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One of the few times I wish I was a Ref ......

don't forget that if the Cavs don't get the #1 overall pick tonight, then we want the Kings to get it (to boost their odds of giving us their 1st rounder next year)

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/05/29/basketball_jones_draft_donut.nba/


Cavs are winning the lottery. Here's the science to back it up.

I'm gonna wear my lucky drawers tonight!

move team to largest market in USA - check
sell team to eccentric billionaire owner - check
minority owner be one of most respected entertainers by your athletes - check
have some decent young talent and willingness to infuse with veterans like Gerald Wallace - check
acquire #1 overall pick in one of best recent drafts - possible tonight

but, even if they get Anthony Davis to go along with everything else, then that's just not enough for Deron Williams (who also drove Jerry Sloan to his first retirement)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets-need-more-than-anthony-davis-to-hold-onto-deron-williams.html

he's such a crybaby

J/C

Here we go.

Anthony Davis sporting the old school Broncos ball cap? No thanks!

4th.....Drummond!

Well, time to start talking up Robinson and Drummond. Need one of the 3 teams infront of us to take them.

#4

Oh well, not bad.

So we lose that coin flip to give us the extra 0.1% and we pick 1??

BountyDavisGate!!!

Who does Charlotte take??

Who does Washington take??

That leaves us who to chose from???

His play has not fallen off the map. You're either kidding yourself or you're not paying attention.

1 Hornets Anthony Davis PF
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Bobcats Thomas Robinson PF
Kansas, Junior
3 Wizards Michael Kidd-Gilchrist SF
Kentucky, Freshman
4 Cavaliers Bradley Beal SG
Florida, Freshman
5 Kings Andre Drummond C
Connecticut, Freshman
6 Trailblazers Jared Sullinger C
Ohio State, Sophomore
7 Warriors Harrison Barnes SF
North Carolina, Sophomore
8 Raptors Jeremy Lamb SG
Connecticut, Sophomore

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1wP75QAEa
http://www.draftexpress.com

Conspiracy theory...

So you lose a big name free agent you get the number 1 pick...

We lose LeBron, get Kyrie,

New Orleans loses Paul, they get Davis...

Calling it now...Orlando loses Howard, #1 pick 2013

Brad Beal or Harrison Barnes.

maaaaaaaaaan

So the team that was recently owned by the league wins the lottery.

Interesting.

I wonder how much extra Tom Benson paid to get Anthony Davis.

wow, we have no room to complain about the lottery. didn't we just pick 1 and 4 last year?

j/c


My top11 mock. I'll try to add the rest of the lottery later on:



1. NO Hornets – Anthony Davis and no, they are not trading the pick.
2. Charlotte Bobcats
Option1: MKG – they need a SF and he is clearly the best SF. Even Jordan’s UNC affinity won’t be enough to draft Barnes over him.
Option2: T.Robinson – they have a dire need for a frontcourt scorer as well. If Robinson wasn’t 21 and there weren’t fears about him being able to do his thing against stronger (literal strength) competition, then he might be the pick. But, he won’t.
3. Washington Wizards – they have Crawford at SG. Hmmm.
Option1: ?? T.Robinson – see below.
Option2: Beal is the 3rd guy on the prospect list, but Crawford was decent at SG and they have so many dire needs. Tough to see them taking Drummond with having Nene locked in (can’t really pair them together). PJIII could be an option too. Really, T.Robinson as an athletic fast-break PF who can play some defense, might be their best option if they go for team fit slightly over BPA.
4. Cleveland Cavaliers
Option1: Bradley Beal – whoo hoo. I’d prefer Davis/MKG, but I’ll take the consolation prize. He and Irving would be a dynamic scoring backcourt.
Option2: Jeremy Lamb – better height than Beal, better outside shot than Beal, also a stat-stuffer. He’s scary thin and needs to add bulk to be able to play real defense in the NBA. Like Beal, would be nice backcourt combo with Irving.
Option3: Drummond/PJIII – if our FO goes pure upside, then I guess I could see one of these guys. Can’t play TT and Drummond at the end of games together unless TT proves his gains on FTs are real. PJIII could be good-Odom or bad-Odom or (more likely) both.
Option4: Trade w/ Portland?? I would jump at a trade for #6 + #11 for #4 if Davis/MKG/Beal go in the top3. Maybe Portland falls in love with Drummond and wants to try again to fix that spot? Probably not though as they are going through a near-complete rebuild (Batum, Aldridge being the only “safe” guys).
5. Sacramento Kings
Option1: PJIII – I know most are thinking about pairing Drummond w/ Cousins, but I think the Kings look to the SF spot with PJIII. This allows them to stay extremely athletic and fast-paced, which is how their team is built (and moves Tyreke back to SG if they keep him).
Option2: Drummond – that would be a lot of size. Slows them down though and they’d probably want to swap out Tyreke for a halfcourt wing.
Option3: Barnes – again, they don’t want Tyreke at SF and Barnes has talent.
6. Portland Trailblazers
Option1: A.Drummond – They do need a center (not a great history for them at that spot though)
Option2: J.Lamb – he is exactly the type of guy they go after. He fits in beautifully with Batum and Aldridge and they haven’t minded in the past of having to develop a guy. Of course, with another new GM that could all change.
Option3: K.Marshall – they need a PG of the future to go with their corps and he would fit well.
7. Golden State Warriors
Option1: H.Barnes – they have to like the value of getting a scorer at this slot.
Option2: PJIII – he just screams Golden State, no?
8. Toronto Raptors
Option1: K.Marshall – Calderon is in his last year and they would like to groom his successor. With Jonas coming, plenty of bigs.
Option2: H.Barnes – he’s slipping here and a good value. Goes well with their corps too (including DeRozan at the other wing).
9. Detroit Pistons
Option1: Any of the SFs above if they drop (Barnes, PJIII). Obviously, this setup doesn’t look like that will happen.
Option2: J.Henson – I like Zeller more, but Henson makes more sense next to Monroe
Option3: T.Ross – it would be considered a reach, but I think he is really, really good and a worthy top10 pick.
10. New Orleans Hornets
Option1: Tyler Zeller – gives them a legit C to replace Kaman.
Option2: J.Sullinger – this might be where teams start to consider his scoring a possible asset as a PF.
11. Portland Trailblazers
Option1: Damian Lillard – 2 lottery picks and they get a C and a PG (they have a PF and SF at least already). Sounds like a good start though both may need some growth.
Option2: T.Ross
Option3: A.Rivers

I'm not too thrilled about Bradley Beal being on the smallish size.
Drummond could give the Cavs some much need size and athletism in the paint.
On side note did anyone see that pathetic pic of Nick Gilbert's son on the front of the PD? He has no reason to look that sad.
Yeah yeah we get you were the darling of the Cavs Draft Lottery in 2011 with the ultra hip geek nerd look and your stupid catch phrase.
The Draft Lottery isn't about you and your get up.

on Jeremy Lamb - I would love to trade down with Portland (#4+#24 for #6+#11). However, if that is not an option, sometimes you have to just go with who you feel is best and not worry about the "rankings" See OKC with Westbrook (#4 overall) and Harden (#6 overall)

also, important note: I don't want Drummond or PJIII at the #4 overall pick (I'd consider both at #11 if we did trade down). But, those options were how I think the Cavs FO will look at that pick (I'd take Barnes before either of those 2 guys)