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I said I would have the link and even said please do not delete. I'm not the kind of person to make up rumors.
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Wow, not really surprising I guess. Never understood why he never did much here.
He was one of the best in the business when he got here.
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Hurts to lose a guy like that, he always had so much energy and pop to him. The one thing I remember is that he always wanted to hit guys. But know it is Vicker's turn to step up into the spotlight and take the load, so I think he's ready to do his job. But it's sad to see Smith go.
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I did my roster earlier this year for 2007 and I had Vickers starting at FB... This isn't a surprise for me, the coaches supposibly love Vickers (hopefully not as much as Carthon)
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I like Smith but I can't say I disagree with the move. Somebody said in another thread about letting Russell go to free up a roster spot... well if we need roster spots, why in the world are we carrying TWO fullbacks who seldom touch the ball... and we have a bigger power back... didn't make sense to me.
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Well, lets see what Vickers has, not much of a choice.. He didn't do bad anyways, atleast something to build from..
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I will repeat it here...
T. Smith is a great lead blocker. But, that is it. He is one-dimensional. The regime wants versatile players.
I called it 6 months ago. Vickers was drafted for a reason. The Browns didn't draft Vickers for depth at the FB position. He was drafted to be 'the guy'.
Vickers can block, carry and... throw the ball. 
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I said I would have the link and even said please do not delete. I'm not the kind of person to make up rumors.
Do NOT start a thread without a link. No rumors, period. This is the second time you have started a rumor thread today. Don't do it again.
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HE was one diminsional..strickly a blocker and even when we needed that he was used much..of course one of our other RB's never learned to run behind a FB..cough..thats Green , where ever he is..
This will mean the use of Vickers as BALL CARRIER and a blocker/pass catcher..
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Sorry I didn't have the link right then I was posting it with the info in hand but because of the" RULES" I had to wait until it became public.
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Sorry I didn't have the link right then I was posting it with the info in hand but because of the RULES I had to wait until it became public.
You did post it before you had a link. In the future, do not start a thread without the link. If you have any further questions, please PM me.
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Damn i remember his quote frm couple from couple of years back...
"I just want to hit people" or somethin like that.... does anyone have it? good stuff.....thanks for the awesome memories T SMITH.... the hit he put on Ray Lewis...good stuff among many other good blocks...
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Wow, not really surprising I guess.
Smith is a one dimensional blocker who doesn't have a place on a team that needs to be multi-dimensional. I'm glad he's gone, as he wasn't the force this past season that he was advertised to be in the past. In his defense, he often had to choose between multiple guys to block because the line couldn't figure it out, but he can't catch, can't run, and really wasn't that effective out in space.
He's a good guy for an offense that only needs a fullback to run-block. That isn't us, and I'm thankful for that. Now the interesting question is this: Are we really going to reflect the Chargers offense? We just cut a fullback that's essentially the same as Lorenzo Neal............
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Good. I'm glad he is moving on.
I liked the way the guy talked. I liked him his first year here. After that, I don't think he was what he was advertised. I don't think he is nearly as good as a lead blocker as Neal. Not even close. In fact, the last two years, I think his blocking was substandard.
As noted, he was one-dimensional and he hurt the offense more than he helped it. I am looking forward to seeing Vickers play the position. And as much as I bad-mouthed RD, I think he could have played there some and also some at RB. I still disagree w/trading him for Tim Carter.
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Wow, not really surprising I guess.
Smith is a one dimensional blocker who doesn't have a place on a team that needs to be multi-dimensional. I'm glad he's gone, as he wasn't the force this past season that he was advertised to be in the past. In his defense, he often had to choose between multiple guys to block because the line couldn't figure it out, but he can't catch, can't run, and really wasn't that effective out in space.
He's a good guy for an offense that only needs a fullback to run-block. That isn't us, and I'm thankful for that. Now the interesting question is this: Are we really going to reflect the Chargers offense? We just cut a fullback that's essentially the same as Lorenzo Neal............
I still think we are going to be more like the Redskins offense(that made me throw up in my mouth). Maybe Chud can utilize Vickers like Chris Cooley is utilized.
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Sorry I didn't have the link right then I was posting it with the info in hand but because of the RULES I had to wait until it became public.
You did post it before you had a link. In the future, do not start a thread without the link. If you have any further questions, please PM me.
If I read the rules correctly, the rule is to: "cite a source" not post a link. There is a difference.
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I hope Vickers can step up his blocking. In his limited play last year, I did not see anything outstanding from him (blocking, that is).
Also... Living in Crackmore, I've seen a lot of Jamal. He is a much more effective runner with a fullback in front of him. It gives him time to square his shoulders and go. Without one, he tends to stutter-step and never get squared to the line.
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This is a bit of a downer as I thought he was one of the best FB in league. Never thought we used him correcttly though esp under Davis. I always thought the Browns lacked a big back that on the goalline could punch it in and when we signed him I thought he was going to fill that role.
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well Toad, you are glad he;s gone,, so is Vers,, I agree, if they weren't going to use him to do what he's good at , then yeah, he's just a roster spot being wasted..
But I don't 'think there is anything particularly wrong with Smith,, just a bad fit going forward..
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I don't think he blocked as well as advertized. The writing was on the wall last year.
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The most overhyped bum that has dawned a uniform in recent memory. I swear he had one decent game against the Ravens and that was it. I am glad he is off of the Browns welfare system.
