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Watched the Blackmon videos. I liked how at the ~3:10 mark he runs a fade where he angles in a little to move the Cb then he moves to the corner giving Weeden room to put the ball. I liked how after he fumbled the ball in the KSU game that cost them the lead, he basically says give me the ball, I will win this game for us.

When I watch him play I can't help but see Terrell Owens. We take him at #4, Cordy Glenn at #22 then Turbin later and we have a very powerful team. Take Lamar Miller at #37 instead of Turbin and we have an offense that can score on any given play.

Yeah, Blackmon strikes me as the "give me the ball because I will win the game for us" kind of guy as compared to the "give me the ball because I need all the glory" type of diva. But, I'm biased because I really like the guy.

I just think that having him opposite Greg Little would just plain punish defenders. I think about how he tossed aside that DB from Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl. Sometimes on those slants, he just looks like he reaches out and snags that ball because he wants to start hurting people. I love that.

All that being said, I still think we go Richardson, and I have absolutely no problem with that.

IMO Justin Blackmon is the farthest thing from Diva.

Eh, as someone else pointed out, Braylon Edwards did nice things for kids, too.

I don't use that as a "diva" meter. JMHO

All WRs want the ball.

ALL OF THEM.

Marvin Harrison, the quietest WR, during an interview once said that in PRACTICE (talkin' bout practice!) that if he doesn't get the ball after a while he gets antsy...

Braylon's problem wasn't WANTING the ball, it was CATCHING it...

Yep. My cousin played QB at a small college, and even there, every single WR would come back after every single pass play and tell him how they were open.

3rd round is complete:

3rd round:

Pick # 64 Colts – Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
Pick # 65 49ers (from Rams via Cardinals) - Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
Pick # 66 Vikings - Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
Pick # 67 Titans (from Browns) - Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
Pick # 68 Bucs - Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
Pick # 69 Redskins - Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
Pick # 70 Jaguars - Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia
Pick # 71 Bills - Mychal Kendricks, LB, California
Pick # 72 Dolphins - Mitchell Schwartz, OG, California
Pick # 73 Dolphins (from Carolina via Chicago) - Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
Pick # 74 Chiefs - Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
Pick # 75 Seahawks – Sean Spence, LB, Miami
Pick # 76 Texans (from Eagles) - Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
Pick # 77 Jets - Mike Martin, DT, Michigan
Pick # Raiders – selected Terrelle Pryor in supplemental draft
Pick # 78 Chargers - Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
Pick # 79 Bears - Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
Pick # 80 Rams (from Cardinals) - Brandon Washington, OG, Miami
Pick # 81 Cowboys – Derek Wolfe, DT/DE, Cincinnati
Pick # 82 Titans - Ben Jones, C, Georgia
Pick # 83 Colts (from Bengals) – Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB, West Virginia
Pick # 84 Lions - Chris Polk, RB, Washington
Pick # 85 Steelers - Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama
Pick # 86 Falcons (Slide from #84) - Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
Pick # 87 Broncos – Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
Pick # 88 Eagles (from Texans) - Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
Pick # 89 Saints - Jeff Allen, OT, Illinois
Pick # 90 Packers - Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
Pick # 91 Ravens - George Iloka, S, Boise State
Pick # 92 49ers - Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
Pick # 93 Patriots - Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
Pick # 94 Giants - AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois
cPick # 95 Raiders - Nigel Bradham, OLB, FSU

Colts did a small uptrade to secure Irvin and Falcons FO missed their pick due to holidays (picked 2 spots later)

Still available:

RB: Pead, Turbin, Gray, James

WR: Adams, Wright, Criner, Toon, Broyles, Hilton, D.Jones, Childs, R.Matthews

S: Taylor, T.Robinson, Hardin

OL: Stephenson, Mosley, Potter, Bergstrom, McCants, J.Brown, Kelemete, Nix

DE: M.Jackson, Bequette, Guyton

DT: Randall, J.Howard, DaJ Harris, Roy, Forston

LB: K.Robinson, Wilber, Kaddu, D.Davis, Manning, T.Lewis, E.Acho, JM Johnson, Carder, Cole, Trevathan

