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Here's film for Michigan, Iowa, Washington, Ohio U, and Oklahoma as well as the plus/minus film from Oklahoma State, Mizzou and Oklahoma -- Michigan, Iowa and Oklahoma have some top quality lines.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5CYjR4E2-kk
http://www.youtube.com/v/-ddWVvAthDU
http://www.youtube.com/v/Dq1lTNbxGF4
http://www.youtube.com/v/drK08dhiDIE
http://www.youtube.com/v/Nwra0ZN3VyQ

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~Lyuokdea

One thing I'm sure of is that there isn't enough quality OT's to go around and teams will have to maneuver some to make it happen out of the top 10 picks.

From a PA standpoint Glenn makes the most sense to me for our need at RT, but he's not going to fall as some of a handful of prospects do every year and you pointed out some possibilities to do so this year.

I've seen him Mocked to go pick #22 or pick #23, but I think that's wishful thinking.

I know we all seem to have our eyes fixed on the first pick, but we just have to fill that void. Where not going to the spread offense any time in the foreseeable future ... We will be drafting the Best Position Attributes towards our WCO and 43 defense.

So many needs and never enough picks.

Just watched the Michigan cut up. Did he have 20 tackles before the end of the first half?

I just like how this guy plays the game. Smart, instinctual, quick and when he tackles he just doesn't miss.

Acutally he had his 14th tackle including a sack and many tackles on the elusive Denard Robinson two minutes into the third quarter.

I agree that he is easily washed out by blockers, but I also think he closes on the ball exceptionally well. What we need is someone who isn't going to make Jared Cook look like Carl freakin' Lewis and who will make a tackle. He is a very solid tackler, but he definitely needs to be kept clean.

From the little bit that I have seen I kind of like the Wagner kid out of Utah St. Anybody see enough of him and David to compare and contrast?

Amazing quickness and instincts. Always found the ball when he wasn't blocked (which was surprisingly often). That must have been by design. When blocked he got washed out.

He's a true 4-3 OLB who has great instincts and quickness but will struggle in the NFL when blockers get near him. Looks like a 2nd round grade to me. In a physical division he might be out of place.

He looks like a good player, but I'd rather use #37 to fix an offensive line hole.

I hope we don't draft David. I've seen enough of him to know that he was a decent College LB that will struggle mightily in the Pros. I don't want another LB that makes tackles 10 yards down field tackling guys from behind and struggles against the run. Just watching him, when he is blocked he gets taken completely out of the play and often ends up on his rump getting pushed over by Linemen and TE with ease. He is pretty good in Coverage and is usually in position and seldom overplays the ball. He is strictly a WLB in a 4-3 and 3rd round pick at best possibly sliding to the 4th. At 6' and barely 230 he will have to be a student of the game to overcome his physical limitations. He will not be an improvement against the run which is our biggest area of need. I would much rather have Nigel Bradham who is more athletic, explosive and taller with long arms. I think he is a better player and projects to the NFL level better with a higher ceiling. I try to envision David trying to cover Gronkowski or some of these better TE in the NFL and it is not a good vision or match up.

I like Nigel Bradham but he is definitely not more explosive than David.

I think he is..the guy plays 100 mph and is a playmaker..Just my personal preference. I don't think David is explosive at all. I think he plays well within the system..explosive is not a word I would use to describe him. More Controlled and smart and even though he is smaller is slower and not nearly as athletic.

The back end is so loaded in weakside backers for the 4-3 that we could take a couple and have a really good chance of hitting on both.

No real proper place to put this, but nbcsports has a video up (not sure I should post vids) talking the draft. They think the Vikes won't be able to trade out of #3 and are stuck taking Kalil. Like that's a bad thing for them, hehe. They go on to say we are hoping a sucker comes along and absolutely has to have Tannehill so we'd do a trade, calling Ryan a more athletic McCoy who is a developmental guy. They think Richardson is a no-brainer.

Well, screw it, here's the vid:

msnbc vid

The overall chatter is starting to fully back Richardson over anyone else.

Glad to see the talking heads are starting to parrot my side of things.

