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re-seeding is extremely difficult to do when you have to schedule games to fit into a networks line-up. TNT/ESPN would be very upset if they had to wait for all 1st round matchups to complete rather than getting to fill a time slot with the 2nd round matchup that finished first.


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Well, in the NBA, rarely do you have an 8 seed beat a 1 seed ANYWAYS. So it wouldn't be that difficult to line up.

Because it only effects the start of the second round anyways.

And I doubt it'd be anymore different TV wise than it is now (aka occasionally retarded)


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Leave it the way it is, if an 8 seed beats a 1 they have earned the right to play the 4 or 5.

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Pretty much. To do otherwise operates on the assumptions that the higher seeded team is always the better team, and the higher seeded team is more deserving to advance to the next round, neither of which are necessarily true.

Seeding determines the initial matchups. From that point, may the best man win.

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Boston is a matchup nightmare for Miami.

KG and Brandon Bass will have free reign as Miami doesnt have anyone to match them...If Lebron matches KG then Brandon Bass will be free with Anthony/Haslem on him which is a mismatch, otherwise KG has a mismatch.

Miami has no one to match Rondo as Chalmers and Cole cant D him up and Wade isnt a defensive player...because if you make him work on D itll take from his offense.

Paul Pierce will lose some of his offense by working as hard as he will to counter LeBron, though Pietrus will give him breaks (something they didnt have last year)

the big X factor is that Ray Allen cant check DWade...Bradley being hurt is the biggest miss in this series. Ray cant do it with his bum ankle.

Lets say though...Wade goes for 30 a game...Pierce can keep LeBron to 20ish, and the rest of the Heat cant beat the Celtics...Paul will get his customary 15, Ray will get 10, KG will average 20 and Rondo becomes the x-factor...


Miami doesnt have a good matchup with Boston because the things Boston does well the Heat dont do well...and their D matches up with 4/5 of what the Heat do well...

if Wade plays championship ball Boston loses, but if KG plays championship ball, they dont...


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I'd give them a shot had Bradley not gone out. He could of slowed Wade down.

They still have one, it all depends on which Rondo shows up, and for how long.

And hopefully if Good rondo shows up, Wade doesn't try to rip his arm off again...


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They don't re-seed for travel reasons. It sounds dumb but that's why. You'd think they'd be able to get these guys some chartered planes.

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that entire post should be in purple font. i hate miami as much as anyone, but if they don't sweep Miami it's because they got overconfident/lazy in one of the games.


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Western Conference Finals are going to be incredible.

Can't wait

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Western Conference Finals are going to be incredible.

Can't wait




Just. Really good basketball.

It's fantastic.


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Can't wait




Just. Really good basketball.

It's fantastic.




100% agreement. I'm really still up in arms as to who presents the best matchup for the Heat, though. On one hand you have SA who can grind it to a hault, move the ball really well in their half court sets, hit the mid-ranges, and play sound fundamental D, and on the other hand there's the Thunder's athleticism on the wings and in the open floor with real solid post D. PG play is pretty close to a wash (at least compared to MIA), so really, who gives them the better run for their money?


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I think LeBron getting swept by Duncan again would be hilarious (doubtful)

But I'd love to see the Thunder get it this year. Westbrooks kind of a d-bag, but I think Harden and Durant are two swell dudes...


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I think OKC is just to athletic.

It sounds silly. But I wouldn't be totally surprised if this series goes 5 games (OR LESS)

Change my mind SA.


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Remember what happened last time Miami faced a team with solid coaching and spacing?

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Execution versus Athleticism right now.

Execution is winning out.


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I hate Westbrook

Why does Harden not play PG?

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SA Gameplan: Steven Jackson blanketing KD, allow Westrbrook to do whatever it is that he does...


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I don't like basing things on one game...

But based on THIS game, I want SA versus Miami. (I'd prefer SA versus Boston though )

3 straight 3s by OKC to end the game, where was that the last 5 minutes? (I guess it helps when you're not being defended)

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Cleveland Cavaliers hope to follow blueprint drawn up by Spurs, Thunder | cleveland.com
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When San Antonio and Oklahoma City open the NBA Western Conference Finals today, watch closely, Cavaliers fans.

With any luck -- and some patience -- this could be the Cavs in a few years. That's the plan, anyway.

The Spurs and the Thunder are the two teams the Cavs have patterned themselves after for a variety of reasons.

As two of the smaller markets in the league, both teams have built patiently through the draft, with stars willing to stay put and grow and, by and large, with solid citizens whose character is as strong as their skills. The Spurs are a crafty veteran team that isn't flashy but doesn't make mistakes, while the Thunder is a young, athletic squad whose talent and effort on defense and explosiveness on offense is often eye-popping.

No wonder basketball purists around the world are so eager to watch them square off.

"From a television broadcast position, we couldn't have asked for two better teams," said TNT analyst Reggie Miller during a conference call with reporters last week. "Obviously, you have the No. 1 and 2 seeds in the Western Conference, but it was really these two teams from Day One that really separated themselves in the Western Conference.

"For it to come down for all the marbles to move on to the NBA Finals . . . this is what you ask for and dream of -- to have the two best teams, one and two, go at it."

What many may not realize is that Thunder General Manager Sam Presti actually patterned his team after the Spurs.

