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I like this pick. Gives us 4.3 speed.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/travis-benjamin?id=2532790OVERVIEW Benjamin was a big-play threat at Miami for several years. Initially an electric return specialist, he eventually became an effective pass-catching option. He is undersized but fast enough to get past safeties, and has the route-running savvy to outwork corners, create separation and make plays. His size might limit his pro potential, but many receivers of his stature have succeeded in the NFL. Benjamin has third- to fourth-round value. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Benjamin understands how to get open at the top of routes and can use his explosiveness to his advantage. As a returner, he is a "one cut and go" runner who can break for daylight. The key to his game as a receiver is his ability to get open, and he doesn't shy away from contact. He will be a true deep threat who runs crisp intermediate routes. WEAKNESSES Because his size puts him at a disadvantage, Benjamin's game is based entirely on speed and quickness. He has a hard time getting off the line of scrimmage if not given a free release, lacking the strength to recover if jammed by a more physical defender. Benjamin has also historically struggled to work in traffic. He prefers to be outside on the perimeter, away from contact; this could be his Achilles heel if he were to try to move into the slot.
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I like this pick more with Weeden at QB than Colt.
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Very good pick. He's our punt returner day 1, and gives us a true slot guy potentially....both glaring weaknesses last year.
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Well ... not my choice ..... but seems like he is as good an option as most available now.
I really don't know a whole lot about him at all.
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I Don't like the height but then again look at Wes Welker and others, So it just might pan out.. If you can take another WR at 120 I would be happy too Good Pick though
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/travis-benjamin?id=2532790
OVERVIEW
Benjamin was a big-play threat at Miami for several years. Initially an electric return specialist, he eventually became an effective pass-catching option. He is undersized but fast enough to get past safeties, and has the route-running savvy to outwork corners, create separation and make plays. His size might limit his pro potential, but many receivers of his stature have succeeded in the NFL. Benjamin has third- to fourth-round value.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Benjamin understands how to get open at the top of routes and can use his explosiveness to his advantage. As a returner, he is a "one cut and go" runner who can break for daylight. The key to his game as a receiver is his ability to get open, and he doesn't shy away from contact. He will be a true deep threat who runs crisp intermediate routes.
WEAKNESSES Because his size puts him at a disadvantage, Benjamin's game is based entirely on speed and quickness. He has a hard time getting off the line of scrimmage if not given a free release, lacking the strength to recover if jammed by a more physical defender. Benjamin has also historically struggled to work in traffic. He prefers to be outside on the perimeter, away from contact; this could be his Achilles heel if he were to try to move into the slot.
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I Don't like the height but then again look at Wes Welker and others, So it just might pan out.. If you can take another WR at 120 I would be happy t
oo Good Pick though
He's fast and not afraid of contact. 2 very important things in a WR.
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And it gets even worse!  Another poor pick! Sure, he's a WR, but there are better players at the position taken that are left on the board. This is why the Browns suck! 
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I always love these things.
In the strengths it says he doesn't shy away from contact.
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Watching the video I liked that I saw him go up and get the ball. Catching with his hands, arms extended. Plucking the ball at a point higher than his natural height.
MoMas has none of this. Maybe the rook can teach some of those skills. Other wise MM will be looking for work.
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And it gets even worse!
Another poor pick! Sure, he's a WR, but there are better players at the position taken that are left on the board.
This is why the Browns suck!
Like who?
Dude is the fastest guy on the team day 1.
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I am liking this as well. We need someone who can blow the top off of the defense and he gives us that dimension. Better this type of player than a slower possession guy who would give defenses all the more reason to play up and stack the box.
With a rocket arm that Weeden has over McCoy this opens things up and maybe spells the end of Cribbs as a returner . . .
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LOL, the feed on NFL.com just went down right after our pick. I'm now looking at the desktop of a Mac computer. LOL
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Amen.. Speed and desire.. I love it. And we have a QB that can hit him 60 Yds down the field at will.
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This guy reminds me a lot of Santana Moss ... hopefully he can put up that kind of production. Needs to put on a bit of weight and muscle though ... hope that doesn't kill the speed.
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I've read that he claims his fastest time is 4.26 
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And it gets even worse!
Another poor pick! Sure, he's a WR, but there are better players at the position taken that are left on the board.
This is why the Browns suck!
Please. You bitch and moan about every pick like you know everything, when in all reality you don't know a damn thing.
