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Blackmon (10%, 9 Votes)
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Richardson (62%, 58 Votes)
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Kalil (2%, 2 Votes)
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Tannehill (5%, 5 Votes)
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Trade down (10%, 9 Votes)
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Tannehill? 
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Richardson. Mark it down.  Claiborne is also in the mix. For those who want Blackmon you better hope we trade down.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Richardson with 21 votes.
The field of Kalil, Blackmon, Claiborne, Tannehill, and "trade down" combine to have 14 votes.
This is turning into a landslide...
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Well if Tom is true to his word about BPA plus need, It's a slam dunk for TR.
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Nah, it's just a smoke-screen... 
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I'm telling you there are 2 plans,
Plan B1, depending if they think Tannehill is the answer starts with selecting Tannehill at 4, or 6 if a trade down
Plan B2, depending if they think Weeden is the answer starts with taking another player at 4, or 6 with a trade down and Weeden at 22.
Now my subconscious mind has told me Melvin Ingram as a member of the Browns. So one way I see this happening is the Browns somehow miss out on the player they target and pick Melvin Ingram at the last minute (a very fine pick) and Weeden at 22.
So my vote is for Melvin Ingram which is not on the list.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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The mass has no clue...it's NEVER the consensus homer fanbase pick, NEVER...Joe Thomas was too easy to pick and the FO was reportedly split on Quinn and AP and "settled" on Thomas
I picked Claiborne btw...2nd option being Tannehill, then 3rd trade down, TR and Blackmon
I'm ok with all options...it's all about the rest of the draft for me but I think Claiborne and Tannehill set us up better than the other options
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I'm telling you there are 2 plans,
Plan B1, depending if they think Tannehill is the answer starts with selecting Tannehill at 4, or 6 if a trade down
Plan B2, depending if they think Weeden is the answer starts with taking another player at 4, or 6 with a trade down and Weeden at 22.
Now my subconscious mind has told me Melvin Ingram as a member of the Browns. So one way I see this happening is the Browns somehow miss out on the player they target and pick Melvin Ingram at the last minute (a very fine pick) and Weeden at 22.
So my vote is for Melvin Ingram which is not on the list.
Great, we are starting with plan B
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lol i was thinking the same thing.
Maybe because plan A was Griffin?
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where's Kellen Moore on this list 
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Melvin Ingram at #4?? No way... if we trade down maybe, but not at 4...
and how can they miss the player they want at 4? They have repeatedly said they had 5 players they really liked and now Heckertt has said they have narrowed it to two depending on who Minn takes at 3...
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Claiborne is the pick if he's there and we don't trade down. Guaranteed.
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Claiborne is the pick if he's there and we don't trade down. Guaranteed.
LOL... TD's, 'Toad's, and Heldawg's guarantees are all at odds.
I guess I'll go ahead and "guarantee" it's Blackmon. Heckert wants us to score touchdowns.
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I am starting to get a trade down vibe actually .......  I remember when we took Haden, and Heckert was rock solid on him all along. He kept saying that Haden was the best guy available when we were going to pick, and he played a premium position. Then last year he was more evasive, and we wound up trading down. I have come to the conclusion that we are trading down again ....... unless I change my mind again.
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I'm not getting that vibe.   I think we'll stay at #4 and get either Richardson or Claiborne.
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I'm just kinda getting that non-committal feeling from Heckert ..... like last year's "we like Jones a lot, but ...." I want to change my vote to trade down.
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I guarantee we will pick someone in the first round!!!! I think we're gonna pick 2 but I'm not putting the guarantee on that yet...
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But ..... what if we trade down from 4 to 6 for a 2nd round pick this year ...... then we trade from 6 to 8 for another 2nd round pick this year ...... then we trade down to 15 for the Eagles' 2 2nd round picks, plus a 1st and 3rd next year .......... then we trade down from 22 with the Patriots for 27 plus a 1st round next year ........ then we trade down with the Vikings for their 2nd and 3rd round picks? Then we'd have no 1st rounders, but we would have 6 second round picks, a couple of 3rds ... I think ........... hell, I dunno ..... we'd have a boatload of picks ...... 
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Richardson with 21 votes.
The field of Kalil, Blackmon, Claiborne, Tannehill, and "trade down" combine to have 14 votes.
This is turning into a landslide...
33 Richardson - 26 Everything Else
I had wanted Blackmon first and foremost the majority of this drafting period, but really when I look at the scenarios that we could end up with; I just like the overall haul better when we take Richardson at #4. Perhaps I am trusting Sanu and Osemele more than I should (as if we don't pick Richardson, I would think we go Blackmon/GlennOrJ.Martin/WilsonOrD.Martin), but I have come around on the TRich option.
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This is a "who do you think they will draft" thread so I went Richardson. I'd prefer Blackmon.
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I think he will be a stud, able to run with power and shiftyness, block, catch out of the backfield. He is the ts and he is it.otal package. We want playmaker
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I chose Tannehill. Though I don't really know what to expect. Every player has a knock on them. Richardson (Knee scope, available depth in 2-3) Blackmon (not elite, available depth in late 1 -2) Claiborn (learning disability, less need for CB2, depth with Kirkpatrick and Gilmore at 22) Tannehill(Possible project and non-starter, massive attempt at RG3) I wouldn't be terribly surprised if we drafted any of these guys. Kalil would stun the bejesus out of me though. If they aren't targeting Tannehill, I would also expect a trade down. I was quite sure it was going to be Tannehill until I heard they matched the Redskins for RG3. Why give up so much if you prefer Tannehill? So now....I still think its Tanny, but I'm pretty sure it isn't. Have a nasty case of split personality going on.
