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First time playing Fantasy Football here and I need a little help and what to target in the draft.

Roster Positions are the following:
QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN


Score Settings are set as:
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Offense League Value
Passing Yards 25 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns 4
Interceptions -1
Rushing Yards 10 yards per point
Rushing Touchdowns 6
Reception Yards 10 yards per point
Reception Touchdowns 6
Return Touchdowns 6
2-Point Conversions 2
Fumbles Lost -2
Offensive Fumble Return TD 6

Kickers League Value
Field Goals 0-19 Yards 3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards 3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards 3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
Point After Attempt Made 1

Defense/Special Teams League Value
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble Recovery 2
Touchdown 6
Safety 2
Block Kick 2
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns 6
Points Allowed 0 points 10
Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
Points Allowed 21-27 points 0
Points Allowed 28-34 points -1
Points Allowed 35+ points -4



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How many team league, what pick do you have? Is it a keeper league? The scoring is pretty standard, you can look online and find rankings for this season, Check out ESPN's Fantasy Football site, they have a lot of information that will help you as a first timer.


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I don't think it's a keeper league. 10 maybe 11 teams.


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So according to ESPN

1 Arian Foster, HOU 8 RB1
2 Ray Rice, BAL 8 RB2
3 LeSean McCoy, PHI 7 RB3
4 Aaron Rodgers, GB 10 QB1
5 Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC 6 RB4
6 Tom Brady, NE 9 QB2


If I was sitting 3rd in the draft (position not set yet) should I draft McCoy or would you go for Rodgers?


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If I was sitting 3rd in the draft (position not set yet) should I draft McCoy or would you go for Rodgers?




I would go Rodgers, barring injury he's more dependable than a RB on a passing team, cause McCoy has to depend on Vick not getting destroyed...


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OK, let me ask this question, if you were sitting #1 who are you drafting?


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I sat #1 in one of my first few drafts.

I had only done a snake (usually do auctions) cause I was setting up my "All Browns Team" but ended up with the 1st pick...

Took Tom Brady.

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In order, I take ...

1. Foster
2. Rodgers
3. Brady
4. Rice
5. McCoy
6. Weeden



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In order, I take ...

1. Foster
2. Rodgers
3. Brady
4. Rice
5. McCoy
6. Weeden




I see what you did there!!

So do anyone have a good site that has better rankings then ESPN??


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So according to ESPN

1 Arian Foster, HOU 8 RB1
2 Ray Rice, BAL 8 RB2
3 LeSean McCoy, PHI 7 RB3
4 Aaron Rodgers, GB 10 QB1
5 Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC 6 RB4
6 Tom Brady, NE 9 QB2


If I was sitting 3rd in the draft (position not set yet) should I draft McCoy or would you go for Rodgers?




id go Mccoy, but wouldnt fault you for going Rodgers.


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i'd go McCoy as well. i'm a bit surprised with the dearth of RBs and the relatively large supply of QBs that people are so willing to draft a QB that high.

it's splitting hairs, but if I can get Foster, Rice or McCoy, then I'm not even considering anyone else.


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I'm skeptical of Foster. Got injured last year, Ben Tate will take some carries away...


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Google: fantasy football calculator and participate in a dozen mock drafts in the third position. You'll find out from that your best strategy.

I'd take McCoy or Chris Johnson there. Hutchinson signed with the Titans this offseason and I expect CJ2K to round back into form.

Once you do the mocks you'll see how precious a commodity non-RBBC RBs are.

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Thanks for the advice, I just might do that once we decide on the draft position. We are going to pick numbers out of a hat for seeding and snake each round.


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Once you do the mocks you'll see how precious a commodity non-RBBC RBs are.




It's why guys like T-Rich, even a rookie on a bad team, is being drafted occasionally in the 1st round.

He's going to get the bulk of the carries.

You can't predict a team like GB or NE which RB is ganna be on the field at any point...