CB: T.Wade, Bolden, Brooks, Bentley, L.Johnson, Judie, Prater

Next pick is nearing, huddle up:

4th round:

Pick # 96 Rams - Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
Pick # 97 Bengals (from Colts) – Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
Pick # 98 Vikings - James-Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
Pick # 99 Texans (from Bucs via Eagles) - Demario Davis, ILB, Arkansas State
Pick # 100 Titans (from Browns) - Terrell Manning, OLB, NC State
Pick # 101 Jaguars - Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
Pick # 102 Redskins - Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
Pick # 103 Dolphins - Marvin Jones, WR, Cal
Pick # 104 Panthers - Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
Pick # 105 Bills - Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
Pick # 106 Seahawks – LaMichael James, RB, Oregon

11 picks left...my top prospects left, in no order: RB Pead, RB Gray, WR Adams, WR J.Wright, WR Criner, WR Toon, WR Matthews, WR Hilton, S Taylor, S Robinson, DE Bequette, DE M.Jackson, OL J.Brown, OL Kelemete, OL Potter, OL Bergstrom, OL McCants, DT DaJ Harris, CB Brooks, CB Bentley, C Blake, OLB Kaddu

Other mostly higher ranked "names" I'm not as high on: QB Osweiler, CB T.Wade, OL Stephenson, OL Mosley, DE Massaquoi, DT Randall, TE Lad.Green

I really like ALL of the WR left A LOT....this WR class is really deep, we better get 2....my favs for this pick though are DE Bequette and RB Gray and some speed at WR in Adams and Wright...would love to somehow get 2 of those, maybe I'll try a trade up from 139 with the 7th rounder if they're still all on the board when I pick...lots of value left and I somehow regret having spend those 2 mid rounders to trade up....but Sanu was worth it, I think...Vikings GM told me he had a trade set up 1 pick after me and also offered a trade to the Titans for Sanu, so at least the timing was right to go get him

What are your favs? How would you rank my board?

I would go with- DE Bequette. You've done alot for the offense but the Browns could use a DE and an OLB.

I agree. Hard to go wrong with a DE who got 10sacks, 10TFL, 5FF last year.

Criner and Pead are not bad options if you continue to pick offense.

My favorite guys (in order) from your list (excluding the guys you don't like.. it's not my mock) are:

1. WR Juron Criner
2. CB Ron Brooks
3. S Brandon Taylor
4. WR Jarius Wright
5. DE Malik Jackson
6. DE Jake Bequette
7. WR Joe Adams
8. S Trenton Robinson

This is a tough decision. Though they're my favorite two guys I think you can add more value to the team skipping Criner and Brooks after having already added Sanu and Ron's teammate.

I'm assuming Devon Wylie is still available? Three slot receivers left that I like plus Hilton. I say that can hold off till the fifth.

Of course, you don't have a RB yet and looks like they're dropping like flies. I was tempted to say take one of the DEs if they're still available when your pick comes up, but I think the value on Pead is too high and our need at RB too great. Hard to argue that a backup/rotational DE would add more value than a guy who would be our starting RB. If Pead is gone, I'd just skip it until the comps start to roll in... one of Poole, Tubby's guy Baker, Herron, Ganaway, Creer, Bailey, or Ford.

Two guys who might be able to start as rookies at S are tough to pass up, as well. I guess this would be my order from that list as far as targets go:

1. RB Isaiah Pead
2. S Brandon Taylor
3. DE Jake Bequette
4. DE Malik Jackson
5. FS Trenton Robinson
6. WR Jarius Wright
7. WR Joe Adams
(7.5 WR Devon Wylie)
8. CB Ron Brooks
9. WR Juron Criner

I assume nobody likes Cyrus Gray?

He's the last "complete" RB imho....Pead comes close...not really convinced of Baker, who looks like a short yardage RB only...Hillman is worth a flyer, but is a change of pace only imho, Herron is not a good scheme fit (poor receiver), Ganaway cant catch and is meh to begin with so he's off my board...from a need-BPA view Gray makes the most sense...Gray was even used as a slot receiver and knows the WCO, so he's a scheme fit

I will probably have to punt WR until the 6th round comps, but will maybe take one if I can't get both Gray and Bequette...S is another need that has to wait...it's a shame that I still have to look our for needs on the 3rd day, should have really filled some more holes in FA...especially OLB was very doable...looks like Fujita/Maiava have to play opposite Gocong again next year



Read his profile from draftscout and tell me what's NOT to like? All I've seen and read about him tells me he is a smart RB who knows situations well and plays accordingly...