Yea.. we've been playing "what if's" for so long, scheming about double and triple trades.. sliding back, then up etc etc.. LOL It will probably be just take who's there at your pick for the first 15 or so players. Then we could see a few moves.

Ronde Barber says Bucs “probably” will take Morris Claiborne
Posted by Mike Florio on April 13, 2012, 10:35 PM EDT
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Earlier today, Rams running back Steven Jackson said he’d “stand on the table” to advocate the selection of receiver Justin Blackmon with the sixth overall pick. If Blackmon makes it past the Browns at No. 4, there’s a good chance he’ll get past the Bucs at No. 5.

Tampa Bay cornerback Ronde Barber told WQYK-AM on Friday that the Bucs have their eyes on cornerback Morris Claiborne.

“When I was deciding to come back, I had plenty of meetings with Mark [Dominik], and phone conversations with Mark, they told me they were bringing a guy in [cornerback Eric Wright],” Barber said, via JoeBucsFan.com. “I was like, ‘That’s good. We need it.’”

When host J.P. Peterson said that the Bucs might draft Claiborne, Barber said, “We probably will.”

Barber explained that he doesn’t know much about Claiborne. “I haven’t watched any film of him,” Barber said. “I don’t know how he plays or anything. He was actually in our [secondary] room. They did those little unofficial [predraft] visits or whatever. He’s a good kid. He looks good. He looks the part. Everybody’s high on him.”

The Bucs had better hope the Vikings or the Browns aren’t even higher on Claiborne, or they won’t get a crack at him. web page

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=6238

- Sources tell me the Cleveland Browns are looking hard at Keyshawn Martin in the third/fourth round as a slot receiver/return specialist.

Speedy slot-WR with returner skills

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/keshawn-martin?id=2532900

Overview

Martin is an explosive mover who is quick off the snap. A two-year starter for Michigan State and productive after short catches, he can take a bubble screen the distance. Athletic enough to be the superior guy against most DBs. He is a very good speed-variance route runner who can keep corners on their heels and toes. He has fourth-round value.
Analysis

Strengths
Martin is good at varying his speed. He can make ridiculous moves with his feet while still running full speed. He is explosive when moving off the ball and gets to top speed very quickly. This is usually how he dials up his routes, as he is into them before the corner is even ready. He uses this same foot quickness to get open at the top of routes. He has the speed to be a deep threat at the next level. He will work a lot of screens looking to get behind blocks of bigger receivers outside.

Weaknesses
Martin is uninspired when it comes to blocking. Despite decent size, he isn't very strong and just looks completely uninvolved. The same can be said when going across the middle; he is unreliable with defenders draped around him and needs to be completely open to finish the play.

Peter King had some pretty good nuggets in his MMQB.

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The Eagles don't want to trade up from 15 to anywhere between three and eight. It'd cost too much, and I sense their interest in Tannehill has been overstated. Philadelphia has sniffed around the quarterback position through the offseason, which could be a sign they've cooled on Michael Vick as their long-term solution at the position, and the Eagles have been linked to the Texas A&M quarterback because they sent quarterback coach Doug Pederson to the school to work out Tannehill two weeks ago. The Eagles might pay something to move up for Tannehill, but it won't be much, and the move won't be far.

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In the unlikely event Tannehill makes it out of the top 10, I believe he'll be the 11th overall pick. That spot belongs to the Chiefs. I don't see the Chiefs taking Tannehill. I see Kansas City taking the best offer for the pick, and there will certainly be offers for that pick if Tannehill slips. Still, the most likely scenarios are Tannehill to Cleveland at four or Miami at eight. But why 11? Because teams around the league know how much Seattle loves Tannehill. And you can write this down: If Tannehill were to be there at 12, Seattle would take him, even though the Seahawks just paid medium dollar for Matt Flynn in free agency. That's how much Seattle loves him. "At Tannehill's workout,'' one source told me, "[coach] Pete Carroll was giggling like a schoolgirl watching him throw. His attitude was like, 'What are we even doing here? He'll never be there for us.' ''

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Jeff Fisher loves Trent Richardson, and the impact of the Rams ending up with the Alabama running back would be huge. First, the Rams would presumably either trade or release Steve Jackson if this happens. I don't see them paying Jackson $7 million in 2012 to share the job with a player certain to eclipse him soon.