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I look at it like this. 10 team league, starting 1-qb and 2-rb. For starters, 20 RB's will be drafted and only 10 QB's. Sure, Brady and Rodgers will be great picks, but you should still be able get a top 5 QB in rounds 2-3. There seems to be fewer and fewer RB's that get a bulk of the carries these days. I'd rather grab a top RB and a good(but not elite) QB, then grab an elite QB and average RB. Just my opinion though.

For the record, in an 8 team league last year my first 3 pics were Rice, Mccoy and Brady. I picked 3rd in that draft.

As for this year, I am going with Gronkowski in the first round


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As for this year, I am going with Gronkowski in the first round






Everyone is stacked in a 10 team league practically. I try to stick to 12s and the occasional 20.

I do auction though. It's all up to you, no luck in getting a high pick...


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Here's my strategy....I don't think anyone in my league could find this.

Draft RBs in the first 3 rounds...at least two of the first three. WRs are crazy deep this year. RBs are as thin as at any point of my 15 years playing FFB.

T-Rich is going anywhere from 9-18. Most people don't know that the Browns play the Steelers Week 17, therefore not impacting your fantasy season so there's added value there.

SJAX for some reason is going later than he should. He hasn'td score that many TDs but rushes for plenty of yards....he's going in RD3 most drafts. If Bradford gets the team in the redzone more often he's going to see those TD number peg up.

Get Ben Tate in the 7th. Foster is usually going Top 3. If the guy who picks Foster doesn't pick Tate in the 6th/7th don't let him pick him in the 8th. If Foster gets hurt (and he's not the sturdiest chap) Tate becomes a Top 5 Fantasy RB. This might win your league if Foster is lost for the season at some point.

Antonio Gates is healthy and has lost 15lbs. His foot is 100%. Word out of TC is that he's running by DBs. Nobody boxes out defenders at the goal line better than Gates. With Vincent Jackson in Tampa now, Gates is the #1 target. He's going to explode this year. Get him late 4th to late 5th.

Speaking of Jackson he's going anywhere from middle 6th to middle 8th. As a fan of Kansas State I watched plenty of Josh Freeman games and have seen plenty of Tampa games. He throws a very good deep ball and he has plenty of arm. I could see VJAX having a top 10 receiving year no problem. The guy is truly a physical freak.

The other guys I like this year are relative to ADP (average draft position) are Eric Decker (a monster at Minnesota and now has Peyton throwing it to him) Reggie Wayne as Luck's best outside target. He knows how to beat doubles. And James Starks...GB is concentrating on the run this offseason and will be feeding him the ball. In an interview with Greg Jennings he said he doesn't think anyone is going to have 10TDs this year because of the focus on running the ball better.

Don't take a Defense or Kicker before the last two picks. Every year someone selected in the last few rounds becomes a major contributor. Try and find that guy instead of taking the SF defense or Seabass.

Lastly...I think Chris Johnson has a good chance of being the top fantasy RB this year. Like a 30% chance. I wouldn't pick him ahead of Ray Rice but might pick him next. It'd be hard to be picking at in the top 4 and pick him but I really do think he's going to have a strong year. Two reasons:

1. Steve Hutchinson was signed in free agency and they have big boys at the two tackles.
2. He was holding out last year and was not in shape to start the season. It basically ruined the year for him and the team. He's got his money and he's leading the team as we speak.

He could have a huge year this season. If you're drafting from 5 on don't hesitate to pull the trigger.

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i'd go McCoy as well. i'm a bit surprised with the dearth of RBs and the relatively large supply of QBs that people are so willing to draft a QB that high.

it's splitting hairs, but if I can get Foster, Rice or McCoy, then I'm not even considering anyone else.




Yeah more and more believe believe picking one of the TOP 3 Qbs is the way to win leagues lately whereas you can grab a qb later as the qbs after the top 3, there's a dropoff, but there is a bunch of good qbs in a grouping that is fairly equal to each other.