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There isn't anything "wrong" with Smith. In an offense where his one single job is to pop his assignment and open a crack for his running back, he's as good as there is in the league. Problem is, outside of that, he has no uses.
He did well for Droughns when the line was decent, but when the blockers create more than one guy for him to hit and the offense calls for him to catch passes, he's a dud.
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It is about time. The guy was a waste of money and a roster spot.
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this is directed at U and Vers .... on the surface i could really care less about the move .. but what bothers me is were now sending out mixed messages .. AGAIN ... we sign Lewis who NEEDS a FB .. then we cut his FB .. *LOL* .. i gotta *L or i'd cry ... it makes no sense ...
I like vickers but he is not now nor will ever be near the blocker that Smith is .. not even close .. so why bring in Lewis if u know were gonna cut his FB ..
i guess this just reinforces that Lewis is one and done ... thats all i can garner with this move ... but i'm not sure why u wouldn't keep Smith around for another year just to help Lewis out ...
*shrugs shoulders* ...
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he was a square peg in a round hole here ... just like Garcia ...i just thought the signing of Lewis meant we'd move more toward being a square peg this year ... since he NEEDS A FB ...
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he was a square peg in a round hole here ... just like Garcia ...i just thought the signing of Lewis meant we'd move more toward being a square peg this year ... since he NEEDS A FB ...
Why does he need a fb? Besides, T. Smith plugged more holes than D-linemen did. He was horrible.
you had a good run Hank.
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I'm a bit sad that Smith got released due to the fact that he's a hard-working, blue-collar guy who loved to play smash mouth football. We need more of that toughness on our team.
That being said, there's no need to carry two fullbacks on the roster. We can use that spot on another LB. Good luck finding a better fit Terrelle.
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*L* ... actually smith hit more of our OLmans backs than he did DLman or LBers but that wasnt his fault ..
Lewis LOVES his FB and prefers to run behind them ... its no coincidence that the Rats got rid of Obaydeju (their blocking FB) like 5 mins after Lewis signed with us .. *L* ..
watch how their O changes with McGahee .. ALOT MORE one back sets ...
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If Vickers can't do it......maybe we should draft Brian Leonard, Rutgers FB.
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*L* ... actually smith hit more of our OLmans backs than he did DLman or LBers but that wasnt his fault ..
Lewis LOVES his FB and prefers to run behind them ... its no coincidence that the Rats got rid of Obaydeju (their blocking FB) like 5 mins after Lewis signed with us .. *L* ..
watch how their O changes with McGahee .. ALOT MORE one back sets ...
To be honest, I think with Vickers back there, we have a running threat with both backs. Vickers I think also moves a lot better than Smith. However I do agree that Smith was also running into O-linemen. I still like Vickers upside though.
And for McGahee is going to be a huge bust behind that line.
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And as much as I bad-mouthed RD, I think he could have played there some and also some at RB. I still disagree w/trading him for Tim Carter.
I kinda think RD's ticket out of here was his recent off-field issues and the fumbles. But sharing the carries he and Lewis would compete with each other on every carry. That could've gotten interesting.
As for Smith, I really like the guy. But as a player he didn't seem as daunting nor intimidating as he did early on. Being a throw-back type FB his skill set just didn't match what our offense, (whatever it is  ), needs out of the position.
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Good guy had some tough times while he was here. Lost his dad.
Vickers was said to be getting better and better with his blocking...the kid hits hard and fast which might be a key. Also Vickers is a good weapon himself with screens and swing passes.
And we all know he can throw a Halfback pass 
Writing was definately on the wall.
Diam....also expect a lot of 2 TE sets as well...don't forget Dinkins is one heck of a blocker 
Another Terrell bites the does *L*
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we sign Lewis who NEEDS a FB .. then we cut his FB .. *LOL* .
Losing some blocking ability but gaining versatility from the position is how I view cutting Smith for Vickers. As you noted, since Lewis is a one-and-done kinda guy (more or less) I don't know that keeping Smith really did that much for us, since I think we're gaining in the versatility department.
Here's my problem with Smith (it's always been my problem): With him in the game, that's one less threat that a defense has to consider. I agree that it probably doesn't help Lewis, but if Lewis still has anything left, this downgrade in the run-blocking department shouldn't matter. Besides, do we really think Lewis is gonna get 300 carries this year? I sure don't.
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If Vickers can't do it......maybe we should draft Brian Leonard, Rutgers FB.
...and we reportedly LOVE this guy.....he is a RB/FB tweener, but I see him as a RB....we can´t "afford" him but if we somehow get another 2nd rounder I´d like to pick him up
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I agree that Lewis does seem to be the type of back who needs to run behind a FB. I just thought Smith wasn't very effective the last two years. I know Vickers is smaller, but Richie Anderson was a very good FB in front of Martin for years, and he is even smaller.
Who knows?
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Here's my problem with Smith (it's always been my problem): With him in the game, that's one less threat that a defense has to consider
Heres my problem with Smith short yardage and goaline i swear the dude never freaking hit anyone 80% of the time. He is the only player on this team that ever went into the endzone untouched and thats not a good thing for a lead blocker lol It wasnt his one dimension being an issue he had no dimension.
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forgive me, but I don't remember, who was his full back in Baltimore that opened up so many holes for Lewis? I'm just trying to remember and frankly, the name isn't coming to me.
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