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I've read that he claims his fastest time is 4.26
Sounds like it's not claimed. It was his official combine time. 
Certainly has speed. The Browns just need to find creative ways to get him a free release off the LOS.
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LOL, the feed on NFL.com just went down right after our pick. I'm now looking at the desktop of a Mac computer. LOL
Yeah, I noticed that. It actually cut to a silent feed of some potential pick's living room for a few minutes, and then cut the the desktop.
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LOL, the feed on NFL.com just went down right after our pick. I'm now looking at the desktop of a Mac computer. LOL
That's weird. CBS Sports is up ... and they run the mechanicals of NFL.com.
The latest pick shown is R+Turbin to the Seahags.
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And it gets even worse!
Another poor pick! Sure, he's a WR, but there are better players at the position taken that are left on the board.
This is why the Browns suck!
This
Who?
Can I please go back in time 30 minutes ?
Can they please take a Football player, not Josh Cribbs' baby brother.
WR? yes! WR who should be a reservere in the CFL? No.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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And it gets even worse!
Another poor pick! Sure, he's a WR, but there are better players at the position taken that are left on the board.
This is why the Browns suck!
Go root for Buffalo...geesh man
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Even with this pick.....I STILL want Eric Page (WR - Toledo).
 
I want Page - just for "local guy" reasons.
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he doesn't shy away from contact, ....;He prefers to be outside on the perimeter, away from contact;
Which is it? I wonder how his hands are? I hope they are great. This is the type of receiver I saw us picking up.
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Yeah, I noticed that. It actually cut to a silent feed of some potential pick's living room for a few minutes, and then cut the the desktop.
Looks like we will miss them disgussing our last selection. 
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Which is it? I wonder how his hands are? I hope they are great. This is the type of receiver I saw us picking up.
I have read that he has good hands, and catches naturally, away from his body. (for what it's worth) Plus he is fast, fast, fast, (and really small)
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Same height, weight and recorded time as Desean Jackson.
you had a good run Hank.
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Rated WR #64 (FA) from NFLDraftscout for what it's worth.
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Same height, weight and recorded time as Desean Jackson.
Hope he doesn't have the same attitude.
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Same height, weight and recorded time as Desean Jackson.
That was my first though 'poor mans D Jackson'
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Here is scout's inc. evaluation of the pick:
Travis Benjamin #100:
What he brings: Benjamin is an undersized explosive slot receiver who will never start on the outside, but can also contribute in the return game. He's at his best with the ball in his hands in space.
How he fits: He's a little bit of a curious pick because he's like the guys they already have and they're still looking for that dynamic edge guy who can stretch the field. Benjamin could be effective out of the slot, but they have those guys and he could help in the return game, but they already have Joshua Cribbs. He can add some explosiveness to a passing game that had none in 2011.
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Yeah I thought he was really underrated by them
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Everything I a,m reading on the guy says probably FA.
This draft is going to either make the Browns FO look really good...or really bad....They are drafting from their own board...which seems completely different than what anyone else is thinking.
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Thanks for reminding me Hack. 
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I have read that he has good hands, and catches naturally, away from his body. (for what it's worth) Plus he is fast, fast, fast, (and really small)
Come on now, don't start using his positives to sway the Negative Nancy's on the board. There were better people available and that's why we suck.
We needed a WR and this kids looks good. I'd rather have a small guy that catches well with blazing than a 6' 4" slow WR that can't catch. (did I mention I want Eric Page too?)
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Here is scout's inc. evaluation of the pick:
Travis Benjamin #100:
What he brings: Benjamin is an undersized explosive slot receiver who will never start on the outside, but can also contribute in the return game. He's at his best with the ball in his hands in space.
How he fits: He's a little bit of a curious pick because he's like the guys they already have and they're still looking for that dynamic edge guy who can stretch the field. Benjamin could be effective out of the slot, but they have those guys and he could help in the return game, but they already have Joshua Cribbs. He can add some explosiveness to a passing game that had none in 2011.
I think there is room on our roster for speed and he could add an element that's lacking, but he wont be a focal point. that will be the guys like Little and Cribbs in the short passing game doing the dirty work.
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Does anybody on here actually watch these guys PLAY or just read what other people say ? I don't care if he's 5 ft even... The dude out runs coverage and leaps like a kagaroo. He's tough and has heart. Gosh ..
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