weapons already.
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