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South Carolina cornerback Stephon Gilmore, the second corner on the board now that Janoris Jenkins' character has knocked him out of the first round, could go anywhere from 7 to 27, defensive tackle Michael Brockers from 9 to 25.

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In the article he also mentions we like Blackmon. Or Tannehill. Or Richardson.

Anyone willing to take Jenkins in the second round?

What if Kirkpatrick falls to 22?

I highly doubt it with CIN (x2), CHI, and TEN all needing corners... but what if he does?

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Yes. I would too. But that doesn't seem likely to happen at this point. Jenkins falling to us in the second round seems like it actually has a chance. Would you take him in the second round?

for me, depends on who (specifically what positions) we have taken and who is available at that point.

i guess the answer to your question is yes, i wouldn't automatically rule him out. But he wouldn't be one of my 3 top targets at 37.

But Jenkins wouldn't be off your board? Some on here won't even consider him at any pick.

well, like Bowers and the injury stuff last year, we can't really know all the personal stuff to make a judgement on him. his talent is worth #22 of course, so i think you have to at least get the facts on his personal stuff at #37.

What we do know is pretty bad though:

1) He was kicked off the Florida football team. As we have seen in recent weeks it was pretty hard to get kicked off the Florida football team.

2) He likes to smoke weed.

3) He has four kids with three different women. He is 23-years-old.

4) He has admitted that he smoked weed while attending Northern Alabama.

With all that said, I still might consider him in the second round.

Great listen

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/Audio/M.Live%204.12.mp3

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201204/jets-star-blocking-kids-reality-tv-show

And this is what you get in return....

jc

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/huddlenotes/?p=1011

Before you read this, please do not let your children in the room! Your anger and shock may make you use language not suitable for children’s ears! This top ten is based on film work. It is not based on what other sites or people may think. It is not based on where a player might be drafted and it is not based on Rob’s value board. Rob’s board is meant for you to see where a player is projected to be drafted on the day of the draft. The talent board is meant to tell you what kind of talent I think the player has and if I think he will be successful at the next level no matter the round in which the player may be selected. You get the best of both worlds with our exclusive two-board system. This two-board system is used on draft day by many NFL teams as one tool to help them understand where a player in whom they are interested will most likely be drafted and to determine whether or not it may make sense to trade up and down in the early rounds of a draft.

This year, there were a record number of juniors that came out early for this draft. In my opinion, this makes the 1st round volatile and full of suspect players. The first round has several players who may have excellent talent, but may not have the intangibles needed to be successful at the next level. The record number of juniors coming out has also forced many agents to push their young clients on teams using marketing skills that might be a bit more overwhelming than most years. The players I list in my top ten might challenge the norm of players who you have heard are top ten players and, in some cases, may not even sniff the 1st round on draft day. The reason for this is that I watch film to come to my conclusions and talent doesn’t change once I profile a player. How can it? A workout does not change the way a player plays the game or impacts in a game situation. It’s really just that simple. That might seem strange to you, but the truth is there are no two Top 10 boards that are alike and many teams during a draft have players listed in their Top 10 with 1st round grades that fall into the later rounds. Many member of the media dislike me and the work I do, yet most of them are members. That’s why I date all my profiles — so you know what is being said on the air about a player is most likely from the profiles on THR and from a person who looks at film to come to his conclusions. I don’t do profiles to be agreed with; I do profiles to give you the tools to understand what your team is doing on draft day. That’s the real purpose of the site: to give you, our reader, the tools you need to make sense of what teams are doing on draft day. So here it goes…keep your blood pressure medication handy!

1. QB Robert Griffin III Baylor

I said it in my profile; I think Robert is a special person and football player. Besides having unique athletic talents, he will also be able to take the pressure of being the face of a franchise. I said in my original profile that Robert has the quickest release and accuracy when throwing the ball from the pocket that I have seen since Dan Marino. He has a strong arm and is the type of QB that will be able to run any kind of offense successfully. He adds “street smarts” to the way he plays football, which is appealing to me. Robert will make his own way in the NFL and, as far as I’m concerned, Robert is a sure bet to succeed in the NFL. Draft him 1st off the board or draft him 2nd, but don’t be foolish and not to draft him at all. I complete the profiles before workouts and before the combine. I have always thought that Robert was the best player in this draft. My profile on Robert was completed this year January 2012.