Inside: Lacks great size for running inside but owns a compact build with relatively thick upper body and strong legs. Runs hard every carry, side-hops to find creases inside and usually falls forward for an extra yard. Bulls through arm tackles to find the end zone or first down. Holds ball high and tight in close quarters. Lines up at fullback in short-yardage situations, churns legs and lowers pads to pick up tough yardage. Won't move piles at the next level, but can bounce off them to keep moving if allowed to.

Outside: Patient stretch runner, presses line but waits for a crease before heading upfield or cutting inside a block. Has enough straight-line speed to be a breakaway threat once past the second level. Sets up defender with a quick cut to either side without dancing, though he loses his balance when brain moves faster than his feet. Uses stiff-arm to hold off oncoming inside-out tacklers. Puts ball in outside hand on runs to either side. Improving his instincts and burst, able to avoid tacklers in the hole and turn on the jets once seeing open field. Waits too long to make a cut on some stretch runs, allowing inside-out defenders to get a hold of him.

Breaking tackles: Not the strongest back in the class, but difficult to bring down in the open field because his balance, active legs and strong upper-body allows him to run through arm tackles. Shows some shifty hips in space, can cut inside or stop short to break the ankles of would-be tacklers. Success as kick returner comes from quick cuts in open field and straight-line speed, also tough enough to bounce off poor tackle attempts and keep feet moving.

Blocking: Does more than get in the way as a pass protector. Stands up to linebackers in the backfield and will deliver a punch on quarterback draws. Lacks the size and tenacity to sustain, however. Willing to take a hit on play-fakes up the middle to protect the quarterback.

Receiving: Uses as slot receiver at times during his career because of his receiving skills, but mostly catches dump-offs in his current role. A threat on screen passes due to his speed and strength in traffic. Dances after the catch at times, does not show immediate acceleration once stopped. Inconsistent adjusting to poor throws, must secure the pass before making a move.

Intangibles: Sherman referred to Gray as a "guy you want to marry your daughter" because of his attitude and work ethic on and off the field. Accepts whatever role he is given on the team, supports teammates who may get more touches. "We" player, deflects praise to teammates.

EDIT: Broncos just picked Osweiler 108th

Pick # 108 Broncos (from Jets) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State

I think that Gray would be a fit for us from what little I know of him. We definitely have a huge, gaping hole at RB ...... so we better fill it somehow.

I wouldn't be upset with the Gray pick. Good call on Herron and scheme, he was never in Saine's class catching the ball. I disagree with you on Baker though. He ran sub-4.4 40 at his pro day and averaged 5 YPC while playing in the B1G.

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I will probably have to punt WR until the 6th round comps, but will maybe take one if I can't get both Gray and Bequette...S is another need that has to wait...it's a shame that I still have to look our for needs on the 3rd day, should have really filled some more holes in FA...especially OLB was very doable...looks like Fujita/Maiava have to play opposite Gocong again next year

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Well, you did trade away a 4th and a 5th which could have been those guys to move up for Sanu. Could have just taken Blackmon in the first and a CB in the 2nd-4th. This draft is so loaded at WR, CB, and RB it's unreal.

Claiborne was pure BPA but it helped the decision that there was ample of WR and RB depth...more than outside CB imho...lot's of those guys aren't good press fits...it's easier playing off coverage than learning press, press-bail

I don't see so many outside CBs...Fleming and Dennard are really the only high round CBs who project to the outside and did well in press....even Kirkpatrick who projects to do well but didn't play much press in College...Norman, L.Johnson, Bentley, Bolden in the middle rounds, sure...and there are plenty of Dimitri Patterson-like CBs who will start inside and can develop as a #2...but day 1 ready guys on the outside in our scheme? Slim pickings imho...lots more options for Tampa 2 or other Zone schemes though, that's right...but I mock the Browns, right?

