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Next few days will be interesting with the stories coming out. This is soap opera week.
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yessir. lots of gossip and only 0.00001% of it true this week. basically, anything that comes out new this week should be considered false until it happens for real 
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So does that mean everything this week is rumor? And we shouldn't be allowed to post anything? 
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The one that has me is Leslie Frazier of the Vikings coming out right now and saying that left tackle isn't a "game changer."
Now I'm more certain than I ever was that the Vikings are going to take him, only because there isn't a really strong trade market so the Vike's will be stuck with Kalil.
We're nearing the point where the smokescreen's and games are finished...
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Soap opera weekly lol. Browns Jags rumors have been going for months with the Jags supposedly looking to trade up and now it is Browns looking to trade up to 22 lol. there will be a million of those types of rumors this week. Everytime one teams is looking to move up 10 minutes later they will be looking to move down.
Miami and the Browns both looking to trade up to #3. Browns targeting Blackmon & Weeden. Browns will take Richardson. Holmgren wants Tannehill. Lerner wants a QB. Browns worked out Brockers for Phily and Phily worked out Tannehill for the Browns. Eagles trading up to 4. Cowboys trading up to 4. Browns targetting Doug Martin. Browns targeting Merciless. Browns targeting Gilmore. I mean damn almost all of those rumors have come within the last week.
I have never seen this much stuff about a team picking 4th lmao it is crazy.
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Still think it's between Richardson and Claiborne.
The only difference is I now think it's 51/49 Claiborne instead of Richardson.
Clairborne, WR, RB, RT ... with a trade up in there somewhere because of a guy they really like. Could be a good haul. Just depends on who those other names are.
Haden and Claiborne w/ Patterson and Skrine. We might finally be putting the pieces together for a really nice D. Sometime in the next couple of years we get our Patrick Willis and we might start beating the Steelers and Ravens once in awhile. No knock on DQ. But to have a Ray Lewis/Patrick Willis type would be awesome.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I will be happy with Claiborne or Richardson. I will do a happy dance if we get Tannehill.
Jonathon Martin, Cordy Glenn, Whitney Merciles, Stephen Hill or Alshon Jeffery would make me happy at 22.
37, Doug Martin, Sanu or any of the guys i just listed at 22 would make me happy lol.
68, Swartz, Lamichael James, Robert Turbin Greg Childs and Lavante DAvid imho are your 3rd round steals
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if the owner truly doesn't believe the guy who coached the QB in college the past 4 years, then he is a complete maroon.
however, I think this story is make believe.
However if Tannehill goes to the Dolphins, then it put this rumor in the background of their selection ... True or not.
You just know that a percentage of Dolphin fans will say that he was Ross's pick. Probably the same ones who have some one other then Tannehill on their wish list. 
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Hey if we can get this thread to V4 I think Tannehills hands grow 3/8" for Toad 
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Or my head will explode, damn your eyes! (Where's that middle-finger smiley when I need it!)
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Mourg: I have never seen this much stuff about a team picking 4th lmao it is crazy.
While true, there's at least a reasonable explanation for it...
It's not every year when the first two teams are locked in to their QB's so soon. It's almost as if Luck and Griffin are outside of this draft, where it effectively has been the Vikings picking #1 and the Browns #2 for a month now.
And who says losing out the previous year doesn't pay
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Some interesting stuff today..PM me if interested..
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Tannehill may join Quinn and Rodgers, slide out of Top 20 Posted by Michael David Smith on April 24, 2012, 11:53 AM EDT Meineke Car Care of Texas Bowl - Texas A&M v Northwestern Getty Images Two of the deepest draft-day slides in recent memory came from a pair of quarterbacks, Brady Quinn in 2007 and Aaron Rodgers in 2005, who fell all the way out of the Top 20. At least one NFL executive thinks a third quarterback could join that group on Thursday night. Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill will be the third quarterback off the board, after Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III, but he could fall much further than most people expect, according to an executive who talked to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com. “The one that’s gonna shake things up is Tannehill,” the high-ranking AFC personnel chief said. “I don’t think a lot of teams think of him as a first-round pick. I can see a situation where he doesn’t go at all in the top 20. That’s really going to change things. You got a guy who started for a year and a half. He hasn’t really been, from a team perspective, a winning quarterback. He’s got good numbers, there’s a lot of things there (to like). But they lost a lot of games in the fourth quarter. Why is he not pulling things out? Why are they losing games?” If “a lot of teams” view Tannehill as less than a first-round pick, that could be a problem for him. However, it only takes one team to pull the trigger on Tannehill high in the first round. Many observers think the Dolphins — whose offensive coordinator, Mike Sherman, was Tannehill’s college coach — will be that team that takes Tannehill at No. 8. So Miami could be the team that stops Tannehill from falling too far. The flip side of that is if the Dolphins pass on Tannehill, it could scare other teams away. That’s a scenario being floated by another NFL decision maker. “If Miami doesn’t grab him, and they got Mike Sherman there, the teams behind them are going to start questioning, what the hell are we doing taking him?” he said. “If his own coach won’t take him, why are we taking him?” Tannehill will hope that’s a question no one needs to ask on Thursday night. web page ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Man if we could walk out of the draft with Richardson at 4 and Tannehill at 22 woooo hoooo. When reports came out that the Phins owner was pushing Tannehill, I thought that might be enough to talk them out of taking him lol Soft skinned owner and GM. Chiefs will go Poe or Decastro. Seahawks have probably already printed up Kuechly jerseys. Phins pass we could get him at 22.