First 3, you NEED to go with one of the few lone RBs left in the NFL because after that you are looking at RBBC's. And Foster may be in a committee this year. Even though the league may be a more passing league, they are still relying on RBs to catch balls out of the backfield as well as their rushing. I'd look at a back like Rice or McCoy here.

There'll be more quality QBs to look at in rounds 2 and 3 than RBs left at that point as then you are looking at RBBCs and lesser backs and when you start 2-3 RBs as opposed to 1 QB, having 2 good RBs is more important that 1 great QB as those right after the TOP 3 are pretty much equal whereas the RBs left when you pick a QB first just isn't there, especially when you pick 3rd in the draft as your next pick isn't until almost the 3rd round.

It also surprising me how many people are drafting TEs high as well. Between the TOP 2(Gronk and Graham) the rest put up about the same points and when you pick Gronk or Graham, you are missing out on another position.

I'd still go RB-RB then maybe QB or WR depending on who is left at QB and if I feel that one will fall.


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I'm skeptical of Foster. Got injured last year, Ben Tate will take some carries away...




And still had 1200+ yards and 10 TDs. I think he's as close to a lock as you can get. You can always get Tate in the later rounds as an insurance policy.


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Last year, I waited on QBs and wound up getting Cam Newton and Matt Stafford. Obviously that's the ideal situation but I never take a QB in the first 3 rounds, you can always find a "solid" one later in the draft. He may not be Rodgers but there's nothing wrong with a guy like Romo or Schaub especially if you can get 2 stud RBs in the 1st 2 rounds.

For instance, using standard ESPN scoring, the top QB Rodgers averaged 24.1 points per game. The 10th QB Mark Sanchez averaged 14.2 points and could be had much, much later in the draft. 19 total QBs averaged over 10 points per game.

On the other hand, only 14 RBs averaged 10 points per game and there's going to be 20 of those starting (not including flex positions).

Therefore, I always load up on RBs early. If you can get 3 of the guys that average 10+ points, you're in a really good position and can even trade one of them if you need to fill a hole later on.


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OK here is my first mock results. Please give me some feedback.


Your Team
1. Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
2. Trent Richardson (Cle - RB)
3. A.J. Green (Cin - WR)
4. Steve Smith (Car - WR)
5. Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
6. Vernon Davis (SF - TE)
7. Aaron Hernandez (NE - TE)
8. Robert Meachem (SD - WR)
9. Robert Griffin III (Was - QB)
10. Pierre Garcon (Was - WR)
11. Detroit (Det - DEF)
12. Seattle (Sea - DEF)
13. Malcom Floyd (SD - WR)
14. Phil Dawson (Cle - K)
15. Randy Moss (SF - WR)


Round by Round results
* your team in bold
Round 1
(1) Michael - Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
(2) Jay - Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
(3) George - Drew Brees (NO - QB)
(4) timothy - LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB)
(5) Dumpster Dude - Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
(6) jolly_wolf - Calvin Johnson (Det - WR)
(7) Jeffrey - Tom Brady (NE - QB)
(8) JB - Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
(9) Sco - Ryan Mathews (SD - RB)
(10) Woody - Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)


Round 2
(1) Woody - Matt Forte (Chi - RB)
(2) Sco - Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB)
(3) JB - Trent Richardson (Cle - RB)
(4) Jeffrey - Roddy White (Atl - WR)
(5) jolly_wolf - Cam Newton (Car - QB)
(6) Dumpster Dude - Darren Sproles (NO - RB)
(7) timothy - Jimmy Graham (NO - TE)
(8) George - Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
(9) Jay - Darren McFadden (Oak - RB)
(10) Michael - Matthew Stafford (Det - QB)


Round 3
(1) Michael - Frank Gore (SF - RB)
(2) Jay - Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
(3) George - Victor Cruz (NYG - WR)
(4) timothy - Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB)
(5) Dumpster Dude - DeMarco Murray (Dal - RB)
(6) jolly_wolf - Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
(7) Jeffrey - Brandon Marshall (Chi - WR)
(8) JB - A.J. Green (Cin - WR)
(9) Sco - Greg Jennings (GB - WR)
(10) Woody - Andre Johnson (Hou - WR)


