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I think if we go Stephen Hill (Rueben Randle could also work) and Mitchell Schwartz...then I think that makes things work for us.
Weeden's pick moves Colt to 2nd string where hes better off...and if we can add a WR and RT tomorrow then I'm good with Weeden
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I agree. A WR and RT are absolutely musts. Especially RT. I'd like to trade up if possible to ensure Cordy Glenn. I have a fear that that's gonna be Baltimore's pick.
And WR, I'd like to trade up from the third into the mid-second to get ourselves a wide receiver. Use our extra fourth and make it happen.
A draft of Richardson, Weeden, Glenn, and Randle/Jeffery/Hill/Sanu would make me very happy.
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1. Hill
2. Massie
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
Heckert is showing desperation in his picks. I don't like that trend at all.
I'm starting to think that he is not the right man for the job.
We'er just spinning our wheels.
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Look at the Steelers getting a top 10 talent at pick 24.
Jerry Jones say what you want about the man, but he gets his man.
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Why go BPA now? We didn't at 22...
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Why go BPA now? We didn't at 22...
Because we didn't at 22, and should now.
Weeden at 37 would have been ok. I'm fine with Weeden, just not at 22. On the bright side, all of my targets at 22 are still on the board, minus Reiff. So maybe it wasn't a total screw up if half of them all land at 37.
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1. Jeffrey
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Why go BPA now? We didn't at 22...
Because we didn't at 22, and should now.
Weeden at 37 would have been ok. I'm fine with Weeden, just not at 22. On the bright side, all of my targets at 22 are still on the board, minus Reiff. So maybe it wasn't a total screw up if half of them all land at 37.
So are we going to alternate every pick between BPA and reaching?
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Sure are a lot of cry babies in here who are angry that the Browns didn't pick THEIR guy.
Heckert hasn't blown a first rounder yet. And when Heckert and Holmgren agree on a QB and are willing to stake their jobs on it, then I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
As for what we should do:
Draft Glenn if he is there. If not, any one of Hill, Randle, Fleener or Martin would suffice.
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Why go BPA now? We didn't at 22...
Because we didn't at 22, and should now.
Weeden at 37 would have been ok. I'm fine with Weeden, just not at 22. On the bright side, all of my targets at 22 are still on the board, minus Reiff. So maybe it wasn't a total screw up if half of them all land at 37.
So are we going to alternate every pick between BPA and reaching?
Don't ask me. I ain't the GM.
This is what we, the fans, think they SHOULD do.
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My top receiver and my top RT are still available. Get Jonathon Martin in here and Alshon Jeffery. Package the 3rd 4th and whatever else you can and get both. still have the compensatory picks.later. Jeffery would be a terrific target for Weeden.
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I agree. A WR and RT are absolutely musts. Especially RT.
After our 1st two selections this draft has a real "boom or bust" feel to it because of Weeden. Heckert can go a long way towards bringing down the risk-factor by giving us an instant starter at RT. If he does that we can afford to miss on Weeden, though it'd still sting.
Damnit...I dunno if it's because of the way this Weeden selection soured me, but I sure feel as though we're going to take a receiver next and hope we get some scraps at RT.
It's not a prediction, just a general anxiety feeling of impending doom...
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1. Cordy Glenn-G/T
2. Jonathan Martin-T
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I agree with that list and mostly in that order. I might make Sanu #3 instead of #5
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I would go:
Fleener (I could see him becoming our Gronkowski, a huge target for Weeden at TE, and a huge threat down the seam)
Glenn
Sanu
Martin
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I can't see us taking Fleener with Watson, Moore, Smith, and Cameron on the roster...
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you had a good run Hank.
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The only reason I can see it happening is because of Watson's concussions, and the fact that they could have 3 weapons grow together on offense.
I can see Fleener as a Gronkowski type. I really didn't want him all that much earlier ..... but I think that he could be the best possible pick at this point.
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Weeden's pick moves Colt to 2nd string where hes better off...and if we can add a WR and RT tomorrow then I'm good with Weeden
They're already trying to move McCoy. They won't get anything for him though.  Pathetic selection at #22.
Will Hill be there for the Browns to select? Even if he is, will he be selection? I don't think so.
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I would not be surprised if we didn't take a WR or RT in rounds two and three. I don't think any of the WR's that are available can step in and play right away and RT's can be found later in the draft. While it would be nice to address those positions we still have other needs on the defensive side of the ball. Lavonte David, Vinny Curry, and Janoris Jenkins are all picks I would understand if they happen.
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Why go BPA now? We didn't at 22...
Because we didn't at 22, and should now.
Weeden at 37 would have been ok. I'm fine with Weeden, just not at 22. On the bright side, all of my targets at 22 are still on the board, minus Reiff. So maybe it wasn't a total screw up if half of them all land at 37.
So, you would have passed on DeCastro at #22?
Doesn't surprise me you're okay with Weeden at any selection then.
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I actually wanted Mercilius (sp?).
Weeden was just a total shock. I think we are fine at OG and could use a RT but those can be found later, as evidence from the RT's still available in the 2nd round.
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I actually wanted Mercilius (sp?).