2. QB Andrew Luck Stanford

Andrew is what I call a systems quarterback. He needs a structured system with very good protection. He has a good arm, is athletic and his ability to “pre-snap read” a defense is unique and more mature than most quarterbacks coming out in the draft. That pre-snap read skill is what most scouts are attracted to when analyzing Andrew for the draft. In spite of that skill, Andrew needs to be protected in the pocket and wants to get rid of the ball quickly. He struggles staying in the pocket and throwing with pressure, so a moving pocket and quick release offensive system with a strong running game is just the type of offense in which he will impact. In college, Andrew stood behind a line that had seven guys on the line blocking for him most of the time. Protection is a big issue for Andrew, and needed in the system for him to be most successful. In 2004 before I started doing profiles, Rob and I talked a lot about draft strategies. One of the rules we talked about was: don’t get cute, profile the obvious and draft the obvious. I don’t think you can get more obvious than Andrew as a potential franchise QB. Profile completed: November 2011

3. RB Trent Richardson (Alabama)

In my profile of Trent Richardson, I called him “The Wonder Back”, because he is a combination of some of the best backs who have played in the NFL. Trent is the closest player I have seen to Bo Jackson and I have never seen a better back than Bo. Trent is fast, powerful, quick, can catch the ball down the field like a WR and in general, a hell of a football player. His lateral agility is incomparable and barring injuries, Trent should impact for any team in any style of offense and play multiple positions. Trent might be the best RB at picking up a blitz that I have seen coming out of college in a long time. I know it’s hard to pay running backs big money because of the injury factor, but Trent is not just a running back — he is a franchise football player. There is a big difference. Trent can score for you running or catching the football. He can get the tough yards for a first down or take the ball to the house from any place on the field. He is multi-talented and football players like this do not come along often. The last one was in 1986 when Bo Jackson was the very 1st pick in that draft by the Los Angeles Raiders. Profile completed: November 2011

4. DL Fletcher Cox (Mississippi St)

Fletcher is just scratching the surface of his talent. He has the strength and athletic talent to play multiple positions in any style of defensive front. He can play in a 1-gap or 2-gap style of defense and shows excellent natural strength and explosiveness to be a dominating pass rusher as well as run stuffer. Fletcher has an excellent attitude and never stops playing and giving effort until the whistle blows. He is the definition of “upside” and you do not have to “coach this kid up” to get him to play his best; however, you will have to teach him and improve his techniques to get the full advantage of his talent. His playing attitude on the field reminds me a lot of Justin Tuck (DE, NY Giants) when he came out. I considered Justin 1st round talent, but he was not drafted until the third round by the Giants in the 2005 draft. I believe Fletcher will be drafted much earlier than that. Profile completed: January 2012

5. QB Ryan Tannehill (Texas A&M)

Most people will tell you that Ryan hasn’t played the quarterback position long enough to evaluate him as a top ten pick. All I can tell you is those are people who live in a box and do not see anything but what others want them to see. The first time I saw Ryan, I knew this kid had franchise quarterback potential. Sure, his skills are still developing, but that “thing” that separates a quarterback from others is there. The intangibles are there. Draft this kid and develop him and he will win a lot of games and take you to the promise land. He shows great confidence in himself and his skills, but is not over-confident. Ryan stands tall in the pocket in the face of pressure. His release point and his arm speed stay the same when he feels the pressure from the outside or sees it from the inside. Ryan stays in the pocket and moves around very well. He doesn’t take off at the first sign of trouble, causing the play to break down. The cold weather teams should be looking hard at this kid because of his arm strength, accuracy and leadership as well as his ability to improve his game and mental stamina. Ryan is a team player and his teammates are going to want to play with him, and for him, because of this attitude. Ryan reminds me a lot of Eli Manning (QB, NY Giants). I call him Ryan (The Natural) Tannehill because, in spite of the fact that he can play other positions, his natural position is quarterback. You can see it every time he takes a snap — no movement is forced. Profile completed: November 2011