Back to RB: Baker had a 3.9yd AVG and he caught 5 (!!) passes last year and 3 (!!) last season...Gray's AVG was consistently over 5 the last 2 seasons and he caught 30+ passes the past 2 season each...if he would have left last season, he'd have been a Top 100 lock...in terms of consistency and scheme fit it's not even close imho...think someone will buy low, as Gray played through a shoulder issue and gave away some carries to Christine Michael (great name btw ) and the fact that RB depth charts around the league are crowded makes RBs drop even more in the draft...

I think I talked myself into Gray due to position need and scarcity the rest of the draft (for what we need)

and I really, really LOVE Bequette, Adams, Wright...but we need a RB more than a RDE or slot WR for 2012...long term I think Bequette can play RDE..damn I want both somehow....I can trade up to 126/127 range with 139 and 211...slot WR will be a target for comp 6th as I think 1 or more of Matthews, Wylie, Page, D.Jones, Fuller, Posey, Streeter will still be there....Coale, White, Graham, Boykin, Maze, Brazill, L.Lewis and Edwards also as 7th round options....incredible WR depth....just another argument not to take Blackmon at 4

4th round:

Pick # 96 Rams - Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
Pick # 97 Bengals (from Colts) – Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
Pick # 98 Vikings - James-Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
Pick # 99 Texans (from Bucs via Eagles) - Demario Davis, ILB, Arkansas State
Pick # 100 Titans (from Browns) - Terrell Manning, OLB, NC State
Pick # 101 Jaguars - Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
Pick # 102 Redskins - Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
Pick # 103 Dolphins - Marvin Jones, WR, Cal
Pick # 104 Panthers - Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
Pick # 105 Bills - Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
Pick # 106 Seahawks – LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
Pick # 107 Chiefs - Dwight Bentley, CB, ULL
Pick # 108 Broncos (from Jets) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
Pick # 109 Redskins (from Raiders) - Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
Pick # 110 Chargers - Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
Pick # 111 Bears - James Brown, OT, Troy
Pick # 112 Cardinals - Malik Jackson, DE, Tennessee
Pick # 113 Cowboys – Philip Blake, C/G, Baylor
Pick # 114 Eagles - Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
Pick # 115 Titans - T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International
Pick # 116 Bengals – Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
Pick # 117 Lions - Josh Kaddu, OLB, Oregon
Pick # 118 Browns (from Falcons) - Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M

1a CB Claiborne
1b RT J.Martin
2a QB Weeden
2b WR Sanu
4 RB C.Gray

Next pick is #139 but will try to trade up to #127 with my last moveable pick #211 for DE Bequette if he's still there...otherwise I will let the board come to me with Criner, Matthews, Wright, Toon at WR, Robinson at FS, J.Howard, Forston, Roy and Harris at DT, Brooks and Wade at CB and several OL all still available

So Dj, how about a post with some mid-draft thoughts about what has transpired so far.

You took Claiborne at #4. Seeing how the draft has fallen would you choose one of the other guys? I am torn about which way we should go with this pick. Who we decide to take here will really shape the rest of the draft. I would certainly be more than fine with Mo but would love to get one of the offensive play makers as well.

Any regrets on trading up to get Sanu? I am not a Sanu fan and I certainly would not have traded up for him. Are you that sold on Sanu that you would give up 3(?) picks to go get him?

I look at round 4 and see a lot of Wr's that I like. I would not want to wait that long to upgrade the receiver corp but I would certainly look to take a 2nd Wr in round 4.

Anybody that you wanted that got snagged right before your pick?