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Man if we could walk out of the draft with Richardson at 4 and Tannehill at 22 woooo hoooo. When reports came out that the Phins owner was pushing Tannehill, I thought that might be enough to talk them out of taking him lol Soft skinned owner and GM. Chiefs will go Poe or Decastro. Seahawks have probably already printed up Kuechly jerseys. Phins pass we could get him at 22.
I don't think it will really matter Mourg if the stuff that is being said is true. If we don't have him with a first round grade, Heckert was pretty clear about not straying from the board. That doesn't even take into consideration where they presumably have Weeden and Tanny respectively on their board. I think that the apple of their eye is reuniting Blackmon and Weeden.
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I dont like Blackmon and I wouldnt take Weeden until the 3rd or later so that probably means we will take both lol
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You will like him after he posts multiple 100 plus yard receiving games and is a difference in our offensive output and win total.  It's a toss up between Weeden and Tannehill and I guess they like Weeden more. Neither are first round QBs so it is irrelevant.
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I honestly do not see why anyone would consider Blackmon as a 1st round prospect. He isn't big and he isn't fast and he drops a lot of balls. Mangini would have loved him lol.
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I don't understand where you get he drops a lot of balls. Have you happened to notice how many receptions he has had? Jerry Rice wasn't big or fast but he excelled in the WCO and so will Blackmon. He plays big and fast..don't get yourself too wrapped up in combine stuff. When you turn the tape on that is what matters. I don't see how you can think so highly of Tannehill but don't consider the best Receiver in College football a first rounder. There is not one GM that agrees with that assessment. He is a playmaker and a game changer and scores TD's. Everything that Heckert and Holmgren want. Roddy White is 6'1 and 207 and ran a 4.45 40. He leads the league in drops but also hauls in a ton of passes and scores TD's and changes games.
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Tannehill may join Quinn and Rodgers, slide out of Top 20 Posted by Michael David Smith on April 24, 2012, 11:53 AM EDT Two of the deepest draft-day slides in recent memory came from a pair of quarterbacks, Brady Quinn in 2007 and Aaron Rodgers in 2005, who fell all the way out of the Top 20. At least one NFL executive thinks a third quarterback could join that group on Thursday night. Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill will be the third quarterback off the board, after Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III, but he could fall much further than most people expect, according to an executive who talked to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com. “The one that’s gonna shake things up is Tannehill,” the high-ranking AFC personnel chief said. “I don’t think a lot of teams think of him as a first-round pick. I can see a situation where he doesn’t go at all in the top 20. That’s really going to change things. You got a guy who started for a year and a half. He hasn’t really been, from a team perspective, a winning quarterback. He’s got good numbers, there’s a lot of things there (to like). But they lost a lot of games in the fourth quarter. Why is he not pulling things out? Why are they losing games?” If “a lot of teams” view Tannehill as less than a first-round pick, that could be a problem for him. However, it only takes one team to pull the trigger on Tannehill high in the first round. Many observers think the Dolphins — whose offensive coordinator, Mike Sherman, was Tannehill’s college coach — will be that team that takes Tannehill at No. 8. So Miami could be the team that stops Tannehill from falling too far. The flip side of that is if the Dolphins pass on Tannehill, it could scare other teams away. That’s a scenario being floated by another NFL decision maker. “If Miami doesn’t grab him, and they got Mike Sherman there, the teams behind them are going to start questioning, what the hell are we doing taking him?” he said. “If his own coach won’t take him, why are we taking him?” Tannehill will hope that’s a question no one needs to ask on Thursday night.