Weeden was just a total shock. I think we are fine at OG and could use a RT but those can be found later, as evidence from the RT's still available in the 2nd round.
You think that we're fine at guard? Pinkston & Lauvao are fine with you? Really?
And to think I always thought that I was part of a the 'best fanbase in the NFL'. Now I'm not sure. The Browns suck and they've proven with the #22 pick why they'll continue to suck.
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I think if we go Stephen Hill (Rueben Randle could also work) and Mitchell Schwartz...then I think that makes things work for us.
Weeden's pick moves Colt to 2nd string where hes better off...and if we can add a WR and RT tomorrow then I'm good with Weeden
They're already trying to move McCoy. They won't get anything for him though. Pathetic selection at #22.
Will Hill be there for the Browns to select? Even if he is, will he be selection? I don't think so.
I think McCoy's fate was sealed when his father called the team about the mishandling of his concussion. That was a black eye for the management.
WR ... Who needs em 
Heckert thinks we're good there. 
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Heckert thinks we're good there.
I'm thinking that the belief is that with improved QB play the WR corps will also imrpove.
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drafting "a RT and a WR" would be great if there were good ones to be had when our pick comes up. I hoping and hoping that Glenn falls to our 37, but I highly doubt it. Martin's biggest knocks have been that he's not strong or tough. That sounds like a RT to you?
The three ideal WCO receivers in this draft have all been selected. That's why it was stupid to use our tradeable picks to move up for Richardson. We were guaranteed a stud at a position of need at 4 and Heckert panicked, exactly what he said he shouldn't do but had done before twice, and traded up. We could have used those tradeable picks to maneuver to get two of Kendall Wright, Doug Martin, David Wilson, and Cordy Glenn along with Blackmon. Then he panics again, drafting Weedon at 22? Now we're trying to rationalize it with "well, if a top-25 guy falls to 37, then it's OK that our GM panicked the first time around." No, it's not. That's not how you get good.
Instead, we blow 3 of our 4 trade fodder picks to lock us into a RB first and miss out on all of the ideal-fit WCO receivers before we see our pick come up again. Now we get to see what Weedon can do throwing to... who exactly? Greg Little? Jordan Norwood? Evan Moore?
Cordy Glenn is good as gone. Baltimore needs a starting OG and they just had Glenn fall into their laps. At this point, I'm hoping STL is stupid enough to take Randle over Hill and that Hill pans out for us. Beyond that, I'm not sure what we'd do. Hope Jeffrey suddenly becomes a route-running YAC guy instead of a jump-ball matchup receiver? Take Sanu?
This teams is a total mess. We're insistent on running a system that is difficult to learn and don't choose players that fit it. We were among the bottom 25% of the league last year in running the shotgun because it's "not our philosophy" even though it's what our QB does best. We have to run this system that "takes two years to learn" and it's not a good idea to change it to fit what our players do best. Then we go and draft a QB who has never taken a snap under center and will be past 30 when he's "learned" the offense. Hopefully he learns how to drop back without falling over sooner than that. Further, the available WR pool has dwindled into a bunch of also-ran wideouts that we can add to our pile of number twos. (Take that as you will.) We can't even move up any more if someone we like drops... we've only got 37, 67, 100, and 160 left before pick 200. We still need two WRs, a CB, a RT, and an OLB... not to mention how nice it would be to upgrade at RG, FS, and DE.
Maybe we can hear Heckert talk about how "we like our receivers" again and maybe even that "Artis Hicks is our starter" at RT. It seems obvious that we will take a RT and WR with our next two picks in some order, but it also seemed obvious to me that we wouldn't trade up to 3 and that we wouldn't take a freakin' QB at 22. Who knows what disasters tomorrow holds?
I don't think I'll sleep very well tonight.
Oh, and by the way... good luck on that trade for McCoy. Maybe you can get that seventh you sipped to minnesota back.
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I actually wanted Mercilius (sp?).
Weeden was just a total shock. I think we are fine at OG and could use a RT but those can be found later, as evidence from the RT's still available in the 2nd round.
You think that we're fine at guard? Pinkston & Lauvao are fine with you? Really?
And to think I always thought that I was part of a the 'best fanbase in the NFL'. Now I'm not sure. The Browns suck and they've proven with the #22 pick why they'll continue to suck.
Pinkston and Lauvao are decent young guards who will get better and better. I certainly wouldn't use a first rounder on a guard to replace them.
The rest is bullcrap that is the result of you either being sauced or emotional.
you had a good run Hank.
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Cordy Glenn is good as gone. Baltimore needs a starting OG and they just had Glenn fall into their laps.
I've read that the Ravens want Upshaw. Newsome knows that you can find guards later in the draft.
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Heckert thinks we're good there.
I'm thinking that the belief is that with improved QB play the WR corps will also imrpove.
We can wish,but wishing can't make it so. 
We have the worst unit in the League and TR will have a bulls eye plastered on him.
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I think a Non Concussed MoMass, Little on the outside (With the occasional Cribbs sighting) and Norwood in the slot and Mitchell running Go Routes can be "acceptable"
I'd be happier with Hill or Jeffery...
But I want a RT more than a WR...
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