First off, I have a trade in place with the Pats at 126 for 139 and 211...I will pick Bequette if he makes it there

I really love Sanu and wanted either him or DE Curry somewhere in the 2nd...Sanu is a more polished version of Little and at worst he'll become Cribbs imho but I think he has Colston/Nicks-upside, so need and ceiling-floor led me to him...we need speed at WR but we need an outside upgrade over Massa more than a slot upgrade over Norwood imho...Curry and Sanu really were my 2 BPAs since pick 22 to be honest, I picked Martin out of sheer need as I don't like Adams and wasn't sure if I can get Schwartz at 67...he did last til 72, so in hindsight I would have picked Sanu at 22, Weeden at 37 and would have missed out on Curry since he went before my deal...I would not have done the trade and would have taken Schwartz at 67 and probably Turbin or Gray at 100 and Bequette at 118...I would have missed out on both Sanu and Curry and that would have probably $%&@ me off...maybe I would have traded up for Schwartz then

Which one would you like better:

Actual:
1a CB Claiborne
1b RT Martin
2a QB Weeden
2b WR Sanu
4 RB Gray
4b DE Bequette (probable)

or hindsight:

1a CB Claiborne
1b WR Sanu
2a QB Weeden
3 RT Schwartz
4a RB Turbin/Gray
4b DE Bequette (probable)

I have only 4 comp picks left in my actual mock but would have the high 5th (WR Criner, J.Wright, D.Jones, Matthews or FS Robinson or DT Howard, Harris) and an extra 7th in my hindsight or maybe not since I probably would have traded back up into the 2nd to secure Schwartz

Right now I like my actual better because I got Sanu for better value

pick 4: For me it was always either Claiborne or Tannehill....I just couldn't get myself committed to Tannehill, probably because I had Weeden higher and closer to him than most...but also because I like the Weeden gamble more than a full blown committment to Tannehill...I think selecting Weeden at 37 doesn't stop us from going after another QB in the 1st next draft

I like both Richardson and Blackmon and would have no problems if we go that way...but Heckert better has a sound plan going forward...the problem for me really was that I didn't get off my 22nd pick...I wanted to trade down and THEN select Sanu/Curry/McClellin/D.Martin/J.Martin...I really don't like the value of most of the other 10-20 names slotted there...mostly underachievers or red flag filled guys...too high a bust percentage

I really would have liked to move down from either 4 or 22 to extract some additional value...and then go get the targets in the 40 to 120 range with that additional value

I think that were enough mid-draft thoughts I will look to add speed at WR and hope Page lasts till the 6th round comp picks...I might also add a punter but will go mostly BPA from now on as it doesn't make much sense to draft for need at 200+

Your choices just reinforce to me that I don't want us to pick Claiborne at 4.

You realize those are the same drafts with only Martin and Schwartz switched, right?

If you change your hindsight #22 pick to Kendall Wright who was available I would take that one. I think he can be the outside seed upgrade and play the DeSean Jackson role.

Good luck finding a day 1 ready CB that can play press...and that's what we need too or do you feel fine with Patterson 16 games on the outside (Brown is a rhetorical question and he's useless inside, too stiff/slow)...and let's hope Skrine holds up playing 60% of the snaps at Nickel-CB...and god forbid somebody goes down of those 3....we're looking at mid round rooks starting...or back to 33yo Sheldon

Again, I'm ok with most options at 4...it's all about how you play and handle the rest of the draft anyway...but without hindsight I value QB and CB over RB and WR..I would have preferred a small trade down and take whoever was left but I didn't get any offers, so I went BPA

As for Wright...I think he's somewhat overrated because of Wallace's and Desean's success...both were not drafted in the 1st for a reason btw....people want a speed option so badly that they forget that we haven't even 2 chain movers for the bread and butter underneath stuff...outside players have more value than inside guys...I know many consider Wright an outside guy too and I'm sure he can develop into one...but day 1 Sanu will look better on the outside than Wright, who did most of his damage inside at Baylor btw...he's not as polished as some might think he is

Boykin? Dennard? Brooks?

Kirkpatrick if he fell to 22?

How would you handle the contracts of Haden and Claiborne after their rookie deals are over? I can't see being able to keep both happy moneywise.