Round 4
(1) Woody - Wes Welker (NE - WR)
(2) Sco - Mike Wallace (Pit - WR)
(3) JB - Steve Smith (Car - WR)
(4) Jeffrey - Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
(5) jolly_wolf - Fred Jackson (Buf - RB)
(6) Dumpster Dude - Hakeem Nicks (NYG - WR)
(7) timothy - Miles Austin (Dal - WR)
(8) George - Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
(9) Jay - Demaryius Thomas (Den - WR)
(10) Michael - Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR)


Round 5
(1) Michael - Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
(2) Jay - Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR)
(3) George - Marques Colston (NO - WR)
(4) timothy - Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)
(5) Dumpster Dude - Devin Hester (Chi - WR)
(6) jolly_wolf - Vincent Jackson (TB - WR)
(7) Jeffrey - Steven Jackson (StL - RB)
(8) JB - Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
(9) Sco - Michael Vick (Phi - QB)
(10) Woody - Doug Martin (TB - RB)


Round 6
(1) Woody - Philip Rivers (SD - QB)
(2) Sco - Antonio Brown (Pit - WR)
(3) JB - Vernon Davis (SF - TE)
(4) Jeffrey - Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
(5) jolly_wolf - Brandon Lloyd (NE - WR)
(6) Dumpster Dude - Percy Harvin (Min - WR)
(7) timothy - Kenny Britt (Ten - WR)
(8) George - Jermichael Finley (GB - TE)
(9) Jay - Peyton Manning (Den - QB)
(10) Michael - DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)


Round 7
(1) Michael - Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE)
(2) Jay - Stevie Johnson (Buf - WR)
(3) George - Shonn Greene (NYJ - RB)
(4) timothy - Tony Romo (Dal - QB)
(5) Dumpster Dude - San Francisco (SF - DEF)
(6) jolly_wolf - Fred Davis (Was - TE)
(7) Jeffrey - BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Cin - RB)
(8) JB - Aaron Hernandez (NE - TE)
(9) Sco - Baltimore (Bal - DEF)
(10) Woody - Isaac Redman (Pit - RB)


Round 8
(1) Woody - Reggie Bush (Mia - RB)
(2) Sco - Eric Decker (Den - WR)
(3) JB - Robert Meachem (SD - WR)
(4) Jeffrey - Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB)
(5) jolly_wolf - Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
(6) Dumpster Dude - Brandon Pettigrew (Det - TE)
(7) timothy - Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF)
(8) George - Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR)
(9) Jay - Chicago (Chi - DEF)
(10) Michael - New York (NYG - DEF)


Round 9
(1) Michael - Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
(2) Jay - Mason Crosby (GB - K)
(3) George - Nate Washington (Ten - WR)
(4) timothy - Sebastian Janikowski (Oak - K)
(5) Dumpster Dude - David Akers (SF - K)
(6) jolly_wolf - Dan Bailey (Dal - K)
(7) Jeffrey - Torrey Smith (Bal - WR)
(8) JB - Robert Griffin III (Was - QB)
(9) Sco - Jacob Tamme (Den - TE)
(10) Woody - Stevan Ridley (NE - RB)


Round 10
(1) Woody - David Wilson (NYG - RB)
(2) Sco - John Kasay (NO - K)
(3) JB - Pierre Garcon (Was - WR)
(4) Jeffrey - Green Bay (GB - DEF)
(5) jolly_wolf - Willis McGahee (Den - RB)
(6) Dumpster Dude - Jay Cutler (Chi - QB)
(7) timothy - Roy Helu (Was - RB)
(8) George - Houston (Hou - DEF)
(9) Jay - Beanie Wells (Ari - RB)
(10) Michael - Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)


