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Ben Roethlisberger revealed he has a "little torn rotator cuff" in an interview Wednesday with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, but the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback seemed more concerned about the absence of holdout receiver Mike Wallace than his injury.

The Post-Gazette reported that Roethlisberger suffered the injury in a Nov. 6 game last season against the Baltimore Ravens. He had earlier told the newspaper in the spring that he suffered a shoulder injury but this is the first time he has described it as a rotator cuff tear.





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"I'm good. It's OK, just sore," he told the newspaper. "I have a little torn rotator cuff. That doesn't heal. We just have to hope it doesn't tear the rest of the way, according to Doc."

Roethlisberger also suffered a fractured thumb and a high ankle sprain last season, when he was sacked an AFC-high 40 times.

Roethlisberger, who turned 30 in March, said he does less throwing in the walk-through portion of practices.

"It's part of getting older, too," he told the newspaper. "If you watch walk-throughs, I used to throw all the time. Now it's just backing off. Now I don't ever throw during walk-throughs. It's less throwing; I think that's smart anyway. As you get older, you just need to take care of yourself whether you're hurt or not."

The quarterback also said in the interview that he likes the team's new offense installed by offensive coordinator Tom Haley and said he talks to Wallace, who still hasn't signed his tender offer from the Steelers, regularly.

"I don't know what's going on with his agent or what they're telling each other, but he wants to be here," Roethlisberger said. "I believe he will be here and I think he'll be here soon."


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I speak from some experience.

I have had two rotator cuff surgeries. One on each shoulder. Both were partial tears. I know Ben is young and a professional football player, but I got news - it does not get better. Given his throwing requirements his shoulder will weaken.

Eventually your arm just feels dead. It hurts all the time and you loose strength, and accuracy.

He can say all he wants too. He minimize it and say it is no big deal. It will show up no matter. He will not be as good as normal. He can adjust some but he will not be able to make throws that to him are normal.

Over the season he will suffer and for a guy who depends on his ability to make tough throws expect more interceptions.

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If it's no big deal, then why doesn't he just have the thing repaired? Is it a season-ending surgery? I guess I don't understand the wait and see approach.


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Hopefully it pops here soon......


Hopefully our defence can help him out here.....

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If it's no big deal, then why doesn't he just have the thing repaired? Is it a season-ending surgery? I guess I don't understand the wait and see approach.





Surgery is actually considered a last resort, not a go-to solution. Even if you're rich, you don't do it unless there isn't a better option... the rehab time, chance of infections, and scar tissue issues (which affect rehab time) are all things that have to be taken into account. In many cases, a minor rotator cuff injury will heal on its own with some physical therapy. Rotator cuff surgery demands that you don't use the arm during the initial stages of healing, which leads to muscle atrophy (not good for an NFL QB heading into a new season).

My guess would be that at the time of the injury, it was deemed to be minor and not worth cutting on someone for it.
If it has gotten any worse, it is now too late to do it because recovery time for a shoulder would take him into the regular season.... so, he'll play the season with it as-is and hope he gets through it.

Most likely, he's going to end up with surgery after this coming season, if not in the middle of it.
The great news for us is that this type of injury usually manifest itself as weakness in the arm/shoulder.... so, as it worsens, so will his ability to throw effectively.


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I almost never wish injury on people, but, yeah, with his off-the-field history, I'd be okay with it, too.


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Yea, I'm going to dispense with the usual PC "get better soon", "hate to see anyone hurt" stuff in this case. Here's to a injury that nags like my wife during the holidays.




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Yea, I'm going to dispense with the usual PC "get better soon", "hate to see anyone hurt" stuff in this case. Here's to a injury that nags like my wife during the holidays.




I've been nursing one for a couple of years now. With therapy and rest I have put off surgery. They can and will heal if you give it time. I might also add that I'm on hormone replacement therapy that might be frowned upon in the NFL.

I don't see how an NFL Quarterback has the luxury of time to let it heal. By the end of the season his arm will be burning him like a swarm of fire ants, he won't be putting anything on target, and he won't be sleeping particularly well. It's fixable, but not fixable on a good timetable for the Steelers. Getting old is a bugger, Ben.


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PITTSBURGH -- A day after leaving practice a few minutes early because a teammate stepped on his foot during a drill, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger did not practice Sunday.

The two-time Super Bowl winner denied a Saturday report that he had a left ankle sprain, characterizing it as a "simple bruise."

"He should be fine," coach Mike Tomlin said. "We'll take a look at it, he'll be a day-to-day thing, see how he goes from there."





Big Ben: Games Missed As Starter

Ben Roethlisberger has missed 13 games since becoming the Steelers' full-time starting quarterback in 2004.




Games missed

Reason




2011

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Ankle



2010

4

Suspended



2009

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Concussion



2007

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Inactive (rest)



2006

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Appendectomy



2005

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Knee



2004

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Inactive (rest)




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The Steelers do not practice Monday, so Roethlisberger said giving his body 48 hours off was part of the reason for not practicing Sunday.

"It's good, no worries," Roethlisberger said.

The news was not as positive regarding the five Steelers still on the physically unable to perform list: nose tackle Casey Hampton, outside linebackers James Harrison and Jason Worilds, running back Rashard Mendenhall and offensive tackle Max Starks. Tomlin indicated it will be the end of the week at the earliest before any are cleared for practice.

"The vast majority of the PUP guys are week to week," Tomlin said after Sunday's practice. "So we'll evaluate their position when we get back from Philly."

The Steelers open preseason play Thursday against the Philadelphia Eagles.

The Steelers' practice Sunday was moved from its camp at St. Vincent College near Latrobe, Pa., about an hour's drive away to the indoor facility the team shares with the University of Pittsburgh. That's the third different venue in three days for a Steelers practice, counting the annual Friday night practice at Greater Latrobe High School.