6. WR Alshon Jeffrey (South Carolina)

Alshon is the type of receiver that does not need to separate. He is the type of receiver that is actually open when he looks like he is not open. He is a Michael Irvin (WR, Dallas Cowboys) style of receiver. Alshon is strong and can handle the bump and run techniques that will be tried against him at the next level. In fact, he welcomes bump and run against him. He has that “I Dare You” attitude when you try to muscle him off his routes or get physical with him. That’s why I call him Alshon “I Dare You” Jeffrey. He is the type of wide receiver you build your passing offensive game plan around. Alshon has Calvin Johnson “catch the ball” talent and Shannon Sharpe “on the field” attitude. He might not be as fast or as fluid as Calvin, but he catches everything thrown to him no matter where you put it. This kid is the real deal. Profile completed: January 2012

7. CB Morris Claiborne (LSU)

Morris has the size, strength and speed to battle the Calvin Johnsons of the NFL one-on-one all game long. He shows mental toughness and is an excellent teammate. He is very adept inside the red zone and will shut down the fade pass most offenses like to use against smaller corners. He is the type of player who can play more than one position in your defensive backfield and one around which you can build your defensive backfield. He has excellent hands to make the interception and the length and quickness to close quickly. Profile completed: January 2012

8. LT Matt Kalil (USC)

Matt has all the talent you ever wanted or needed in a left tackle, but he plays to his competition at the college level. This is a bad habit for a left tackle in the NFL to develop and a problem for his QB to be. Truthfully, he could be the top pick in this draft if it wasn’t for this little lack of self motivation issue and if the top teams didn’t need QB’s. Nevertheless, he is the purest left tackle in this draft and, the truth is, if I needed a left tackle he would be the first one off the board at any point in this draft. Profile completed: November 2011

9. LB Donta Hightower (Aßabama)

Donta is playing middle linebacker for his college team, but that is not his impact position for the next level. I believe his impact position is as an OLB/DE in a 3-4 defense, but he will also impact as an OLB in a 4-3 or DE in a 4-3. Donta should impact right away as a pass rusher and, if you keep his assignments simple, he should impact as an OLB also. Don’t get me wrong: Donta is smart enough to play MLB, but right now he is thinking way too much, which is creating delays in his reactions. Draft this kid and use him to attack the line of scrimmage and he has a chance to be defensive rookie of the year. Donta has the potential to be as good as Derrick Thomas (former LB/DE, Kansas City Chiefs). He shows good change of direction skills and can play multiple positions in just about any style defense you want to run. He has those long arms and legs that the NFL scouts look for in a pass rusher and the explosiveness and agility to drop off the line and defend in zone coverage. He can run down the slot with those big TE’s, but when he puts his hand on the ground in a 4-3 front and rushes the passer, it is frightening for the opponent’s QB. Profile completed: December 2011

10. DL Jared Crick (Nebraska)

Jared Crick is as talented as JJ Watts who was the 11th pick of the first round by the Houston Texans in 2011. CRAZY,YOU THINK?! How many of you have watched his junior film like I have? You can bet none of the media has except for me. Jared has the size and strength to play multiple positions on the defensive line for the team that drafts him. He has good athletic talent to go along with a “can’t quit” work ethic. Jared shows the leadership skills that you can build a defense around. He handles the double team very well and can work on the defensive line in a 1-gap or 2-gap system and in a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. Jared will do more damage on the inside in pass rushing situations than he will on the outside. He is not a finesses type of pass rusher. He takes the most direct path to the quarterback rather than go around a blocker. He shows strength and has nice footwork that keeps him off the ground. He is technically sound when defending against the run or when he does rush the passer. Jared is a quality football player. He shows solid football intelligence and that, along with his work ethic, should allow Jared to be successful at the next level. Right now Jared is listed as a possible 2nd or 3rd round draft choice. My guess is that it’s due to his injuries. All I can say to that is, the team that drafts him in any round is going to get top ten talent. I call him, Jared “Can’t Quit” Crick. Profile completed: November 2011

That’s my top ten and it will not change unless someone gets arrested or some crazy off field issue happens that I have no information on at this point in the draft. Some of you are probably shocked that I left out Justin Blackmon. As you read on, I think you will understand why. Remember, I look at the draft from the prospective of an owner. I want to get the best talent and the best intangibles and if one or the other is lacking, I am going to downgrade them from my top ten. Techniques can be learned, but you must have the athletic talent and intangibles already in place for me to invest top ten money.