Round 11
(1) Michael - Darrius Heyward-Bey (Oak - WR)
(2) Jay - Matt Ryan (Atl - QB)
(3) George - Jason Hanson (Det - K)
(4) timothy - Sidney Rice (Sea - WR)
(5) Dumpster Dude - Jonathan Stewart (Car - RB)
(6) jolly_wolf - Philadelphia (Phi - DEF)
(7) Jeffrey - DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB)
(8) JB - Detroit (Det - DEF)
(9) Sco - Peyton Hillis (KC - RB)
(10) Woody - Jacquizz Rodgers (Atl - RB)


Round 12
(1) Woody - Owen Daniels (Hou - TE)
(2) Sco - Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR)
(3) JB - Seattle (Sea - DEF)
(4) Jeffrey - Denarius Moore (Oak - WR)
(5) jolly_wolf - Anquan Boldin (Bal - WR)
(6) Dumpster Dude - Joshua Cribbs (Cle - WR)
(7) timothy - Greg Little (Cle - WR)
(8) George - Matt Schaub (Hou - QB)
(9) Jay - Justin Blackmon (Jac - WR)
(10) Michael - Mark Ingram (NO - RB)


Round 13
(1) Michael - Dustin Keller (NYJ - TE)
(2) Jay - Mike Williams (TB - WR)
(3) George - Jahvid Best (Det - RB)
(4) timothy - Carson Palmer (Oak - QB)
(5) Dumpster Dude - Brandon Tate (Cin - WR)
(6) jolly_wolf - Ben Tate (Hou - RB)
(7) Jeffrey - Dan Carpenter (Mia - K)
(8) JB - Malcom Floyd (SD - WR)
(9) Sco - Josh Freeman (TB - QB)
(10) Woody - New York (NYJ - DEF)


Round 14
(1) Woody - Neil Rackers (Was - K)
(2) Sco - Jermaine Gresham (Cin - TE)
(3) JB - Phil Dawson (Cle - K)
(4) Jeffrey - Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
(5) jolly_wolf - Santana Moss (Was - WR)
(6) Dumpster Dude - New England (NE - DEF)
(7) timothy - Brent Celek (Phi - TE)
(8) George - Lance Moore (NO - WR)
(9) Jay - Jared Cook (Ten - TE)
(10) Michael - Michael Crabtree (SF - WR)


Round 15
(1) Michael - LeGarrette Blount (TB - RB)
(2) Jay - Mike Nugent (Cin - K)
(3) George - New Orleans (NO - DEF)
(4) timothy - Rob Bironas (Ten - K)
(5) Dumpster Dude - Tony Moeaki (KC - TE)
(6) jolly_wolf - Kansas City (KC - DEF)
(7) Jeffrey - Coby Fleener (Ind - TE)
(8) JB - Randy Moss (SF - WR)
(9) Sco - Billy Cundiff (Bal - K)
(10) Woody - Andrew Luck (Ind - QB)


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I hope TEN and CLE don't have the same bye week...


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CLE WK 10


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can I have Jay's team?


ok, your team:

well, with CJ and Trent you have 2 very big boom/bust candidates. a bit risky for early in the draft, but it could pay off well. you could have gone even riskier with a higher ceiling by taking McFadden in round2, but that would have been a bit too much.

I like alot of those other WRs more than AJ when you took him. that has to do more with Cinci & Dalton more than AJ, but his numbers are tied to the team's offense. especially with the boom/bust picks above, I would have gone safer there. and, I think you would regret Steve Smith over Julio Jones all year. Better offense, younger, just as dynamic but better red zone threat. Injuries can play apart for both.

Eli and Vernon aren't bad value picks for those positions. Definitely some upside. Same with Hernandez (especially if Gronk's ankle hurts him).

I don't really trust Meachem and the RGIII/Garcon pairing I wouldn't expect huge numbers out of (decent, but I tend to go for broke that late in the draft - like taking Randy Moss with your last pick I liked. Because the odds are you are cutting that player anyway you might as well go with someone who "could" blow up).

the rest are all decent picks. i'd do a bit differently, but you are just picking favorites to some extent at that point.