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But if it was only the media that thought he was a first-round pick, then is it really falling?
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I'm not a Tannehill fan at all but if he fell to #22, I'd really, really consider it... especially if we're looking to make the epic Weeden mistake in the 2nd round otherwise.
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I've always liked Tannehill - i'd be more comfortable with him at 37, but 22 would not be terrible.
4 - Kalil (with the rumors that the Vikings will take Claiborne) 22 - Tannehill 37 - Jeffery (Trade up 67 and 100 for 55) 55 - David Wilson
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It is in the eyes of the media.. see how that works? 
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I don't understand where you get he drops a lot of balls.
That is something you say and hope it sticks if you don't want a guy for other reasons...
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Hell he had drops at the combines and at his proday, so don't act like I make this stuff up. He had a lot of drops throughout the year as well. As for measurables, when you take a receiver in the top 5 you are drafting an elite receiver so shouldnt an elite receiver be big, fast strong and have very good hands. Getting a free release in college against 165lb corners doesnt work in the NFL.
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Hell he had drops at the combines and at his proday, so don't act like I make this stuff up. He had a lot of drops throughout the year as well. As for measurables, when you take a receiver in the top 5 you are drafting an elite receiver so shouldnt an elite receiver be big, fast strong and have very good hands. Getting a free release in college against 165lb corners doesnt work in the NFL.
Neither does throwing against Defenses that have them or are ranked in the bottom of the NCAA but that doesn't stop you from pimping Tannehill. You take a guy on what he has done at college and what he can bring to your team and how it translates. I will say it again..Roddy White is 6'1 207 and ran a 4.45. He was drafted in the first round and has been to 3 Pro Bowls and is a First team All Pro. The theory you have about Blackmon not translating to the NFL or that you have to be a certain size to be selected in the top 5 is borderline Al Davis mentality.
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I agree.
I think Blackmon has All-Pro upside. I am worried about peripheral stuff but not worried about his production on a football field.
He doesn't have elite height, size or athleticism. But he has a certain je ne sais quoi that I'll call electricity with the football in his hands that would be lethal in the WCO.
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How awesome would it be if we had Torrey Smith right now what a perfect complimentary pair that would be.
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Well, if that's what you want we could draft Hill with Blackmon, but I think that K. Wright would be a better match, myself.
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TAnnehill will be on Gruden's QB camp at 5 on ESPNU
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Taping it to watch tonight. Love to hear your thoughts.
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Some good stuff. His intelligence just jumps out at you. Kid is going to be a very good one at the next level. Seeing those 18 yard out routes are just wow when our QB cant throw the 7 yarder.
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Some good stuff. His intelligence just jumps out at you. Kid is going to be a very good one at the next level. Seeing those 18 yard out routes are just wow when our QB cant throw the 7 yarder.
Actually that is the part I didn't see was his intelligence. I watched every one of those QB Camps and Tannehill took longer and was less in depth than any other QB. Luck has intelligence that jumps out at you, Griffin seemed like he was winging it. We all know McCoy can throw the 7 yard out and the 25 yard out. 
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Actually that is the part I didn't see was his intelligence. I watched every one of those QB Camps and Tannehill took longer and was less in depth than any other QB. Luck has intelligence that jumps out at you, Griffin seemed like he was winging it. We all know McCoy can throw the 7 yard out and the 25 yard out.
+1 I saw what you saw. I don't see the intelligence factor/experience.
As far as Blackmon... Mourg.. what is elite size and speed to you? The kid is 6'1" something and caught 260 balls the past few years in college, ran 4.45. He is strong and is known for being physically dominant over corners. Not sure why u hating so much but steady pimping a guy w no experience and rated 3rd best QB in is conference.
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Because Tannehill is such a strong closer! Get him into the 2nd half with a lead and watch out, or is that wake up? Never do get those two right.
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rated 3rd-best QB in his conference in this draft class you mean? Because he had the 6th(!)-highest QB rating for Big XII QBs and the 7th-highest completion percentage in the Big XII this year.
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I honestly do not see why anyone would consider Blackmon as a 1st round prospect. He isn't big and he isn't fast and he drops a lot of balls. Mangini would have loved him lol.
I see him as a 1st round propspect....I'd take him at 22, not at #4.
And we won't. We will take Richardson at #4 unless somebody trades with the Vikes...which will probably happen.....we seem to be good at getting "Skinned" at the last minute....yes, pun intended.
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I just hope you guys aren't too upset if we take Blackmon on Thursday. He really is a heck of a player.
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