11. WR Mohamed Sanu (Rutgers)

If you need a wide receiver, draft Mohamed at any point in the draft and don’t look back. He will be as good as any of the more highly rated wide receivers. Truth is, he might wind up being the best of this group once he gets through the learning curve. Mohamed has that “do anything” attitude that will go a long way at the next level. Mohamed’s size, natural strength, speed and an excellent attitude on the field make him a potential franchise wide receiver. He has very strong hands to catch the ball and those long arms that will make it very hard for defenders to use bump and run techniques against him. He is a strong route runner and will overpower smaller DB’s. He runs good routes and is an excellent blocker. Mohamed has the speed to get deep and the strength to catch short passes and break them for big yardage after the catch. He will not make demands in the media to be the #1 wide receiver for his team. Mohamed will let the media come to that conclusion all by themselves through his play on the field. I suspect by mid season, fans of the team that draft Mohamed will fall in love with him and never want to let him go. I don’t care if a team drafts this kid in the top ten of this draft or he is the very last player drafted, Mohamed is going to carry your passing game in a way that you will not need a franchise quarterback on your team to make it to the Super Bowl. He has that type of talent and intangibles. Profile completed: January 2012

12. LB Shea McClellin (Boise St)

Shea is a very underrated player and I can tell you that not selecting him in my top ten was a very difficult decision. Shea has the ability and intelligence to play in any style of defense. Shea is not a flashy type of player because he is always in the right position and understands down and distance football. There is not a lot of wasted movement when this kid plays. When they asked him to rush the passer, he did it successfully, positively impacting the game in his favor. When they asked him to defend against the run, he was successful there as well. They asked him to drop in coverage; he does it as well as anyone in this draft. That’s why I call him Shea “He Does It” McClellin. Profile completed: January 2012

13. WR Justin Blackmon (Oklahoma St)

I like him, but I have a problem drafting “I love me” players ahead of more team oriented players. I really do not see what separates Justin from others in this draft. Of course, he has the talent to impact and I’m sure Justin is going to be a big star in this league; however, paying him top ten money is problematic for me. Drafting him in the first round is not. Profile completed: December 2011

14. LT Riley Reiff (Iowa)

I like the way Riley plays, but I just think he should be further along using his techniques consistently than he is right now. That speaks to his work ethic, which could be a big problem at the next level until he decides what’s important in his life. Profile completed: January 2012

15. OL Amini Silatolu (Midwestern St)

This will surprise a lot of people I’m sure but, after watching this kid on film, he showed me why I had all the question marks about the other offensive linemen in this draft. His passion to be the best and dominate on every down along with his natural athleticism makes this an easy pick. He can play multiple positions on the offensive line and play them all at a very high level. His athleticism allows for him to play in any kind of offensive line blocking scheme. Don’t be fooled: Aimini can play tackle at the next level and will be able to play it at a high level. He has the athletic talent, work ethic to improve and mental stamina to impact and lead. He just needs some time to learn the correct techniques when pass blocking. Profile completed: March 2012

Wow..I guess this means we should consider Alshon Jeffrey or Mohamad Sanu with our selection at 4 or in a trade down scenario inside the top ten.

hey Django, do you still have his list from last year? I remember that Watkins and Phil Taylor were both in his top 10, but can't remember who else. Thanks.

I like his approach being different and a bunch of the nuggets he gives out.

but, the constant "i've watched more film than anyone in the media" etc comments are tiresome as is the constant hyperbole (calvin johnson catching ability + shannon sharpe onfield attitude: really?).