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For never playing fantasy its a pretty good first draft (mock). Sure there are some spots I personally would have taken different guys, but nothing id argue tooth and nail over (agree that the Smith over Julio would sting the most if this was a real draft.

I think you are on the right track though for a first timer.


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I think you are on the right track though for a first timer.




I definitely agree with this as well and should have stated as much


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I hope TEN and CLE don't have the same bye week...




I have actually gone a few years with 1 really bad bye week and found that it's sort of surprisingly pleasant. you pretty much throw away 1 week (which depends on how many in your league make the playoffs to see if you can afford to do it or not), but the rest of the weeks you get a boost in your score compared to other teams.

and, one of the years this happened, I actually managed to squeak out a win in that "bad" week. that was fun.


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Kind of a stretch, but if I had the first pick, I'd take Rice.

My thinking is, the AFCN could be somewhat down this year. At least down from what they have been the last few years.

If it wasn't Rice. I would go Rodgers. That offense is too good.

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Man, no kidding...




He took a Def and a Kicker in rounds 8 and 9!

What a waste.


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have actually gone a few years with 1 really bad bye week and found that it's sort of surprisingly pleasant.




I agree with this, dont draft based on bye weeks, too many things can happen. In football, any given sunday, you could still win. Once year that happened to me one bye week, lost my top 3 picks to bye as well as my kicker and TE, still won as my opponent just crapped the bed that week.


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Man, no kidding...




He took a Def and a Kicker in rounds 8 and 9!

What a waste.




i agree he took those too early, but he has a ridiculously loaded team through that mock draft. he waits until round6 to get his QB when QBs are flying off early and still ends up with Peyton? and he gets Matt Ryan as insurance? and look at all those WRs he scooped up that dropped.


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Thanks for the insight. I've got two weeks before our draft to prepare. This was my first one, didn't realize until late in the draft that I only drafted two RB's and six WR. I went with Smith over Jones simply because the overall rankings sheet I have had Smith ranked slightly higher with 177.5 FPts where Jones was at 176 FPts.

Just found out today that the commissioner added the TE/WR/RB position to the team and we are going to have 12 teams instead of 10. We are waiting on the other two people to sign up so they can set the draft order. Everyone is suppose to sign up tonight so hopefully this weekend I will be able to run a few 12 team mock drafts at the draft position I will be in for the league draft.


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Wow, Matt Ryan in round 11? I have never been a huge Matt Ryan fantasy QB guy, but I think you could see him jump into the ranks of top 10 QB's this year. Very surprised to see some of the guys drafted ahead of him in that mock.

He completes a good percentage of passes, low picks, more of a passing attack this year, Julio Jones with a year under his belt. He performed at a higher level the last half of the season last year. I think he finishes top 10 this year.

Not necessarily a guy I am planning my draft around, but if I wait on qb I wouldnt be upset this year with him as my starter, then maybe grab Carson Palmer as a backup.


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be careful then. 12 team leagues are vastly different than 10 team leagues.

for instance, if each team carries 3RBs, then 4 of them HAVE to be carrying backups whereas in a 10team league everyone could have a starter in each slot (I know, not exactly how it works, but gives you a good idea the difference).


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The best is the 12 team leagues that start 3 QBs per team...



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Well we are back to a 10 team league....the other two guys didn't sign up yet and the rest of the league wanted to draw names for draft order today at lunch.

Did the draft and I pulled #1!!!!

So unless Foster blows his knee out between now and the draft on the 26th I plan on drafting him. Anyone think that's a bad idea. He is ranked #1 on every cheetsheet I've seen and he has the highest average draft position on yahoo.


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The thing about #1 is.

In a Snake draft.

Your 2nd pic is # 20. So you HAVE to hit on that first pick.

THAT is why I would take a guy like Rodgers over Foster. High in the draft.

It's just IMO, but I would rather have to consistency of the best starting QB in the league, versus a RB who has a really good backup. And is somewhat injury prone.


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