Wow, total bummer....the 49ers picked DE Bequette at 125, 1 pick before my trade up spot

Thanks for the encouraging words

Been away for a day but here's the update....I let the board come to me at #139 and lots of my targets have been picked late 4th/early 5th...at the end it came down to DT Howard and FS T.Robinson and I picked Robinson....after missing out on Curry and Bequette for DE due to other glaring needs I made sure I get one of my 3rd day favs..I liked Robinson early in the process and he did nothing to second guess myself, to the contrary he reportedly had a strong SR Bowl week, both practice and game and was 1 of the leaders of the Spartans' Top 10 D

Robinson is one fo the few pure coverage/deep half FS in this class and could be a nice complement to Ward...reports on Trenton's strengths/weaknesses vary heavily...some say he isn't a good tackler, others say he's pretty good at, but all agree that he's a willing tackler and that's at least the basic requirement for any S....some questioned his speed, but a good 4.54 forty (2nd fastest among S at the combine) and a decent 4.15 shuttle pretty much shut that up

A few "scouting" reports:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/trent-robinson?id=2532939

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1723480/trenton-robinson

http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/s/trenton-robinson/

http://draftace.com/blog/2012/04/14/trenton-robinson-scouting-report/

Update:

4th round:

Pick # 96 Rams - Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
Pick # 97 Bengals (from Colts) – Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
Pick # 98 Vikings - James-Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
Pick # 99 Texans (from Bucs via Eagles) - Demario Davis, ILB, Arkansas State
Pick # 100 Titans (from Browns) - Terrell Manning, OLB, NC State
Pick # 101 Jaguars - Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
Pick # 102 Redskins - Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
Pick # 103 Dolphins - Marvin Jones, WR, Cal
Pick # 104 Panthers - Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
Pick # 105 Bills - Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
Pick # 106 Seahawks – LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
Pick # 107 Chiefs - Dwight Bentley, CB, ULL
Pick # 108 Broncos (from Jets) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
Pick # 109 Redskins (from Raiders) - Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
Pick # 110 Chargers - Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
Pick # 111 Bears - James Brown, OT, Troy
Pick # 112 Cardinals - Malik Jackson, DE, Tennessee
Pick # 113 Cowboys – Philip Blake, C, Baylor
Pick # 114 Eagles - Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
Pick # 115 Titans - T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International
Pick # 116 Bengals – Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
Pick # 117 Lions - Josh Kaddu, LB, Oregon
Pick # 118 Browns (from Falcons) - Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
Pick # 119 Steelers - Trevin Wade, CB, Arizona
Pick # 120 Broncos – Tank Carder, LB, TCU
Pick # 121 Texans - Senio Kelemete, OG, Washington
Pick # 122 Saints - Ron Brooks, CB, LSU
Pick # 123 Patriots (from Packers) - Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
Pick # 124 Bills (from Ravens) - Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette
Pick # 125 49ers - Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas
Pick # 126 Patriots - Trevor Guyton, DE, California
Pick # 127 Giants - Lucas Nix, OG, Pittsburgh
cPick # 128 Vikings - Antonio Allen, S, USC
cPick # 129 Raiders - Tony Bergstrom, OT, Utah
cPick # 130 Ravens - Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
cPick # 131 Giants - Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State
cPick # 132 Packers - DeQuan Menzie, CB/S, Alabama
cPick # 133 Packers - Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
cPick # 134 Vikings - Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
cPick # 135 Cowboys - Junior Hemingway, WR, Michigan

5th round:

Pick # 136 Bengals (from Colts) – Audie Cole, LB, NC State
Pick # 137 Broncos (from Rams) - Duke Ihenacho, S, San Jose State
Pick # 138 Vikings - Rishard Matthews, WR, Nevada
Pick # 139 Browns - Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
Pick # 140 Bucs - Phillip Thomas, S, Syracuse
Pick # 141 Redskins - David Molk, C, Michigan
Pick # 142 Jaguars - Andrew Datko, OT, FSU
Pick # 143 Panthers - Kheeston Randall, DT, Texas
Pick # 144 Bills - Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
Pick # 145 Dolphins - Michael Egnew, TE, Mizzou

Opinions? Criticism? Feel free...

I'd be very happy with Robinson in the fifth. He was one of the three smoothest DBs at the combine in drills, and I like how he caught the ball. When he jumped it seemed purposeful and not obligatory. Nice pick.

i'd be bummed on missing out on Bequette as well, but a nice recovery to get Robinson who is both at a need position and a good value there.