Last year's Top 10

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/huddlenotes/?p=532

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Yeah, you gotta know how he writes his profiles by now and read through them...he has a knack for line of scrimmage talent...there his "intangibles" and body language profiles are more important as playing along the LOS at NFL means you gotta be consistent and bring it every snap with heart

He does NOT have a good track record with QBs and WRs though, constantly over/undervalueing them for strange reasons...he has a 5th round grade on Weeden because he didn't "improve enough" from 2010 to 2011, otoh he dishes out a 2nd round grade to Brantley because he hasn't played his best yet...

Generally he falls for overachievers and overvalues them and exaggeratedly downgrades inconsistent underachievers...that somehwat works for LOS positions but fails at "talent" positions like QB, WR etc...has a good eye for RBs though...he gave Colt McCoy a 1st round grade btw and Quinn too, so that 1st round grade on Tannehill isn't exactly a ringing endorsement

Man, I have to disagree with him on Tannehill. I saw a guy who crumbles under pressure, not a guy who stands tall in the pocket when all hell breaks loose around him.

Tannehill wasn't sacked much at all last year, only going down 9 times all year long. That's less than once per game. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to handle pressure late in games, and appeared to struggle with pressure in his face.

I'm not impressed with him at all. I hope we don't take him. If we do ...... then Holmgren and crew better be right about him, because they'll be hitching their futures to him.

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Maybe AkronJoe studied under this guy. He was always good for some worthless hyperbole!

2011 Huddle report

Before you read this, please do not let your children in the room. Your anger and shock may result in your use of language not suitable for children’s ears! This top 10 (+5) is based on film work; it is not based on what other sites or people may think. It is not based on where a player might be drafted and it is not based on Rob’s value board. Rob’s board is meant for you to see where a player will most likely be selected in this draft. The talent board is meant to tell you what kind of talent I think the player has and if I think he will be successful at the next level, regardless of the round in which he is projected to be taken.

You get the best of both worlds with our two board system. The truth is there are no two Top 10 boards that are alike and many teams, during a draft, have players listed in their Top 10 and with 1st round grades that fall into the later rounds. That’s why it is so amazing that Rob has the accuracy rate he does on the top 100 he posts each year. Most years, I get burned pretty good because of who I list as a top 10 player. Last year, I listed Tim Tebow (QB) as the top player in the draft and believe me, I heard about it over and over again. I also listed Linval Joseph (DT) selected by the Giants in the 2nd round who did not play very much last year. Nevertheless, we shall wait and see how both players pan out in the years to come. Like I said, I profile from film. I do not write profiles based on “inside” information, on other people’s opinions or biased views. I do not use rumors as a base of my profiles and suggest those rumors are based on facts from trusted sources that I have supposedly cultivated over years of writing profiles. I just profile from film. This year, my top two picks are QB’s — just probably not the ones you are thinking of. With that in mind, here it goes! (Keep your blood pressure medication handy!)

1 – Blaine Gabbert (QB Missouri) – Blaine comes from the hated spread offense that so many good QB’s come from. It’s also an offense that is used by a lot of NFL teams including the New England Patriots. There is more of a variation to it at the NFL level, but it is used. Halfway through this year, I saw a significant improvement in Blaine’s leadership skills, which is why I was one of the first to suggest that he was coming out early. Add those improvements to his talent and you have a potential franchise QB.

2 – Jake Locker (QB Washington) – Jake made a mistake last year. It is the same mistake that Andrew Luck has made this year. Jake decided to stay in school. This angers the scouts and media big time and they have made Jake pay for it. I predict that they will make Andrew Luck pay for it next year too. They tried to make Sam Bradford pay for it the year before, but Sam overcame it by getting hurt and letting his junior year film stand for him. There is nothing wrong with Jake’s accuracy. He is coachable and this year showed leadership skills beyond any QB has in this draft. Jake will not be the top QB picked in this draft, but he will be one of the best.

3 – Cameron Jordan (DL California) - Cameron is one of the most versatile defensive linemen in this draft. He uses mature techniques and will be an impact player in any style of defensive front you want to use. Cameron never stops working on the field. I suggest you read my profile to find out why I call him Cameron (Stun Gun) Jordan. He has talent similar to Bruce Smith (Hall Of Fame player, Buffalo Bills).