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I think he will be a stud, able to run with power and shiftyness, block, catch out of the backfield. He is the ts and he is it.otal package. We want playmaker
I will predict that our selection will not be a consensus pick.
If you want a playmaker, then it has to be QB or WR, but the pick could easily be Claiborne too.
RB Is so overvalued by this board it makes nauseous to come here and read these post. I wouldn't take Jim Brown with a top 10 pick today.
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If you want a playmaker, then it has to be QB or WR, but the pick could easily be Claiborne too
This is one of the more ignorant statements I've read in a while. Any skill position has the potential to be a playmaker. Just try to argue that Chris Johnson, MJD, Adrian Peterson, etc. aren't playmakers. You'll just look foolish doing so. 
If we take Richardson at #4, it will be because people who've forgotten more about football than you or I will probably ever know feel he is an offiensive weapon we lack and can make a difference immediately. TR was a playmaker at the college level and he is a great bet to be a playmaker at the NFL level.
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If you want a playmaker, then it has to be QB or WR, but the pick could easily be Claiborne too
This is one of the more ignorant statements I've read in a while. Any skill position has the potential to be a playmaker. Just try to argue that Chris Johnson, MJD, Adrian Peterson, etc. aren't playmakers. You'll just look foolish doing so.
If we take Richardson at #4, it will be because people who've forgotten more about football than you or I will probably ever know feel he is an offiensive weapon we lack and can make a difference immediately. TR was a playmaker at the college level and he is a great bet to be a playmaker at the NFL level.
ignorant.  fool huh! I highly doubt you would say that to my face you jackwagon 
RB's a club for a weapon.
TR won't see the holes he saw in College running lose against DB's.
RB's can get you points, but the passing game gets you yardage.
Chris Johnson's is in a class off he's own with his quickness and speed and he wasn't a top 100 selection ... Not even AP was drafted in the top 5 and I don't put TR in his class. He's good, but there are good backs who come into the League most every year and some weren't even drafted at all.
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Claiborne is the pick if he's there and we don't trade down. Guaranteed.
I hope.
I know the fans will gripe about not picking offense.....but I think he's probably BPA at 4 (assuming Luck, RG3 & Kalil).
I'd prefer to trade back to 6 and pick the remaining of Blackmon, Richardson and Claiborne while getting an additional 2nd this year. But if we're staying at 4, take Claiborne and make our secondary a strength....something to fear!
We still have 22, 37, the rest of the draft and any new picks to acquire offensive weapons. Relax, it's a long draft.
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I'm a firm believer that if you you take any opportunity you have to make your opponent one dimensional.
Pairing Haden with Claiborne goes a long way towards doing that.
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However ..... adding Richardson allows us to actually have a dimension on offense ....... And after scoring 13 PPG last year ........ were certainly flat.
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Going D on the 1st only works if it guarantees we only allow them to score 12.
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Chris Johnson's is in a class off he's own with his quickness and speed and he wasn't a top 100 selection
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08 1st round pick 24.
Yeap, that was a type O ... I meant to say Top 10 selection 
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Ignorant. fool huh! I highly doubt you would say that to my face you jackwagon
Wow... Chill out. I found the statement ignorant. I didn't say YOU were.
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TR won't see the holes he saw in College running lose against DB's.
RB's can get you points, but the passing game gets you yardage.
A good RB will rack up plenty of yardage. Fix the line, and Richardson will flourish. If we end up going with CM, a strong running game will be his best friend while our new WRs figure out the WCO.
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Chris Johnson's is in a class off he's own with his quickness and speed and he wasn't a top 100 selection ... Not even AP was drafted in the top 5 and I don't put TR in his class. He's good, but there are good backs who come into the League most every year and some weren't even drafted at all.
Yet many say TR is the best back to come out since AP. ::shrug:: To each his own...
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Trent Richardson makes Colt McCoy's job easier.
If we can get Richardson, Martin at 22, and Hill or Jeffery at 37, I'd be ecstatic...
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Richardson. Find a way to get back up and get Blackmon.
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So according to this poll only 9% of posters will be happy with our 4th selection.
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I'm both feet in with Richardson. It's gotta be him.
I like Kalil, but I think we have a ton of money invested in Thomas. On top of having #22, I think you have to pass on him.
I like Claiborne, and think he wouldn't be a bad pick at 4, but like Kalil/Thomas, we have Haden and will be paying him big money. (However I would rather have more money invested in 2 top corners, especially with how the league currently is)
Blackmon is good, but I just don't think he's that great. Maybe he can be a #1, but he's probably not going to be in that top tier class of WR's. Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz, and I think AJ Green is going to be in that class soon enough. I just don't think he's worth a top-5 pick the more I think about it.
Richardson will most likely be the best player available, who plays a position of where we need a starter, and can do many things. He obviously can run with the ball. I have no doubts he can play in a physical division, considering he played in the SEC on a team where most defenses knew they were going to get a heavy dose of him. He can catch the ball, and he's pretty damn good at blocking in pass protection. The character stuff is just icing on the cake too. It just seems too obvious.
This franchise was built on great running backs. We have more great ones in our history than any other organization. I say we go get the next great one.
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So according to this poll only 9% of posters will be happy with our 4th selection.
Well, it says "who do you think Heckert will draft" and not who do you want. I voted Richardson but I want it to be Blackmon. Won't be upset if he does take Richardson, though.
Anybody else just doesn't make sense IMO.
I still hold onto hope that we end up with both of them tomorrow. 
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Go to You Tube and type in "Justin Blackmon ESPN Sports Science" and watch the video.
That video answers some of the knocks on Blackmon, yeah hes not 6 foot 5 and his 4.49 40 is only decent, but this guy is an explosive athlete, hes going to be a playmaker and I like the little bit of ahole streak in him because he plays on the field with a nasty attitude.
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