"There's no question the influence from San Antonio is huge," said TNT analyst Steve Kerr, who played for the Cavs as well as the Spurs, during the conference call. "Sam started out as intern there. It's probably the best model that you can try to pattern your franchise after. He's done an amazing job. He's really laid that foundation, made the right [draft] picks, established the way the organization is going to go about its business, embraced the community.

"They have not skipped one step there, and Sam deserves a ton of credit."

The Cavs' links to the Spurs go back to former General Manager Danny Ferry, who joined San Antonio after 10 years of playing with the Cavs, winning an NBA title in 2003, then moving to the front office there. After five years as the Cavs' general manager, he resigned and returned to the Spurs' front office.

The common denominator between the Cleveland and San Antonio franchises is the premium put on character.

Although it made Cavs fans crazy when former General Manager Wayne Embry stressed it, his insistence on acquiring players with character resulted in the much-loved teams of the 1990s featuring Mark Price and Brad Daugherty.

As great as those teams were, they could never overcome the greatness of Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls, who rose to prominence at the same time. One advantage the Cavaliers have now is that if they are able to surround Rookie of the Year Kyrie Irving with enough young talent in the next few years, traditional Eastern Conference powers such as Boston and Miami will be over the hill, while up-and-comers such as Chicago, Indiana and Philadelphia
don't have players in the same class as Jordan, who can will their teams to win.

Many things have to go right for the Cavaliers to get from where they are now to where San Antonio and Oklahoma City currently reside. It starts with Wednesday's NBA Lottery and the upcoming NBA Draft, as the Cavs hope to build on the foundation they established with the selection of Irving and Tristan Thompson last year.

But the team believes it has the resources, the patience and the plan in place to get there.


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#3: SF MKG, Kentucky
#24: (f/ LAL) C Meyers Leonard, Illinois
#33: C Fab Melo, Syracuse
#34: (f/ NO via MIA) G Doron Lamb, Kentucky

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that would be a draft. i'd be sort of surprised to see Leonard and Fab fall to those spots, but I can't say it is out of the realm either.

the draft I am hoping for (outside of Anthony Davis):

MKG
Terrence Ross
John Jenkins
Fab Melo - why not hope like you did that he falls

all players there would have to fall slightly, but it could happen at this point (except MKG if we get the #2 pick)


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Yeah, I don't follow the NBA draft as much as you guys, I was just going off of David Aldrige's rankings, so I could be way off.

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naw, it's not way off, just need them to fall a bit from the current consensus. Leonard was thought to be a lottery pick by many until he went completely passive towards the end of the year when the Illini were fighting for a NCAA spot. someone could still take him as 7fters who can hit 15-20ft shots are not all that commond.

fab is all over the place. but, most see him as a 1st rounder because he's a legit C who can defend (take a look at the '5' today, only about 10 guys who have legitimate offense, the rest are defenders).


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Got a feeling Miami wins this one by 15+.

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I have a feeling Boston is going to trail most of the game and steal it at the end.

Not if Ray Allen doesn't remember how to shoot free throws though....

3rd T on Boston already lol

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Good lord

Boston is soooooooooo freaking slow and unathletic.

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Turnover after turnover after turnover after turnover.

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Typical mid-to-late 3Q Miami surge has seemingly put this game away for good.

Boston has no scoring with KG on the bench with four fouls.

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I was upset that I started a 3rd shift job this week, had to leave for work halfway through the first quarter.

...Not so upset anymore.

(Well still kind of am, SA/OKC is ganna be awesome.)


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I really hope Westbrook doesn't play like an idiot tonight.

I absolutely love the match up of OKCs big 3 versus San Antonios big 3.

Hopefully THIS guy shows up


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There were too many "I'm gonna run down the court and shoot right away" possessions from OKC on Sunday. You just can't do that all that much against San Antonio unless you are trying to ride some momentum wave. There were some really dumb shots in the last 6 or 7 minutes of that game.

I saw a little too much of the iso stuff, while San Antonio runs a lot of actual plays. It's really awesome too see. If they had NY or LA or BOS on their jersey instead of SAS, people would be sick of hearing about how good they are.

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OKC definitely can get lazy when Westbrook, Harden and Durant are all on the floor together. At times, they are running picks for each other and utilizing back-picks by Perk&Ibaka to get open space on the weakside. But, too many times, they are just trying to go 1on1 or running a simple PnR rather than anything extra.

SA, on the other hand, runs the same play over and over. It just has about 15 different options and loops back to the beginning (on the other side of the key). Tony Parker has mastered the decision making for it and when their reserves are hitting the open-3's it generates, it is a thing of beauty.


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I always thought that slapping the backboard when the ball is on the rim was a goal tend?

Edit: Well it was a nice 2.5 quarters.

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These OKC boys can ball

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Does anyone like the 2-3-2 format?

I think it gives the lower "ranked" team the advantage...

I prefer 2-2-1-1-1

The lower team getting game 6 at home is important IMO.


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They only do 2-3-2 in the Finals. I believe it is that way for geographical reasons.

On a side note these last two SA-OKC games were more like I expected this would go. OKC is just way more talented. If SA can pull off Game 5 I think we will get a 7 game series and OKC will win in game 7.


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I'm aware of that. Which makes it even more ridiculous...


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