4 – Marcell Dareus (DL Alabama) – Marcell is a bit of a gamble. He is not a one-year wonder, but he is young and still has more to learn. He has Ndamukong Suh-like talent; however, he is not yet mature in his techniques, nor is he in the football shape that Suh was in when he was drafted. But make no mistake about it…the potential is there. The work ethic, the maturity must follow and he must get into better football shape. Marcell can bury an offensive line, which is why I call him The Caretaker.

5 – Patrick Peterson (CB/S LSU) – In my opinion, Patrick is more than just a cornerback for the next level. I believe that if a team in the top five selects him, they will think about using him all over the field and not just at cornerback. If he falls out of the top five, that leads me to believe most teams feel he is just a cornerback. To me, that type of thinking for a player with Patrick’s talent is a waste. Patrick has Sean Taylor S / Darrelle Revis CB type talent…it’s just that simple.

6 – Dontay Moch (OLB Nevada) – I know this is a surprise and most of you who are not members think this is nuts. You are saying to yourself…what about Von Miller?! On film, Von Miller is a very athletic one-trick pony who is more athletic than anyone on the field. By contrast, on film, Dontay Moch has shown coverage skills and pass rushing skills. He never stops playing until he hears the whistle and is an excellent tackler. Dontay will not sniff the first round, but down the road, he will be an impact player. Von Miller…well, all I can say is go to my profile for more information on him.

7 – Nate Solder (LT Colorado) – Nate is smart and has not reached his potential. He has the same kind of talent as Jake Long (LT Miami Dolphins) and the Dolphins seem very happy with Jake at the Left tackle position. Nate improved this year from game to game and has the athletic talent and football intelligence to continue to improve. To answer your question, no, I do not rate Tyron Smith from USC over both proven Left Tackles in this draft. His workouts do not change the fact that Tyron is 20 years old and, in spite of his workout numbers, has never played the left side in his entire career.

8 – Anthony Castonzo (LT Boston College) – I have never seen two proven left tackles — ones who have played against big time competition — be rated so low in a draft. Add to that a 20-year old workout warrior right tackle to the mix (one that everyone seems to feel is worthy of being selected in the top ten) and it makes sense to me why there seem to be so many “busts” in the first round. Nitpick all you want at these two left tackles, but the teams that draft them will be getting proven, mature talent.

9 – Danny Watkins (OL Baylor) – I broke the profile on Danny Watkins first. Before I profiled him in November of 2010, no one was talking about him at all. I profiled him not knowing how old he was or that he had only played football for a short time. I just profiled him from his work on the field. He has remarkable talent to play more than one position on your offensive line. The media has tried very hard to downgrade this kid, but the film tells you this kid is way too talented to let him slide in this draft.

10 – Philip Taylor (DT Baylor) – Remember: talent trumps character every time in a draft. Until someone can tell me what character issues that Phil was involved in, I have to believe it is no worse than any other player in this draft. To my knowledge, he did not get suspended for a year by the NCAA. To my knowledge, he has not had a problem at Baylor. What I see is a dominating defensive tackle that will make your defense better the day after you draft him. Suggesting he has character issues, but not telling us what they are, is a joke to me. We know what issues Cam Newton has and we all knew what off-field issues PacMan Jones had; however, the reason(s) or details of Philip Taylor’s character issues we are not allowed to know about. My understanding is that he was dismissed from Penn St for fighting and accepted one year probation.

Here is the rest of the group (the +5 group!). If you want to read more about these talented athletes, you can go to my profiles on TheHuddleReport.com and see why I feel they are worthy of being listed in the top 10 (+5) for the 2011 draft.

Cam Newton QB Auburn

Stephen Paea DL Oregon

Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa

Sam Acho DE/LB Texas

Julio Jones WR Alabama or A J Green WR Georgia

I know some of these names will be a shock to most of you who are not members, but remember, if you could look at all 32 teams’ top ten picks, I assure you that you would be shocked at the players they would have on their boards right now.