5th round is complete, 6th already started 10-12 picks a day now:

Pick # 136 Bengals (from Colts) – Audie Cole, LB, NC State
Pick # 137 Broncos (from Rams) - Duke Ihenacho, S, San Jose State
Pick # 138 Vikings - Rishard Matthews, WR, Nevada
Pick # 139 Browns - Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
Pick # 140 Bucs - Phillip Thomas, S, Syracuse
Pick # 141 Redskins - David Molk, C, Michigan
Pick # 142 Jaguars - Andrew Datko, OT, FSU
Pick # 143 Panthers - Kheeston Randall, DT, Texas
Pick # 144 Bills - Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
Pick # 145 Dolphins - Michael Egnew, TE, Mizzou
Pick # 146 Chiefs - Donald Stephenson, OT, Oklahoma
Pick # 147 Bills (from Seahawks) - Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami
Pick # 148 Raiders - Hebron Fangupo, DT, BYU
Pick # 149 Chargers - Kyle Wilber, LB, Wake Forest
Pick # 150 Bears - Jaye Howard, DT, Florida
Pick # 151 49ers (from Cardinals) - Devon Wylie, WR, Fresno State
Pick # 152 Cowboys - Brandon Hardin, S, Oregon State
Pick # 153 Eagles - Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
Pick # 154 Jets - Chris Rainey, RB, Florida
Pick # 155 Titans - Josh Leribeus, OG, SMU
Pick # 156 Bengals - Justin Bethel, S, Presbyterian
Pick # 157 Falcons - Matt McCants, OT, UAB
Pick # 158 Lions - Jonathan Massaquoi, DE, Troy
Pick # 159 Steelers - Jarrett Boykin, WR, Virginia Tech
Pick # 160 Titans (from Broncos via Browns) - Akiem Hicks, DT, Regina
Pick # 161 Texans - Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
Pick # 162 Saints - Marcus Forston, DT, Miami
Pick # 163 Packers - Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
Pick # 164 Ravens - Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa
Pick # 165 49ers - Joe Looney, OG, Wake Forest
Pick # 166 Bengals (from Patriots) - Ryan Lindley, QB, SD State
Pick # 167 Giants - Emmanuel Acho, LB, Texas
cPick # 168 Raiders - Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State
cPick # 169 Ravens - Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor
cPick # 170 Colts - Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly

6th round

Pick # 171 Rams - Bryan Anger, P, California
Pick # 172 Eagles (from Colts) - Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State
Pick # 173 Redskins (from Vikings) - Edwin Baker, RB, MSU
Pick # 174 Bucs - Brad Smelley, FB, Alabama
Pick # 175 Vikings (from Browns) - Brett Roy, DT, Nevada

Still available:

WR: Page, K.Martin, D.Jones, Fuller, Posey, Coale, Benford, Cunningham, J.White, Maze, Talley, G.Robinson, L.Lewis, TJ Graham, Edwards

OL: Adcock, Carmon, Saulsberry, R.Miller, Watkins

DT: DaJ.Harris, Meatoga, Jean-Baptiste, T.Robertson, Anunoby

DE: Vernon, Alexander, Fugger, J.Smith, J.Miller

LB: Trevathan, T.Nielsen, B.Marshall, B.Lindsey (DE/OLB)

QB: Foles, Coleman, Moore

RB: Poole, Herron, A.Thomas

CB: Harris, Greenwood, Fletcher, Judie, Prater, Bolden, Tandy, Sensabaugh, Golden

I'd definitely grab Adcock at this point. He looked like a very good pass blocking OT all year long. I understand some of the issues between going from a shotgun spread to a prostyle for OL, but I can't believe he's not worth a gamble for at least depth in the 6th round.

Page, Martin, Coale, Maze, Graham all seem like fits at WR. Is Owusu from Stanford still available? Martin is a guy they've already brought in, so he would naturally be a possibility.

Bummer there are no decent LBs left. I think Trevathon is overrated.

Bolden could be a steal... really pushed down by injuries probably would have been a 2nd-rounder if he wasn't injured this year.

Is Kourtnei Brown still available at DE?