"I thought they put a nice exclamation point on a good, competitive weekend," Tomlin said. "We put them in a variety of unusual circumstances, and they responded. From Friday Night Lights to short-yardage and goal-line, to the logistics of coming down here and performing, I like the way the group is showing me that they're capable of playing anytime that we roll the ball out under any circumstances."

The circumstances got even more bizarre Sunday when the lights went out as a thunderstorm rolled through. Practice was halted for about a dozen minutes.

USA Today reported Saturday that Roethlisberger sprained that same left ankle he injured against the Browns in December, but on Sunday the quarterback denied the ankle was sprained.





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"I don't know where that came from; it completely just got stepped on," he said.

Roethlisberger, who turned 30 in March, revealed last week that he has a slightly torn right rotator cuff. He has not missed any practice time nor did he miss any games last season because of the shoulder.

Of the five players remaining on the PUP list, all but Worilds are considered starters -- although Starks might be getting bypassed by rookie Mike Adams at left tackle. Adams is running with the first-team offense in practice.

Worilds is Harrison's backup, and the team's other starting outside linebacker, LaMarr Woodley, has missed multiple practices with a knee injury. That has left the Steelers perilously thin at outside linebacker, though Woodley did practice Sunday.


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CB Curtis Brown left practice early due to knee soreness. ... P Jeremy Kapinos continues to be absent from practices because of back pain.


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for someone who is so universally described as "tough," he sure does miss a lot of time for injuries and show he's hurting on the field.

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for someone who is so universally described as "tough," he sure does miss a lot of time for injuries and show he's hurting on the field.




He's the Dwayne Wade of football.

As much as I dislike Big Ben, he sure as heck has taken a POUNDING the last few seasons. Dude can't last forever . . .

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for someone who is so universally described as "tough," he sure does miss a lot of time for injuries and show he's hurting on the field.




He's the Dwayne Wade of football.

As much as I dislike Big Ben, he sure as heck has taken a POUNDING the last few seasons. Dude can't last forever . . .




Miss a lot of time due to injuries? 13 games....6 of which were not injury related or he was able to play but didn't.....Leaves 7 games in 8 years after being sacked 314 times...(thats not counting knock downs...just sacks)

Misses less than 1 game a year due to injury....Ill take it.

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for someone who is so universally described as "tough," he sure does miss a lot of time for injuries and show he's hurting on the field.




He's the Dwayne Wade of football.

As much as I dislike Big Ben, he sure as heck has taken a POUNDING the last few seasons. Dude can't last forever . . .




Miss a lot of time due to injuries? 13 games....6 of which were not injury related or he was able to play but didn't.....Leaves 7 games in 8 years after being sacked 314 times...(thats not counting knock downs...just sacks)

Misses less than 1 game a year due to injury....Ill take it.

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I agree, perhaps if he wasn't the person that he is he could have very well sat out many more games due to injury.


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Those numbers seem low. I'll take your word for it though.

It seems like the guy is constantly hurting though and I feel like he's been pulled out of games he's started quite a bit.

Heck here's today's news.... ESPN

Yes, another Ben Roethlisberger injury
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By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com

There's three things you can count on with the Steelers:

Someone will take a shot at the Pittsburgh defense for being too old. Head coach Mike Tomlin will say at some point, "The standard is the standard."

And quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will inevitably get injured -- and usually multiple times.

That's what happened Saturday, when Roethlisberger left a few minutes early from a Steelers training camp practice. He sprained his left ankle on a 20-yard touchdown pass when a lineman stepped on him. According to USA Today, he limped off the field and had an ice pack taped to the ankle that caused him so much trouble last season.

So, should anyone be worried? Tomlin certainly isn't.

“He's fine,” Tomlin said. “Somebody stepped on his foot. You guys love the Ben updates.”

This injury occurred three days after Roethlisberger revealed that he had slight tear in his right rotator cuff. It's gotten to the point it's news when Roethlisberger isn't hurt.

The one positive is everyone is now talking about Roethlisberger and not a hold-out wide receiver.


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Which ankle did we bust last year?


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Same one that got stepped on....not a strain...just a bruise is the latest word.


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James Harrison had a scope on an ailing knee today and will likely miss the first 6 weeks of the season.

This is the year the steelers pull back.

Unfortunately it looks like we're in the muck as well unless the sun really shines our way.


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This is the year the steelers pull back.




I will point out. The last time Pitt "pulled back" it allowed them to draft Roethlisberger at 11.


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James Harrison had a scope on an ailing knee today and will likely miss the first 6 weeks of the season.

This is the year the steelers pull back.

Unfortunately it looks like we're in the muck as well unless the sun really shines our way.




where are you seeing this? bouchette has said it was a minor surgery and he "may" miss week1:

http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/12229/1254516-66.stm


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He's been on the PUP list since the start of training camp before this procedure. If he starts the season on the PUP list he has to by NFL rules miss the first 6 games. Can't remember where I read the news that he was likely to miss but that's what it said and why I put it there.


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i don't doubt you saw it, was just wondering where (as to if i should buy into it or not). bouchette is usually on top of things, which is why I checked there when I saw your post.

i'd love for Harrison to miss, but i'm not counting on that at this point (hopefully he at least misses week1 vs. Peyton)


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I'm pretty sure it was ESPN or CBS Sportsline.


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I'm more curious how Ben injured his shoulder.
Was it on field? (hit, bad fall, overextended)
Or was it off the field? (going back for 2nd on windshield, tore it while holding down his latest rape victim)

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Tobiaz, that sounds like sarcastic aspersion casting (and I loved it!). Let him sit the front end out. Hope we can slide a few notches in early. Bizarre turn of events. Motorcycle injury, perhaps?


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