I wanted Zusevics for OL depth, but he was already picked, so Adcock is a possibility, but I'm even higher on Saulsberry, who is very versatile (can and has played any position except LT) and underrated imho

2 reports on him for those who are interested:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632352/quentin-saulsberry

http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/c/quentin-saulsberry/

Thus Adcock is my no2 OL, but I like him too....lots of WR I still like and would take a flyer on this late...really like Harris the FSU CB, perfect slot/dime CB with no2 upside down the road, good man CB that tackles...his 4.68 forty hopefully pushes him to me (6.81 3cone and 4.07 shuttle...he's athletic)...Bolden is the CB version of Broyles but I doubt he makes it to my picks...not much left for the front 7, so I might secure OLB Trevathan with 1 of those picks if he lasts

Yeah, both K.Brown and Owusu still around...you have anything on them? Haven't been on my radar much

I agree that I should look for speed now at WR...but damn, it'll be tough to pass on D.Jones, Posey or Fuller if they're still on the board

I'm torn on Trevathan...it's hard not to like him, very productive (I think 9 FFs last 2 seasons) but he reportedly struggles in coverage and is undersized to begin with...in a passing league that's not so good

I haven't really seen a lot of either of those guys. I just know that Owusu was productive at Stanford with a TON of speed. He's been getting some buzz on a bunch of different outlets as being somewhat underrated.

Kourtnei Brown was a reserve DE behind Andre Branch and Rennie Moore, but look at this week he had against UNC:

10/24/2011 - WEEK 8 ACC DEFENSIVE LINEMAN OF THE WEEK: Kourtnei Brown, Clemson, DE, Sr., 6-6, 255, Charlotte, N.C. Brown had two defensive returns for touchdowns in Clemson's 59-38 win over North Carolina. He made a leaping interception and returned it 20 yards for a touchdown to give Clemson a 24-10 lead, and picked up a fumble and ran 26 yards for a score in the third quarter, making him the first Clemson defensive player since 1954 to score two touchdowns in the same game. He was only the third FBS player to score two touchdowns by interception return and fumble return in the same game in the last 12 years. Later, Brown had his hands in on a third turnover as he deflected a pass that was intercepted by a teammate. He was also credited with two tackles. Brown was named National Defensive Player of the Week by the Walter Camp Foundation. - ACC football

Shows a ton of athleticism. Deflected or intercepted at least 2 passes in that game and a scoop and score as a backup college DE? He only had 2 sacks this year, so he wasn't a key member of their defense, but if you want to talk about a guy with a lot of potential, he seems to be one. Maybe he's a 7th-round (or 7th-comp) but he's piqued my interest.

I thought you had Posey completely off your board, so I didn't mention him. I think he would be quite a value at the end of the 6th(!). Remember how you were propping up Denarius Moore as a guy who lacked production due to crappy QB play? I have to say that Posey fits this as well. He was suspended for so long because of some stupid tattoos, came back and played the first game with seemingly no rust at all. The guy gets open all the time and catches just about everything with those Mickey Mouse gloves. Hi size and speed and ability to get open reminds me somewhat of Victor Cruz. The reports i read from the senior bowl said he was as good as anybody out there (at least on the north squad). He'd be my personal top WR target on that list as a slot guy.

If we've already got Little and Sanu, I don't think Dwight Jones and Fuller bring a lot to the team. Actually, I don't like Fuller at all. Drops too many passes. Not very quick. He's big, but that's about it.

Only saw one Kentucky game (on the SEC channel? or CBS Sports Network? whichever has the 'SEC Express') watching Trevathon, but he was very average and looks really small on the field. He was in on a number of tackles but was far from a difference maker in that game. Every time he'd either made the tackle or help out on one, the announcer would say "...Danny Trevathon" and I'd be thinking "What'd I miss? There was nothing special about that at all."

I loved Owusu, Stanford was a far better team with him, and Luck had real chemistry with him.

4.38 speed, decent size, and good hands.

He has had concussions the past 2 years, otherwise he is a second rounder.

I would drop a 6th or seventh on him in a heartbeat, if he wants to play, he is a good player.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631918/chris-owusu